Fuji XF 16-80mm f/4 R OIS WR lens review with samples

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Christopher Frost

Christopher Frost

4 жыл бұрын

A brand new, versatile zoom lens from Fuji that's picked up a lot of attention already - let's test the living daylights out of it. And my gratitude to whoever can explain the weird focus-wobble-thing as you zoom in and out with it.
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@leojonkers3181
@leojonkers3181 2 жыл бұрын
I own this zoom lens and I love it. I payed 600 euro for it and do not regret it one bit. The stabilization is out of this world, so good that this is a lens where I do not use auto iso, but the lowest iso. Even at F8.0 or higher even, the photo's will stay sharp. 1/2 a second is possible, incredible.
@thomasanderson5929
@thomasanderson5929 7 ай бұрын
Try Olympus 12-100mm F/4 IS Pro, that lens lets you take a few seconds or more hand-held stabilized. More impressive is that 12-100mm on Olympus is equivalent to 24-200mm... and it's an F/4 constant lens. And it's RAZER sharp.
@gabs0r
@gabs0r 6 ай бұрын
@@thomasanderson5929 I tried to screw it on but it does not seem to fit on my Fuj cam.
@williamvesterberg1107
@williamvesterberg1107 4 ай бұрын
yeah mft is abit different from apsc​@@thomasanderson5929
@jonasfrey9649
@jonasfrey9649 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, i wish Olympus would mke Fuji Lenses.. Wpuld be the perfect combo..
@tjkrueger2655
@tjkrueger2655 4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your reviews and testing... extremely helpful to cut through the hype and anti-hype that comes with new releases. Cheers
@stingray9518
@stingray9518 2 жыл бұрын
Since the Tamron 17-70 has just been released and some may watch this video to compare this two lenses, I have a few remarks concerning your test sample, Christopher. My sample (9CA040## number range) has a buttery smooth zoom ring, that perfectly works for video and with the latest firmware 1.05 it has only little issues with focussing while zooming on my X-T3. Only when zooming back from the far end (80mm) it seems to struggle to identify in which direction it has to focus. The rest (with AF-C preset 2) is nice and smooth. I'm very happy with the overall sharpness of this lens, although it seems I got a very good copy. It's at least as good as my 18-55mm kit-lens, wich is undeniably better for video. I also own the 18-135mm (3rd copy, had to send it back twice, because of decentration issues) and the 16-80mm is a world better. I only kept the 18-135 for use on the old X-T1, where the lower resolution isn't that visible and take that combo to harsh conditions like a sandy beach, when it's windy or if I want to take photos in heavy rain. Currently the 13mm f/1.4 and the 16-80mm f/4 and the 9mm f/2.8 are my to-go lenses. BTW: Thank you for your very professional and helpful reviews, Christopher! Your'e one of the most helpful resources on youtube.
@docavvai
@docavvai 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best KZfaq camera reviewer that I trust. Thanks Chris.
@jordytoke2808
@jordytoke2808 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed! So thorough and methodical, the visual tests really give a feel for the lens without ever using it.
@ZulReviews
@ZulReviews 4 жыл бұрын
Review that I've been waiting. Thank you so much for pointing out the zooming in / out behavior. Helped me a lot as videographer. Surprised it behaved that way. That makes me think twice. Currently using 18-55mm x-t3.
@robertcudlipp485
@robertcudlipp485 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, thanks for the review. I for one remain very happy with the so-called kit lens; the other zooms. Very happy with its performance and use primes when can, and have 23/1.4, 23/2 ( as its a more modern design), 35/2 and, to my mind, excellent 18-135 zoom 10-24 zoom.. Have read all the rave reviews on the stellar 16 mm, rented one for a week, but just didn't suit my shooting. Find I have the 23 and 35 primes on the most. We are all different.
@chrisbradshaw7273
@chrisbradshaw7273 4 жыл бұрын
A man with a shiny face and head was getting very excited about this lens the other day, I'm glad I watched this more balanced review...Thanks Mr Frost!
@docavvai
@docavvai 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha yeah. He had become a Fuji Fan Boy now.
@simonsays5814
@simonsays5814 4 жыл бұрын
personally I hate watching that man's video
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I've found it really strange how many people are publishing videos trying to claim that this is The Sharpest Lens In The World Ever Ever...as someone else in these comments has noted, my findings seem to correspond with Fuji's own published MTF charts. It's a pretty good lens but seems just a little over-hyped...
@ianmondy
@ianmondy 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Frost Photography how is the sharpness compared with the 18-55 kit lens?
@WhosPhotoTube
@WhosPhotoTube 4 жыл бұрын
Wait for it ......... FUJI
@ScottWilliamsPhotography
@ScottWilliamsPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
I watch you videos even if I'm never going to get the lens. I really enjoy you talking about them :)
@MichaelsModellbaustube
@MichaelsModellbaustube 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this lens just this week. Since the firmware-updates are out, some of the weaker features are now really good. I love this lens, can't wait to go on the next hike with it! Thx for the review!
@mskedarnath
@mskedarnath 2 жыл бұрын
What about the cornor softness issue? After firmware updates
@MichaelsModellbaustube
@MichaelsModellbaustube 2 жыл бұрын
@@mskedarnath there are still soft, but in the meantime another firmware was released and honestly the quality is much better now, in my oppinion. I also have to say that I usually crop my pictures, so soft corners are my least concern.
@MrYudhiPrabowo
@MrYudhiPrabowo 4 жыл бұрын
great review. extremely helpful. thank you Christopher Frost
@Aceofswe
@Aceofswe 4 жыл бұрын
Good review! Thinking of adding this lens + a 2nd hand XT-2 to my camera bag to complement my X100F with a WR zoom option.
@veirestt
@veirestt 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you very much. Some things that come to my mind: - This lens will be a commercial hit for Fujifilm, good zoom range for general purpose use, good OIS, WR, price acceptable. It is already out of stock in most (online) shops. So there is a huge market and it's a smart proposition from Fujifilm. - It's still a 5x zoom, we all know that it means there will be compromises.
@GLAXxan
@GLAXxan 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! bought one, knowing the shortcomings and I am as happy as I can be with it :)
@DrErickLopez
@DrErickLopez 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Christopher! great review as always! perfect travel lens, but price is a bit much compared to the more versatile 18-135. I guess it depends which camera you would use this with that makes the difference. IMO, this is better suited for the non-IBIS fuji cameras. The 18-135 seems like a much better alternative if you have an X-H1 with IBIS to get those low light images with less noise. Other than that the 18-55 is still the winner for its cost and image output. just my two cents
@bunmeng007
@bunmeng007 2 жыл бұрын
16-80/F4 + one prime lens = Amazing travel photography
@7LiquidSnake
@7LiquidSnake Жыл бұрын
I think I'd have to agree with you. I have an xf 35mm prime, and potentially torn between this and the sharper 16-55mm 2.8
@fotografalexandernikolis
@fotografalexandernikolis 6 ай бұрын
If you're fine with 100g more in weight and lack of aperture ring, the Tamron 17-70 2.8 is a far better option.
@fotografalexandernikolis
@fotografalexandernikolis 6 ай бұрын
@@7LiquidSnake Or you get the best of both worlds, Tamron 17-70 2.8. The sharpness and f2.8 like the 16-55, but with practically the same range as the 16-80, and it's cheaper than either of them. Only downside is lack of aperture ring, but it's quick to get used to if you set up the controls properly.
@leovanlierop4580
@leovanlierop4580 5 ай бұрын
With my 14mm it would make a nice combo.
@chromaticvisuelle
@chromaticvisuelle 3 жыл бұрын
Such a versatile lens! Usually @80 mm its for portrait so centre sharpness is more important than in the corners
@natekong3596
@natekong3596 4 жыл бұрын
Your review is very consistent with the MTF chart published by Fuji. With this kind of long zoom, I don't expect much in term of corner sharpness. It is a good all-around zoom lens but at $800 the compromised sharpness is really a hard pill to swallow.
@AgentBlackCrow
@AgentBlackCrow 4 жыл бұрын
That 6 stop OIS looks absolutely fantastic.
@tomislavmiletic_
@tomislavmiletic_ 4 жыл бұрын
Bought 16-55mm f2,8 recently and I'm totally happy with it.
@drs-Rigo-Reus
@drs-Rigo-Reus 4 жыл бұрын
too right, lots better than thisPOS>
@marcp.1752
@marcp.1752 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for reviewing this new Fuji Zoom Lens, Chris. ;-)
@MrDG80
@MrDG80 3 жыл бұрын
So it could be considered a good 23/50 with decent/softer extra reaches to 16 and 80. Versatility, weather resistance, aperture ring... overall I think I'd prefer it to the 18/55, but anyway very honest and complete review. Instantly subscribed to the channel.
@Innovate-pq9ci
@Innovate-pq9ci 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I'd love to see mentioned in your video Chris is comparison with similar lenses. In a vacuum, all the things you said are true. In reality, this lens is almost revolutionary, I've yet to see another zoom in this similar focal range that performs remotely close!
@opalyankaBG
@opalyankaBG Жыл бұрын
The Nikon Z 24-120mm f4 is a much better performer and it covers the same FOV.
@thomasanderson5929
@thomasanderson5929 6 ай бұрын
Olympus 12-100mm f/4, equivalent to 24-200mm on Full Frame and it's razer sharp. Also has IS, built like a tank, uses only 72mm filters and it let's you get as close as 15cm to your subject making it also an awesome light macro lens. I don't know how olympus pulled it off but this lens is incredible.
@MartinArgg
@MartinArgg 4 жыл бұрын
2:26 loving the two ladies speaking in signs language at the bottom of the frame.
@hejakma4682
@hejakma4682 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing. I could't resist and ordered the 16-80 with the intention of replacing my 18-55. Now i compared week for week and can't decide to sell my good 18-55 copy or the 16-80 lol.
@birjub9647
@birjub9647 4 жыл бұрын
When you zooming in/out i see it flickers?? iv seen this problem in the 18-55.. making video unusable when zooming in/out in constant aperture.
@r200ti
@r200ti 4 жыл бұрын
Good review, thanks. I was interested in the lens being with WR and longer than the 18-55. But some of the IQ criticism has put me off. As per someone earlier, how does this compare to the 18-55? Barring the obvious aperture hit and its weather proof!
@dangernba
@dangernba 4 жыл бұрын
Great lens and brilliant review. Greetings from Brazil.
@44Bigs
@44Bigs 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Sounds like an excellent travel lens for jpeg shooting to me.
@pforpramit
@pforpramit 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this excellent video Chris! Would request you to make a comparison video among Fujinon 18-55/16-55/16-80 lenses. Thanks in advance!
@jukeboxjohnnie
@jukeboxjohnnie 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, not as good as I hoped after the hype but such a useful review! Could still be right for me with that stabilisation
@guattodaddo
@guattodaddo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this! Really appreciated
@MrCyberSlacker
@MrCyberSlacker 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, an excellent review!! I love the comment, "Barrel distortion is pretty wild!!"
@jonnycohen5687
@jonnycohen5687 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding losing focus when zooming, the 16-55mm does the same. Its because they are variable focus lenses, as opposed to parfocal, which are quite a bit more expensive.
@manolopresas4799
@manolopresas4799 2 жыл бұрын
You'll be better off cutting into a tighter focal length instead of incurring into that horrible 70's pathology...
@anthonysimpson6738
@anthonysimpson6738 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting lens and I was considering it but size meant went with the 18-55mm, I wanted the small package. Great review.
@luismanibarro
@luismanibarro 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, best of all for 2020. My brother would like to enhance the focal length of his XF18-55 and previously, according with your review, my advise was to hold the old lens. Now, after the firmware 1.02 upgrade, would you say the buy is a good decision?
@gabrielrosu3977
@gabrielrosu3977 4 жыл бұрын
Great Contrast, color, build quality, decently sharp, just what I wanted. Plus, weather sealed with marked aperture!
@gabrielrosu3977
@gabrielrosu3977 3 жыл бұрын
@Olivier La Buse I've already made some amazing print from this lens, 24mpx x-t2, perfect combo. I'm not one of those corner photographers anyway
@bill3117
@bill3117 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo of the corner sharpness issue. Have any firmware updates helped with this as we live in 2022. I've got one ordered, but I doubt I'll keep it given the corner sharpness issues. I have a 16-55mm. I guess I'll just lug that around instead, and carry a 50-140mm when I need more zoom.
@kirankumargm
@kirankumargm 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, where can I find information on how to use this lense, especially what is that A symbol in red text meant for
@karimnasser9226
@karimnasser9226 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading the video Chris. Interesting how the pictures that Chris uploaded look really nice in the center and the corners but the chart performance is just OK and not impressive. This is a good example where you shouldn't pixel peep so much and judge based on output especially if you don't print large.
@russellbaston974
@russellbaston974 4 жыл бұрын
There are, with all lenses, batch variations, I got this p/xd the 18-55 2.8/4. Mine, thankfully must be a “good one” sharpness is very good everywhere.
@sherwinh1661
@sherwinh1661 4 жыл бұрын
hi Christopher, do you recommend this lens for fashion photography in studio? im considering also the 16-55mm which do you recommend? i currently have the 35 f2 and 23f2 on an xpro2. thanks in advance!
@Magnetron692
@Magnetron692 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thanks a lot for this review! I have the Canon counterpart, namely the EF 4.0/24-105mm L IS USM Mk. II. Purchased it via eBay from an UK seller. I’m very happy with it. Best wishes, Ralf
@Step4ward1
@Step4ward1 4 жыл бұрын
How do you compare your 24-105 ii to this fuji 16-80?
@Magnetron692
@Magnetron692 4 жыл бұрын
Because the Canon is the equivalent to this lens considering the crop factor of the Fujifilm system.
@Step4ward1
@Step4ward1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Magnetron692 of course. I think I there is some misunderstanding. How do you think, which Lens is better about image quality especially at longer end?
@kobiocrypto1227
@kobiocrypto1227 4 жыл бұрын
Is this a pre-production version because mine is excellent. Not sure about this review because night and day from mine. The lens I received last week is not going to leave my X-T20 and my X-H1 will be used with my primes. Although video with my X-H1 and the 16-80 is stellar!
@sandypapineni
@sandypapineni 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review as always 👍 If you get chance please do review on zoom lens Fujinon 100-400 !!!
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
One day I will, yes :-)
@ernestmartinez4106
@ernestmartinez4106 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 16 1.4 and the 18/55 2.8 dont know whether I would benefit buying this 1 for holidays
@sjmedia_official
@sjmedia_official 3 жыл бұрын
Hi have this lens, but I shoot mainly video. What better option would you recommend?
@Zlin0035
@Zlin0035 4 жыл бұрын
the stablisation combined with my XH1's IBIS would be increadible for handheld shots and video
@Goonercry
@Goonercry 4 жыл бұрын
It dpends bro, look up the comparison of fstoppers about ibis and lens is of panasonic, it's may be the case of this fuji
@parranoic
@parranoic Жыл бұрын
WR my a**, so I got the lens 6 months ago, I took 2-3k photos in gorgeous weather. I always keep my lenses with caps, in sealed bags and those bags inside sealed pouches or backpacks (that are inside closed cabinets). And It has dust inside, just like the xc 35mm f2 :)
@pieterdewit5335
@pieterdewit5335 4 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about getting a Fuji camera for quite some time now. This lens looks great, but I’m used to having a 18-150mm lens with me on holidays. Could you try and review the Fuji 18-135mm lens for me, to see what’s the better choice?
@MrTrisdiastatos
@MrTrisdiastatos 4 жыл бұрын
it must take a lot of patience to make these videos. thanks!
@carjac820
@carjac820 3 жыл бұрын
What I love about this lens is that you can choose to have this in the fuji kit instead of the standard 18-55mm kit lens.
@MusabJilani
@MusabJilani 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be very interesting to see how the 18-135mm's image quality compares to this one's, given the similar price points of the two lenses. They could both serve the purpose of a very convenient one-lens landscape photography solution, so it would be good to know how much image quality exactly the older 18-135mm gives up for the extra reach. There are a lot of subjective opinions out there, including opinions about how the softness people complained about on the older lens is from bad copies from when the 18-135mm was made in China and the newer ones made in Philippines have better quality control, so an objective review of the 18-135mm on your excellent setup would be very useful.
@philipcooper8297
@philipcooper8297 2 жыл бұрын
You can check Christopher's video review of the xf 18-135mm on his chanel. I tried both, the xf 16-80mm and the xf 18-135mm and find the xf 18-135mm a bit sharper and better value. Variable aperture of f/3.5 to f/5.6 (xf 18-135mm) is alright for still photography. I mean, you have to stop down both of these lenses to get at least some corner sharpness at wide angle and the telephoto end. I also find all the superzoom lenses perform the best in the middle of the zoom range. The xf 16-80mm at 80mm is much softer than the 18-135mm at 80mm. My copy of the xf 18-135mm is best between 30mm and 100mm, but whatever focal length you choose, the middle is always sharp, even at 135mm f/5.6 or 18mm f3.5. EDIT: My copy of the xf 18-135mm is from the Philippines.
@philg6757
@philg6757 4 жыл бұрын
I`ll be keeping my 18-55,it just didn't`t have the performance in 16mm that I was hoping for.
@dima1353
@dima1353 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Zooms like this can be interesting like landscapes instruments, but for this kind of work it need more sharpness from edge to edge.
@Aksunkuvat
@Aksunkuvat 4 жыл бұрын
Zoom newer surpass primes. I have the 16mm 1.4 and its god glass in all aspects.
@kobiocrypto1227
@kobiocrypto1227 4 жыл бұрын
This lens blows the doors of my 18-55. Please do not go by this review alone. My experience is so much better than his
@tonyelsom
@tonyelsom 4 жыл бұрын
@@kobiocrypto1227 16 55 the best, 16 80 not far behind. Both these lenses blow my 18 55 away, this guy must have a bad copy. mmphotogandbike.home.blog/2019/07/29/new-fuji-travel-zoom-my-thoughts-on-the-xf-16-80mm-f-4-0-wr-ois-mtf-comparison/
@Petrolhead66
@Petrolhead66 4 жыл бұрын
kobio crypto define blows your 18-55 away. Quite a strong statement
@eliaspap8708
@eliaspap8708 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Reason it’s slow in focusing in low light is due to your camera model XT20, the newer XT4 and Xpro 3 focus a lot better faster in low at -6ev
@MrSeppieD
@MrSeppieD 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, I nearly pulled the trigger on the X-T4 + 16-80 kit, but now I'm having second thoughts. My intended main use is travel and landscape photo- and videography, for which this lens seemed a perfect allrounder. What initially drew me to this lens over the 18-55 was my understanding of it being parfocal, its extended range and weather resistance. Out of these three advantages, only the last still seems to be standing: weather resistance; the lens clearly isn't truly parfocal and the lens is rather un-sharp in its extended range. But even then, I don't understand to which extend so-called weather resistance is effective, i.e. whether it contributes significantly to improving body and lens longevity when exposing them to humid environments. If it's not that much of a game changer, I might opt for the X-T4 + 18-55 kit after all, for its lower price point, even lower weight, higher speed on the wide end and apparent higher sharpness. Then, extend my range with an additional wide and tele lens in the future.
@lakeimaging7062
@lakeimaging7062 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice review, thank you! I was hoping for slightly better image quality.
@davegarth
@davegarth 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the distance between the lens and your test chart? Or, asked another way, how large is your test chart?
@samk2407
@samk2407 Жыл бұрын
As a pro photo video shooter who has owned this lens for over a year now, it is a really nice photo lens. The zoom range is very versatile, there are plenty of days where this is the only lens you need, and the OIS is quite helpful. However, this is a bad lens for video work. The issue with focus flickering was improved some with a software update, but the problem is that the lens is EXTREMELY not-parfocal. Zooming throws you way out of focus and the lens tries to autofocus to keep up but it just can't. You basically have to use it as a series of primes for anything that has a higher standard of quality than a vlog. It's also pretty soft, and doesn't always produce very pleasing images, at least to me. It's a very good utility lens, and I would definitely recommend it to photographers, but if you're doing anything video related, and already have some lenses in the fuji ecosystem, or an adapter, look at tamrons 17-70 f2.8 instead
@puffinfilm
@puffinfilm 4 жыл бұрын
Is the 750d compatible with the 100 to 400mm sigma
@user-qc2uv2gk4d
@user-qc2uv2gk4d 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best lens reviewer and I would love to see some videos based on nikon lenses like the kit lens which in my opinion is underrated
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I may test lenses on their new mirrorless system in the future - I don't think APS-C digital SLR cameras have a huge future, though
@nickbakis1553
@nickbakis1553 4 жыл бұрын
Great review as always Chris. How do you think the 18-55 range compares to the 18-55 zoom? It would be interesting to do a detailed comparison of the two.
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say the 18-55 is just a little sharper
@nickbakis1553
@nickbakis1553 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherfrost Thanks Chris
@JanneRanta
@JanneRanta 4 жыл бұрын
This would be super sexy replacement for my adapted nikon mount tamron 17-50 2.8. Costs 1½ times of my camera thought. But adding to wishlist for later.
@alexeyolshevsky7032
@alexeyolshevsky7032 2 жыл бұрын
great reviews!
@kian8382
@kian8382 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, that focus mechanism is that the camera automatically re-focuses the lens after zooming so that it maintains the focal distance, which means this is a very much vari-focal lens, it might just be the only one to make use of the re-focus technique that I can think of.
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm thinking too :-)
@ChocoLater1
@ChocoLater1 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherfrost 3 years have passed. Was there any firmware update to the lens that would or could fix this?
@StephanWiesner
@StephanWiesner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks that was helpfull
@Defcon1702
@Defcon1702 4 жыл бұрын
Stephan hast Du eine Idee wie man das Flickering beim zoomen angehen kann? Auto ISO verbessert es deutlich, aber es ist weiter vorhanden...
@StephanWiesner
@StephanWiesner 4 жыл бұрын
@@Defcon1702 Ich kenne das Objektiv nicht und kann da nichts zu sagen. Den Effekt habe ich so noch bei keinem Objektiv gesehen, ich stehe aber auch nie hinter der kamera wenn gefilmt wird :-)
@Defcon1702
@Defcon1702 4 жыл бұрын
@@StephanWiesner Hab es gestern mal am 16-55mm getestet (verschiedene Messmethoden und ISO Einstellungen) und das Problem selbst da. Gut - wie oft zoomt man wirklich? Trotzdem ein ärgerliches Problem.
@alejandro_mery
@alejandro_mery 4 жыл бұрын
thoughts compared to the xf 16-55 2.8?
@jyz96
@jyz96 4 жыл бұрын
I think the issue with wobbly focus while zooming during video is because the isn't parfocal, so the focus changes as you change the focal length. The camera is automatically adjusting focus as you zoom to try to maintain the same focus while zooming, but it isn't perfect. There's not much that Fuji can do to make this better. They could give an option to not auto-adjust and just have the lens go out of focus as you change focal length, but that option would only be useful for a very limited crowd of people.
@michaelmao6180
@michaelmao6180 4 жыл бұрын
Purely judging on the lens' image quality is not where this lens shines. I was reading and watching a bunch of stuff and one thing that many brought up is how 16mm is so important. Many also said that having 80mm gave them the extra reach so they don't need to carry an extra lens. The wider-aperture lenses and longer lenses in fuji's lineups are not cheap, and I can definitely see how 16-80 can be a good alternative to the kit lens if you need the extra reach. Also, since the IQ is very similar to the 18-55 and close enough in the 16-55, you really have a good balance between reach, IQ, aperture, and price. It's a good kit lens alternative, but definitely not the best of the best lenses fuji ever made in terms of image quality.
@pherylihy58
@pherylihy58 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Mao From purely an image quality perspective, do you rate the 16-80 superior to the 18-55?
@michaelmao6180
@michaelmao6180 4 жыл бұрын
@@pherylihy58 I don't own one, but according to the reviews I've seen, they are mostly on par. The benefit of a 16-80 is that it's so much more versatile, it has WR, better OIS, and a static aperture (good for video people so the aperture doesn't change as you zoom).
@warrenbarnes9653
@warrenbarnes9653 3 жыл бұрын
Contrast appears relatively low with this lens. Versus the 18-55mm f2.8/4.0, which would you prefer overall? Thank you./Warren
@kka3676
@kka3676 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detail review. How do you compare this lens vs the 16-55 f2.8?
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
Take a look at my review of that lens :-)
@ericchouinard8075
@ericchouinard8075 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very helpful. What is the image quality performance at 35mm (similar to that at 23mm)?
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to 23mm
@v1ceCSGO
@v1ceCSGO 3 жыл бұрын
did they fix the zoom focus problem?
@patrick.771
@patrick.771 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to buy a Fuji X-H1 with the 16-80 lens until I saw the reviews criticising the soft corners (which is not good for landscape photography). Would you say that the Nikon Z 24-70/F4 or the Sony 25-105/F4 would be a better choice for landscape photography? They seem to be better in your tests but not sure how big the difference in real world is ... The lens you tested that impressed me most was the Sony 16-55 but unfortunately I don't like the A6xxx series ...
@redbones01
@redbones01 4 жыл бұрын
hmm, maybe I'll wait for a used one to pop up when it starts to ship as a kit lens...
@andreasbuder4417
@andreasbuder4417 4 жыл бұрын
That zooming behaviour is in all their zoom lenses. It is caused by being a non-parfocal lens, but the autofocus module refocusses the lens, despite being in Manual Focus. It happens in the 18-55, 16-55, 16-50, 15-45, 18-135 and 50-140mm (I owned every single one of them). In their short zoom lenses it just isnt visible, because of the increased depth of field. It also shoudnt be visible in this lens within the range 16-50 approximately, if it isnt an extreme example of a non parfocal lens.
@mattbite
@mattbite 4 жыл бұрын
I guess if they cannot correct this via firmware, they should at least give us an option to turn this refocusing off - it will at least look more cinematic :)
@topcopy98
@topcopy98 4 жыл бұрын
Well, today all eyes are on the Nikon Z 50. I would really like to know what you think of the camera and almost as important, the two kit lenses on offer. Thanks.
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably a good idea for Nikon to launch APS-C cameras using the Z-mount, I don't think they'd crack the market with a new, smaller mount. Canon EOS M cameras have taken that thunder by now
@akarshkc9329
@akarshkc9329 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@senaritradutta
@senaritradutta 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chirstopher I m bit confused with 18-135 or 18-55 with xt30 can u help me out
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on whether you want a lens with a bright aperture, or a long zoom range
@Tom_239
@Tom_239 4 жыл бұрын
Focus breathing is noticeable in the corners (the lower left in particular) at 2:05, although it's not severe. It would've been nice to also show how much it breathes at other focal lengths.
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
It's at telephoto that you see the most breathing on almost every lens
@jamesborley4579
@jamesborley4579 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video 😃. Can you do a review of the Fujifilm 18-135mm?. I hear IQ is slightly interior to other lenses. I am not convinced as all Fujifilm glass seen to be top quality. I would like to know you opinion.
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I will be testing that lens eventually, yes :-)
@jmbernicle
@jmbernicle 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Have you done the 56mm f1.2 ?
@ChimaChindaDev
@ChimaChindaDev 4 жыл бұрын
No he hasn’t. Looking forward to that one.
@thomasmilet2879
@thomasmilet2879 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the review. How did you manage to stop OIS from working...?
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I can't remember on this one. Either in the camera menu, or there's a switch on the side
@Someone-dl7it
@Someone-dl7it Жыл бұрын
Hey Mr frost! Could we have a re-review of this lens for the new 40mp Fuji sensors
@stevelink21
@stevelink21 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice review, Christopher! I have the excellent Fuji XF16-55 f/2.8 Zoom, and have a major question...How does image sharpness on the XF16-80 (at 16-55) compare to that of the XF16-55 at say, f/8? The "Angry Photographer" rated the XF16-80 a "10", so I'm quite interested to see if it's even better than the XF16-55? Thanks!
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I've talked about this in the comments section of both videos. The 16-55 is clearly sharper - check out my reviews to see test results :-)
@breadyegg
@breadyegg 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to the 18-135mm, is the IQ better on the 16-80mm and (finger in the air) by how much? Essentially, if I sacrificed the 18-135mm's range versatility am I getting back enough IQ to make it worth it? thanks
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the 18-135
@Optidorf
@Optidorf 4 жыл бұрын
This lens seems to have the same pitfalls as the 18-135mm: quite soft when zoomed in or zoomed out to the maximum and an aperture of f/8 is required to take the sharpest pictures.
@garymanning4578
@garymanning4578 4 жыл бұрын
Optidorf 😀The same as every zoom lens so no surprises.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 4 жыл бұрын
The 'wobbly focus zoom' likely is because the focus is changing when zooming (i.e. the lens is really not parfocal). And the focus motor compensates (a bit delayed) when you zoom. If the lens was a power zoom the compensation could work a lot better as the motors would be driven at the same time. But in this lens, the focus motor needs to follow the zoom ring position.
@westsenkovec
@westsenkovec 4 жыл бұрын
Most likely a firmware issue.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 4 жыл бұрын
@@TackJorrance If you set the focus to for example 4 meters, and you zoom, it may be that the focus element needs adjusting. Even in manual focus mode. This, the focus motor could operate to compensate. The lens is focus-by-wire I think...
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I think you've got it - that's the kind of thing I was thinking of, anyway, that the lens is not really parfocal but the focus motor tries to make up for it
@thestrider4739
@thestrider4739 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherfrost You should try it on XT30/XT3. I've read a few blogs and reviews claiming this lens works exceptionally well with those cameras.
@Linebrell
@Linebrell 4 жыл бұрын
@@westsenkovec I have same thing on 18-55/2.8-4 on X-T2, latest firmwares. The effect is cleary visible when you are trying to zoom in-out faster.
@Photo-ms1mo
@Photo-ms1mo 4 жыл бұрын
I like the red " angry bird" expression lol!!🤣
@SunnySoCal
@SunnySoCal 4 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting you to do this so early but man i am glad thanks chris
@raspas99
@raspas99 4 жыл бұрын
So I don't get this to be honest because I'm not a lens Guy. All of the Fuji zoom lenses have terrible distortion. even if the price was 5 times less it would still be a bad performance distortion vise? But at the same time people live Fuji lenses so my question is is the distortion irrelevantenough for the people not to care or they just don't see it because of the software adjusting? thanks for these reviews by the way because to me they are the best since I don't know much about lenses and you spell out everything ,thanks.
@SuperNashwanPower
@SuperNashwanPower 10 ай бұрын
Serious bible commentaries! I just bought the lens as my first journey into Fuji. Looking forward to it.
@CrispyOkra
@CrispyOkra 4 жыл бұрын
Can I assume you prefer the lens XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 R LM OIS as far as overall image quality? I'm thinking of getting the XT3, with one or the other. Any advice or observations between the two?
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the 18-55
@theizza68
@theizza68 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the saturation seem to be low?
@Rocodil
@Rocodil 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Christopher, do you rate this lens better or less compared to the 18-55mm Fuji kit lens? You reviewed that lens earlier.
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, I don't know. Optically I think they're quite similar (the 18-55 might have a tiny edge) so I think it's down to personal preference - the 16-80 really does have a nice zoom range...I think I prefer the smaller size and higher build quality of the 18-55 though
@aloi
@aloi 4 жыл бұрын
Also worth noting that you can get a dekitted 18-55 grey market, for 1/3 the price of the 16-80
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
@@aloi Bingo
@patrick.771
@patrick.771 4 жыл бұрын
@@aloi haven't you had any problems with grey market lenses so far? I'm considering a new Fuji and grey market lenses would save me 1000 Euro ...
@richardgraham65
@richardgraham65 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. That focus is horrific! Probably not worth mentioning the price in Pounds these days as the way it is going as far as the exchange rates are going, it could be another 5 grand by the end of your video!
@leovanlierop4580
@leovanlierop4580 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good lens, stopped down. But I won't throw away my 16-55 just yet. Maybe Fuji can solve the wobble with video. I will wait and see.
@davegarth
@davegarth 4 жыл бұрын
Just a thought: If the corner softness is caused somewhat by distortion correction, can they be improved by using software that can turn it off on RAW files?
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, in theory
@davegarth
@davegarth 4 жыл бұрын
Can you try it? Thanks for your good work!
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost 4 жыл бұрын
@@davegarth Don't have the lens anymore. The difference in sharpness will probably not be huge, and 99% of users will correct their images anyway
@AbdonPhirathon
@AbdonPhirathon 4 жыл бұрын
Waited so long for this lens to come out, but it's honestly no that much better than the 18-55mm f/2.8-4, so I'll just keep the 18-55mm and save my money. Thanks for the review, Chris.
@mikewhiles4635
@mikewhiles4635 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Chris ,-focus wobble ? Firmware update or perhaps a faulty sample -please check this out fully as I am sure many potential users will have concerns .😎😎😎
@markcanlas2227
@markcanlas2227 4 жыл бұрын
Got mine today and it did that focus wobble too
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
@@markcanlas2227 Thanks for info Mark. They better be addressing this in a firmware update.
@paramedic4176
@paramedic4176 3 жыл бұрын
this or the 18-55 2.8/4 kit lens?
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