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Fujifilm 16-80 Lens Review

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Fujifilm 16-80mm lens review for photographers and X-T2, X-T3, and X-T4 camera owners.
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@ruggieromanente4855
@ruggieromanente4855 4 жыл бұрын
Honest, unbiased reviews that is what we look for and that is exactly what you deliver! Thank you for providing us with good, solid information so we can choose wisely between purchasing a piece of equipment or not.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ruggiero!! You so made my day.... yeah, $900 is a lot to invest. See how the other reviews on this lens deal with the focus issue. I really hope it's just a bad batch and I was one of the 'lucky' ones.
@arne.munther
@arne.munther 2 жыл бұрын
1.4 inches = 35.6 mm = 3.56 cm.
@BackFocus11
@BackFocus11 4 жыл бұрын
The Fujifilm owner/user community thanks you. In a world full of company sponsored “influencers” it’s nice to see a retro KZfaq style honest mans account. Sony especially is wining dining and hooking up many with a following on KZfaq. And we all know to a degree that opens the door to even the slightest bias and “quid pro quo” between company and influencer. I’m confident Fuji will kazen this and make improvements soon we hope.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! No winning and dining from Fuji for me. Although they did include a tiny, thin, cloth bag when I ordered the lens that they threw in the box along with the instructions and lens hood. :-)
@eyadtv
@eyadtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the best review i've seen so far for this lens, what i was waiting for, thank you so much! I hope fujifilm fixes the zoom and focus issue with the firmware very soon.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Eyad!!!! 🙏 I really appreciate it man!!
@djkokomo
@djkokomo Жыл бұрын
it seems that the new firmware update ver 1.10 of the lense change the problem of the XF16-80 when we use the zoom during a video shooting
@canuckdon
@canuckdon 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an honest, detailed review. I only shoot stills even though I've had video-capable cameras for years. I've never shot in video mode and have absolutely no intention of doing so in the future. That being the case, I think this lens is perfect for stills in the zoom range it covers.
@russellfernandes9607
@russellfernandes9607 4 жыл бұрын
The minimum focussing distance of 35cm is equal to 13.77" and not 1.4"
@pandoraefretum
@pandoraefretum 3 жыл бұрын
Ooops... never mind obvious mistake
@reflux043
@reflux043 Ай бұрын
​@@pandoraefretum That 13.77 is rounded off to 14. The text was only a misprint in pal2tech's video, having a point in between the 1 and the 4 (1.4), instead of just 14 inches. People make mistakes, just like you have an extra s in focusing!
@mlmrv1060
@mlmrv1060 Жыл бұрын
I was really rooting to have this lens since its release. . I thought its a really good walk all round lens due to its focal range. Shame that fuji didn't send you the lens for free (hopefully they will send the xt5 free instead!) for all the reviews and lessons you make for the community which I totally appreciate. Chris, you took out a lot of frustration from many users of the tutorials you give that fuji did not provide. Many thanks
@semiheadbager
@semiheadbager 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wedding videographer/filmmaker and I own this lens. My pros/cons would be Pros: -I can leave it on my camera and worry only on my work, which is finding the best composition on the fly -16mm let me shoot some nice wide shoots -The image from it is a solid 8, not as good as the 23mm 1.4 or other primes but superior to other zoom lenses from other brands. -Build quality is a 10 -Stabilization is great even on 80mm -The zoom barrel is kinda soft, which is good for soft zoom in/out -Autofocus is great, can be quick and snappy or soft and cinematographyc Cons -This lens should cost 500 brand new and used 350 -On video, when you zoom in or out, even if you do it softly the corners show some distortion which is corrected immediately but it is noticeable -On video, Autofocus when zooming is unreliable (i leave it on manual and I zoom softly to not lose focus point. If I zoom faster the focus is lost) -For me 80mm is not far enough, but 16mm is great for a zoom lens
@reboundk1ng
@reboundk1ng 4 жыл бұрын
I was so close to buying this lens, but after seeing your review I guess I'll wait..thank you so much for the video
@richardpalmer4471
@richardpalmer4471 8 ай бұрын
Call me simple but IMO the first 45 seconds of this is the best intro that I have seen on KZfaq. Brilliant!
@jeffersononetwo
@jeffersononetwo 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Fujifilm guy and love my cameras ... I also have worked for NASA for 30 years so I loved seeing your NASA paraphernalia! Great video and honest review
@ekipgrass2323
@ekipgrass2323 2 жыл бұрын
8:30 did you mean 3.5 cm ? one inch is 2.54 cm
@jianxiong69
@jianxiong69 Жыл бұрын
I would still go for this lens for video as it's pros far outweigh it's cons. Further more, almost all professional filmmakers advise against using zoom while shooting. Thanks for this great review. 🙏
@martycavassa
@martycavassa 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Assuming you may have decided to keep this lens, I have 2 questions: 1) did the subsequent firmware releases improve some of the concerns you found in your initial tests? 2) On the X-T3, which IS Mode do you prefer for photography when using this lens? Continuous or Shooting Only?
@traceybartlam7737
@traceybartlam7737 11 ай бұрын
I was wondering if those issues were fixed too! I am trying a used version atm and am getting mixed results (photography not video). Not grabbing focus well all the time and very soft around the edges. I’m on the fence as I was originally going to the 18-55 but liked the idea of 80mm, particularly as a lens to take on holiday
@Alex90381
@Alex90381 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, how is the situation with 16-80 after year? Still have focusing issues in video mode or firmwares fixed it? I want to buy X-T3 mostly for object photography, but I can't decide which one is better: 18-55 or 16-80. Thanks for answer, really need your advice, because I couldn't find good comparison between this two lens.
@jimgibson5265
@jimgibson5265 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Chris! Im sticking to my 2 lens travel pack 18-55 and the 55-200. Personally I couldnt be happier having this combo, light and stabilized for an older hand! Thanks again Jim
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim!! Thanks man... and yeah, the 55-200 is one of the most underrated lenses they have. Awesome and versatile piece of glass. You literally go from 18-200. Kind of like my opening shot in the video, LOL.
@RezaAliMN
@RezaAliMN 4 жыл бұрын
Am going through KZfaq researching Fuji lenses. This is a great and comprehensive review. I especially like the flow as well as objectivity. Subscribed and looking forward to more.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I am sorry for the late response. I've been buried in comments lately so getting to this just now.
@mdjubair6874
@mdjubair6874 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I'm watching your reviews, and honestly this is so good. I love it. keep it up and make more and more reviews. Thank you.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Md, thank you so much for the kind words! 🙏 🙏 That means so much to me that you like the channel and please do keep in touch!!! All the best to you sir!!!
@MalaikaToo
@MalaikaToo 4 жыл бұрын
Love your enthusiasm throughout the review! Thank you for your time.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Not a problem, I'm really happy to help in any way I can!!! Thank you so much for the kind words and all the best to you!!! 🙏
@XavierMinguellaPhotography
@XavierMinguellaPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
I bought that lens past week and I love it. I was considering to get the 18-55 but in that case I prefer use my 18 f2 + 35 f1.4 + V56 f1.4, so in fact I wanted a relatively compact lens and not really heavy, in fact face to face it has the same size of a 10-24 (when it is not extended of course). So, the question it was, a 16-55 f2.8 or a 16-80 f4 OIS, the 16-55 it is a great lens but for me it is like a 18-55, so I prefer an 18 f2 to a 16 f2.8. Optical stabilizer and dimensions are quite good in that lens so in my X-E3 it is perfectly balanced or I feel that in my case, the weight difference versus the 18-55 it is not that big, but versus a 16-55 it is, my first body it is a X-H1 and as it happens in your X-T3 (or T4) it is perfect. What about distortion? I like what it does at 16mm and even at 80mm. Sharpness, it is sharp, I did not make a full test but corners at 16 are pretty good in Street Photography and then for portraiture you get sharp images in the center and a lovely bokeh. I tested what you showed about video, well, I did not do any video because I do not make videos but through the EVF I did not noticed that, maybe because my zooming it was more slow than yours, but video makers are not use to use that "technique", sometimes they use it but not many, I don't know I think I am not going to make videos like this, just because I work in a different way. So conclusion, as the Canon shooter I was I like how it feels in hand, the Nikon zoom direction it is very confortable and probably my next zoom it will be the 50-140 just for that confortable sensation, as a Fringer adapter user I think it is a better option to a Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 VC G2 even if I prefer the 70-200 focal range in the APS-C Fujifilm sensor. A very nice zoom lens, well built, weather resistant, silent, fast and accurate, aperture ring, for me it is an excellent choice if you are seeking a compact and light lens. By the way, how it works that lens the image stabilizer with cameras with ibis? When I turn off the ibis in my X-H1 the OIS it doesn't work so, just image it is stabilized when in my H1 it is in continue mode, may I upgrade the last firmware for the camera? Thank you for your tests in KZfaq.
@ogedaydemiray
@ogedaydemiray 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused between buying fujinon 16-55 and fujinon 16-80. I'm living in Turkey. Those lenses are really expensive in my country because of economic sutiations and I watched your both videos which are about those lenses. Now I made my decision. I will buy 16-80 because it's cheaper and there is no really much difference between 16-55 and 16-80. Thanks for everything.
@lepokulm479
@lepokulm479 Ай бұрын
the new 1.20 update fixed it completely 👌👌👌👌
@garymanning4578
@garymanning4578 4 жыл бұрын
I concur with everything you say about this lens including the current zoom focussing problem but am very confident this is an easy fix for a firmware update. I have used virtually all Fuji lenses including many samples of the kit lens. Apart from the slight drop in corner sharpness wide open this lens blows the 18-55 out of the water. Before I get slammed for saying this please note in my opinion 18mm is a boring and limited wide angle range compared to 16mm. 55mm too is so limiting because at 55mm the kit lens is very flat in micro contrast and not terribly sharp. At least this 16-80 lens is fantastic as a portrait lens at 55mm with the bonus of 80mm short telephoto and who cares about corner sharpness with telephoto. All zooms are at their weakest at the shortest and longest ends. (Except for perhaps the 16-55 which is fantastic but has no OIS and weighs a tonne).The bokeh of this 16-80 lens is quite surprisingly attractive as you mentioned. The close focus is a bonus I didn’t expect and the ergonomics fitted to an X-T2 or an X-T3 is perfect. Great review and love your enthusiasm.👍
@tonyelsom
@tonyelsom 4 жыл бұрын
I will get slammed with you, the 18 55 is way short of the 16 80.
@garymanning4578
@garymanning4578 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Elsom Hi Tony why are people getting all negative about this lens. All zooms are at their softest at each end of the zoom range. Too many youtubers winge on about the results of pictures of brick walls and lens calibration charts. They are meaningless when it comes to actual photography. There are so many other features that make a lens great. Colour, micro-contrast, monochrome reproduction, tonal range, flare, close focus, handling.........etc. Use the wretched things rather than make judgements about amateur you-tubers who may have their own style and needs. Pal2tech is very good at presenting an unbiased balanced review. He is realistic about expectations and is actually very complimentary about this lens even if it is not perfect.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary!!!! I am sorry for the late response. I've been buried in comments lately so getting to this just now.
@katelu6822
@katelu6822 3 жыл бұрын
Best review so far for Fuji 16-80
@Nightmoss
@Nightmoss 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris for the review and your thoughts on the new 16-80mm lens from Fuji. I've been tempted to consider this lens, but the 18-55mm did so well for me at Disney World that I'm more than willing to take a wait and see position after listening to your points. The fact that the lens is also on back order at most camera stores is also a factor. I'm more likely to take my money and put it towards the Fuji 16mm 1.4 now and hold off on any more zoom lenses. All the best and keep the great videos coming!
@crisbde9970
@crisbde9970 4 жыл бұрын
hei Fuji just released a firmware update for this lens! They listened to you!!!! J
@crisbde9970
@crisbde9970 4 жыл бұрын
saleem akbar yes it did
@manukm2512
@manukm2512 3 жыл бұрын
Still haven't solved that issue a year later
@sethie_shots
@sethie_shots 3 жыл бұрын
@@manukm2512 right…still. Making me crazy still 😤
@yung103
@yung103 4 жыл бұрын
This is easily the best review I have seen so far. Great job!
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Joe, thank you so much man!!!! I really appreciate hearing that and please keep in touch -- more vids coming. All the best to you sir!!!!
@luisascenso265
@luisascenso265 4 жыл бұрын
And from 11.11.2019 Fujifilm released the 1.02 lens firmware for this lens. What about this new firmware, is it solved the prior problems ?
@roythompson6137
@roythompson6137 3 жыл бұрын
I got this as a kit lens with my new X-T4... Thanks for another great review!
@vitorazinheira1739
@vitorazinheira1739 5 ай бұрын
I just got this lens a couple days ago and went test NYC shots at night and it's very sharp and light, got it on facebook market new never used according to seller and just paid 425.00, for my surprise was like new not even any dustand packed like was never out the box. Great review. I have 10-24mm and also 72mm filter
@bigbeebrian
@bigbeebrian 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the artifacts in your photos. There's something about the way Adobe products process Fujifilm raw files. Instead, try the free 30 day capture one software. You'll see what I'm talking about. Fujifilm cameras produce much better bokeh and skin, up close, than what you are seeing in lightroom. If CaptureOne has too steep of a learning curve for you, try On1. It's cheaper and processes similar to CaptureOne. BTW, I also shoot Fujifilm. Good Vlog. I felt it was very honest.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, agree. Part of that is my fault -- I was over-sharpening because they were process in final cut pro, then compressed by KZfaq -- and I didn't want to lose details. I think I over-compensated! But yes, I actually own a copy of C1 and just need to get my butt in gear and learn it. And fast.
@mythbuster4315
@mythbuster4315 4 жыл бұрын
Man, i got capture one and it doesn’t recognize any images at all..tried everything but it’s still the same..
@bigbeebrian
@bigbeebrian 4 жыл бұрын
@@mythbuster4315 You have to use the one specific to your camera brand.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
hemu kurra Which version of C1 did you get?
@timfederwitz
@timfederwitz 4 жыл бұрын
For minimum focus distance, one of your two measurements is off by a huge error. It is 1.15 FEET, which equates to 35cm. 35mm would have equated to ~1.4 inches, but it is actually 35cm. Good video though and I appreciate the work you put in.
@paulasimson4939
@paulasimson4939 4 жыл бұрын
So much information! I was sure I was going to rush out and get this lens for traveling, but I think I'll hold off for a bit. As you say, no rush, as I have the 18-55 and I'm extremely happy with it, just with for a bit more reach.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that $900 is so much to spend and I'm out of organs now to sell! 😉
@paulasimson4939
@paulasimson4939 4 жыл бұрын
@@pal2tech Hahaha!
@luxdalet
@luxdalet 2 жыл бұрын
As of 2022, seems that they have mostly fixed it via updates. Still kinda there, but no longer so noticeable as when I had purchased it. Turns out your review was one of my deciding factors in getting the lens with my XT-4 :D
@dpvg
@dpvg Жыл бұрын
8:30 - Dear USA, come to the metric side. We have 35 cm cookies. That's 13 ¾ inches. 🍪
@TomGibson7777TG
@TomGibson7777TG 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot did you use "C" or "S" when zooming. I had problems with the 18-55 when I used "C" when zooming. With "c" XT3 it did not keep up with focus tracking when zoomed out. Hope this makes sense.
@fatchoifatchoi
@fatchoifatchoi 4 жыл бұрын
You did a really great job in the review. I was considering adding it to my collection while owning a 18-55. Now holding off and rethink.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Johnny!!!! Yeah, I really really really wanted to LOVE and recommend 100% this lens. I love so much about it, but again, just can't get past the focus wobble. If they missed the boat on that, what else could be wrong w/ it. Definitely hold off and see what others say. The lens is not going anywhere -- and can only get better with a firmware update. Cheers pal!!!
@fatchoifatchoi
@fatchoifatchoi 4 жыл бұрын
@@pal2tech I don't take video much using my XT2 but true we'll need to wait a firmware update to fix the bugs. Guess it wouldn't take too long. 😀
@fatchoifatchoi
@fatchoifatchoi 4 жыл бұрын
@@pal2tech www.fujirumors.com/fujinon-xf-16-80mmf4-r-ois-wr-firmware-1-01-released/ A new firmware is out. Said to have fixed the problem.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
@@fatchoifatchoi Yeah... in fact, they just released one. I made a video about it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j516e6dzzc7TiZs.html. Unfortunately, it didn't fix the wobble issue.
@sandypapineni
@sandypapineni 4 жыл бұрын
You are just awesome and your explanation on the products are incredible ..the videoes you post really help Fuji users to get it right now or wait for the Fuji to release firmware updates to fix the mentioned issues👍
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you so much Sandeep!!!! 🙏 So nice of you to say and you ROCK man!!!!!!
@nerdMike
@nerdMike 4 жыл бұрын
Hello :) the most surprising thing is that people started talking a lot about video zoom problem with this lens, where you have the same or worse problem on 16-55 2.8 and also 50-140 2.8, even on MF. Your image get blurred while zooming becoming unusable, new 1.02 seems to not solve at all this problem, to be is kind of "design problem" for most fuji zoom lenses. I don't have this problem on cheaper Lumix kit zoom, they dont' blur the image while zooming, then the parfocal factor is another problem but image remains clear on other lenses during the zoom process on my cheap lumix zoom.
@VyasAnand
@VyasAnand 4 жыл бұрын
nerd Mike what you shooting the Office?
@kevinpritchard6260
@kevinpritchard6260 4 жыл бұрын
Great real world review certainly gives pause for thought on purchasing this lens...thank you for committing your time and resources to help us all
@ErikNaso
@ErikNaso 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. While the lens does have this strange focus issue when zooming, it's not designed to be a video parfocal zoom like the Fujinon MK lenses. It's a stills lens. Even the 18-55 has some flicker when zooming. I can see it on the test you did. It even looks like the white balance was changing. I wouldn't use those shots in video production. Maybe a home video. A true parfocal zoom lens is a whole different lens and expecting MK zoom performance on an $800 still lens seems to me to be unrealistic. I will say it's distracting and if it can be fixed that would be a good thing. My main lens for video has been the Canon 24-105. My copy is parfocal but not all are. Again it's designed for stills, not video. I also don't zoom when shooting video on a stills lens. It's practically impossible to get a smooth slow pull/push with the zoom ring on the lens. I use the parfocal advantage on the 24-105 for getting several different focal lengths fast without having to refocus. Never use the zoom in the edit. I just got my copy and like it a lot. I do a lot of product shots for reviews and the extra reach is very helpful, plus the close focus is excellent. I don't see using the kit lens much anymore.
@plasticonegro
@plasticonegro 2 жыл бұрын
Several years ago I shot a short film with a Canon 5D Mark II, with the 24-105mm lens, and there's a shot that includes a fast zoom from 24 to 105, and there's absolutely no problem with the focus during movement, it's keeping the same sharpness and aperture all time. Because of the way I shoot video, due to the tone/mood that I want to give sometimes, to zoom is something that I, occasionally, like to use, considering that using it appropriately can be a great narrative and / or expressive resource. Well, I bought this 16-80mmF4 $1000 lens and it is impossible to do so with good results. Isn't that wonderful? Of course the Fujinon MK series was particularly designed for video/cinema work, for example there's no focus breathing in that case, but never before I had this issue zooming with any other lens, no matter if it was more designed for photography or video. Regarding my experience, and after I asked to others, this is absolutely abnormal. It is a bug and, and if is related with firmware, it should be corrected as soon as possible.
@AndreaLandini1
@AndreaLandini1 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! A great review! I'm using Canon and I was just curious to look. But I was forced to watch the full video. I found your pronunciation excellent too! I'm from Italy but I didn't miss a single word. It is a pleasure to hear you.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Hey that's Awesome Andrea!!!! Thank you!! 🙏 🙏 Major shoutout and greetings to Italy!!!!
@vishal_trivedi
@vishal_trivedi 4 жыл бұрын
My man Wayne Szalinski giving it to you raw no baked up tainted, paid off jpeg. Lol. The brand and rep you are building... I salute you. Besides it’s more than that, for me it’s becoming a familiar place, that warm feeling you get when your favourite 90s good wholesome family style tv show has a new episode airing this week. My next comment might just be straight lyrics from wholesome tv shows to pay homage to you. Thank you as always.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Vishal!!! Just so it's not 'Full House'. Any other 90's show ok, LOL.
@AndrewGoodCamera
@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын
Really you can't expect most any Fuji mirrorless zoom lens (varifocal lenses) to stay in focus whilst zooming. The best you can do is keep it in continuous focus if you're going to rely on zooming, or you will lose focus slightly. Even the 18-55 will be wildly unreliable if you're manually focusing whilst zooming. But the wobble is very strange though. I would expect it to just smoothly go a bit out of focus like most every other varifocal lens. Good catch. Can you tell me, how does zooming compare to the 18-55 when continuous focus is on? //A
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, thanks...and good point. I shot some test footage this comparing 16-80mm with 18-55mm at AF-C (continuous) with all other settings the same, etc. and here's the footage: www.pal2tech.com/downloads/16-80mm-review/afc-demo.mov I was going to include that, plus another problem I noticed with exposure variance while zooming in manual that was much worse than 18-55mm but just ran out of time. These YT videos take so long to make!. Anyhow, from what I can see here, both do it, but the 16-80mm crosses over the 'unacceptable' line for me since the entire frame seems to wobble vs. the 18-55mm which acts more like a standard varifocal lens -- at least on my monitor when I'm playing it back.
@AndrewGoodCamera
@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for sharing that! Man, that 18-55 is just so much smoother isn't it?
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewGoodCamera It really is... incredible difference. Crazy thing is they just published a firmware update today - very vague description on their site, just mentioning "Fix of slight defects". I tested this (and actually created another video review on that) but it did not fix the video focus wobble issue unfortunately.
@anthonyLCG
@anthonyLCG 3 жыл бұрын
i am soon to get my XT4 on coming week, still thinking to get the xf 18-55 or 16-80. It really benefits me after watched your unbiased review. Subscribed your channel, keep up the good works!!
@AgentBlackCrow
@AgentBlackCrow 4 жыл бұрын
KEYWORD: PARFOCAL (A parfocal lens is a lens that stays in focus when magnification/focal length is changed. There is inevitably some amount of focus error, but too small to be considered significant). I have found more info on the problem - which it might not be after all. According to Martin Heilbron the feature we are looking for is not available in these lenses, but admitedly some perform better then others in this regard. To get 'parafocaled' one has to look towards cinema line. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qpamoa9qlZ7Lnps.html
@rickyip7308
@rickyip7308 Жыл бұрын
In the meantme, do you know the issues has been solved? Thank you.
@trevor9934
@trevor9934 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you excellent review and style of presentation, it is very much appreciated. As you wisely predicted, I am viewing this review in Jan 2021, so some time after the event. I have not received my lens - it is stuck in a logistics gyre because of the global shipping disruption. That said, I got it as a kit with my X-T4 and I observe that both the camera and lens have gone through several iterations of firmware updates, including some to address video performance. However, I do not shoot video, sot that issue (if it is still an issue) does not apply to me. I do take note to of the corner softness, but prefer to deal with that and get the extra focal range for an enhanced walk-around performance. The other lens I got is the very new Tamron 18-300 lens for the x-mount, which offers even more flexibilty and so far the reviews I have seen indicate that it performs well above expectation for such an ambitious focal range. The proof will be in the use...
@pherylihy58
@pherylihy58 4 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed. I like your review style. Also, thanks for being completely honest about this lens. The KZfaqr who said it is perfect must be pushing an agenda. I cancelled my order and instead opted for the 18-55 on sale for 300. I think I'll hold off and wait like you recommended. Keep up the great work and I look forward to your future videos.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick!!!! I am sorry for the late response. I've been buried in comments lately so getting to this just now.
@hand-heldblender8107
@hand-heldblender8107 4 жыл бұрын
I am interesting in this lens for general winter outdoor use.We have in Switzerland usually a lot of snow. Sometimes strong wind with snowing. Great videos and photos can be taken under such conditions. Kit lens can survive these conditions but the life expectation of the lens decreases. A weather proof lens in this zoom range is inevitable. I am a bit upset to see its AF capability. I put it on the watch list but I do not run to buy one. It is on hold.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. Probably great (so long as no video) because once you get away from brick walls, and close up focus distance is not as much an issue, I think it would fare better in landscape for sure.
@muminhn1002
@muminhn1002 5 ай бұрын
"Zooming in and out - that's a big part of making video". ? It can be only me, but I don't remember quality cinema/movie or video production include zooming in and out while recording. If I recall correctly the productions where the zooming in and out is used frequently are those cheap, flashy music videos or really low budget serials mostly. But again I am an architect, not a video or cinema specialist, and dont want to make anybody feel wrong. Just sharing my experience from memory. 😊
@nicklennaerts4791
@nicklennaerts4791 3 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are always very informative while being very concise. Much appreciated! Spent a couple of years in Chattanooga, so that intro had me guessing (the address in the video description suggests it was probably the Atlanta area). Cheers from Japan.
@pauljsagun
@pauljsagun Жыл бұрын
So… did they fix that focus issue?
@19rotciv83
@19rotciv83 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: 14 inches min focus distance.... great video, I have the lens and I agree with you about all you said. The OIS is impressive.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, you are 100% correct!!!! I moved the stupid decimal point in the wrong direction. Ugh... Ok, I posted an update in the description. Great catch and thanks Victor!!! I really wish I could edit the video!!!!
@v12shane
@v12shane 3 жыл бұрын
I love this review, thank you! I was debating picking either the kit lens or this one and I'm going to go with this one. I appreciate you converting to metric by the way!
@zahifar3936
@zahifar3936 4 жыл бұрын
First time I stumble upon your videos and channel while surfing KZfaq. Clear and concise video! I guess the lens would be a good deal when it comes kitted with a body in the near future, and hopefully after Fuji having fixed that video zooming issue. The 18-55 was already well distorted and yet it is sharper in the corners than the 16-80 which shows significant amount of blurriness due to distortion corrections. But as you pointed out, great option for travel and obtain beautiful images without too much pixel peeping.
@FlatulEssence
@FlatulEssence 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest review of this lens. I always take your reviews very seriously. I was about to hit the ' buy now' button, but decided to postpone after I watched your video. Excellent video, as always. :)
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! Glad I could help!! All the best to you!!!!!!
@AnikiF
@AnikiF 4 жыл бұрын
Love your honest and real, simple explanation. Thanks.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Aniki!!!!! 🙏 I really appreciate your kind words. Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any XT3 questions or anything I can help with!!! All the best to you!
@AJ-em2rb
@AJ-em2rb 2 жыл бұрын
i prefer plastic lens hoods because they flex when bumped and absorb some of the shock. metal would either transfer all the shock to the lens (increased risk of damage) or dent (permanent damage to hood). plastic hoods flex, bounce, make noise, and then bend back into place all in a fraction of a second. it's just physics. my fave lens hood of all time is the Sigma 56mm lens hood. that thing is incredible
@Rabixter
@Rabixter 2 жыл бұрын
1.4 inches is not 35cm. I think you meant 35mm?
@alexjames421
@alexjames421 Жыл бұрын
35cm is correct - 14 inches
@Philhellene1
@Philhellene1 Жыл бұрын
​​@@alexjames421 But the minimum focusing distance is stated as 1.4 inches, not 14 inches, so 35mm or 3.5cm if that is the case. I see the manual for the lens says 35cm so the review is incorrect as that makes it 14" for the minimum focus distance
@emmgeevideo
@emmgeevideo Жыл бұрын
You knew the answer when you asked the question. Seems like a pointless question.
@Philhellene1
@Philhellene1 Жыл бұрын
@@emmgeevideo I knew the conversion but I did not know if the camera resolved to 35mm as stated or 35cm and tried to be polite in flagging it. If it is 35cm that is quite a difference and I thought it worth raising for anyone unfamiliar with the metric system. I apologise if the way I asked annoyed. I then saw Alex reply sometime later and had by then seen the manual and thought it worth raising the second comment. I was trying to be helpful, I enjoyed the review and simply wished to clarify.
@DarioCanadaPhotography
@DarioCanadaPhotography Жыл бұрын
I’m sure he meant feet! Lol lets give him a pass for how great he is!
@pennyfan13
@pennyfan13 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, this lens has weaker corners only when focusing is closer to the shooter, when it takes photo like landscape, corners are quiet good. You can give it a try and make another review if it is true.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Good point. Such a difference between factoring in wall-type only shots and landscape real-world use. I'll keep using this lens (just not for video) and see how that also factors in with further focus distance, etc. Thanks for mentioning this!!!
@mainakdas230
@mainakdas230 Жыл бұрын
A beautiful video, after watching many videos on youtube at last I've got what I was seeking, thank you very much.
@collodionpositive554
@collodionpositive554 3 жыл бұрын
Have lived with a single prime lens for a long time (23mm f/1.4) and really enjoyed that focal length so much so I got the f/2 version as well for WR and smaller weekend carry. But after I got a 50-140 for some event work I started missing the longer reach when away on casual / travel weekends where it was too much to carry such a large lens. I first considered adding the 50mm f/2 but not a huge fan of changing lenses in and around the city. So I have ordered this lens (after debating the 16-55 and the 18-55 but the size, OIS + WR convinced me). Not expecting it to be the best lens in the world, but as longs as it's better than my iPhone it will get a lot of use
@maheshsuradkar
@maheshsuradkar 2 жыл бұрын
So how it's going? Final verdict??
@tonyelsom
@tonyelsom 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 16 80 and agree it is a wonderful lens if you don't shoot video. I don't do video so the issue you mention doesn't apply to my photography. I have 18 55 , 16 55 and my conclusion for the way I shoot is that the 16 55 is the best but lacks the range of 16 80. If the 16 80 is a little soft in the corners at 80mm that is ok by me to have the extra range. I will personally be selling the 18 55 as in my opinion the image quality is nowhere as good as the 16 80. As for my 16 55, no way will I be selling that, it just won't be travelling with me anymore. I like your hands on review, rather than the Chris Frost review that quotes computer generated graphs that are open to interpretation and probably not many fully understand anyway. Bottom line to me, another fantastic Fuji lens . Thanks for the trouble you have gone to doing this review
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony!! I agree with you completely on the 16-55. If video wasn't such a huge part of my workflow, I'd be using that lens more and more. I LOVE the 16-55 the most for stills, but that lack of OIS is a nightmare once you start rolling video...and not always practical to carry a Zhiyun Crane around with me!! Thanks for the info!!!
@johnnydee7480
@johnnydee7480 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! Well done, you made my Friday. Thank you.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Johnny!!!! Thanks man. I totally forgot it was Friday!!!! Here's to the weekend and get out there shooting!!!!
@juancarlosplaza8301
@juancarlosplaza8301 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video. I am currently considering this lens for travel and your review helped me to decide. I'll get it as soon as I can.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Juan!!! Yeah, best lens ever for travel.... I just wish I didn't need to shoot so much video for what I'm doing LOL!!!!
@jakeybabyy
@jakeybabyy 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Amazing review, the Fuji content is awesome. Really appreciate the detail you put in. Thanks man!
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Jacob!!!! Thank you!!! 🙏
@billzidis2656
@billzidis2656 4 жыл бұрын
Why they cannot make a 18-35 1.8 like sigma did? We struggle with these apertures and i have to use the sigma instead of any fuji zoom lens.
@nerdMike
@nerdMike 4 жыл бұрын
Also considering the price of the Sigma in comparison.. FUJI lenses are really expensive considering crop factor. We need more 3rd party lenses 👍
@TheShadowtheCrow
@TheShadowtheCrow 4 жыл бұрын
18-35mm in Fullframe are like the Fujinon 10-24mm (15-36mm Fullframe).
@nerdMike
@nerdMike 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheShadowtheCrow The Sigma 18-35 1.8 is apsc only lens and become around 27-50mm equivalent to FullFrame! Also you still have 1.8 for exposure and lower iso. It's not comparable to the 10-24 (15-36)🤔 which is wider in comparison and not so bright (f4).
@trashken
@trashken 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Sigma 18-35. It's twice the weight of a fuji 10-24. Pretty sure Fuji can do it but it will feel unbalanced on mirrorless.
@halulee8148
@halulee8148 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@mirzanokto4466
@mirzanokto4466 2 жыл бұрын
So what happend with it after one year...focus fixed?
@Invincibleagent
@Invincibleagent 11 ай бұрын
I'm a bit late to this one, but 1.4 inches definitely isn't 35 cm! I guess you meant to say mm...
@wafflefreetech7062
@wafflefreetech7062 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to by the Fuji X-S10 and need to decide between the 16-80 or the 18.55, so just wondering if the focus issue with on 16-80 was fixed in a firmware update ? That aside, another great video - thanks for taking the time to make these youtube video's as they are very helpful for beginners like myself. Keep up the good work.
@joerichard171
@joerichard171 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris for a great review and comparisons to the 18-55
@polyviossimopoulos2436
@polyviossimopoulos2436 4 жыл бұрын
A good, extensive review of this lens - appreciated. Would you, kindly, comment regarding focus breathing of this lens?
@kbarrett1844
@kbarrett1844 4 жыл бұрын
Great accessible review style. Keep this up and your channel is going to blow up.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin! As I told another reviewer, for me to give this lens a perfect 10/10, it would have to collapse into itself, contort and fold into a LearJet, and fly me to the Bahamas. Just sayin. 😉
@RAF-FIG
@RAF-FIG 6 ай бұрын
I just bought one... Still confused on the OIS on how to shut it off or how to control it.. I should have watched this video before I bought it..... YET! I need to play with it & see what it can do.... GOOD VIDEO on the education on how to use it..
@kennethakennetha
@kennethakennetha 2 ай бұрын
the wobbling on zoom is not a big issue for me since I always stick to the same focal length when taking videos
@bugoker
@bugoker 4 жыл бұрын
Very good review! Keep up the good work!
@sakissarakinis
@sakissarakinis 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Great video once again! I was ready to buy it until your review now I will wait. Thanks for this honest review really thanks! Great job!
@pabojoe
@pabojoe Жыл бұрын
I got this lens with my X-S10 and love it. but... at 8:30 you said that the minimal focusing distance is 1.4 inches (35cm). You are missing a decimal point in the cm. 1.4 inches is 3.5 cm. 35cm is 13.8 inches.
@wookiee.gunner
@wookiee.gunner 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't 1.4 inches 35 millimeters and not centimeters?
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Donald Gaither Hey Donald! Yeah I know and totally screwed that number up. I put the damn decimal point in the wrong place. I wish KZfaq would allow editing of videos but the best I could do was put a notice in the comments.
@simonwhitten2051
@simonwhitten2051 4 жыл бұрын
Everything is bigger in America including the centimetres ;)
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
​@@simonwhitten2051 LOL!!!! Exactly!
@dennisg1045
@dennisg1045 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased this lens with the X-T4 around Christmas 2021 to shoot both stills and video of my grandkids. First thing I noticed was the zoom-in/zoom-out issue and thought it was me. Sadly, I haven't seen a fix as far as firmware is concerned. Wished I would've known this as I would've just purchased the 18-55 instead. Otherwise, like this lens a lot.
@dre7767
@dre7767 Жыл бұрын
Came to see the review of this lense thanks for the good concise information, 1.4 INCH is 35mm or 3.5cm, 35cm is just longer than an A4 sheet of paper.
@bdfrankmeow
@bdfrankmeow 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing review . Seems to eventuly become the best zoom choice for an xt-3 . That said, when i see soft corners on a fairly close flat surface like a stone wall, i wonder if it is simply field curvature meaning that those corners are out of focus . If i shoot a flower surrounded by leafs, it is a slightly closer one that would be sharp in comparaison to another lens that passed the wall test better.
@matthieuzglurg6015
@matthieuzglurg6015 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how does this lens compare to the other versatile zoom that Fuji makes : the 18-135. Does the additional range is worth the variable aperture, or does the constant aperture is worth the slightly reduced zoom range and slightly increased price?
@bill3117
@bill3117 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha on the glue idea! I just ordered one for a trip to Scotland. Its a short trip, so I was looking for a way to cover a lot of ground with minimal equipment. My 16-55, 50-140mm, and prime f/2's may never forgive me. I may take one prime for some discrete street photography. Has firmware fixed the zooming/video issue you and others have identified. Thank you for your help!!!
@renaton1215
@renaton1215 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great intro and such a honest review! Got a subscriber!
@dfj555
@dfj555 4 жыл бұрын
How did the Angry Photographer miss this? He gave the lens a 10 out of 10. He totally missed it on his review. Great review pal2tech! Which lens would you recommend, Fuji 16-80 f4 or Fuji 16-55 f 2.8? Thanks.
@gr4y1nu
@gr4y1nu 4 жыл бұрын
16-55 is better lens in every aspect, but - it's much heavier and costs quite a bit more.
@AlokSomani
@AlokSomani 4 жыл бұрын
@@gr4y1nu Well, the 16-55 also has no OIS. Definitely a factor until Fuji does IBIS in their main models.
@tonyelsom
@tonyelsom 4 жыл бұрын
I have both and am keeping both. 16 55 is too good to sell. 16 80 travels with me (I travel a lot) and 16 55 gets used at home
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
16-55. I am sorry for the late response. I've been buried in comments lately so getting to this just now.
@v1ceCSGO
@v1ceCSGO 3 жыл бұрын
great review, love it! Did Fuji fix the zoom focus issue?
@ecdsxxiecdsxxi5582
@ecdsxxiecdsxxi5582 4 жыл бұрын
Buen trabajo, muchas gracias por su tiempo. En mi caso, como no hago vídeos, no me importa ese problema de enfoque cambiando el rango focal. Pero espero que fuji arregle esos problemas de firmware. Felicidades.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
¡Muchas gracias por los lindos comentarios! Y saludos señor! Sí, espero que también solucionen estos problemas en el firmware. Tuve que devolver mi lente porque estaba muy mal. Quizás fue solo mi copia de la lente la que se rompió y no afectó a nadie más. De todos modos, sigue siendo una lente de viaje maravillosa y estoy muy contento de que pueda usarla y disfrutarla. ¡Gracias por visitar mi canal y todo lo mejor para usted, señor!
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 2 жыл бұрын
I know..two years ago. You were discussing corner softness. I wonder about the notion of focussing on the corners instead of the middle...just to see what you get, and what that says about taking pics. Speaking of the lens going out of focus when zooming, I would have stopped have stopped moving it when it went out of focus, refocussed, then tried again. Maybe it works better when it's focussed midway and then zoomed or widened....
@BenjaminKanarek
@BenjaminKanarek 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my 16-80 and 10-24 WR today! Love them!
@findus605
@findus605 4 жыл бұрын
VERY GOOD HONEST REVIEW ON A LENS THAT OTHERS SEEN NO FAULT IN. THANK YOU
@robertcudlipp3426
@robertcudlipp3426 2 жыл бұрын
It has been some time since your initial thoughts. Have the issues raised by you been addressed by firmware or engineering modifications?
@44Bigs
@44Bigs 4 жыл бұрын
We all knew there would be consequences in this lens design and you laid them out perfectly. It still looks like a great lens to me, though I really hope the focus wobble can be fixed.
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
44Bigs Thank you! 🙏 Yeah, you and me both. They just came out with a firmware update today but unfortunately it didn’t fix the video focus wobble issue.
@theperezgallery
@theperezgallery 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your passion thankful that I found you and I subscribed!
@12scarz9
@12scarz9 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for interesting review,and your honest opinion!🙌
@pal2tech
@pal2tech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! 🙏 That's so awesome to hear and I really appreciate your taking the time to let me know!! All the best to you!!!
@williamzhang6531
@williamzhang6531 3 ай бұрын
Just tested with firmware version 1.20. The AF-C wobbling issue during video shooting is still there. Very disappointing. Will have to return it and keep my 18-120 until a non-power zoom for video comes out.
@soorajskumar5666
@soorajskumar5666 3 жыл бұрын
I will just hold on to my 18-55 eventhough I don't shoot videos..thanks for the great details 💚
@davidposaas7350
@davidposaas7350 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel... Will be an avid follower. Thanks for your great FujiFilm camera content. Lot of great info to assimilate!
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