Bobby Rock Talks 1986 Vinnie Vincent Invasion Album, Dana Strum, Recording Guitars, Interview - 2021

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full in bloom

full in bloom

Күн бұрын

This is PART II of the full in bloom interview with drummer
Bobby Rock.
Bobby talks about Vinnie Vincent, Dana Strum, auditioning for the Vinnie Vincent Invasion, recording Vinnie's guitars for the band's 1986 self-titled debut album, Arbors, and more.
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@bobbyfikesmusicfun
@bobbyfikesmusicfun 3 жыл бұрын
I've known Bobby since I was in 8th grade. Totally awesome dude. He was playing in a band that played the whole side of Rush hemispheres and we open for him at this Scarborough HS talent show in Houston Texas. He never ever forgot me. I can still get backstage to one of his shows these days. I was involved in the making of his drum instructional video Metalmorphosis when I had an investor for my band and we had no songs so I contacted him in California and let him take that money because we had no songs at that time even! A great human being that deserved that money and he made it all back and now owns the whole thing himself.
@michellelane6501
@michellelane6501 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize he was from H town! Don't know how I missed that. Now I know.
@bobbyfikesmusicfun
@bobbyfikesmusicfun 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellelane6501 Blas Elias too. Same high school.
@michellelane6501
@michellelane6501 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyfikesmusicfun yeh I had read that Blas was from TX....Gonzales is what I had read. I assume the family moved to Houston at some point. I'm a TX native as well.
@bobbyfikesmusicfun
@bobbyfikesmusicfun 3 жыл бұрын
@@michellelane6501 we all were friends beginning around 8th grade. Bobby was a few years older than us. They went to Scarborough HS in Houston. I went to Eisenhower HS down the street.
@fullinbloom
@fullinbloom 3 жыл бұрын
Great story. Thank you for sharing it, Robert.
@tod3msn
@tod3msn 2 жыл бұрын
Vinnie's first solo record with Rob Fleishman was a masterpiece. I saw them on tour. Vinnie and the guys were super friendly. Signed stuff. Great guys. Second record for Vinnie without Rob was flat.
@miked9112
@miked9112 Жыл бұрын
On the 8th day God created Vinnie Vincent
@stevenbacakos
@stevenbacakos 3 ай бұрын
@@miked9112vinnie sucks
@MrNumber1gator
@MrNumber1gator 3 жыл бұрын
Cool im not a drummer but went to see Bobby Rock at a drum clinic and walked away thinking what a great guy . A guy you could have a beer with and watch a game hang out super cool..
@naturalbornscorpio8127
@naturalbornscorpio8127 3 жыл бұрын
Every member except Vinnie was & is a great guy.
@krashboombang
@krashboombang 3 жыл бұрын
Dana Strum, straight up team player and good guy! Bobby, thanks for the insight and much respect to you as well.
@Tumbleweed_Tx
@Tumbleweed_Tx 8 ай бұрын
Dana Strum made a name for himself by producing the late 70's/early 80's syndicated interview show Rockline
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 Ай бұрын
From what I've seen and heard many times,Dana Strum was the one who brought Randy Rhoads and Ozzy together! That alone makes him a legend IMO. Super talented,multi-faceted musician and studio guy.
@strivingx67
@strivingx67 3 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff here man! I was a huge KISS fan from the mid 70's through, say Crazy Nights. My first KISS show was in 1983 on the Creatures tour with VV (Irvine, CA). After that I went to VVI shows on the second album tour w/ Mark singing. I thought they were awesome live. Mark's vocals were incredible live. I've always had a place in my heart for Vinnie. After he left KISS I wrote him a letter in 1985. I received back a 4 page handwritten letter from him talking about his upcoming album (VVI), along with an Autographed 8x10. The fact he took time to do that meant a lot to me. I still have the letter and pic and original envelope (which he hand addressed). Regardless of his later life issues, I appreciate a lot of his music and him as a person.
@fullinbloom
@fullinbloom 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful story. Thanks for sharing it, Bruce. Such a cool thing for Vinnie to do. I would have loved to have seen the Creatures of the Night tour. I always dug that album.
@strivingx67
@strivingx67 3 жыл бұрын
@@fullinbloom Great Album for sure!
@daveeastman7218
@daveeastman7218 2 жыл бұрын
Bobby Rock is a right on guy who talks the talk and walks the walk 🚶‍♂️
@gipsyavenger9829
@gipsyavenger9829 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Love these "pull back the curtain" interviews. Reminds me of being a kid and waiting anxiously for metal to come onto the radio at like 1:00AM in the morning and being glued to the radio waiting for music and interviews from bands I was into. Keep up the great work.
@corvettebmw
@corvettebmw 3 жыл бұрын
I saw VV at a small club in 1988 a few weeks before they broke up, full set, great gig
@markusantonio4866
@markusantonio4866 2 жыл бұрын
Did they seem to get along? Was there any friction between them?
@charlieswitzer9931
@charlieswitzer9931 Жыл бұрын
Me too, Houston -- The Rock Zone
@ancestroscord2904
@ancestroscord2904 3 жыл бұрын
Another great interview. Reinforces the importance of always recording drums 1st!
@keithbox1684
@keithbox1684 3 жыл бұрын
I feel VV invasion would have been bigger if it would have happened a year or two earlier. That time of year is a great song.
@naturalbornscorpio8127
@naturalbornscorpio8127 3 жыл бұрын
If Vinnie was a team player they would've been more successful.
@scottydymond9187
@scottydymond9187 3 жыл бұрын
Killer back ups!!
@alexmayhew8989
@alexmayhew8989 3 жыл бұрын
It was NOT that good. He was NOT that good a guitarist. I saw it live. It was a jumbled mess
@TheRustedShackleford
@TheRustedShackleford 3 жыл бұрын
They would have been bigger if Vinnie wasn't the one making decisions.
@naturalbornscorpio8127
@naturalbornscorpio8127 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmayhew8989 Maybe a good guitarist but his guitar style didn't compliment or wasn't meant for KISS.
@ninevoltromeo
@ninevoltromeo 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Bobby was one of the best additions to the Nelson band. It's cool to hear about some of the other things he's done.
@pletcherscott
@pletcherscott 2 жыл бұрын
Bobby seems like a great dude- I have been tracking with a pre recorded click and scratch guitar and it makes the whole process so much easier. thanks for the great video-
@markusantonio4866
@markusantonio4866 2 жыл бұрын
He has some good drum instructional videos.
@johnmcminn9455
@johnmcminn9455 3 ай бұрын
Rock also played drums on Helmerich/Garsend which is an epic jazz fusion band of that era
@TheParris1
@TheParris1 2 жыл бұрын
Power is BlooM..knock it out the park everytime..thank you
@shoominati23
@shoominati23 2 жыл бұрын
Think of this, that album could have been the next KISS album if Vinnie had stayed in the band! Mindblowing hey
@zenzen7136
@zenzen7136 9 ай бұрын
No way kiss would let Vinnie play like his solo stuff. I heard he was really good live with kids but they'd never let his play shredding solos. That would take away too much attention from Paul and Gene.
@NTJ891
@NTJ891 3 жыл бұрын
I saw VV Invasion open for Alice Cooper, they were great
@brianfalarski6074
@brianfalarski6074 3 жыл бұрын
Me too,....Charleston s.c.!!!
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI 3 жыл бұрын
I saw them too on the Alice tour, only 3 songs! Animal, Boyz and...forget third. Might have been a time issue.
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI 3 жыл бұрын
@Craig oh wow, interesting story. Mark said from the stage something about losing their equipment and having to get sone new stuff and we were all like, where would they get pink Laney amps?😂🤙 Thanks for the insight on that, it was always a mystery to us.
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI 3 жыл бұрын
@Craig A 35 year mystery. Yeah hes always screwing people.
@dvg4104
@dvg4104 2 жыл бұрын
I saw them open for Alice Cooper, and they were just ok. About a year later I saw them at a club in New Orleans called Tipitina's. Best live set I've even seen from a band in a club.
@pewsterbaby
@pewsterbaby 2 жыл бұрын
Loving all the stuff that leaks years later. The geyser is still active, technically.
@dirkjewitt5037
@dirkjewitt5037 5 ай бұрын
Oh look, @ 14:47, Bobby Rock can be seen hanging out with one of his groupies!
@lundad
@lundad 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome storyteller. 🤟👍
@zombee38
@zombee38 3 жыл бұрын
Fun times !
@mikeralston777
@mikeralston777 2 жыл бұрын
Dana Strum also produced the criminally underrated Billy the Kid album (MCA 1985).
@danswon
@danswon 3 жыл бұрын
I love the two VVI albums, as crazy/ott as they are. I don't think I can listen to them sober though!
@vinniemoreno704
@vinniemoreno704 2 жыл бұрын
That first album is a metal masterpiece.
@aladams684
@aladams684 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot about the "no pedals or outboard gear, etc." claim on the album. What b.s. You can clearly hear chorus on his tone, whether added in the sub mix, or via a pedal, it's there. You can clearly hear synth on "No substitute". And the fact that they had Bobby play to a drum machine pretty much makes that statement a lie. The last time I checked, a drum machine would have been considered outboard gear. Still, I always enjoyed the VVI. It just reminds me of when I was new to guitar trying learn everything I could and listening to albums like this. The soundtrack to my preteen years.
@robertparker481
@robertparker481 2 жыл бұрын
Playing in sync to a drum machine may have been there way of making sure the timing didn't get off. This was before click tracks were commonly used
@c.i.dangelo4515
@c.i.dangelo4515 2 жыл бұрын
Bobby Rock is(and as long as I can remember had been) the consummate professional. Also, I'm fairly certain he's always been straight and clean. And also, he's obviously a great guy. I bet he's greats to fans that approach be him. Nice job man! Any chance on Martin Birch (wait. Did he pass away?) Or Nicko McBrain?
@DYNAMITEDORK
@DYNAMITEDORK 3 жыл бұрын
Damn!!! I can only imagine how amazing Vinnie sounded recording on volume 10!!!
@ellisonlowrimore7751
@ellisonlowrimore7751 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was 11
@mhsandifer
@mhsandifer 3 жыл бұрын
Fleischman did an incredible job on that album.
@diamondd2778
@diamondd2778 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed amazing
@ellisonlowrimore7751
@ellisonlowrimore7751 3 жыл бұрын
I feel much better than Mark Slaughter.
@markusantonio4866
@markusantonio4866 2 жыл бұрын
No Substitute pun intended, lol. My favorite on that album.
@dragonqueen6589
@dragonqueen6589 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. He’s the only one Vinnie actually liked. He (Vinnie) was really shitty towards Goran Edman too…. tricking the Swedish vocalist (who was 19 at the time) into coming to the states with hopes of seeing the sights of L.A. Only to keep him locked in the studio.
@GorditoCrunch343
@GorditoCrunch343 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonqueen6589 Fleischman wasn't gonna put with Vinnie's shit either (he was in the industry before Vinnie) and Vinnie knew it so he kept his distance. Goran was super talented as well. I actually like his vocals more than Robert or Mark and I wish he got to sing on the follow up album instead of Slaughter.
@jimilove7773
@jimilove7773 3 жыл бұрын
Vinnie should have done Warrior after Kiss and sang lead. PERIOD>
@myworstenemy680
@myworstenemy680 2 жыл бұрын
The photo @18:36 Fleishman looks like he was grabbed off the street and paid to stand in for a band member who couldn't make the photo shoot(laughing). It reminds me of the old Sesame Street game called, "Which one's not like the others". Was he in Tears for Fears?
@themadmattster9647
@themadmattster9647 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic drummer. Grind like blast beats on a glam metal album (Machine Gunn Eddie off of O.FR. By Nitro)
@ellisonlowrimore7751
@ellisonlowrimore7751 3 жыл бұрын
I do love the first album better than the second one due to it just being a total play as fast as you can solo album.
@donniekellerman5833
@donniekellerman5833 3 жыл бұрын
How are you supposed to listen the full interview? Can't find them here or the website??
@fullinbloom
@fullinbloom 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Donnie. There's a link to Part I in the description of this video. Part III is not out yet.
@HyperInflation2020
@HyperInflation2020 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. Mikey Davis lives in San Paolo Brazil.
@fullinbloom
@fullinbloom Жыл бұрын
Do you know how to reach him?
@fortagband8262
@fortagband8262 2 жыл бұрын
I still have an Arbor....lol
@joshuabowens9701
@joshuabowens9701 3 жыл бұрын
Is Bobby still playing with Lita Ford?
@fullinbloom
@fullinbloom 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. We talk some Lita in PART I kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jLyombiqxL68eYE.html
@tonymctony4551
@tonymctony4551 2 жыл бұрын
But the real question is ... did he tap it?
@corndog1868
@corndog1868 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Search here for (Rockcandy Live In Toronto 1988). Great drum solo and Phil Collen of Def Leppard joins the band for one song! Enjoy the show!!!!
@dansweet6793
@dansweet6793 2 жыл бұрын
Fleischmann should have stayed Invasion, I think there is a great chemistry with him and Vinnie and Invasion would have exploded to rival KISS.
@ferox965
@ferox965 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't have been for long. The time changed too much. Look at all the other bands who fell off when Nirvana came around (and I could never stand Nirvana). VVI was a product of its time. KISS had longevity.
@TheParris1
@TheParris1 2 жыл бұрын
Austin Tx. Vinnie Dana, Bobby, and Mark, show up at the Backroom' Austins' hardrock /metal Club sorry I just ballooned the year late 80 's. Mark S.walks in the backstage area where we had been sitting up interviews for along time for a local access cable show called Rockline TV. Mark followed by Dana Bobby and no Vinnie...introducing g me and host of Rockline My buddy Carlos.a smooth for in kinda guy says "hey where's Vinnie" Mark says something along the lines of telling us off the record that Vinnie is hard to work with...as we are all standing shooting the shit...Bobby more jn the back kinda warming up no hair out of place one of them says ...like (f )that guy he wairs a wig...and started to proceed about how they would have something else going.those guys really made it clear how they didn t like either him or playing with him..so here he comes we all sit down and Vinnie sitting down start looking in the circle remember when Vknnie shows up and lights go on.the TV talk starts and I wondered does he know we all thought he was not liked by his band... wondered how why he acted the way he did even infront of us.we didn t have a issue with him .he and the guys went out and I ll never forget hearing M. Slaughter sing blew me away giutar was hot great show
@scott6828
@scott6828 2 жыл бұрын
VV Invasion was basically the band Slaughter...right?
@dominikaksiazek7177
@dominikaksiazek7177 2 жыл бұрын
Slaughter was formed by Mark Slaughter and Dana Strum after they left VVI.
@fig1115
@fig1115 3 жыл бұрын
surprisingly intelligent and articulate .i know im being an asshole but given his appearance and the fact hes a drummer i just didnt expect it lol
@alexhicks5889
@alexhicks5889 3 жыл бұрын
You're not being an asshole, just being dumb, haha!
@fig1115
@fig1115 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexhicks5889 lol like you i can be both at the same time .
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 3 жыл бұрын
@@fig1115 Bobby has always been known as one of the smarter musicians from the 80’s. He stayed jacked as fuck through his entire tenure with Nelson. Solid drummer and not a bone head partier like many of the guys from the 80’s.
@roymartin500
@roymartin500 3 жыл бұрын
For the times, you'd figure cosmetic applications would've been a priority on the audition!😂 kidding.
@JustJim772
@JustJim772 2 жыл бұрын
i'm a big fan of Mark Slaughter as well as the band Slaughter VV Slamming MS isnt cool.
@chrisvaughn6381
@chrisvaughn6381 3 жыл бұрын
Vinnie forget about it Top of the Chops The Cream of the Crop Metal Jazz with a Zeppelin Feel Love his EddieVh RRhoadsJams in his live solo"s Epic Shread Great Vocals Dana amazing Sweet Shreads From Heaven Bobby Rockit incoming Boom unreal Hope
@MadnessMotorcycle
@MadnessMotorcycle 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the thumbnail of these gears. The perfect band name would have been the XX Chromosomes. Thanks a lot 1980's hair bands. You didn't completely ruin rock and roll but the suckage you started in the 80's was only capped by grunge in the 90's.
@patton303
@patton303 6 ай бұрын
Vinnie Vincent had a bad case of guitarrhea. I saw them open for Iron Maiden and the guy overplayed the whole time.
@OttoNomicus
@OttoNomicus 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, the drums on VVI are so simplistic it's ridiculous, could have used a machine, it's 99% just plod, plod. plod, plod. The bass is also pretty much nothing, barely even audible. Vinnie clearly wanted the album to be all guitar and vocals, nobody else getting any attention at all. The vocals were actually more irritating than enjoyable. Fleischer's voice is like nails on a chalkboard, and that's not just hyperbole, it really does remind me of actual fingernails scraping on a chalkboard, makes me wince. How that album made money is a mystery, it really is painful to listen to.
@randall37343
@randall37343 2 жыл бұрын
Baby Oh Why from the Warrior album is better than anything on the first Invasion record.
@MrEricPymm
@MrEricPymm 3 ай бұрын
Vinnie has a reputation for being extremely picky with his drummers, often favoring a machine over an actual drummer. I think he doesn't want any flashy, cool drumming to compete with his playing. Its really sad.
@otisdriftwood8469
@otisdriftwood8469 3 жыл бұрын
He had guitar diarrhea. Look how fast I can play through every second of every song.
@dvg4104
@dvg4104 2 жыл бұрын
And sloppy.
@tonymctony4551
@tonymctony4551 2 жыл бұрын
Fuk yeah !!
@theadorebundy4514
@theadorebundy4514 2 жыл бұрын
I seen Vinnie Vincent Invasion opening for iron maiden on somewhere in time tour. Worst live band i ever seen or heard. Sounded like a one speaker boom box turned up to ten. I'd rather watch justin bieber lip sync.
@pa2camp
@pa2camp 3 жыл бұрын
vinnie was a great player but terrible when he took the helms of his own band. Vinnie needs to be controlled and if so he shines. The invasion project sounds like a puke on guitar. Its uncomprehensible from a layman point of view. If your thing is a million notes a minute than this is a guitar player for you. He is brilliant yet playing is not all about shredding is also about knowing when not to play and let a song breathe. thats why I always prefer the British players to Americans, The Brits are very disciplined, controlled, clean, the really take you for a ride. The American players jump off a cliff and wave you bye bye as they are falling down.
@deansley174
@deansley174 2 жыл бұрын
"Uncomprehensible".🤔 hahahaha!!!! Mow-ron!
@christophervargas7422
@christophervargas7422 9 ай бұрын
Vin wasn't the best guitarist and was really amateur in his skill set.Wasnt an yngwie type where it was fast but precise and organized and articulate and mature not to mention. Vin was sloppy all over the place just horrible his only skill was that he was fast. But he wasn't the only fast guy out there even at the time. So for him to call anyone amateur is literally the pot calling the kettle black. Vin I hope you've grown up since then and idk about your heart but I hope it's fixed 🙏🤷
@teddylong2167
@teddylong2167 2 жыл бұрын
Why does anyone talk about Vinnie Vincent Invasion at all???? I don't even think they had one song that ever charted under 50.
@robgray4188
@robgray4188 10 ай бұрын
Invasion was a joke, terrible terrible vinny look at me show. Made an ass of himself, sadly he always does, at this point in 2023 no one can argue that. If he wasnt all about me me me, and his psychological issues he could have been awesome but vinny screwed vinny
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