Thanks a lot!

I am glad that you like it ;-)

WHAT?? No. You just have to type fast ;-)

Thank you very much. There is enough work behind it ;-)

@@FraensEngineering it shows!

Thank you very much. I am working on a website right now. This will go online in the next few weeks. There I will share more information about my projects.

@@FraensEngineering if you need help with website , i m web developer

I don't have much experience with website building yet. I have been reading up on the subject for some time. I've been building a WordPress site for a few days now. I must say it's going pretty well and it's fun. If I run into a problem I come back to your offer ;-)

Don't say that. Otherwise the tobacco industry will be at my doorstep ;-)

Solltest du eine bauen, gib mir Bescheid. Es würde mich sehr interessieren.

Hi, unfortunately I can not build you a machine. Here are very many hours of work in it. If you have a 3d printer and some tools, you can build one yourself.

This is a very good idea. You would have to get the cigarette paper out of the package and feed it to some kind of rotary unit. I'm thinking a little bit about whether that could work. Do you know of such a machine? Do you have a link?

me 2, and i learned alot

Hi, schreib mir eine E-Mail dann schauen wir was wir machen können: fraensengineering@gmx.at

Hi, unfortunately in my home country it is not allowed to publish the files. The machine is a prototype. Do you have the possibility to make the bearings (lathe)? You would have to install stronger motors. There are some more modifications to be made.

@@FraensEngineering unfortunately I don't have a lathe but I'll find a solution

@@FraensEngineering actually I already have a semi automatic machine and am just looking for the parts to put the sleeves onto the machine. Would you be able to upload those parts?

Das kann ich dir leider nicht sagen. Die meisten Teile hatte ich zuhause.

Hi, leider ist es verboten solche Maschinen in Deutschland zu verkaufen. Ich denke es wäre nicht gut die Dateien zu veröffentlichen. Auf Hackaday gibt es darüber eine Diskussion (hackaday.com/2022/11/20/see-the-forbidden-cigarette-machine-in-action/). Liebe Grüße aus Österreich ;-)

Hi, if the motor is strong enough you don't need to pay attention to anything special. However, you should then also operate it with 6V. But can it provide enough power?

magazine_sensor on PIN A5

The motors of my machine are too weak. That was one of my first findings. This led to the design with the levers for the press. I bought a Top-O-Matik tamping machine to measure the dimensions. Tobacco is a very difficult material. You need a lot of force to press it and push it into the sleeve.

Yes, I thought so too ;-)

I don't quite understand what you mean by joint cones.

Not straight cigarette, but for example Raw cones

Unfortunately, I don't understand what you mean.

Hello, unfortunately I cannot offer a kit. I only develop, design and build the prototypes. I make these available to the public if someone wants to build it themselves.

​@FraensEngineering would you help me find files and code. I am new to raspberry pi but my brother is not and will help me. This would really save me much time as I roll for 2 people. Thank you and beautiful design!

it hits something but I don't understand why

In the tobacco magazine there is a vertical acrylic plate. This is raised and lowered with this magnetic motor. This pushes the tobacco into the press.

I have not made any drawings at the moment. Which joints do you mean?

@@FraensEngineering I was thinking that you may have used Fusing 360. In that software you can add motion which is referred to as joints. If used properly each part can be made and assembled in the virtual world and simulated. This can help you catch errors as well as not have to mentally visualize the whole machine. There is a hobbyist version that is free if your interested in that.

I created the 3D model completely, of course. So with joints and all the rest.

@@FraensEngineering I'm figuring out joints, I know they are super powerful and useful.

Hello, unfortunately in my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. To publish the files is not so good for me. You can read a discussion about it here: hackaday.com/2022/11/20/see-the-forbidden-cigarette-machine-in-action/

Unfortunately, in my home country it is not allowed to publish these files for tax reasons.

I want to use this project by making some metal components like nema 34 stepper motor and press area. what would you recommend if it works the way you did it?

I didn't understand which components you soldered together while drawing the circuit at 5.54

You would have to see if the motorshield can supply the current for such large motors. Otherwise you would have to use external motor drivers.

The inductive sensors require 12V. At the black cable 5V are fed in via a voltage divider. These then switch through to GND. Therefore you need a small circuit to connect them.

I would recommend that you build the press unit first. On Thingiverse, only the 3D models of the press unit are currently uploaded. The sleeve magazine is not yet available for download. I would also recommend you to check this page: www.printables.com/de/model/311422-fully-automatic-3d-printed-cigarette-stuffing-mach Thingiverse is not a good site. This is very poorly maintained by Makerbot.

Thanks a lot

Hello, I know that with the dry tobacco from cigarette rolling. The tobacco in the video I have always let through the machine. This has dried him and chopped into small pieces. If I had always taken fresh tobacco would have been very expensive ;-) But you're right. The tobacco fresh from the can has worked best.

Hi, I don't have the files to download. In the video you can see a part of the code.

​@@FraensEngineering Too bad, I thought you could help me

Hello, unfortunately in my country you are not allowed to publish the files from tax law. One could produce large quantities of cigarettes. That's not something people like to see. Therefore the files are not intended for download. Unfortunately, I only found out about it after uploading the video.

@@FraensEngineering can you send me the files on a other way like google drive or something else ?

Hello, the machine is a prototype. I would only be interested in a feasibility study. There are still some things that need to be improved. An identical replica would not work well. Can you do 3D modeling? If yes, which program? More powerful motors would have to be installed. The motorshield will not work anymore. You would have to build external motor drivers. You could use an Arduino Mega and use the Motorshield for the servo. Of course you would have to adapt the program code. Can you program an Arduino? For the bearings you need a lathe. Do you have one? You would need to put some development work into it. Do you have the skills to do that? If not, building doesn't really make sense.

Unfortunately I have not found a suitable Allen key :-) I never do it again. Promised ;-)

Good idea ;-)

​@@FraensEngineeringi want a machine that could make a finish product. No more Hollow tube making but direct rolling with Tobacco & filter.

cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine The machine is a prototype and not plug and play

Hi, schreib mir auf - FraensEngeneering@gmx.at

Ist die email angekommen ?

cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine

cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine

Hello, unfortunately I am not allowed to publish the files in my country. Sorry.

@@FraensEngineering Hello, I would like to build it in Hungary, just for my own use, file sharing? g drive?

@@FraensEngineering Hello, perhaps a private e-mail?

perhaps dxf?

The Arduino code is included in the download files.

Thank you man

Hi, if you are from Germany I am not allowed to share the files. Write me an email.

I am in the USA what is your EMail?

FraensEngineering@gmx.at

Have unfortunately misplaced my Allen key ;-)

Hello, the machine is sold with all drawings and parts that need to be built.

Hello, unfortunately I am not allowed to publish the files in my country. Sorry.

Can you share contact whatsapp, for consultation

Hi, I had this engine at home. Unfortunately I do not have a link to this one. But it should work with this one too: Gear motor: amzn.to/43Sw0uT

@@FraensEngineering Will the fitting hole in the project have to be changed?

I have not tested it. But according to the dimensions it should fit.

5.57 dk

where to solder the wires under the plate

are the sensors no or nc

Hi, these are the inductive sensors: amzn.to/3WMzDPV In this forum is described how these are wired: forum.arduino.cc/t/induktiver-naherungs-schalter-fur-doffe/390592/14 The circuit diagram on the left in 6.06 must be soldered for each sensor. The Arduino gets a LOW signal when the sensor switches.

@@FraensEngineering What kind of power supply should I buy according to the amperage drawn by the motors? how is this calculated

Friends wrote that there are missing files, how can I get them?

@@selimergun5711 he will publish them when ready

@@MrMorgalis are you the owner of this channel

Are you building the machine from metal or 3d printed?

@@FraensEngineering First of all, I want to make plastic and get to know the process.

Hi, of course I used a motor with reduction gear. A lot of power is generated at the "0 point" via the toggle lever design. That is why I can operate the machine with a relatively weak motor.

Very cool ;-)

Smoking is a bad addiction... ;-(

Hello, unfortunately there can not download the models. In my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. I think it is not good to publish the parts.

@@FraensEngineering damn because I wanted to do this 1 to 1

I also find this very annoying. But 50000€ fine is not worth it to me. I don't want to take any risks.

@@FraensEngineering But sharing code and stl files is not forbidden

The .stl files are not available for download. You can't do anything with the code alone.

Yes, you are right. Maybe I'll be able to get over myself at some point.

The tobacco already has a good density. The problem is rather the weak engine for the press. The pre-stuffing is done by the vertical acrylic with the electric cylinder.

@@FraensEngineering So would increasing the engines work? Or would it blow out the paper? Has this been tried? 🤔

The engines should be stronger. Then you could press more, and pushing them in would be easier.

@@FraensEngineering First, let me say that your design is an inspiration. Really great work. Additional Considerations: The humidity of the tobacco is critical to both the loading and the tendency for the tobacco to fall out. About 60%-65% relative humidity is the ideal range. Above 65% and the tobacco tends to become sticky, clumping together and creating unnecessary drag on the injector walls, loading tube and the paper. Reversible by reducing the humidity. Indications are: tube is pushed away early. Space close to the filter left unfilled. Tight spots in the m8ddle of the loaded paper. Below 60% the tobacco begins to 'dust' and break down into smaller particles that don't interlock and compress into the tube. This condition isn't reversible but can be mitigated by increasing the humidity. Once the tobacco breaks down though it will never return to a condition that will load or pack properly. The most ideal leaf cut is "thread cut." It has the surface area and compressability to provide both, uniform loading (same density throughout the tube) and good stability with the tobacco staying entangled with itself and not falling out. I use a heavily modified Powermatic II, made by Zico. It has a robust loading system, strong motor a very good compression/cutting blade and well engineered spoon loader geometry. What it lacks and what its subsequent design upgrade doesn't get right is the tube positioning system which you seem to have sorted out very nicely. I've added a large 3D printed hopper (holds tobacco for 5 packs) and a humidity control/display system that keeps the tobacco in the ideal range for spoon loading machines. Your tube alignment mechanism solves most of the remaining automation issues. There is also a lesser issue with getting even compression of the tobacco as it is compressed into the loading chamber, which I think can be addressed with a rotating silicone blade or brush. What remains unaddressed by either design appears to be a simple vibrator/shaker box and a trimmer to finish them neatly. Thank you for sharing your brilliant design solutions. I hope my input has helped you in your efforts in some small way.

How much want to sell

cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine

Hi, where was that mentioned?

Hello, I would love to sell the machine. However, in my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. I need to find out how it would be if I sell the 3D files.

You can how long will you sell me your 3D file and how much is the price of your file, can you give me your contact number?

I have added my email in my channel description.

3D models are on Thingiverse. Arduino code is currently only visible in the video. Maybe I can find a solution to share it.

@@FraensEngineering you can copy and paste the code here

You put a lot of effort and the workmanship is also very good.

I think you mean filters that are smaller in diameter or? It would have to be the sleeve magazine, the plug-on drum, the plug-on tube, the press, the tamping slide.... Actually the machine is then a new construction.

@@FraensEngineering I did not understand what you said

@@FraensEngineering It looks like there are parts missing in the file?

@@FraensEngineering Fraens best project 👍👍👍💯💯💯. My Friend video 08:55 - 09:14 Paper rulet mechanism STL please 🙏🙏🙏

cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine

Hello, unfortunately in Austria and Germany you are not allowed to sell or publish such machines. I would get problems there.

Unfortunately, it is forbidden to publish the files in my country.

@@FraensEngineering Not even by Email? 🙄

The machine is a prototype. Some things would still have to be improved.

@@FraensEngineering I understand that . I'm talking about the sleeve assembly and the drum. That saves me time. Hence the STL files.

I can upload the drum. I think that should be fine. I will do that soon.

Hi, the machine is a prototype to try if it is possible with 3d printed parts. The tobacco is very fine as I have used it over and over again. The machine is certainly not perfect. My biggest problem was the high forces needed to press it. That's why the solution with the threaded spindle came up. As good as store-bought cigarettes they do not burn. But with some optimization and stronger engines would certainly still improve a lot.

@@FraensEngineering Is the compression really that big a problem? A good cigarette is never packed really hard. When rolling the cigarette in between your fingers it should be soft to the touch, enough to deform it a little. If you squeeze it between your fingers and it’s almost like a rock and you can’t deform the surface without considerable effort that is a cigarette that will make the smoker angry. The perfect consistency should be where you can squeeze the outer circumference a third of the radius of the cigarette before you meet considerable resistance. Ofcourse the ultimate test is actually smoking it as this will reveal all the characteristics more clearly, but I do not know of you smoke or not. I’ve been experimenting with a design that uses an Archimedes screw to pack each cigarette to a perfect consistency.

That you need such a large force, I was also a little surprised at first. I then studied a lot of videos and pictures on the Internet. There are systems with pneumatic cylinders and those with geared motors. A small Festo DSBC-32 pneumatic cylinder already has a force of 483N. However, it feels like the professional machines have something bigger. Machines with geared motors usually have a very large gearbox. I also think that these motors run with 24V. In my experiments, it turned out that I achieve these forces only by means of a "knee lever construction". Professional machines also often work this way. I then bought a Top-O-Matic to look at the system. This also works according to this principle. It is also very helpful if the "toggle lever" moves slightly above the dead center. This compresses the tobacco a little more and relaxes it again a little. A big problem was also that the tobacco between the filler opening and press jammed. So the transition from tobacco magazine in the press. If tobacco pieces jam here, it is very difficult to push the tobacco out of the press. It then clogs very quickly. Here it is important that you have enough force to push it into the sleeve. It is somewhat difficult to explain.

Hello, the machine is a prototype. I would only be interested in a feasibility study. There are still some things that need to be improved. An identical replica would not work well. Can you do 3D modeling? If yes, which program? More powerful motors would have to be installed. The motorshield will not work anymore. You would have to build external motor drivers. You could use an Arduino Mega and use the Motorshield for the servo. Of course you would have to adapt the program code. Can you program an Arduino? For the bearings you need a lathe. Do you have one? You would need to put some development work into it. Do you have the skills to do that? If not, building doesn't really make sense.

@@FraensEngineering yes I use SketchUp and fusion 360. I know how to program Arduino and yes I have a lathe. Actually just got it a few days ago. I definitely have skills and I am really good at improving an idea. I am definitely willing to start working on it ASAP and depending on you after it is up and running I can release the files to you or let them run wild on the net. Up to you as long as I can keep my cigs rolling and smoking while I make more stuff to benefit us poor folks 😁 lol

You can email me: FraensEngineering@gmx.at

Where are you from? From Russia? Is that why you have no opportunity?

@@FraensEngineering I am from Serbia.

Unfortunately I can't give out the files.

Hello, at the moment I am not planning to build a second version. However, I would like to make some improvements. You can download the current version here: cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine

Would you have any specific suggestions as well?

I think nobody realy cares Its like playing lotto u know u wont realy win

Who cares there's something else if its not because of smoking

Life ends with death, better prepare. 👍🏻

😂😂😂

Can u name one thing in this world that wont kill you? You needa grow up if your still afraid of dying

I hope you like the machine anyway ;-)

cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-stuffing-machine

So gesehen hast du recht :-)

@@FraensEngineering sorry für den "Trottel", war scherzhaft gemeint.

Hi, check out the Thingiverse description. Here I have written the reason. Sorry. I still have to deal with this issue.

Hi, certainly I answer you ;-) I have to revise these models first. Currently, only the press is downloadable on Thingiverse.

@@FraensEngineering thanks friends 👍😀. looking forward to loading the paper roulette files🙏