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Full Air Conditioner Replacement Using Stay Brite 8 Solder!

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The DIY HVAC Guy

The DIY HVAC Guy

Күн бұрын

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@pilotrserra
@pilotrserra 2 ай бұрын
You’re a good community-oriented person. We wish every technician had your philosophy. I don’t think you know how many struggling families you help. Your videos helped me and my wife install our AC and save thousands. We couldn’t afford the $9k installation costs. The whole family was sleeping in one room with a portable AC from Lowe’s . Now our new AC is working perfectly and children sleep in their own beds…thank you and god bless.👍😀
@leestokes6761
@leestokes6761 Жыл бұрын
Not an HVAC guy, just a DIYer. Saved my wife and I hundreds of dollars over the course of our 41 years of marriage. At age 67, I feel myself slowing down some and losing interest in repairs I physically can’t do any more (neurological issue). Anyway, I sent the links to your AC Compressor capacitor replacement videos to my daughter who lives in Mississippi. My son-in-law is in his third year of medical residency there and is the recently appointed head resident. With four children and student loans, money is very tight. Your videos allowed them to repair their Air Conditioning by themselves. Saved them some $600. With temps in the upper 90s and 90-95% humidity right now, lack of AC is life-threatening-especially for my six month old grandson.
@Blakehx
@Blakehx Жыл бұрын
Prayers for you and your daughter’s family! (Few people realize that the medical field is a tough one… it takes a toll on the individual, marriages, kids and friendships! Yes it often pays well but it can cost you much more than money!)
@pilotrserra
@pilotrserra 2 ай бұрын
I agree…I don’t think he realizes how many struggling families he helps. We have a similar story and he saved us. Our children now sleep through the night. The cost of HVAC is crazy. Corporate greed is destroying families. Society needs more people like the DIY HVAC Guy. God bless him.
@MrSongLamb
@MrSongLamb Жыл бұрын
Great video and quality craftsmanship DIY HVAC Guy! You had great tips throughout and were honest when you made a mistake. One word to describe all of that. Integrity. Thank you for being man of his word. Asked the community for input on what content people wants to see a few weeks back and made a video. Wow. That’s rare. Keep up the great work!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! 🙏🏻
@morallyinsane7639
@morallyinsane7639 Жыл бұрын
To everyone who thinks this guy is knowledgeable. He has his particular methods which are customizable depending on the service technician. As a seasoned HVAC professional with over 20 plus years, I would not recommend staybrite 8 on a 410a system due to its low melting point not strength. However should you choose to use it, mistake on line set at unit was not removing Schrader cores as nylon seals could melt and cause a leak also better to wrap valves just for same reason. Granted he is skilled but not everyone has the same skill soldering. Also he never mentioned doing an R-11 clean out flush on line sets to remove oil since R22 and R410a use different oil types that are incapable. A vacuum will not remove these oils. On the transition, you do not need to use metal duct, a faster and cheaper method is to use fiberglass duct board and silver foil tape. Works better and provides less noise and better insulation. Also he never added a heat block when soldering inside line set or mentioned one for rubber gaskets on coil plate. Also never mentioned that standard systems don’t use a TXV and use a fixed orifice. When placing the coil on top of the unit, you do not need to caulk it, use the same foil tape to tape around the seam of the coil and unit, it’s a better air seal and less messy then silicone caulk. Everything this tech tells you, take with a grain of salt, as he lacks experience, he has the basics down, but is still learning.
@SiHandyman
@SiHandyman 2 ай бұрын
So are you saying you dont vaccum a r 410 system to remove oil? Is a vaccum not necessary with 410?
@morallyinsane7639
@morallyinsane7639 2 ай бұрын
@@SiHandyman You evacuate the line set with a vacuum pump to remove non-condensibles, aka moisture that entered the line set and to allow refrigerant to be charged into the system. Should you be preforming a conversation from R22 to R410a and reusing the line set, you should flush the line set with either nitrogen or better is to use an R11 flush kit to remove any oil or oil residue that could be trapped in the line set.
@testtesting2868
@testtesting2868 Жыл бұрын
Let the heated joint pull the Staybrite soldier in and avoid applying the flame directly to the soldier. If you are attaching a 3/4" line-set, measure 3/4" of soldier, bend at that point and apply until you are down to the bend. That is all that you need. This avoids potential ball-bearings from too much soldier forming and returning to the compressor to self destruct.
@EarlHayward
@EarlHayward Жыл бұрын
Never used Staybrite, I always used 5% or 15% brazing alloy (sometimes 45% on appliances)… Granted, it has been 25 years since I was a tech, and about 12 since I last did a full install… I will have to lookup the specs, I assume there is some silver content…
@AK-oz4ew
@AK-oz4ew Жыл бұрын
While it makes sense I can't imagine "ball bearings" forming inside of lineset, any liquid solder that makes it inside (extremely small amount) will flow to the bottom permanently attached to the copper wall.
@pickalots
@pickalots Жыл бұрын
It’s important not to overdo the solder to prevent introducing debris to the line set. Debris in system isn’t a cheap service call. Be smart and do it right. I too broke from the hvac world several years back for less labor intensive work. The old days definitely used 5/15% stuff and I remember hauling our acetylene tank through all kinds of hell taking it to braze with that stuff. My dad has stayed in the biz and he switched to this stuff shortly after I got out; he swears by it also and it is effective for the application.
@carlwheeler3403
@carlwheeler3403 Жыл бұрын
You gave me a fabulous idea. I have a 4 ton Trane slab coil that has a small leak and it is no longer manufactured so replacing it with a similar Goodman unit would require some fabrication of the transition. I cringed at the thought of using an acetelene torch on the thin copper tubimg used on the evap coil, the Stay Bright is a low temperature solder and it may be just the solution I'm looking for to repair it without causing further damage by a torch. Thanks for the video !!
@Blakehx
@Blakehx Жыл бұрын
I really like that the Rheem unit is easily serviceable… I hate when manufacturers makes routine preventative maintenance stupidly difficult! Just like with cars, I’ll gladly pay a bit more for a vehicle that I can actually work on! (My aunt owns a Mercedes and literally can’t do anything but inflate the tires and refuel it with Premium only… anything else is both extremely difficult and likely voids your warranty!🤦🏻‍♂️)
@planetvance
@planetvance Жыл бұрын
19:55 I did two AC installs and skipped this step. I only did the vacuum test to verify no leaks. It worked great. Both systems are working great.
@banshee8989
@banshee8989 Жыл бұрын
On car systems that all I have ever done. I can see the value in pressure testing with nitrogen for someone who is doing many different systems, but for a DIYer like myself....... For a one time thing..... I just cant justify getting a tank and regulator for one time. Everything including the line set is new and Im pretty good at soldering.... The chances of a leak are very small, anyway. Im going to wing it it just do a vac test. Im 99 percent sure everything will be fine.
@craigheimericks4594
@craigheimericks4594 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Appreciate you sharing this with everyone! A couple things I noticed... The incoming power to the contactor looked like it was completely missing in the middle of the black wire. At 9:55 in the video. Is that an optical illusion? Removal of the micro vacuum meter. How do you deal with the little jet of refrigerant that comes out. And then adding back the guages when it's pressurized.
@deanmartin1966
@deanmartin1966 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I was taught that if it was less than 12 inches you didn’t need a cross break.
@user-vt8xi3dm1n
@user-vt8xi3dm1n Жыл бұрын
😊
@dannyl6507
@dannyl6507 Жыл бұрын
@23:15 that app is awesome. I bet half the HVAC techs dont take temp changes into account when pressure testing the lines. Thanks for making all your great videos!
@jetrep
@jetrep Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the device doesn't do that calculation for you
@JavierGonzalez-ft4mp
@JavierGonzalez-ft4mp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Thanks again.
@vasileiosbakas9754
@vasileiosbakas9754 Жыл бұрын
The bushes are going to trigger the high pressure switch one day, customer declined landscaping , he is going to pay for the hvac guy lol. Good job man!
@mattperry6965
@mattperry6965 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. I'm always cutting mine to keep a good air flow!
@pickalots
@pickalots Жыл бұрын
Had me screaming at you when you started that transition build. Thanks for reminding folks and add those inches for those bends folks!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 11 ай бұрын
doh! Won’t be the last time I goof up on that haha
@LouisS-cs7bh
@LouisS-cs7bh Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you guys having fun!!
@bryanditol4562
@bryanditol4562 Жыл бұрын
Dave. Nicely done with your best camera man. Learning a lot from your videos. God Bless!
@munozinni
@munozinni Жыл бұрын
How many brands you recommend with this type of design or easier the better I was pretty handy working in construction doing concrete framing,Sheetrock, tape and bedding and painting new construction and also remodeling, some plumbing and electrical but after I suffered a stroke everything just went down well at least I’m alive 😢but I might go to retired with my wife to South America and I want to take a unit like this for our place but I will need to my wife to be able to Conect it literally she is my legs and hands and she has learned a lot of stuff I’m prod of her but at the same time is sad 😞 because I use to be pretty active working and now I’m just here doing physical therapy 😢I apologize for bothering with my story but I wanted to ask you that and I know it’s easy but in my case I need the easiest not the cheapest, we aren’t rich either you know what I’m trying to say , Gracias for sharing this video I will keep checking for the next one,You have a great day sir!!!Saludos!!!👋😄👋
@AK-oz4ew
@AK-oz4ew Жыл бұрын
Interesting, high pressure went up less than 8 psi, and subcooling temp went up 9 degrees. Wonder is something was wrong with TXV initially or temp readings were wrong. I have similar unit and temp probes take time sometimes to get correct data. This is one big fear with SMAN - get wrong reading and easy to overcharge. I attach second clamp thermometer just in case. Great video
@Blakehx
@Blakehx Жыл бұрын
Nice work thanks for sharing it! Have you installed any heat pumps? Also, give that camera man a raise!😉
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
I’ll be doing a straight ac to heat pump conversion in a couple weeks! Stay tuned :) and thanks for the kind words! He’s already over paid for an 18 year old 🤪
@VumVan
@VumVan Жыл бұрын
Would love to see replacement of central air on top of an oil forced air furnace.
@keovongvilaykeo4799
@keovongvilaykeo4799 Жыл бұрын
Always great get the help opportunity to hand on to learn trade 😊 Thank you 🙏 😊
@dcj2045
@dcj2045 Жыл бұрын
I have a question, I use to braise years ego now I see people solder the joints what’s the difference also I don’t see you using nitrogen when soldering please explain I’m just asking because it’s been a while.
@RobRocker09
@RobRocker09 Ай бұрын
I usually out my dryer then sight glass outside. So I as fill it I can also see if the glass is flashing. If its not flashing its golden. What does the tag say about SH differential. Great job.
@meangreen2792
@meangreen2792 Жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!!! Thanks for taking us out in your job🔥💯🔥. Just OUTSTANDING!!! Thanks for teaching us the trade.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
You bet!!
@ArmySapper
@ArmySapper Жыл бұрын
Your own state mechanical code says you are not allowed to use solder on refrigeration lines and they must be brazed.😂But, I'm sure your customer won't care...since you didn't pull a permit either.
@pnp8849
@pnp8849 Жыл бұрын
That T1-T3 is just in case you installing 3 phase. T2 would be directly hardwired to compressor and stay hot. I think most HVAC relay with dc coil are label like that. I was gonna ask if Staybrite works on higher pressure 410a.
@LegendaryTransport
@LegendaryTransport Жыл бұрын
Im glad you laughed at 5:06 and i wasnt the only one 😂
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👊🏼 my camera man is a trip
@munozinni
@munozinni Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I apologize I was writing a comment in a wrong video I was watching the mini split video and I was trying to write a comment and a question… you probably were …. What this dude is talking about???👀are you sure you took your pills 💊 Lmao 🤣 😂😂😂😂Keep up the great work!!!😊
@electrolatif
@electrolatif Жыл бұрын
Great 35min video ❤thank you sharing your knowledge Whating for next video 😊
@marcosylvia5704
@marcosylvia5704 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Dave. Thank you!
@giantkillin8278
@giantkillin8278 Жыл бұрын
so much knowledge.. thank you!
@Brett-cv3jq
@Brett-cv3jq Жыл бұрын
Did the customer not want a new lineset? I change mine out when do my diy installs. I think its cheaper in than having to go back later and repair a leak and recharge with todays prices of refrigerants.
@natersalad889
@natersalad889 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, learned alot, thanks
@demetriosa7646
@demetriosa7646 Жыл бұрын
I notice that capacitor is a single round. Is this because the fan motor is an ECM motor so the capacitor is only for the compressor?
@derrickmartin8400
@derrickmartin8400 2 ай бұрын
Have you ever used star Brite solder instead of braising
@mikemarshall1394
@mikemarshall1394 Жыл бұрын
Is there enough side clearance for airflow on condenser. Get customer to cut down the ugly bushes.
@joecardona4301
@joecardona4301 Жыл бұрын
Good job well done sir 😊
@user-ux7ug6me2x
@user-ux7ug6me2x 3 күн бұрын
How this product works with aluminum pipes?
@natersalad889
@natersalad889 Жыл бұрын
What type of bit is used on the wrench m, when you open the valves on the condensor to release the refrigerant into the system?
@dewholdingsllc1050
@dewholdingsllc1050 Жыл бұрын
Do you have an opinion on geothermal units on a new construction project? Just wondering I don’t know a lot about them but I was told they are extremely efficient and they are very good at radiant heat slabs.
@RobertDickens2002
@RobertDickens2002 11 ай бұрын
What exactly is the reason you can't just use 95/5 the reason I ask I'm wanting to take an old window unit compressor and make a recovery unit for cars I was wondering if 95/5 would be good enough for that because that stuff you use is like 90 buck to only use once.
@davidwisniewski1505
@davidwisniewski1505 9 ай бұрын
So I assume that with this solder method that you don’t need to flow nitrogen?
@TAJcrawn
@TAJcrawn Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Algeria my friend
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
Hello! From Utah, USA
@tinysand3517
@tinysand3517 11 ай бұрын
Another great video Dave! Been thinking about upgrading my old A/C system. Currently I have a 4 tons R22 system on a 2 story home with 2500sq.feet and wanted to upgrade to 4.5 or 5 tons, but on the liquid size 3/8 and on the the suction size is 3/4 about 30-40 ft. of run max. Most of the new system that runs R410a the suction size is 7/8, so my question is will that effect the flow of the refrigerant? Any advice will greatly appreciated .
@brandonfarley5297
@brandonfarley5297 Жыл бұрын
I thought you had to braze line sets? Or can you solder them?
@BKishan48
@BKishan48 Жыл бұрын
5:06 haha😅
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
🤣
@2slofouru
@2slofouru 11 ай бұрын
Doesn't some of the flux get inside the system when the solder wicks in?
@Tony01236
@Tony01236 Жыл бұрын
thank you sir!
@modestohodesto7140
@modestohodesto7140 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. My only question is the old system from 1995 is probably r22. New system r410 What did you do to flush/clean the line set?
@shanehamilton6708
@shanehamilton6708 Жыл бұрын
He probably used a can of flush I would assume
@pnp8849
@pnp8849 Жыл бұрын
The guy vacuum pump is more expensive than my car I'm sure he know what he's doing.
@ephremtiku
@ephremtiku Жыл бұрын
Where do I find the true blue hose? Thank you very much
@Steve-rc4np
@Steve-rc4np 25 күн бұрын
Need some advice. Trying to use staybrite 8 near the suction line and the joint started to spit. I was trying to fix what I thought was a gap after I initially soldered the joint. Should I reheat and remove the joint or just heat it back up and add some more staybrite 8 and be done? Thank you
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy 25 күн бұрын
Reheat and compress it a bit with some pliers and it should take 👌🏼
@Steve-rc4np
@Steve-rc4np 23 күн бұрын
@@diyhvacguy I am evacuating the system and took the suction service line king valve off and feel suction. Is that normal or does that mean the valve is shot and needs to be replaced?
@mikethedesertrat
@mikethedesertrat Жыл бұрын
At 24:50 you mention "15 feet" of pre-charged freon". Are you talking about line distance from the condenser to the evaporator? If so, does that mean you typically have to add more freon if the run is longer?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
That exactly right 👍🏼
@alexandergorelov2515
@alexandergorelov2515 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for video! What is type refrigerant in new air conditioner? R407? R410?
@catchingdreams600
@catchingdreams600 3 ай бұрын
It’s R22
@alexandergorelov2515
@alexandergorelov2515 3 ай бұрын
​@@catchingdreams600 Thanks for answer. R22 very good refrigerant! Not high pressure. No glide, as R407.
@johnwedgeworth4908
@johnwedgeworth4908 Жыл бұрын
How do decide to go with Stay bright 8 versus sil fos 15 silver solder? As you use the sil fos 15 in some of your other install videos. Thanks.
@AK-oz4ew
@AK-oz4ew Жыл бұрын
That original pipe with 100 fittings... ahahahaha
@kyngsley1
@kyngsley1 Жыл бұрын
Your video are excellent. What gauge wires do you use from the furnace to the condensor. Also what is your opinion about Ruud system compare to tempstar. I'm look to change out my ruud system
@shanehamilton6708
@shanehamilton6708 Жыл бұрын
The only wire from the furnace to the condenser is your 24 volt thermostat wire. From the furnace board to each side of the contractor. Now the 240 from disconnect to condenser should be 10/2. From panel to disconnect is also 10/2
@shanehamilton6708
@shanehamilton6708 Жыл бұрын
For the furnace it depends on if it’s gas or electric. I like to use 10/2 if electric and 12/2 if gas. If you are using 30 amp breaker go with 10/2. 20 amp breaker use 12/2. I hope that clears it up some
@kyngsley1
@kyngsley1 Жыл бұрын
The furnace is gas
@joecardona4301
@joecardona4301 Жыл бұрын
Dave do you like the 3 port fieldpiece gauges or the 4 port with black hose vacuum one like to buy one not sure what’s the better one to use? Thanks
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
I love my 3 port. You have probably seen the way I pull a vacuum with my one tru blue hose kit and no manifold, so the 4th port would be useless for me. Here is a link for the three port :) I also recommend getting a set of low loss hoses separately so I left a link for the ones I use as well. cheers www.amazon.com/dp/B07QJ7P63Z/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_YGHKP3B8X0MBBK3NQ9DY?linkCode=ml2&tag=wasatchmoto0d-20 amzn.to/3NSYNbJ
@deonjames2086
@deonjames2086 Жыл бұрын
Are they running Nitrogen when they soder or does using the Stay-Brite negate that need?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
Yea you don’t need nitrogen flow with sb8 👍🏼
@nikkiau1
@nikkiau1 Жыл бұрын
As an HVAC guy, you have any inside scoop on Trane and their backorders of compressors? My mom's been without a/c for 2 months now. I'm going through your videos just in case I need to have a family member install it lol
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
I don’t. Didn’t know they were short handed on compressors. Just change out the whole unit man. It’s probably easier anyhow
@nikkiau1
@nikkiau1 Жыл бұрын
if I could I would lol at the mercy of Trane now@@diyhvacguy
@hosocat1410
@hosocat1410 Жыл бұрын
How would you rate ruud compared to goodman. Here in the southeast probably close to 75% of the units installed are goodman.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
Yea I’m from Tennessee, a lot of Goodman’s out there. There is definite a quality increase going from a Goodman to Ruud/Rheem The installation is about the same. Goodman has a good product, but it’s absolutely builder grade
@russm1757
@russm1757 Жыл бұрын
what would using stay bright do as far as the manufacturer warranty when the manufacture calls for brazing?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
If you have to remove a compressor to warranty it out in 9 years, they aren’t gonna be asking how the lines are secured. You bring in the old and swap it for a new one.
@ArmySapper
@ArmySapper Жыл бұрын
​@@diyhvacguy😂ur a hack🤡
@sundogaudio851
@sundogaudio851 Жыл бұрын
hey. can i use stay bright 1/8th solder instead, doing the same thing as this?
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
I’m not understanding your question. If you are installing a new system, yes you can use Staybrite 8 just like I did here and many of my other videos 👍🏼
@kevinikola8003
@kevinikola8003 Жыл бұрын
Such great videos! Thank you!!
@bobbaurhyte8281
@bobbaurhyte8281 Жыл бұрын
I'm a diyer, but always thought braising was done instead of solder for a/c. What about that?
@FixthisCD
@FixthisCD Жыл бұрын
he has a video about it, like 2 or 3 before this one.
@petersmart1999
@petersmart1999 Жыл бұрын
Manufacturers advise brazing,but some youtube guy said he uses Stay -Brite 8 ,so that became the industry standard. Yes,brazing with nitrogen purge is how it should be done.Look at it this way,you should sweep with nitrogen any how to remove air and moistire and leak check,so your hooking it up anyway. Look inside any unit and you will see all connections are in fact brazed,why if stay brite is better? It has its place ,but not withing 6 ft of a compressor
@thembones12
@thembones12 Жыл бұрын
Stay-Bright8 solder & Stay-Clean flux can be used instead of "Brazing"......
@80SWoods
@80SWoods Жыл бұрын
Stay-Bright 8 is a direct replacement for brazing. There is no need to braze AC lines. Pulling a vacuum removed all moisture and checks for leaks so you don’t need to pressure test with nitrogen.
@petersmart1999
@petersmart1999 Жыл бұрын
@@80SWoods Any good tech,always does a pressure test! And you are wrong,Stay Brite 8 is not a replacement for brazing. I dont really care what the Harris website says.I have been doing HVAC installation and service for 29 years,and its a copout for lazy technicians! Same goes for press tools and push to connect! I have been seeing failures of all of those as well as Stay Brite on 410A systems especially!
@electrolatif
@electrolatif Жыл бұрын
Can we use Oatey solder for Aircon piping?!
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
Not sure on that one. Sorry
@electrolatif
@electrolatif Жыл бұрын
@@diyhvacguy thank you for your reply 🙏
@chvorn
@chvorn 11 ай бұрын
If use too much solder it’ll fall into the system.
@-mejor-que-nostradamus-6152
@-mejor-que-nostradamus-6152 Жыл бұрын
Are You In Florida ???
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
Nah I’m in Salt Lake City utah 👍🏼
@willieking4306
@willieking4306 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't use soldering. It's not plumbing.
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
This Staybrite 8 is specifically engineered for hvac applications 👍🏼
@tinhnguyen-xx9pk
@tinhnguyen-xx9pk Жыл бұрын
What’s staybrite 8? Will be passed by inspector? I appreciate your response. Your video is what I have been looking for. You are amazing.
@williamfowler616
@williamfowler616 Жыл бұрын
quit being cheap, if you get some of that acid in the system, and you will, then it becomes a acid burn out later, job security i guess.
@ltcuaa
@ltcuaa Жыл бұрын
this trade is so easy don't EVER hire this guy! so easy, it blows my mind he ever charges people for his "work" performed....
@diyhvacguy
@diyhvacguy Жыл бұрын
I don’t, you didn’t know all my work is done voluntarily?
@ltcuaa
@ltcuaa 11 ай бұрын
not unless daddy is supporting you
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