Vietnam war was conscipted there was a draft and thats probably why Pile was there

Private Pyle represents "Mcnamaras morons" basically they lowered the standard so much mentally deficient people were being drafted left and right, they had an insanely high casualty rate.

In war as an American Soldier it doesn't matter what color you are...

Yeah, it's a really tough call because there are so many candidates, but saying Snowball got fired because he was black is probably the dumbest comment in the reaction.

Stupid comment for sure.

rob is dumb lmao don't treat what he says seriously

Yeah no that's where I stopped watching the reaction.

I went through basic in 2007 for the Army, and they would definitely put people in leadership positions to challenge/punish people. Being a leader in initial entry training sucks because it is just extra responsibility, and now you get screamed at when you fuck up, or any of your guys fucks up.

So he could fire him

@@jamesellis701 lmao

Dude has a luke warm IQ

Exactly. These idiots can't think beyond one variable.

They always look for any excuse to paint themselves as the victims 🙄

THANK you for sparing me from having to make that same simple point. The damn density just…😅

@@BrokenInBeauty It's only dense to you because you live in fairy tale land where blck people were treated equally as whyte people in the 1960s 😂

R Lee ermy wasn't supposed to act in the movie in a lead role as the drill instructor. He was originally meant to be a consultant since he's an actual marine drill instructor. But Kubrick find his talent great and have him to be drill instructor instead of that guy who was the helicopter gunner.

I met him In Hawaii in 1999. Nice guy. Bought me a rum and coke.

@@rdzed3505 lucky man.

that how in the 60's man what the drill instuctor has to put as much stress on you as they can. so you will you will try and handle war. break down buils up steve usn ret.

I never got the chance damm it. I did meet capt. dale dye

They kinda stupid give em a break

Accurate. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.@@yomamapwnz

They gotta talk to each other during the movie and voice their thoughts in order to make compelling content. Some information is going to missed. No need to be condescending.

@@carterd9761 it’s about their immediate jump to “its cause he’s black” also proven before when they see interactions with private snowball

@@yomamapwnz That’s not an illogical conclusion at all. Black Americans were proportionally more likely to be drafted than white soldiers. Furthermore, they were also more likely to be assigned to combat units, with 23% of combat unit soldiers being black while making up 11% of the total force in Vietnam. At the beginning of the Vietnam War, black soldiers were more likely to be assigned to more dangerous assignments. In 1965, nearly a quarter of all casualties were black. The possibility that the soldier was made a scout because he was black and seen as more expendable than the white soldiers shouldn’t be ignored considering the historical context. To be fair, this led to sweeping reforms of the military and the black casualty rate fell to a much more proportional 12.7% in 1967, and such disproportions in casualties never arose again in the US armed forces. Regardless, I don’t think racism should be so rapidly dismissed. “Here you are all equally worthless” is great line and reflects a more progressive attitude that was starting to take hold in the military, but it was far from the truth.

I also met the Gunny. As a Marine, he treated me as an equal and as a Brother. He was nowhere near the typical hollywood movie star. With the fame and adulation he got from in and out of the Marine Corps, it would have been easy to be arrogant, but the Gunny was the exact opposite.

These recruits were referred to as McNamara's Morons, he was Secretary of Defense at the time. McNamara made a lot blunders during his time, like doing away with the Navy's cracker jack uniform and it harder to store the new uniforms shirts ties and suit coats.

It seems were gonna maybe need to have this kind of program to happen again if WW3 happens with how much of the population is ineligible to join the military due to mental issues and what not

@@raymonddevera2796 I didn't want to use that term in my OP because it's extremely derogatory and it may have been censored by the KZfaq algorithm. Thank you for elaborating on this program. "McNamara's Morons" is what the soldiers and the general public called these soldiers. That term only added to the f'd up nature of "Program 100,000". McNamara was pretty awful. The dude thought he could win a war using computers and statistics while ignoring extremely crucial elements in war; including the morality of losing lives. His thought process was so bad there was a logical fallacy created from his incompetence.

Whoa, I hadn’t heard of this program prior to this comment. That's so damn sad.

Oddly enough the only "morons" where the people forcing a draft on the population to fight and die in a pointless war on the other side of the world.

And that’s just the way it is in the infantry a lot of racial jokes and fucking around 😂

@@gilbertfitchett6870 But Sparta forbids mercy to anyone who kills a medic if there is a bunch of 0311 Bravos about...

Marines love to fuck with each other. Trigger a response, because sometimes....somedays, we'd just feel dead inside. And Fighting and helping/healing each other was the only way we could feel things. You have to understand, MOST enlisted Marines are basically well-disciplined Children between the ages of 17-27. That is the Optimal age range for most junior Marines.

Civilians don't understand

Smart? He got lost and got three guys killed including himself.

Navigating on foot with nothing but a map and compass isn't as easy as you think, especially in cities.

@@dsumner1234 Yeah, that's why spoke up for 8 Ball. I liked his character. Sucks when people make mistakes under extreme stress & the costs are high. But, they do happen. I was never a good "map & compass guy" when I was in.

@@justmeeagainn Land Navigation is not easy.

@@dsumner1234 Yea, it's hard. We had to learn how to do it in ROTC and I almost got lost.

Kubrick was great at all those small details.

🪖 I’ve watched this hundreds of times and thought I covered and spotted every fine detail yet never caught onto that! Thanks for sharing, I thoroughly enjoy rewatches for little things like that 💚

And the talk from Hartman about the Marines being great riflemen and being part of assassinations as Poyle stares at Hartman, damn.

You got that backwards. He fires 9 shots instead of the mandated 10

In reality no one gets off the range with even one bullet, and you do not have a live weapon during basic training for any branch of service. This was very real for basic, I went through in June of 1976 with the Air Force!!

Sponge bob as well.

Apparently he was very friendly and kind when out of character

@@jamesbaggett7223 Yes, I heard he was, too. An army buddy of mine met him in real life.

The actor who played the door gunner in the helicopter had originally been cast as the drill instructor, but once Kubrik saw Ermey improvise the dialogue, he got pushed out of that role and was given the door gunner role.

Also a D.I. in the movie Boys in Company C

It is very hard, many Americans were drafted into t$rrorism, they didnt all want to go invade her country. But, she should do her job, as their officers weren't going to ship them home just because they cried.

@MrElis420 Vietnamese people fought the french colonization, when the French left in came the Americans, when Americans lost they had war with China.Judging by her age that girl had never seen a day of peace in her whole life.

She also recounts stabbing an American through the neck as he stuck his head through a ceiling trap the next day so she did.@@emilianosintarias7337

We didn't lose. The losses were staggering on.the Vietnamese side, fuck em

But only the assholes take part in it, that's why this is a shitty, unreal movie.

💯 this list!!!

i remember a video where you see american soldiers burn a little civilian village down while little children stood their and watched everything they own getting destroyed.

They were sent in to destroy the place, not aid “the south”, so it was just the logical consequence of the mission - nothing to do with substances. And the mission was a success

Yes!!!

​@@blackwolf4653There's a story of a US Army helicopter using their blades to keep American soldiers from continuing a massacre.

Exactly.

There are no "drill sgts" in USMC only Drill Instructors (DI). DS is an Army designation.

I served ten years in the US Navy with a lot of Marines ... aside from the 'hitting' (though there's ways around that), they said everything about the basic training was pretty accurate.

@@Laurie-xu6fo Correct.

Your father is right.

When my father received a 5 lb box of candy from a relative, a big no-no, he was forced to eat all of it. He was then punched in the stomach, forcing him to throw it up.

Same with my uncle. R.I.P. to your cousin.

My grandpa came home from Vietnam for the same reason

Realistic boot camp scenes. I was in marine boot camp at the same time this movie depicted

My father was a’Nam era Marine, he knows it by heart

Same, as myself, it's still n my head.... Vietnam Era . Semper Fi Devil Dogs!!

I went thru Boot camp the summer of '97 and I still know it as well

That's what my dad told me as we watched it together, right before I left for boot camp. 13 weeks later, I agreed with him. Semper Fi.

My dad was in the Marines from 1960-64. He said the same thing about it being a realistic portrayal.

Platoon 1066 Graduated 9/19/86 Semper Fi

I saw this when it first came out in a theater full of Marines. When Joker came out with "Is that you, John Wayne", you could hear the collective intake of air. We all knew it wouldn't end well... Even now, I'll watch the movie (or actual Boot Camp videos) and laugh the whole way through and my wife and kids don't get it. They think I've lost my mind. lol

Thank you for your service

Most movies about war are anti-war. It's not like they include all that horrific shit to make people think it's awesome.

How can it be antiwar if it doesn't make clear what was known by the time it was made : the mission was to destroy several countries, it made sense, and it succeeded. Instead the reactions are like “ war is hell “ as if it’s ww2 or something.

@@emilianosintarias7337 Nothing about war in this move is glorified, and everything bad is highlighted. Ergo, it's antiwar. I'm sorry if you can't fundamentally understand that; maybe movies are just not your thing.

@@Jeremy252 I agree most war movies are like that, but not all. There are many movies whose purpose is to make heroes out of everyone on screen. If you walked away from this movie, thinking anyone in it was a hero, then maybe you should give it a second watch.

Why did you bother to write that slop? Your non sequitur aside, it's completely normal in everything from personal psychology to political and historical narrative to erect a contrived, potentially forgivable fault and criticize that, so as to avoid admitting to and wresting with a very real fault. All you have to do is imagine the Germans won ww 2, to imagine the most rebellious war themed movies would criticize the botched, mad or meaningless attempts to help the Slavs, J*ws and Roma. They would thus be apologetics for that war machine. And Germany having won, certain criticism would be allowed even if dismissed, precisely because it would define the limits of criticism in a way that obscures how German war actually works.. Would such films be antiwar movies? In order to create an anti vietnam war movie, you would need to contradict the deflections that the class of people who directed the war employed after it became unpopular. You would not repeat them. Nowhere in Full Metal Jacket is the aim of the war made clear and criticized, and in fact it really isn't even a movie about the Vietnam war. It's a movie about personal cognitive dissonance and different approaches to disavowal for one's actions, so as to not go insane - and a Kafkaesque movie about the the irrationality of the state. But Vietnam was very rational, and it was a successful mission, not chaos.@@Tijuanabill

I knew what that scene was about without even skipping.

Unfortunately, you're talking to a group of people who have been taught that everything revolves around race.

^^^^^ Exactly

@@johnnywhite26 Yes because whyte people haven't been anti blck and reminded them how much they hate them every single day (including your comment) for centuries 😂😂😂. Just hand wave it all away Cletus. R@cism in Vietnam? Never heard of it. Nah no way. Oh and before you call me a victim, i'm not blck. I just open a book every now and then. You should try reading something other than the K KK scriptures at your rallies then maybe you'd finally come off kinda smart

I think at that point he loses it formally.

@MangoMann072 And Oliver Stone's "Born on the 4th of July" a true story and a very accurate depiction of how Vietnam veterans were treated back home.

apocalypse now still the best war movie for me

And Detective Robert Gorren in Law and Order Criminal Intent

And Edgar the bug alien in Men in Black

And Thor in Adventures In Babysitting.

What blew my mind was hearing Jim Nabors (Pyle’s actor) singing voice

@@jamesbaggett7223 Yeah. “Gomer Pyle” was a spinoff from the “Andy Griffith Show” and that’s where I first heard him sing. I thought it was a voice-over…was pretty amazed when I found out it was really him.

Yep. Be ready to kill or be killed. It is hell and most people were just trying to survive and get the hell outta there

no difference they're all corrupt and disgusting

Apocalypse Now Siege of Firebase Gloria The Boys in Company C Full Metal jacket and I forgetting one??

​​@@bbb462cid...beyond war movies, there was Saving Silverman, Man of the House, Frighteners (he basically plays Hartmann's ghost, having one badass moment where h fires TWO M60s simultaneously), Fletch Lives, and the Mail Call tv series.

@@ahhamartin Oh, I know. I was listing war films. His character in Frighteners isn't Hartmann though. Not only was he much less profane, the name was Hiles

"one for country, one for corps... Well I guess the corps don't get theirs" idk why but that line gives me boot camp flashbacks. You can't fake being a DI

Actually Joseph, it's called a "BLANKET PARTY"

@@nomoreprospecting well, he was a marine in the 50s. Maybe they called it something else. I'm simply relaying what he said.

It was illegal to hit a trainee in this era, and racist comments were also taboo.

@@davisworth5114 Taboo, but it still happened

Our MTI Military Training Instructor for the Air Force called us A** F***s every single day until we graduated!!!

Me love you long time, was in 2live crews song

​@@darkdaveyI'm surprised they didn't notice that, they must be first generation black folks

Why would they want to? lol Boot camp sucks.

22 per day

@@aaronpincus6095 Yup, I wear the TVP 22 a Day bracelet. Not cuz I'm a suicidal vet (I did serve in Iraq) but out of awareness for my Bros & Sisters who had it tougher than I did & came back harmed. I was one of the lucky ones.

@@user-kj5iu8bs1p Thanks for your service. I have one also. While I was never enlisted, I've been around vets my whole life. Dad, brothers and what's really interesting is that every single adult I made friends with after high school were all presently serving or veterans.

@@aaronpincus6095 those numbers need to go up WAY higher, for the peace and stability of the world.

6 million people, the majority civilians were killed by America’s “ war on t&rror” .The iraqi invasion was a crime but Bush is just walking around a free man.

No, You are wrong it was Marine Corps basic training!!! The US Army does not have Gunnery Sergeants!!

I mean, ultimately what's the difference?

That would also account for the Military Training Instructors in the Air Force, Drill Sergeants in the Army and Recruit Division Commanders for the Navy and Coast Guard!!

I never caught that. Damn.

I went through Air Force Basic Training in 1976, you did Not have ammunition or a live rifle in the squad bays, you were checked prior to leaving the live fire range and the range master was armed in case any knuckle hands decided to be stupid!!!

Glory (1989)

I agree, all men from 18 to 20 should be required to serve a 4 year enlistment of the military's choice!!! It will make a man out of you. Air Force 76 to 82!!!

@@GM8101PHX Thanx... the only thing, I think 4 years is too much. I did 2 and it seemed like a lifetime.

This wasn't bad!

He was simply comparing tactics, to what he knew, since he's never served. So find something else to cry about.

That is because that is a the narrative these days!! Time for those that while about it to grow up!!

I heard the marines only took volunteers though.

One theory is that Animal Mother IS Pyle and the "suicide" was only a nightmare that Joker had the last night on the island. The Blanket Party/Hartman killing/suicide is blue because it's a dream and the soundtrack, it represents the sound of someone in a deep sleep. After Joker went to report for Stars & Stripes, he fell out of touch with everyone he graduated with. Once he catches up to Cowboy and meets Animal Mother, it's Pyle, but he has seen so much in whatever amount of time has passed that he isn't recognizable as Pyle anymore. He's tough just as he was when we last saw him before that "last night on the island". It's probably not what Kubrick had in mind, but it certainly is an interesting theory. Someone even made a YT vid about it. With a Kubrick movie, it's often hard to tell. In The Shining, a theory says the hotel is really "hell". In Eyes Wide Shut, many theories about the mask from the orgy party.

@@joeyrogers7017 Interesting. Thanks for the input.

@@MadAnthonyI No problem.

@@joeyrogers7017 My grandson is graduating HS next week. He just signed up for the Marine Corps. The recruiter was at the house Wednesday night. So another generation takes their post.

@@MadAnthonyI Please tell him thanks for his service. Good luck from a total stranger. I hope everything turns out great.

They know bro they deadass just said that

Shit the 2 on the right look dark white

Because they know nothing about military humor and shit talk that we do when you been in the shit together

That’s your opinion, which carries no value to me in any way

@@lewiserwin2686 then why are responding to me

@@lewiserwin2686 the government doesn't care about anything but creating more robots to further it's white supremacist values....

Because every once in a while, I get bored, so I do my part for humanity in responding to the blind

@@lewiserwin2686 I hope you find peace some day.....