This isn't some secret your friend gave you, the fanbase has known this for years.
@artxgx9245 Жыл бұрын
I was coming to write this comment; you beat me to it. It's also in the Mass Effect's Behind the Scenes Interactive/Digital Book.
@godlygamer911 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, this guy is just a lying clown
@njones52 Жыл бұрын
Shssh he has inside sources. Better be careful his dad probably works for Xbox too.
@lonesurvivor8828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to his friend.
@forgettable8300 Жыл бұрын
@@njones52 xD I'm dead
@thatoneantoid51 Жыл бұрын
"An bioware aquantance of mine" Bro we've known this for years
@lonesurvivor8828 Жыл бұрын
We've know this for years thanks to his friend.
@TheCursedCat1927 Жыл бұрын
@@lonesurvivor8828 We've known this for years, because the game's director literally said it in an interview years ago...
@lonesurvivor8828 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCursedCat1927 That's his friend.
@TheCursedCat1927 Жыл бұрын
@@lonesurvivor8828 And since he might as well be making it up, I don't care. As far as it gets, he has no way to confirm it.
@Very_Nice_and_Polite_Person Жыл бұрын
His uncle works for Bioware, that's how he knows
@johnbolan3158 Жыл бұрын
People has known for years, but you literally went "trust me bruh, my dad works at nintendo"
@iampsico Жыл бұрын
Bring this prize a hero!
@marciimeris503 Жыл бұрын
This is the bad thing of shorts. So many people post rando shit to say "look i knew things" and the algorithm will send us here eventually so op gets views.
@Jorge-lm4bg Жыл бұрын
If ME3 had another year to cook it would have been the game of the decade. Still surprised the product we got in the end was still amazing given all the shit they went through
@medical-cyanide1526 Жыл бұрын
Despite all the shit ME3 goes through I do appreciate it for making me appreciate the characters in games
@antiochus87 Жыл бұрын
There were amazing parts to it, but there were also major issues with the writing and storytelling. I'm not sure just another year would have been enough time to fix all that to live up to what it could and should have been.
@antiochus87 Жыл бұрын
@@Iamkrogan07 I know the original aim of the Reapers that was set up in Tali's recruitment in ME2 that was supposedly the original ending, and honestly, that wouldn't have been much of an improvement in my opinion.
@balzaak4803 Жыл бұрын
Yea, great game despite the trash ending
@summer7603 Жыл бұрын
The only fault it had was the ending 95% of the game was tight
@lonestar2495 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they were actually given time
@hammishhiggins153 Жыл бұрын
mass effect 3 could have been a masterpeice
@cjvaye99 Жыл бұрын
@@hammishhiggins153 I was going to say exactly that. it should have been a masterpiece. ME2 was so good. ME3 had the potential to be even better and one of the greatest games ever made. damn EA.
@hammishhiggins153 Жыл бұрын
@@cjvaye99 yeah thats what i think if ea had givin biowere another year then it could have been one of the greatest sci-fi games ever made
@TheGingiGamer Жыл бұрын
@@hammishhiggins153 It still is though.
@hammishhiggins153 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGingiGamer i certinly wouldnt call me3 a masterpeice sure its a good game but its by far the weakest out of the whole trilogy
@tut28Angel Жыл бұрын
EA has a habit of giving their people impossible deadlines.
@ArcangelZero7 Жыл бұрын
"Oh wow, you managed to ship! Shareholders are pleased. That's the new standard deadline now, and they want more content than ever before for this next one!"
@ChamberpotCharlie9 ай бұрын
EA has a habit of speedrunning development, releasing complete shit, spend years fixing it, and then have the nerve to charge you MORE and call it "DLC"
@kaydn6254 ай бұрын
@@ChamberpotCharliealways have a habit of cancelling then restarting projects or making companies restart the project while still giving deadlines
@VideoGameSophistry Жыл бұрын
The real reason was explained by Patrick Weekes in an interview I did with him. They knew for months it was gonna be a stock photo, they wanted to put resources elsewhere. Since you never actually see her face.
@tyr573 Жыл бұрын
Bro couldn't find the source so he said he had an anonymous friend 💀
@bwestacado9643 Жыл бұрын
Don't tell his wife 🤫
@Rannos22 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy your inside source told you the same thing that we found out like a few months after release
@BK-ob3lo Жыл бұрын
Should've used a more alien design. All that build up for just another human face.
@nnightkingj Жыл бұрын
the face isnt the only thing that makes aliens look alien, look at the rest of her body
@camillob9478 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@realdementsya Жыл бұрын
She was human-looking even before ME3 what the fuck are you talking about
@bluemoon1716 Жыл бұрын
Did you not watch the video?
@silverbloodborne9495 Жыл бұрын
Its kinda hard when you got like a few days before game release and no one can decide
@soralink411 Жыл бұрын
Mass effect 3 is already a fantastic game. Wish they could go back and finish up the ending and flesh out priority earth.
@stopefinaround Жыл бұрын
Tuchanka and Rannoch were the best planets in the game because they had side missions/downtime between each major quest. I wish all the other planets in-game had similar design like that
@Cloudstrife112233 Жыл бұрын
They should have done that for the Legendary edition.
@politicallyincorrect7864 Жыл бұрын
Apparently there are mods that do just that
@thatotherguy8138 Жыл бұрын
I wish the bloody Galaxy ACTUALLY came to war at the end, so all those bloody War Assets actually meant something. As for the ending, there's no saving that drek. One of the worst endings in Video Game history - only thing to do is to completely and utterly re-write it, but to do that, you probably have to re-write the entirety of ME3.
@channel45853 Жыл бұрын
@@thatotherguy8138 It isn't the worst ending in video game history. It's just the only bad ending that everyone talks about. It is mediocre at worse.
@joorlon1994 Жыл бұрын
"You might be skeptical" Well you're actually a liar so yes. Your friend didn't give you that information people have known about this for years.
@digimonfrontier20112 ай бұрын
My biggest problem is that everyone talks about not knowing what they look like, but you can't tell me, with the sci-fi internet access they had, there wouldn't be a photo or anything.
@RainRaiderX Жыл бұрын
Tbh tho, the legendary edition version of the Tali picture is Chefs kiss
@MrWhatdafuBOOM Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion(?): I really don't find the version in the legendary edition much of an improvement and I hate that people treat it like one. I mean, HAVE YOU SEEN THE CONCEPT ART, PEOPLE?
@spectralassassin6030 Жыл бұрын
I like it simply cause it makes more sense than the original one where Tali was out of her suit just for a picture.
@fucker6617 ай бұрын
Very unpopular
@KittysInu Жыл бұрын
dude a ton of people realized that it was a stock photo. its on mass effect iceberg lists, its been mentioned numerous times when people talk about changes in the Legendary edition. Hell, this was known before youtube shorts were a thing 🤣 but ok Mr "I know someone at bioware"
@FogHorn1911 Жыл бұрын
This is literally for children too young to play mass effect and are only getting to play it now that it was released with the remastered collection.
@KittysInu Жыл бұрын
@@FogHorn1911 then dude should be honest and just say everyone knew about this and bioware confirmed it. instead of the whole "i talked to someone on the inside about this great mystery" bs he gives i hate youtubers who push garbage to get views from kids
@csodapaci Жыл бұрын
The point is not that it's a stock photo but why it was used 🤦 pay attention before crying
@KittysInu Жыл бұрын
@@csodapaci still old news 🤦♂️ Maybe you should've payed attention lol. You're probably one of the children Ford was talking about 🤣
@DoneBrokeDatBack6 ай бұрын
Tali is proof you can fall in love with someone and never see their face until you've fallen head over heels. She's easily one of the best characters in the entire universe.
@NoExplosionsMcgee Жыл бұрын
I really want to see all of the designs that Bioware made for Tali's face before they settled on the photoshopped stock photo.
@VasKyah9 ай бұрын
Idk if it's exactly what you are looking for, but the mass effect art book has, multiple designs for the quarian face. It's been a minute since I pulled the book off the shelf though so I could be misremembering it may only have 1 face.
@ComfortsSpecter5 ай бұрын
@@VasKyahThanks
@MalumIngenio6 сағат бұрын
I know I'm pretty late, but if anyone's interested there's an old post on Matt Rhodes blogspot about concept art and a small part of it is about Tali's face :)
@nickay2654 Жыл бұрын
This is why executives SHOULD NOT be allowed to make art direction decisions. They need to stay in their lane and trust in their designers.
@wesfoster11785 ай бұрын
I'm not mad at the photoshopped picture. Was it lazy? Yes. But Tali still looks beautiful and she's definitely the best romance in the series.
@chucklee6858 Жыл бұрын
Extremely old news this was known probably a week after released on March 6,2012
@FullMotionVideos Жыл бұрын
Oh, amazing! I was really into the community back then and was unaware. This was told to me by an acquaintance who was close to production only a couple years ago. Still, spreading the word on fun stories like this is a good thing :)
@LeoInterVir Жыл бұрын
You must have not been on the official bioware forums. People complained about the image and lazy ending from day one. I'm sure it was on Reddit too.
@Red_Beard2798 Жыл бұрын
@@LeoInterVir - Never mind the forums and reddit, the lackluster ending to the biggest RPG franchise at the time was *the* talking point for months on the net back in the day. Tali's face was up there, but there were plenty of people (myself included) who hadn't romanced her, so it was as big a deal; I still remember the uproar though
@LightStreak567 Жыл бұрын
That last minute photoshop of Tali angered so many people, including me.
@PrinceSheogorath Жыл бұрын
In the legendary edition they added a true face to Tali
@zacherya.5016 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I’m not the only one that thinks Tali is Best girl of the game
@BerylLx Жыл бұрын
@CLB Ronin I think so too, with Liara at #2 and Garrus at #3. This is mostly down to the fact that they're the 3 squad mates that stay with you throughout the trilogy. Liara's available to both MShep and FemShep, and seems to be quite popular among both types of players. Garrus seems to be the most popular among FemShep players, but we all know majority of ME players are dudes.
@dasdas7752 Жыл бұрын
@CLB Ronin I feel like thats Liara, and Tali is #2
@carlossabogal29708 күн бұрын
It's not unpopular considering that Tali, Garrus, and Liara are the most popular romances across the three games.
@taekinuru2 Жыл бұрын
“best girl” I see we are ignoring Wrex. Sure he might not technically be a girl, but he is the cutest member of the Normandy teams. Bioware were just too cowardly to let the player romance him because the sheer passion he wields is enough to destroy worlds.
@channel45853 Жыл бұрын
They're scared because they know no one will be able to romance anyone besides Wrex if he becomes an option.
@wastrelperv8 ай бұрын
Unfathomably based.
@ArloTheDuck6 ай бұрын
It's the same way with Varric in Dragon Age
@airnicco3255 Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe in the original was if the Quarians looked EXACTLY like humans how was that never mentioned. I was in complete shock in 2012 when I saw her and no one EVER mentioned or any Quarioan questions how do we look so similar and how is this possible. I mean with the Asari you have the brainwashing theory and the different kinds and tentacle hair but the Quarians also have THE SAME HAIR, SKIN, AND FACE as humans. I was hoping that in the sequel they could have made some something out of it like they were so similar that humans and Quarinas started mixing and having mutant babies or shit like that.
@javierreyes9179 Жыл бұрын
In fact, they tell you, I don't remember where they are similar to humans, but their DNA is similar to Turian, meaning that their world, being human-like, has some of their features, but their DNA is different from ours, in the same way, the only thing in which they are The same as the human is in the face and in their reproductive organs beyond that they have nothing
@carlossabogal29708 күн бұрын
I don't think it matters because all that 'Tali should look more alien' and all that nonsense doesn't work because she is a ROMANTIC INTEREST. So, of course, she must be pretty. Otherwise, it just means punishing people for having a romantic relationship with her. Besides, Star Trek survived many years with aliens that barely differed from humans and nobody complained. And Mass Effect is still far from the level of popularity of Star Trek
@Nervete Жыл бұрын
That fanart near the end is horrifying. We don't need uncanny valley Jack in a space suit
@Zeitgeist2000 Жыл бұрын
@@pleasegetthis1right472wdym they havent ruined liara at all.
@RealCodreX Жыл бұрын
It acctually fits. Almost like Tali was a alien or some craz shit.
@xxfalconarasxx5659 Жыл бұрын
That "fanart" was actually what Tali was originally intended to look like. She was supposed to have pale skin, a round head, tattoo-like facial markings, no hair, and with large far apart eyes. This may be a hot take, but I kind of wish they stuck with her original concept or at least something else a little less human looking. Tali is an alien, and as such, she should look ALIEN. I don't like the idea of her just being some purple skinned human to play it safe with the horny teenagers that chose to romance her.
@Nervete Жыл бұрын
@@xxfalconarasxx5659 I think they knew what they were doing by making her more human-like. Even if she was middlingly average in terms of attractiveness it wouldn't matter, making her look strange and creepy would leave a huge block of mass effect's fans upset. Would it be more realistic? Sure, but realism doesn't always make the best stories. Hence why the reapers don't instantly wipe the floor with humanity and the gang come game three. That would be the most realistic answer, but it makes for a sucky story.
@xxfalconarasxx5659 Жыл бұрын
@@Nervete Doesn't necessarily have to be "creepy". Though I prefer the original concept over the current, I'm not suggesting that they actually stick with that. It was a preliminary design after all. I just think the final concept is a bit uninspired. They could have done something more. As for your criticisms. "Realism doesn't make the best stories". Yes, this is true, but what I'm talking about has neither to do with realism nor story. It's just art direction. What Quarians look like has no impact on the story of the game. Asking for interesting designs isn't necessarily asking for realism either. I just want something a little more creative. I don't care if Tali's design is realistic or not. A lot of Mass Effect's alien designs are unrealistic. I mean their obsession with giving so many of them three fingered hands, with only one thumb is pretty unrealistic for tool using races, but I'm not really complaining about that. And I'll meet you half way. Some of the more "alien" alien designs can look pretty bad too. For example, I dislike the design of the Angara in Mass Effect Andromeda. Lastly, if your concern is the devs upsetting the fans, then don't you think we should be advocating that they never do a face reveal? There is nothing wrong with preserving a little bit of ambiguity in a game.
@alexdurain3753 Жыл бұрын
Given what we’ve learned about Anthems production. Are we sure BioWare were on a tight deadline?
@matthewcromer5399 Жыл бұрын
Never blame the devs. EA and most other big companies are the really enemy
@dontknowdontknow9769 Жыл бұрын
Yes and no Dev are bad but also software house and directors sometimes are the same eh(basically gears 1 and bioshock 3 were saved by Rod) If we're talking about bioware well also they don't joke with their bullshit ideas even the plot
@niedude Жыл бұрын
I dunno man, Casey buying a stock photo and photoshopping it himself is fucking abhorrent. Especially when they already had commissioned art from actually talented artists! If he had the power to decide what Tali looked like and was able to create the "final" shot of her himself, he could have picked an official design from the art they'd commissioned already and use THAT instead. As much as I love hating on EA, this one is *also* on Hudson's shoulders. As are many of the other reasons that have since lead to the downfall of Bioware
@TheArklyte Жыл бұрын
Callisto Protocol was created by "free and creative artist" Dead Space 1 Remake was created by "soulless corporation that ruins everything"
@dontknowdontknow9769 Жыл бұрын
@@TheArklyte ok aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand? Callisto Protocol is also a souless game that try to be a DS 2.0 but worse and btw remake can go fuck itself since the game fucked up the faces
@SniperDizzyJohny Жыл бұрын
@@TheArklytehy you had to pick such and old game to defend the corporation? They publish a lot of games every year. (Because you know all the games sucks)
@FONIXFLAMES Жыл бұрын
I've never seen people saltier than in a discussion about tali's design human or alien
@Joeybsmooth Жыл бұрын
They had years on end to get what she looked like. This time it is not crunch. It is them just putting it off.
@antiochus87 Жыл бұрын
Just commented and said exactly the same. They should have had ideas for quarians in general since ME1; and they knew Tali was a love interest since ME2, so would need to show her face.
@Ariaelyne Жыл бұрын
@@antiochus87 There actually are six different possible head shapes for quarians in the Art of Mass Effect, ranging from an essentially human shape to a couple really alien looks. The legendary edition version of the photo seems to be based on one of these.
@someguy2347 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine Quarians ever looking close to Drell. They have always been and will always be human approximations and vice versa. When I saw that design, I didn't think of a quarian, I thought of D'Vorah from Mortal Kombat
@segevkrespi8609 Жыл бұрын
But both Drell and Quarians come from arid worlds, plus the Quarians are said to be similar to Turians in some regards, made me wish that the Quarians had a bit more alien look to them
@Just_a-guy Жыл бұрын
@@segevkrespi8609 the only similarity that I can remember is Dextro acid sequence and that's all
@segevkrespi8609 Жыл бұрын
@@Just_a-guy yeah you're right, that's it. But still, I kinda expected them not to look so human, we already have the asari in that slot
@MikefromTexas1 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't look anything like a Drell, what are you talking about??
@snowye9316 Жыл бұрын
@@Just_a-guy Grunt also say that Quarians are not so squishy as Humans, Salarians, and Asari. As all races wear armor so I was expecting some sort of nature armouring or scales.
@joshuareynolds23 Жыл бұрын
I loved the stick photo they used it was just alien enough to justify being used and, still human enough to start a family with the Normandy's best girl.
@dj11o9er Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we can not start family with the quarian waifu
@KorporalNoobs Жыл бұрын
@@dj11o9er **flashbacks to her suicide, after apparently having missed a story beat, that made me put down the game for 2 months**
@dj11o9er Жыл бұрын
@@KorporalNoobs Do not remind me of my 360 days. I only had ME3. I experimented and chose the geth. Pain.
@KorporalNoobs Жыл бұрын
@@dj11o9er Apparently that is easily avoided, and you get both, but hell do I know what I did wrong. "Erm Quarians: You kinda were not big fighter ever and I just upgraded the Geth, so maybe don't suicide char... ok then..." Followed by trauma.
@dj11o9er Жыл бұрын
@@KorporalNoobs Nonono. I only had ME3 only at the time. Never got the other two games. So I only had TWO choices. The Quarians or the Geth. No in between, as I didn't have Legion at all.
@Kradily Жыл бұрын
Shepard: Didn’t matter what she looked like well bang ok.
@Melammu0 Жыл бұрын
Will say as much as I loved the multiplayer. If they would’ve devoted all their resources to keep it single player it would’ve been better too
@potionseller8943 Жыл бұрын
I will say, both are pretty even if one was rushed, and I like that she has hair at least visible in the original. Not sure how I feel about a potentially bald tali 💀
@aurorasdrawingcorner Жыл бұрын
I see your concerns but I believe quarians still posess hair. They do have eyebrows so I am pretty sure they also have hair on their heads and even though it's only stockphoto, the original picture of Tali shows her with hair so I doubt they'd retcon again. Just likely they have it beneath some kind of head cover beneath the helmet.
@traceyjacobsen8544 Жыл бұрын
@Rimeau rub it for good luck Well, you can try that is...
@ChristianGonzalez-qu6fs Жыл бұрын
If you look it up some articles confirms quarians have hair
@inserisciunnome Жыл бұрын
@@ChristianGonzalez-qu6fs Who the hell wrote Those articles, Joker? He seemed to be interested in alien hair and Their biology
@StealthTheFoxz Жыл бұрын
@@inserisciunnome "I'm not telling you if my hair tentacles move!"
@kwisatzhaderach9591 Жыл бұрын
I like the more human looking Tali. The Quarians are like Battlestar Galactica, and them being more human makes them more sympathetic with "what if humans had to flee Earth, and what would happen to them?"
@asneakylawngnome5792 Жыл бұрын
Bro REALLY pulled a “My dad works for Nintendo” move 😂
@LPikeno Жыл бұрын
Had they been given just a couple months and some extra wads of cash, it would've been the best trilogy to ever grace the earth so far as 2023.
@hammfield1473 Жыл бұрын
Even with ME3 being rushed and having a controversial ending, it's still the greatest trilogy ever made. But it's sad to think about how much better it could have been.
@bryanbogard5359 Жыл бұрын
A couple of months and some extra wads of cash would have been allocated to 4 more multi-player maps and 10 new weapons. Online multi-player was heavily pushed by EA and still is to this day.
@iampsico Жыл бұрын
@@bryanbogard5359 Sad but true
@Yagasaki_no_Nagoya Жыл бұрын
That ain't tali, that's ventress
@user-en4eo1cc4t Жыл бұрын
She looks like Asajj ventress, fricken amazing design.
@No_Lucks_Given9 ай бұрын
I'm so glad they had no time. That concept art they showed would have been like romancing a Turian. No thank you.
@LothlorianOG Жыл бұрын
I mean we knew this like a week after the game came out. It was a huge talking point around the game.
@Severance88595 ай бұрын
This was unforgivable for them to do. This was pivotal in many people's experience of Mass Effect and they phoned it in, I don't want to hear any bs excuses.
@AntiSocialismo504 ай бұрын
No, the legendary one is better
@thepreserver811 Жыл бұрын
Wish they take inspiration from Miime ( Space Pirate Captain Harlock ) for Tali. She's a beauty.
@thebalderthor48843 ай бұрын
“A friend of mine at ID software leaked to me that the Doom Slayer likes to rip and tear!”
@Srksius2802 Жыл бұрын
Considering the way their limbs look similar to Turians and their amino acid specific physiology I was hoping Tali would look like a much smoother Garrus
@terrykingpin1452 Жыл бұрын
can't get smoother than Garrus. Mah boi got game.
@carlossabogal29708 күн бұрын
That doesn't make much sense. Salarians and Krogan are both levo and don't look like humans. What they can eat doesn’t define how they look
@tenjenk Жыл бұрын
They cut a year off the initial schedule deadline which itself was described as optimistic and was expected to be extended. Thanks to that we lost MULTIPLE major quest hubs and some current ones got cut down severely. The asari home sector was supposed to be an extensive quest hub leading to he homeworld scenario we did see. Instead of a DLC, Omega was supposed to be another major questhub with choices which could have lead to you breaking "omega's one rule" in literal and/or metaphorical ways, stationing yourself as a pirate king for the latter. There was supposed to be a quest chain to rescue the elcor with us in a mech to deal with their heavy gravity worlds (a function revived and cobbled together into that reaper origin dlc). Our fave prothean was supposed to be inbuilt into the game with missions of his own. There were plans for a salarian home system questhub which just... never left the drawing board. Earth was meant to be an extensive quest hub introducing Andersons second in command trying to find his sister and going from city to city on earth helping people and seeing your alien allied armies working together to help you depending on your choices. Additionally certain choices could have escalated a subplot involving your squad mates possibly being exposed to indoctrination if you fked up. The ending would have had wildly different concluding scenarios based on your choices.
@bwestacado9643 Жыл бұрын
Jesus...that sounds like they should have made most of that DLC to make up for what was cut. This is why everyone bemoaned them joining EA. We all knew they were gonna mess up Bioware. They forced a crappy Dragon Age 2 to come out, made a bare bones Mass Effect 2 and then cut over a year of development off Mass Effect 3. I don't care that EA is pretending to be for the fans these days, I'm never buying anything with their logo attached to it
@Furluge Жыл бұрын
Marauder Shields remembers
@Allaiya.7 ай бұрын
The original concept art version looks scary af imo
@theswedishdude1 Жыл бұрын
when i played the legendary edition and it finally got to the picture part i was freaking out "holy shit they actually made a new picture for her!"
@antiochus87 Жыл бұрын
Well both photos are terrible: the first for the reasons stated in the video, the second because you'd expect the photo to be without her helmet (though of course the fan art itself is beautiful, it's clearly not created to fill that role). Also, yes I will blame Casey Hudson, or Bioware in general. They had since ME1 to work out what the quarians looked like, and at least since ME2 they knew Tali was a love interest and would need to show her face. In visual storytelling terms, it's a travesty that there was just a bad photo, and not even a conversation with her without the helmet.
@CrumpledPaperHearts16 сағат бұрын
I reject the new picture, OG Tali is the only Tali.
@GabrielSchlaefer Жыл бұрын
“I’ve got secret, inside information that everybody already knows about” lmfao 😂
@PrimeMl5 ай бұрын
the stock image they used back in the day was perfect imo.
@AntiSocialismo504 ай бұрын
Thr new one is better
@Mecks0893 ай бұрын
@@AntiSocialismo50 Nah.
@ChrisWalkerTalker Жыл бұрын
Tali? You mean that chick that got pulverized in the Collectors' base vents? :-)
@terrykingpin1452 Жыл бұрын
first time I played she died jn the vents. No fking clue why. Should have sent Jacob or Miranda 😂
@ChrisWalkerTalker Жыл бұрын
@@terrykingpin1452 lmao true. But Miranda at least gets some development. I feel bad for Jacob's character cause he's so hot 😔
@carlossabogal29708 күн бұрын
@@ChrisWalkerTalker In my case, it was Miranda. I really disliked her in Mass Effect 2; she gets annoying with her daddy issues and defending Cerberus. That, and I sold Legion because I don't like the Geth in Mass Effect 3
@sjcgill Жыл бұрын
the timeline EA gave them was huge and agreed upon at the start in the contract. Bioware fudged development and kept asking for extensions. EA eventually had to say no as shareholders were getting fed up of Casey Hudson's excuses. I love throwing mud at EA but this one wasn't their fault.
@Rashaed Жыл бұрын
In this edition of ‘No Shit Sherlock’…
@lonewolffang Жыл бұрын
Either way, she's still best girl in my eyes. Tali is waifu for life son.
@sipioc Жыл бұрын
Honestly the picture didn’t bother me, even then. What did is the fact that even in the Legendary Edition, we STILL don’t see her face when she removes her mask on Raanoch. Come on guys!
@TheREALSimagination8 ай бұрын
Oh, no, I completely believe the stuck Tali's stock image face on there last second.
@Night-LordАй бұрын
It's actually really funny, I remember seeing that specific art years ago as a kid and thinking how I would've much rather seen that
@agama553811 ай бұрын
At least the new face is how I imagined her to be even with the photoshop. Imagination is a wonderful thing.
@Ctrooper20118 ай бұрын
Even knowing the original picture's origin, I never minded it. I also don't mind the new picture, but I wish our dialogue options could influence which picture showed up. Personally, I would have it influenced by decisions made in Tali & Legion's loyalty missions. Note that these scenarios assume the Quarians survive their war, regardless if the Geth do as well. In the former, the last decision (save for giving the evidence, of course) would be a determining factor. If you picked the above options on the right, you would guarantee Tali's photo result regardless of the end-choice in Legion's loyalty mission: if you select [Rally the Crowd], the photo would have the partially masked Tali since she still feels a massive bond with the Flotilla; if you denied finding evidence, then the photo would show Tali without the mask since she's exiled. Exonerating Tali herself, however, would put Tali's "facial identity" on the fence (until Legion's mission) since she experienced both Shepard's defense and a reminder of her service to the fleet. The end result of Legion's loyalty mission, should you exonerate Tali yourself, would show its effects from which side takes the most hits at first: if you destroy the Heretic Station, the Quarians have the biggest start and, even though she voted against it, Tali wouldn't feel the effects as greatly and her photo would have her half-masked; if you rewrite the Heretics, the Quarians feel the effects of their pre-emptive strike while the Geth benefit, fully proving Tali correct and guaranteeing her photo as fully unmasked. Of course, should you skip Legion's loyalty mission, Tali would be fully unmasked for the reason above.
@CitizenSnips89 Жыл бұрын
Tali was bae
@LuckyXinRu3 ай бұрын
I think the weirdest thing about this is that in ME 1 we can barely have anything for Tali, we can grow a friendship and throw in some hints but that's all, so no one actually thought about it... But since ME:2 the quarians got a whole new ideal, we meet their ship, we meet many of them, they noticed many players liked Tali so they made it possible to romance her, they saw thousands and thousands of fanart about how Tali could look like, and all the way to 3 where we actually visit their planet and make it possible for them to live on it, so between Mass Effect 1 to 3 they had 5 years to think about how she would look like inside the mask and they didn't... How hard was it?
@raylenc9760 Жыл бұрын
They did Matt Rhodes, original designer of Tali's face, so dirty.
@FireFlyMaxx Жыл бұрын
I can believe EA put the devs under lots of pressure. But the game was delayed by almost half a year from early Q4 2011 to late Q1 2012. There's an archived IGN podcast where Bioware leads did an interview, and I'm paraphrasing here. They said EA gave them the time to finish the game right, and they got so much time they were basically spinning tires before release. That podcast can be found, it's a little long, but I think Hudson really liked that pic, and wanted Tali to be seen as an exotic beauty. Hudson Found that stock photo and wanted her to be tali.
@SolidShepardАй бұрын
i'm convinced bro said he has a secret source on this just to farm engagement. because there is no way he could have possibly been serious about that. as far as the photoshop deal, it really never bothered me. they touched it up enough to not be a 1 for 1 of the original image. plus i like to imagine Tali has luscious locks underneath that helmet.
@Ekvixaysack8 ай бұрын
Took my like back after this dude tried saying his friend was an insider 💀
@thatotherguy8138 Жыл бұрын
Dude we've known about this for 10 years. 10 YEARS! Someone even found the stock photo before the ending was "fixed", and that was what, 5 months after the game was released?
@zalabit927 Жыл бұрын
Wish they kept the mistery, first time i saw her photo in ME3 i was like "that's it? No reptile or fish face? Just a purple human face?" Btw, Bioware acquaintance? This has been known for years🗿
@javierreyes9179 Жыл бұрын
Porque cara de pez si no vivia bajo el agua? Y porque cara de reptil si su mundo es parecido al humano
@carlossabogal29708 күн бұрын
@@javierreyes9179 Verdadero
@javierreyes91798 күн бұрын
@@carlossabogal2970 pues si ese man estaba loco o tiene un fetiche por los reptiles en el juego se dijo que su mundo es idéntico en su totalidad al humano
@javierreyes91798 күн бұрын
@@carlossabogal2970 solo que ellos el planeta era como su sistema inmunológico
@nemesisencounter2060 Жыл бұрын
This video is a " my father works at Nintendo or sony" moment lol
@antirevomag834 Жыл бұрын
everyone since it came out: this seems like a last second photoshop! This guy: believe it or not, i have a source inside bioware (who wasn't even there when me3 was being made since most that staff is gone now) who says this was a last minute photoshop! Dude's just the most amazing guy. did you guys also know his dad works for nintendo?
@TheArchitectCOD Жыл бұрын
Man thinks his friend is uncovering MASSIVE news lol
@ElectromagNickАй бұрын
"Trust me bro, my uncle works for SEGA!" This shit was known from launch. Within the week, someone tracked down the _exact_ stock photo, and devs had said for a while things got rushed. The ending was evidence enough of that. And I still hate the new Tali photo. It makes the quarians look too human. Mass Effect alien designs were always better than that. Asari look human enough, and they're a very specific exception.
@ArcangelZero7 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the final image was actually pretty good! But I imagine a species that lives their entire lives in enviro-suits and flotilla ship colonies would be....significantly paler. Like "VERY sensitive to solar rays" pale. I feel like even "rubber-forehead aliens" need to make you re-evaluate your definition of "beauty" instead of just presenting "Attractive earth-model, but she's got interesting eyes!" lol Let's be honest, EA execs probably had a "conventionally bangable" quota they were looking for...
@elpoiro6 ай бұрын
"I know a friend" Meanwhile people 2 days after the release : "Hey guys ! Tali's face is a google picture, i saw it, wait i show you" You're basically 10 years late bro.
@exposingproxystalkingorgan41648 ай бұрын
Deadline stress really suck! 😂
@dylanmonstrum1538 Жыл бұрын
No, it wasn't "literally the last second" It wasn't even "literally the last hour". It was figuratively the last second.
@thomasjones32063 ай бұрын
There is a Tali face mod
@FossilStudios3169 ай бұрын
I’m actually completely ok with the last minute photo shop.
@williamoldaker5348 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent change. If anything they should jokingly make a jab at it in future games.
@joshuagross3151 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's subjective. Subjectively, I prefer the original stock version to the new 3D art.
@Decimator694209 ай бұрын
His influence stopped Kai Leng, and he held the line
@akamontazysta8104 Жыл бұрын
That's the most cringey way to share trivia literally everyone knows about. "My friend" lmao
@yuhyuh7603 Жыл бұрын
I always imagined her as a purple smoke lady.
@TheEffectOfMass9 ай бұрын
I was like, this is a secret? But seriously, the time constraint they had was insane for ME3. To this day I wish they had not rushed it.
@joshuaweston6531Ай бұрын
I can forgive this, especially with the new look in the Legendary Edition. After all, the Mass Effect trilogy was nothing short of amazing! All the characters, planets, aliens, dialogue, plot lines...the list goes on. It's the kind of game that Star Trek could only hope to ever get!
@j.jbinks96692 ай бұрын
That first picture is VILE 😭
@bitwize Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they replaced it. That naff Tali image was one of the big complaints about ME3 when it dropped.
@malcolmthorne9779 Жыл бұрын
Leaving a huge plot point like this up to a last-minute decision left me frothing mad back when this came out. Tali was my sweetheart, and they did her dirty. I still stand by my old impression even though it's somewhat better now after the patching, DLC and remake. ME3 is one of the greatest games out there. Except for the last 20 minutes of it and some minutes sprinkled in leading up to the endgame phase which is utter garbage and ruins the experience almost completely. I'm somewhat miffed they didn't include the ME3 multiplayer in the remake but I can see why they didn't.
@bwestacado9643 Жыл бұрын
The only character I named one of my cats after. RIP Tali, you were a good kitty
@Notlordstark Жыл бұрын
Bro we’ve known this for years. “Inside source that wants to stay anonymous” you just looked at Reddit
@AimlessSavant2 ай бұрын
The more alien design shown in the video is frankly the best.
@le96g2 ай бұрын
I dont care what people say, the white hairless one will always be the canon one for me.
@keith_558410 ай бұрын
I thought he did fine. The only possible mistake was letting the magic out by telling the story.
@garryuyahoo6 ай бұрын
Javik days that Quarians were considered attractive, even in his cycle.
@JanikAshe Жыл бұрын
Your source is one who have read from freaking wiki, I knew this since I was 12.
@AG3n3ricHumanАй бұрын
No one cares what Tali looks like. It's her personality that makes her attractive, just like in real life.
@lazyrshmuk10 ай бұрын
I think people are missing the point of this. I think they're just shedding light on the fact that they WERE working on models and the picture we got was literally a last minute decision, not necessarily a cop-out. Just extra clarification on the story.