I am a postie who is striking, and my employer claims we must modernise, yet they cannot even change light bulbs in our office to energy saving ones to save money, which I worked out in my office would calculate to a 4% increase in the wages of 120 people through energy savings, and a payback period of just 4 months. Its criminal.

Within the last few years Swansea Council built the 1st new social housing in decades due to rule changes that allowed them to do so. The housing was built to Passive Haus standards and DIDN'T include gas central heating but did include rooftop solar, triple glazing as you would expect. Residents remain delighted at the low running costs of their draft free, well insulated homes. Swansea Council has plans for more of the same.

I love this. As a massive fan of Red Dwarf, all those years ago, I would never have seen this as your finest role Rob, but it is! Like you, I had never sat in an electric car until "forced in to it" - it was the "driver shortage" that led to fuel shortages as we came out of lockdown in October 2021, that left me feeling stranded and unable to go anywhere except on foot. I had 2 fossil cars on the drive, both of which had so little fuel in them that I couldn't risk driving to a petrol station and risk finding that they still didn't have any fuel. I was lucky enough to be able to walk 400 yds and test drive a used i3 from the garage on the corner. Instantly sold on it. Everything else just followed immediately from that - panels, battery and then a 2nd EV. I know I am super privileged to be able to afford to do this, but I wonder how many others could take similar steps if they think about what they will save in the short, medium, long term......I haven't bought fossil fuel for a year, have spent no more than if I'd just changed my car for another used car, spent 10 grand on a few panels and a battery and already saved 3 grand on electricity and not buying fuel, all in 11 months....

Rob's "advert for My Energy..." was one of the most electable speeches I've ever heard! 👏

I love it when a presenter actually speaks his mind. You nailed the important facts in an entertaining way but you made the point very clearly and forcefully. We all need to call this government out for their failings over the last 12 years.

Another great rant to start the show!

I dont watch this, but i defintely listen to this show everytime. Leave it running on another tab and carry on working meanwhile getting all this juicy info. Thank you Sir

Rant starting at 05:52 -> 09:10. Absolutely brilliant and perfect. Thank you Bobby you LEGEND!! The incompetence to not do be doing this wholesale in 2022 boggles the mind. It almost makes you think they are trying to put it off as long as possible to help their friends... IT IS STUPID! 👍🏻

Loved this episode, really good to listen to these 'Two Old Gits', with some very good topics and insights. Keep up the great work.

R0bert, just keep doing what you are doing, we old fools need to keep together.

The expression Roger is looking for "Don't let perfection be the enemy of good". And his point is well taken.

I’ve already listened to the Podcast and couldn’t find the page where you record ‘Likes’. I had the pleasure of having a video chat with Roger last year when I was trying to find a way to change the industry I work in and I found him to be knowledgeable, informative, experienced and enthusiastic, but most of all, he is so easy to talk to, it was like talking to an old friend. This was a great episode. Keep em coming. If you can get onto mainstream TV at peak time, I’m sure you can get a more positive message out to more people. Fingers crossed for you 🤞🏾

Another enjoyable and informative discussion - thank you! 😊

love your chats with roger.. more please..

"Inform, Entertain and Educate" SO needed on Mainstream TV - Go Robert !!

And now having finished the episode - a very interesting and engaging conversation. Thank you both.

Robert, thank you for what you do.

I always enjoy these podcasts, but this is one of the best yet. Keep it up, Rob.

Love it !!!

Thank you for the food for thought please keep it up.

I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.

Well said both of you. Peace is the only logical way forwards.

I really enjoyed this conversation. Thx

Halogens should be give boot just like the old 100 w light bulbs.

one of the best episodes ever, and i like them all. more roger on a regular basis.

I have loved every episode. Keep'em coming ! Thank you. I hope we in America keep waking up !!

Absolutely agree with the comment about Arrival and their letting the perfect get in the way of the good! I’m invested in the company and it’s SO frustrating watching them refine and refine and refine and not get a product out the door. They also had all these videos showing their self driving tech. Forget the self driving for now. It’s a HUGE challenge to undertake when you aren’t even selling any product yet. They need to focus their resources and ignore anything but getting the van in production and out the door!

'Currupt' ...... just be sure of your words. Politicians are a different breed and history tells you that - no matter what party is in power.

Thank you.

Glad you mentioned Aptera. It is truly innovative. High efficiency EV design is the next evolution for EVs. Longer range on smaller battery packs is essential to produce more affordable EVs.

Is it wrong that I love your rants😮😊

God bless you. It is a tremendous job you guys are doing. And better all the time. Thank you from Virginia

I didn't want u guys to shut up, absolutely fascinating :-) Many thanks Rob and team for another brilliant episode. Keep them coming (maybe on the tele?!) ;-)

Roger is correct - you must pivot to prime time tv using your well researched content and extensive contacts

Totally agree with Rodger about taking Fully Charged mainstream on TV or one of the major streaming services. 😎

Robert, Roger is my favourite of all your brilliant guests on this Podcast which I always watch on KZfaq, often in two or three sittings. Sadly I'm an old codger too and I had loads to say when I started and now I've forgotten everything! First, just quickly, Roger I had the same troubles and the same narrow escape through incompetence as you in my middle teens. It scars you for life but in a weirdly good way once you're through the other side. Joking aside, I know what it means to have gone through that. This one's 'lastly' because I can't remember all the stuff in between... Robert, Fully Charged was *the* first channel I watched and subbed to on KZfaq and it helped me work out that I needed an e-bike in lockdown. Having been sharing some of your vids on Facebook, the only platform I've fathomed out how to work (!) I've been wishing and hoping for some time that you'd get your/our/the message out on telly. Roger's right now is the time, TV companies seem open to electrification of transport, ie the fact that it's happening but they seem to get it twisted (wires crossed!) and just don't seem to understand. I'm disabled and watch This Morning on ITV and they have tried to talk about ev's, one of their presenters brought hers in but the message kind of went wrong as they ended up putting too much emphasis on lack of charging infrastructure and also used very little time on the subject. That is the case with most of the presentations on renewables in general on TV...we need you on there Rob. People love you and will take notice I'm sure. 👍💚

There is more to Australia than just Sydney.

A like the swipe at "Consultants" who are basically parasites on the creation process.

My ongoing theory is you have to be on the spectrum to get Elon.

Well done finally getting the teams attempts to throw you, sorted out and hanging onto the title you founded.

Great Podcast buys👌

Preach! ❤

Come on BBC what are you waiting for? Great conversation and such a variety of topics that are so important.

Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest is the name of the mining guy you were thinking about in regards to the Williams acquisition and infinity train. He's also the guy trying to spruik hydrogen all over the place.

Thanks Rob, best episode yet. Keep up the good fight

Nothing like a good Rant!! Hope you felt better.

I love this guy 😆

Is there somewhere online I can see this documentary mentioned early on?

Got into Fully Charged because I saw an electric car review by 'that bloke off Scrapheap Challenge'! ...and here we are.

Re the rant about Shell and corruption.... Sunak is apparently proud of receiving bribes from Shell.

Hi all. I’m following this brilliant channel from South Africa. Not proud of our electricity situation here at the moment. We’re in a absolute catastrophe of biblical proportions as far as our “totally government run” power generator is concerned 😢. We get load shedding 10-12 hours a day.

It's awful that Solyndra was forced out of business. There should be Solyndra panels on every flat, white-roofed building, but now there is no one making them.

Robert -- the reason for the Hummer is that in the US the government gives a $20k+ rebate for businesses who buy heavy vehicles. The idea is delivery vans, trucks, etc. But a Hummer is so heavy that it qualifies for the rebate and yet it's a passenger vehicle. It's specifically designed to weigh so much that it gets past the threshold, so you can scam the government into paying for a personal car. It's absurd, but it makes sense for the scammers buying it and the scammers (GM) making it.

The pushback is coming when people wake up and realize the ground is shifting beneath their feet. It will take time to sort out but will happen, thanks to you both for your part.

11.05 onwards Roger is correct.

You HAVE to bring the Aptera to the next fully charged show! It's an absolute MUST!!! It's the most significant vehicle of the decade in my opinion!

My magic box got 3!!!!! flashing lights. That shows how expensive it was. Indeed, very important those lights.

With regatds to the Elon doco, I was somewhat disappointed by the screen time they gave Linette Lopez and her fake stories about "waste" and how she was attacked by Elon, when all he did was tweet that the story was inaccurate. Then they follow that up with some awful tweets by some deluded followers and present them as if from him. Typical bad journalism to create sensation where there was none.

WOW, i never expected a Robert Rant! 😁

LOVED ❤ your initial rant. I have had solar on the roof since 2010- yes it cost a fortune then, but has paid for itself many times over. Cheers from Brisvegas 🇦🇺

Talk about getting into the guts of everything, my I be so bold as you ask you Robert to go interview some Welsh Farmers who want to have solar on thier farms, but can't because the local grid network is not man enough to take the load. Lets get these people talking and creating solautions.

18:58 Talking about subscription/lease of vehicle. I seem to recall a very early fully charged show years ago where they visited a start up somewhere in Britain that planned to only offer vehicles in lease form. His idea was for ALL vehicles should only be leased. The advantages would be that lease payments would be spread to all suppliers of parts of the vehicle. Brakes, tires, windows, seats. In doing so it would encourage recycling and longevity. As when vehicle rarely needs repair would provide greater return $$$. Having company ultimately get the vehicle back as they own it, it would easier to enforce recycling and encourage recycling thinking in design. Interesting idea as leasing to a group that would buy a pool of vehicles and share vs individuals each having their own. Like company you work for or your neighborhood. If neighborhood there could be a variety of vehicles, mostly small but a few Vans and trucks depending on your need of the day. This would provide a central quick charge point for vehicles and allow for greater use of stationary battery bank to help with grid. So many possibilities.

That's a great advert

I've pointed this out before about Arrival, if they had gone into production with the first iteration of van it would have been a disaster, that van was a death trap for the driver in a crash, this led to the hold up as it needed a redesign.

No discussion about "getting on with it" should be completed without mentioning RiverSimple

Aptera and Cybertruck iconic vehicles of this century.VW IBUZZ dropped the ball

Roger is as big a fan as me!

It occurs to me that when there are sufficient people using cheap night-time electric energy that there will be no advantage to the electric company and they will gradually start charging the same tariff for any time of day (and it won’t be the smaller amount!). But perhaps I’m being unreasonably suspicious…🇨🇦

A fully charged TV show, here here, what a great idea. Even a monthly netflix show maybe.

Yes, let's build Hummers and mothball the Bolt. Pure GM logic. Quite sarcastically intended.

I recommend reading Jacques Fresco's book ..'The best that money CAN'T buy'.. it is really interesting food for thought about how we could live sustainably on this planet. It gets you looking at this world from an entirely new angle. An alternative you will NEVER consider as long as you think ONLY about this monetary system.

I love you!

An Indian Prime Minister. Had not been aware of that in that context . Times change and will.

fully charged should start their own political party and run this country, Robert for PM. i would vote for you....

I thought he was having Andy Wilman on there for a second lol

In Australia we do not say rooters.

Right there with you on 'self charging hybrids', but now Nissan are pushing theirs as 'unplugged', as if that is a good thing. Unbelievable.

You can't get away from Politics and the only question you need to ask is "who's side are you on?" Most politicians are *NOT* on our side.

In addition to checking out the feasibility of including Twiggy Forester's Fortescue Metals in Fully Charged Live Australia, why not do the same thing with Mike Cannon-Brookes and his mates that are seeking to develop that HUMONGOUS solar/wind/battery storage set-up in the Northern Territories to export renewable energy to Singapore? I suggest this as it would be yet another demonstration that renewables & storage are perfectly good for large scale usage of the same. I always love when Rodger and Robert get together; they're never dull.

12:40 Remember when "2010, Armstrong and fellow Apollo astronauts Gene Cernan and Jim Lovell criticized commercial spaceflight?" That it would be to expensive and slow in coming? SpaceX has the lowest cost launches ever (and biggest profit).

I've let some pollies about the upcoming Fully Charged Live Show in Sydney. I'm seeing the Qld minister for Energy, Renewables and Hydrogen and Minister for Public Works and Procurement next week. I hope something can be done while you are out here and I'm guessing you will be popping into Brissie.

I'd like to believe Honda will do things right, but I've just seen the copy on their UK website: "The CR-V is a full, self-charging hybrid…" *ugh*

Rob, can we please have timestamps?

I watch both channels so no worries. I'm glad you are old as you say because that means you are old enough to have been in Red Dwarf

EDIT Turns out I was completely wrong about what I said below and my Solis Hybrid Inverter does allow my DC coupled system to charge from the grid! Many thanks @salibaba ! Hi Robert regarding your battery set up and the fact you can charge them overnight on cheap rate leccy.... Worth noting that is dependent on the solar/inverter/battery set up/design. To do what you do, you need an AC coupled battery set up. I'm more than happy with my solar and battery set up but mine is a DC coupled system with the batteries coupled to the inverter. This means it cannot support charging the batteries from the grid. As I said I'm more than happy with my system but I only learned this info after I had the system installed. Worth viewers adding this to the list of things to discuss with system designers/installers when they spec a system.

Fun chat….Not much structure, but a fun chat. 😊

5kw battery only costs the same as 2.5 iPhones....

The new surgery near they finished this year which is very fancy has no thought for adding solar panels, the biggest part of the roof which is curved faces north, it would have made no difference to the day to day running to make it the other way around with the big roof facing south and not curved.

Flashing light ?!?! - "Step up to Red Alert !"...

I am for not depending on OIL, but the thing is that being from NZ, 1.the sun hardly shines 2. to run a refrigerator freezer 🤔 you need 16soler panels 3. If you have a Texas blackout with loses off water, gass, and electric power from the grid 4. And then you learn that houses with batteries walls were only good for 3hours, only. In a real disaster situation 😕, I think that this is very important, and devastating.thay say.😒 I say have plenty LPG for a true survival situation to cook 🍳 your thouring out foods.*must have ventilation indoors.

Monday morning just wouldn't be the same without this podcast, although I watch on YT. I watch and listen while getting ready for work. Good rant to start off too. 👍 EDIT: Must add that today's chat had so many points to comment on, but I'll leave them alone, apart from Roger's advice for Robert to return to mainstream TV with Fully Charged. Years ago I would have been dead against the move, because Fully Charged has grown online organically with pretty much word of mouth promotion alone. Now might be the time to add a broadcast show, with perhaps taking elements of "Tomorrow's World" [UK viewers will remember that one] and consumer advice programmes. Provided the commitment to it was big enough, [ie, not shown in some backwater time slot] with sufficient length of programme, depth and breadth of content, I believe it could be a big success. But remain and build online too.

On the subject of Scrapheap Challenge; would having a chat with Dick Strawbridge be an idea, to see how green he still lives? You know, after having that show "It's Not Ready Being Green".

As to NIO battery swaps, do the math to find out how economically feasible this is. For every battery pack NIO has in its swap stations NIO is forgoing making and selling a car with that pack in it. This is a huge opportunity cost that gets bigger and bigger as NIO ramps up. Even if NIO uses these swap stations to back the grid and makes money doing that, it will be a pittance in comparison to the profit they could have made on a car. The only reason that this is feasible for NIO to do right now is that they are not making any profit on their cars now. As soon as they do this lost opportunity cost will come to bite them. They may find themselves stopping swapping stations and robbing back the batteries to put in salable cars! At that time NIO might try to have you now stop renting your battery and pay up? Ergo they will never be as profitable or as successful as Tesla or even other companies like BYD might be. Maybe great for the consumer but bad for a stockholder. Finally, having to have a car design that includes swappable batteries means that you must always have a similar chassis design or the battery pack won’t fit or you would have to carry multiple pack designs for each model?? Unworkable…. so NIO has locked themselves into an architecture that precludes something like a structural battery pack and the cost savings that would entail.

Robert -- can you folks do something on school buses? I'd love a smart person's analysis of the costs/benefits of switching to electric for those. (The street in front of my daughter's school stinks of diesel fumes from those idling yellow buses.)

We have been able to watch the Elon Musk Documentary online in Australia.

I’m great with faces, good with names, can never marry the two together. Seen Roger Atkinson’s name on the synopsis, didn’t bat an eye. His face pops on screen at 10.00; I instantly smile and think, this’ll be good.

O M.G. - Rob . ..I've just seen you in a POP VIDEO with The Cat from about 1898,...oops..1998!! COOL!!!!!

The the aptera according to the inter-web dose not need to be plugged in or fulled ? This is why people would buy one not because it is small. 🤔🤔🤔

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I just love when you try to sound like a yank. (Router for example) :^) Your not too bad at it either! Now back to the podcast. Cheers!