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Let's get rid of both!

Woooorrrd

It is a private institute, so I guess either get rid of legacy admission and affirmative action or take away government funds, grants and loans.

Yup that’s capitalism. Yes legacy is super unfair. But yeah colleges are greedy and technically they’re trying to admit students based on how much they can contribute to their campuses. One of the biggest ways is to donate $$$

You act like rich Asian has no legacy admission. In fact, most of them from rich kids in China and Singapore

Those rich legacy kids from China should not get in because their parents have money or went to Harvard. They should have the marks to get in like everyone else. And the Asian American case did repeatedly go after legacy admission They were just shot down by the Supreme Court

Btw That's a problem for Asian Americans and all Americans for that matter People in China are better off than Chinese Americans these days Especially as China has just surpassed the USA as the wealthiest nation on earth

Michigan sends to the Detroit Public School System funding from the state to bring up per student spend to the level that is above the state average. However despite the fact that the Detroit Public School System is controlled by African Americans, the education results have been disastrous. It is often the case that people repeat the same mantra that money equals quality of education but that is simply not the case.

@@anthonydhan The money need to be put in Black family hands, not the schools.

@@anthonydhan Detroit Public Schools Community District is White (71%). 11% of Detroit Public Schools Community District employees are Black or African American. 8% of Detroit Public Schools Community District employees are Hispanic or Latino.

How many more decades do African Americans give Democrats to actually deliver on their promises ? We’re on year 65 of +90% support.

@@drwalka10 Good point. Which specific promises are your referring to?

That will be the GOPs next target, ending AA for military admission programs. Republicans hate minorities in the military.

@@Ben-lh7jg Then they better hate legacy admissions too since they are all about equality.

@@DiamondFlame45 What are you talking about? Republicans don't care about equality, they only support what benefits them.

the military takes anyone who meets the minimum qualifications so I don't see how you try to say that the military uses AA.

@@flyrodmike then why is AA included at military schools? Well, they simply want more minorities in the military....as cannon fodder.

Asians on average score higher SAT scores than Whites, so Asians do not need affirmative action. Affirmative action is for people who score low SAT scores!

I definitely don't think this will help asians in anyway get into Harvard, the admissions office said asians weren't "cool" enough, not sure how this win will make them cooler. This may make them feel like they won something and that they matter, that's always a good thing.

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if these schools just ended up admitting more whites and less Asians now that race isn’t a factor?

This isn't going to change SHIT. Colleges do not want 85% East Asian student bodies. Colleges do not want 60% female student bodies. The studies on the benefits of a diverse student body are very clear. On top of that, prospective students really don't want to go to schools with demographics that are WAY out of a whack (for example, colleges are acutely aware that students are avoiding schools that have really unbalanced gender imbalances).

Only time will tell

White women were benefitting from it the most and Immigrants. They wanted to take from us. They are not on our side. We have no allies.

@@tonyamd9800 illegal immigration needs to be abolished. A lot of the Asians are not real citizens born to illegal immigrants. They skip the US citizenship naturalization test and head on down to the hospital to grab a US birth certificate while on a shopping trip in America then have their child pretend to be a citizen to fight the black Americans for college seats. It’s crazy. All the racist sat test need to be abolished as well to end discrimination

Black foreigners benefit the most

Sure you don't. That's why you left 100 comments about it here

Especially those that come to this and overstay their visa, then get lost in Chinatown working in some restaurant until they receive a visa

I think what we will find now is that more whites will be accepted and less Asians given race isn’t a requirement anymore. Jus because you have the best scores and GPA doesn’t mean a school needs to admit you.

Good luck convincing conservatives and the GOP to stop defunding public schools and underfunding minority neighborhoods.

I follow this also! We shouldn't be looking at someone's race, rather erase someone's race, and name. If you want to help, help those in specific zip codes. This way we aren't looking at race.

@@Ben-lh7jg we have to allow them opportunities!

to do this you'd have to break the direct pipeline between property tax and school funding. pool all property tax dollars and distribute funding evenly. we do NOT fund public schools evenly. this is just one of the many reasons affirmative action needed to exist.

Should be backlash there is too many blacks in the NBA and not enough diversity especially when the folks making the products that support the NBA are Asians. And Asia is where the money is these days

I'll take more diversity and affirmatiive action in college sports like basketball and football

​@@DW-op7lyDawg you gotta be at least 6'7 in Basketball no many Asians or other races than white are that tall. Unless you want too lower the hoops?

Asians are disadvantage having to study’s all day instead of being allowed to play basketball Plus since Asian Americans have to score 400 to 500 points higher Than Black Americans on SATs Then just give the Asians 125 shots, while everyone else gets 100 shots Move the start line for Asian Americans 25 meter in a 100 meter race Etc etc etc In the name of diversity Especially according to the Universities who automatically rate Asians as having no kindness empathy, honesty as soon as they receive an application So there must be something wrong with being an Asian

Conservatives are not interested in resolving the sources of wealth inequality. They just wanted to get rid of this and used Asian Americans as a cudgel to take one more think away from the other minorities.

This, if the idea is to make a fair playing field then underserved communities should have the quality education in the first place to make them competitive applicants.

Tired of coming across envious low iq comments like this

You're really going to use Elon Musk as an example of how America isn't a meritocracy? The immigrant that has created multiple billion dollar, fortune 100 companies and tens of thousands of jobs for Americans, who has almost single handedly changed the entire global automobile market to be sustainable and revitalized the aerospace industry. You can't make this stuff up lol.

There are no descendants of those workers. Most of them went back to China

A while? You might want to go back to the days when there was no railways in the western frontier until indentured Chinese workers was brought in

Or imagine being a Japanese American who was imprisoned in camps and then let out and have to start over then only to be bypassed by b lacks who were more well off but had lower scores. This is exactly what was happening in California in the 70-80’s. Prop 209 ended affirmative action in the 1990’s. Asian American enrollment jumped from 20% to 40%. California actually owes reparations to Asian Americans not b lacks. California never had slavery. California was part of the Chinese Exclusion Act. The biggest mass lynching happened to Chinese. Property was stolen from Japanese Americans and never given back. Korean Americans had their stores burned and looted in the 1992 LA Riots. The police purposely did nothing. Historic racial discrimination in college admissions. Even to this day. Asian American business owners not protected. Robbed. So many attacked and beaten by b lacks. Same for homeowners.

@twerkysandwich64 Ok, we got to address this here an now. 90% of the U.S railroads were east of the Mississippi. Chinese railroad workers did not built most of the trans continental railroad system, they help build the smallest section(which is important). Black Americans built most of the railroads in the south(under the worst conditions), a huge chunk of the system in the West(or what was called the west back then), and some of the system up north(wear most of the system is/was). Also, most Asian students applying for Harvard are not the grandchildren of the Chinese railroad workers, they are the children of well off migrants. Let's be honest in this dialogue.

​@@gaymer-jno, they actually are You if you're black you got rap music and athleticism, big d. If you're brown you got the cholo gangsta drug cartel thing going for you. If you're Asian, you will be branded as an incel. You're crazy to think that asians dont have it worst. We may have money and education but the media and white males wont allow us to breed and fulfill our biological goal. Whereas they dont see you as a threat and will give you some women.

The personality are race neutral so what’s the complaint? Oh so If the personality test don’t benefit the Asians you think it needs to be scrapped? Asians want it thrown out because it don’t benefit them. Well the SAT test don’t benefit the blacks so throw that out along with illegal citizenship birthright for children born to illegal immigrants

Even though she's smart, she still probably fell under Affirmative Action. That's racism in a nutshell. For example, a Tuskegee Airmen who flew during combat and had thousands of hours of flying outside of the military was denied employment with a commercial airline. Every qualification for the airline he met or surpassed. After suing, the airline had to compensate him because they could not prove his denial of employment beyond the fact that he was African American. That's why Affirmative Action was put in place. For non-white people who are qualified/ overqualified who are still denied whatever it is because of their race. When they checked off the box on your friend, they most likely checked off qualified through Affirmative Action. If Affirmative Action was not in place, she might not have been contacted. Her spot would've been given to a white student. Without Affirmative Action, white people, white establishments, white institutions, white banks, white businesses, etc don't legally have to give non-white people anything. They can keep it all to themselves.

@@RAconsciousness you are right

I think AA made sense if it strictly applied for white & black Americans. To apply AA to Hispanic and Asian people made no sense because there is no historical wrong within American history where a current Hispanic applicant should be given a boost for the nonexistent crimes of an Asian applicant’s ancestors. Because AA includes races outside black & white Americans, it became no more about rewriting historical wrongs, but more assuming getting college diversity % to match US population diversity % as rewriting all historical wrongs when it doesn’t (proof of this is how AA designs it so a Asian person has it harder than a white person). The higher education representation between Asian and Hispanic Americans can be explained by the class disparity between the two can be explained by the vast differences in the preconditions required for a Asian person to have the funds to immigrate to America through plane & gain citizenship in contrast to a Hispanic person through land. Most rich Asian Americans were already considered rich before immigrating from exploiting the labor of poorer Asian people back in their homeland. AA would only work if applied to all races if the interest for DEI for upper education diversity to match the diversity of the American population would go along with America also pushing for the diversity in America’s population to match the diversity of the world population. If America had an AA system but for immigration policy where an Asian immigrant had an easier access to citizenship on the bases of representation since Asian people are like 50% of the world population, then we would see a lot more poorer Asian people become Asian Americans & thus bringing down the average test scores and GPA of Asian American applicants.

@@beckembrown7002 it’s not about who wronged who my guy. It’s about evening the playing field In reality the exact clone of myself raised in a wealthy family from an affluent neighborhood will be the better version of me being raised in a poorer family/neighborhood

True

Not so!

@@nathanolson3135 it’s not in CA for sure

If only black culture values education like the Asians do!

Correct, they're massive benefactors of the massive suffering and struggle of black people while simultaneously taking up right wing, white supremacist talking points that work to keep black Americans disadvantaged.

Aye everyone has a choice. Its weird to look at asians who came after civil rights and think they see america the same as us.

Those ungrateful people

Thats right. they forget that whites also were rejected. This paves the way for more whites and any asian they let in will be mostly female. even funnier is that a white conservative group is funding the asians against AA.

TRUTH!

You should make a video regarding your take on this decision! I remember watching one about ur Stanford admissions experience and it was quite comprehensive

@@yoshadmunappreciate it! Haha I made a video covering this topic before the release, and I’m not sure I want to be involved in political things anymore 😢😅

Those people are usually rich that’s why

@@jeffdaman6969 we get why they wont get rid of legacy entries, but if we're going to make the argument about entry being based on metrioracy then legacy should be eliminated.

@@JF-vw9lv yeah but they’re rich. They aren’t getting rid of legacy entires. They are better than the average student. Maybe not grade wise but they’re rich. Their family is rich. They are more important and the middle and lower class. America 🇺🇸

@@jeffdaman6969 The Supreme Court can shut them down also.

@@tonyamd9800 but you know they won’t. Not with the judges in there now.

Indeed. People argue that the percentage of Asians is already so high at Ivies, but that’s not an indicator that there’s no discrimination. The analogy is that there are 20 red apples and 10 are kept, and there are 7 green apples and 5 are kept. Yes there are indeed double as many red apples, but it was harder for them to be picked.

@@wamyy5 You should write that in your application to Harvard.

@@kpopgigachad Already didn’t get in as explained in one of my videos 😜

@@wamyy5 So we apparently know that Asians are historically admitted at a higher rate than their share of the population. usually more than twice. Also note that Asians have been consistently admitted at twice the rate of “blacks” or latinos the U.S. Asian population is 6.3%. But Harvard class of 2020 was 26.6% Asian 55% "white", 11% "black" and 13% latino. back in 2010, before the 2014 lawsuit, the U.S. Asian population was 4.8%. Harvard Asian enrollment was 12.5% in 2010 "black" and latino were both 5.8% but. "whites" were at 42.8% AND, international students were enrolled at 20% 20 red apples 9 were given to "White" people. 4 were given to international students. 3 were given to Asians and 1 was given to a "black" person and 1 was given to a latino person. but you think the 2 apples should have been given to Asian people instead of one of the 9 apples given to "white" kids when at least 40% of those were legacies? and you don't think international students get in because of money? I just want to know why some Asian people really think Affirmative action didn't help them. Considering the numbers. Why do some Asian people think it was "black" and latino students who took spot from them when the numbers point to money. It's just really weird that whatever rejection was felt was blamed on "black" people and not rich people

​@@p0rnany0ne black people are overrepresented in sports.

Nothing complicated . Only one race + democrats think of this racism policy and push everybody to accept or they call you racism

@@blacksea6608 Your talking nonsense. Asians were also getting in because of affirmative action.

The natives in Australia have a lot in common with black people in America.

You literally can not do anything about it . They are kind of the owner of the school coz they build the school together?

Big money politicians and media moguls don't earn $$$ exposing white rich people getting benefits.

They know, they don't care but that been said loads of Asians were on our side too so ima just keep quiet we tried to warn them tho so not our fight now.

This is the real take everyone ignores. AA still benefits Asians but wealthy Asians needed a far right white guy to push this anti AA agenda…

You make no sense at all. The only way it is fair for all groups is not affirmative action. That's like saying you should get hired for a job not for your skills/knowledge but rather your skin color. Would you hire someone solely based on race as opposed to how competent they are?

"To apply AA to Hispanic and Asian people made no sense because there is no historical wrong within American history where a current Hispanic applicant should be given a boost for the nonexistent crimes of an Asian applicant’s ancestors." This is ridiculous. AA isn't about punishing X group for Y group's ancestors, and it's telling that you view it that way. AA corrects for the fact that is this wildly racist nation, that was monstrously slow for the majority of its existence, and that it acknowledges that one group EXPLICITLY set itself above the others in terms of access to wealth, education, health, safe neighborhoods, etc... It works most clearly in the case of a white applicant (more likely to be wealthy) vs a black applicant (more likely to be from poverty). This is why I'm in favor of it being a class based thing as it will continue to correct for these imbalances and disadvantaged roots. P.S. The Supreme Court didn't fully dislike AA either. There's exceptions left for it as well, such as admissions to Military academies. Because the Government is more interested in ensuring a continuous stream of cannon fodder.

@@RicochetForce But if you do it race based. It will never be fair for the other groups still. And plus most AA that attend those schools are not descendants from slavery.

@@RollerBladingSuxs Wait, so you think it's fair for Black Americans to carry the debt of America's sins?

@@godofthisshit AA is not the answer.

The ancestors of most of these asians complaining didn't fight and bleed for civil rights.

@@justin-kv1jh I know that. I wish I could make a survey but many surveys show that most Asian Americans were in favor of AA. I'd bet that the Asians who were against it are from recent immigrant families. People who came after 1965. They are ignorant of the fight it took to get to where we are now. and how that fight didn't benefit the people who were doing the fighting.

no you clown. asians did participate in civil right movement and they had tough time in usa. ahem, internment camp, chinese exclusion act. Its not only blacks who were discriminated, asians had it just as bad. holy crap education in this country is such a mess.

Agree, that benefited everyone, but AA at school admissions hurt Asian kids now..

@@rs-dp6pr how do they hurt asian kids when they are consistently admitted at twice or more their population numbers? at harvard the asian admission is over 25%. Asians are only 6% of the U.S. Asians are consistently admitted at twice or more the rate of "black" people or "hispanic" people The only people who are hurting an Asian person's chances of getting into a school are "white" people or other asians.

And murder rate targeting Asians will increase.

You are missing one important point because you are self centered on asians. WHITES were also rejected that had higher grades than some asians and as for raw numbers, there are more whites who are high performing. Basically, now this means that the white students will increase, the asian students will decrease in ivy league, especially as the GOP takes power. What happens when we make war with China? Why is india in BRICS? Why are asian countries dumping the US dollar? This Ruling provides the way for all white ivy league schools again. Asians are being set up here. ( Probably deservedly so)

Some asians got in because of Affirmative Action too. The truth is that it was the Black americans that fought for civil rights act that was passed in 1964. Asians were then allowed in again because of it in 1965. The person behind this is actually a white conservative group and used a disgruntled set of asians who will actually make it worse for asians.

Conservatives don't give a fuck. They live in this fantasy land where they see the country, and higher education as a meriotocracy. Also, let's ignore the fact that conservatives consistently vote to underfund, overpolice these poor nieghtborhoods leads to poor outcomes in school.

sunset park brooklyn is a poor zipcode but it produces quite a bit of IVY students.

@@ponuni Do not cite exceptions. It serves no one.

@@RicochetForce lmao it’s a poor chinese neighborhood. Are you saying poor asians making it to ivy league are an exception just because poor black and browns can’t do it? They’re all poor what’s the difference? Maybe it’s culture???? 🤔🤔

exactly, that is why we need to remove property taxes as a means of funding public schools.

I just want to know how Asians are burdened when they benefited from AA And are historically admitted at a higher rate than their share of the population Asians are 6.3% of the population But Harvard class of 2025 was 27.2% Asian and has been admitting SFFA sued in 2014 2010 census had Asians at 4.8% of the population Harvard admitted Asians at 12.5% in 2010 Also note that Asians have been consistently admitted at Twice the rate of “blacks” or latinos

Why do black people always have to praise other groups who have shown us time and time again that they HATE BLACK PEOPLE. That's our peoples problem. We have our own problems to deal with. We need to WAKE UP. Our people are clueless when it comes to voting for the Democratic party who has done NOTHING for the black community.

Just like George Bush Jr. and Trump.

I agree. What's the personality scale they are talking about? So racist.

@@SK-ql3yf you can't claim racism but you can exit to where you flee'd from. How can you claim racism in a place built from trafficking + slavery, d duh😲? Nobody forced ya. ANN COULTER LET THEM KNOW.. America doesn't owe immigrants ish. Learn the true history of America since you study so much study that buddy.

@@SK-ql3yfbut it’s true though

@@Chi_06 data to support your opinion? I don't think so.

From what I read Asian students scored very high with Alum interterviews. They were just automatically given low personality scores when the original applications were made and before there was even a interview. But Havard lawyers tap danced around the reason why and pointed to other factors

Hahahaha I can see that. Sounds like my sibling and me 😂

Question Are you from the US? If so, when did your family come to the US? I find that a lot of people make comments not knowing our history. The problem is, the government did use govt funds for higher education Higher education used to be very cheap. But govt has scaled back funding by over 9 billion dollars over the past ten years alone. During the Vietnam war, a lot of students protested the war. That kicked off conservatives defunding higher education out of spite. That turned into Conservatives deciding they didn’t want the government funding “liberal” education. Merit is a great Dream, but it will never exist in a country where max profits control the economy

@@p0rnany0ne That’s why I said government should fund education. The cost of college has skyrocketed to a ridiculous level due to profiteering. Some aspects of society should be publicly financed for the benefit of the country like education, healthcare, and housing and less spent on military and wars. But the US is completely corrupt and controlled by special interests, so no change will happen until people get in the streets.

@@flyrodmike I'm glad you know that. the US has been corrupt and controlled by special interests since the beginning. they give us somethings to keep us from rioting, but when we get comfortable, they take it away

Disagree. Southeast Asians are lumped in with East Asians when filling their race quotas. In other words, you were not getting preferential treatment when applying for college as a southeast Asian.

South Asians were put into the same group as asians though with race based aa. The ruling specified that it’s okay to consider race for example in your college essay if you describe how your race has affected you. Schools just can’t blindly reject people because of their race

Exactly. The assumption conservatives are making is that Black people, Latinos, East Asians, Natives, and White People are starting off from the same flat, level ground. We KNOW, statistically that's not true. We KNOW that Black people and Latinos pretty much get shit on at almost every step. Worse maternal health outcomes, worse healthcare, poorer neighborhoods, garbage schools (even while living in high tax base cities). For a student from that background to perform academically on a level Harvard will even notice is an EXTREME feat. Allowing this student in will enable them to break generational poverty cycles. BTW, this also applies to the poorer families from West, Central, and SE Asian families. Compare that to East Asian families or White families. A lot of the former are actually wealthy, educated immigrants and severely skew results. White families have the highest amount of generational wealth. They live in neighborhoods with schools funded by high property taxes, college prep resources up the wazoo, college educated parents that know how to navigate the admissions and prep process, the kids are often covered by their parents health insurance, etc... How the fuck is anyone cheering that now the groups from the first group have an even lower chance of getting into these schools? Especially since they're major parts of the country's population.

“Its not fair for a person to work hard and not get in because of their race” Colleges arent rejecting people because of darker skin, however colleges are favoring acceptance of certain people because of darker skin, thats why affirmative action needed to be ended because it is a closet racist policy

That's a good point. Asians overall have higher income and education levels but when you break it down and compare groups like Japanese, Korean vs Hmong, Vietnamese, etc you start to see some big differences. But I disagree when you said specific groups can never compete fairly with whites and east Asians, that kind of sounds like you are saying those other groups are inferior? Either way I think this ruling helps see Asians more as individuals and less as a monolith.

Money

Many ways to earn money . No need to go to colleges actually. But Harvard was racism though

I’m sorry to hear that - I would love to learn why it is a defeat for the latter? Just want to learn more helpful perspectives! Thank you

Not really. Do You know why? Because there are a lot more high achieving Whites with good grades and high SAT scores. While the percentage per demographic is higher in asians, the raw numbers are much, much lower compared to whites. This helps whites, not asians.

Since colleges can no longer consider race as a factor in admissions, historically disadvantaged racial minorities will have a harder time getting into elite schools. This would include regular achieving Asians. However, (ironically) high achieving Asians will benefit from this court decision. High achieving Asians were the main plaintiffs in the case. They argued that they were unfairly being denied admission because the colleges needed their spaces for other racially disadvantaged minorities.

@@user-we3dk1zg9g With previous race-based admissions, all Asians had a harder time since it looked at race. Princeton said that Asians have to score an average of 140 points higher than whites to stand the same chance of admissions

@Razear So rich legacies should get into these schools, but not the families of the people who built these schools for free?

Thought the same thing when I heard him say Asians might be being selfish. It’s called “Students for *Fair* Admissions.” We should lift people up - not push others down

@@wamyy5 Until they admit more high scoring whites because of raw numbers and less asians. but of couse whiney will now complain of racial discrimination.

what meritocracy? the U.S. has never been a meritocracy. The U.S. has always been about wealth and gaining wealth and benefiting from wealth that will never change and if it does, getting into college is the least of your worries

Yup that’s sad!

Unfortunately republicans are trying to end affirmative action in military academies.

Don't you want our military to be diverse? As a white woman I don't know why you don't support assistance for minorities advancing their careers.

@@Ben-lh7jg Don't you want our Ivy League schools to be diverse? As a Hispanic man I don't know why you don't support assistance for minorities advancing their educational pursuits. Furthermore, studies have shown that a diverse student body greatly improves the learning environment and culture of a school. It's why these colleges do this in the first place.

@@RicochetForce No, as a Hispanic male I don't care about diversity in my environment. I don't care about Ivy schools, we don't need a college degree. College is overatted, its about skill

So a system that isn’t fully colorblind is worse than a system that explicitly discriminates based on race? And to no good end either. Education levels for the groups it sought out to help, both in total and in relative to other groups, have actually fallen in the span under Affirmative Action. It has no measurable benefits to the group it seeks out to help beyond artificially elevate them, and in practice discriminates far, far more than legacy admissions. Historical and structural racism must be pretty weak if Asians, even poor Asians, can easily outsmart it and climb to the top. What is preventing other groups from “acting like Asians” and thus dismantling “white supremacism”. Seems like it would be the easiest way to undo a wicked system, if it existed.

@darrylt8502 So no scholarships?

@@gaymer-j People keep bringing up zip codes as if gentrification isn't happening in major U.S cities.

Please remember that doctors aren't only coming from the top universities. If affirmative action didn't exist you'd still get okay doctors who didn't get the best grades in high school or came from the best university

There are underprivileged students who are helped, but the majority of African Americans at Harvard are from upper classes. (source: Journal of Blacks in Higher Education)

You're actually wrong, look at the statistics. Asian's who got rejected even though they had other minorities score higher than them didn't make it but they complained that is was because of Affirmative action. You should read the stats.

what? asian americans do get affirmative action benefits. more so than "black" people and latinos

they are already doing that

Harvard was chartered in 1650 The first “black” student may have been 1869 Over 200 years. That was based in skin color. They weren’t allowing “black” students for 200 years. And there was no race war over it The idea of affirmative action causing a race war… Harvard and other schools were using race as a factor since inception (and for over 40 years supposedly in favor of minorities). No one has warred over it yet

So you can say the best well rounded Asians get in at higher rate than anyone else. Harvard has a right to meet it's objectives for diversity especially since AA was the plan and in place before most of these Asians even came to America. Nobody forced you to come- like they did blacks. To come into a country and complain about that country's policies to right it's own wrongs before you even got here is pretty arrogant. Harvard will still meet its goals even without AA. Asians simply have removed themselves from the "people of color" narrative. I actually believe the court made the right decision but with the wrong narrative. 2023 is not 1960 and Harvard's faculty, administration is not what it was 60 years ago. The black community is also not what it was as you now have legacy blacks., billionaire blacks and a black middle class. So times have changed and AA should be based on income and not race. But Asians took the "Blacks took my spot" narrative and this will backfire on them. Especially as conservatives consider China the main enemy of the U.S. Just don't come running to the DNC for help. You showed who you are and we believe you.

Now do one for black people in NBA

@@ghhhggrtes-rx1gx I'll do one for 100 Notable alumni of Harvard University to see just what have Asians done with their degree. Google this yourself. I only found one Asian on this list so i did as many Harvard notable alumni lists I could find. Oddly the only Asian American on the Harvard nnoable list was Jeremy Lin, the Asian basketball player- that's the only guy to make the list. Blacks on the list include: Neil degrasse Tyson, Angela Davis, WEB Dubois, Barrack Obama, Lewis Henry Gates, Cornell West and this list could go on. See for yourself. Apparently, blacks who graduate from Harvard tend to make more of an impact on society than their Asian counterparts. Most Asians, it seems go into teaching. Harvard can boast the first non-white U.S. president- their highest achieving black according to the list. Or the first Asian on the Knicks (who never won a championship and probably never made the playoffs.) If you were Harvard would you want more Asians or more blacks?

What about the Non-Hispanic White ?

America has a history of denying black citizens access to colleges because of race and put other policies were in place to hold black people down, like Jim Crow, separate and unequal schools, etc. Blacks fought, marched and protested and America decided to address this past discrimination offering a special opportunity to those they have wronged. What's bad about that? Most Asian began migrating to the U.S. after the 1965 Immigration Act which came into place after the nation's civil rights struggles. How is it right for Asians to come in and sit at the table set by other people's struggle and question the "deal" America has made with them to address past harmful treatment. Blacks fought for this opportunity. Asians did not. These policies were in place long before Asians migrated to America and nobody forced them to come. Unlike blacks who were forced to come to America, and work for no pay for generations. It would be different if Asians came and marched for freedom, equality and justice- but they did nothing and now they can sit in Starbucks and cry injustice and criticize policies that America put in place long before Asians saw the U.S. as a safe place to immigrate to. They are sitting at the table someone else has set and complaining about the deal the table-setters put in place long before the Asians immigrated here. It would be like me moving to Germany and complaining because the government has a special deal with Jews that addresses the past wrongs against them but excludes me. Countries have histories. If you don't like the history and special laws of the land, don't come. No one invited you anyway. You saw a good table and decided to grab a meal. People who set that table did so with a different deal in place. All that being said, I do support the Supreme Court decision to end AA. The people who benefitted from AA were black immigrants who, like Asian immigrants, have no history of suffering under American law. AA should be replaced by a policy based on brains and economic need. Hopefully when this happens, black immigrants and Asian immigrants will STFU and understand it's not about them.

How is it hard when Asians are admitted at more than twice their rate of the population? Some colleges even have more Asians than “white” people

@cubannyc8911 Exactly

You're correct. We know now. We are survivors and fighters. We just have to stop fighting for these other groups and focus on our own people from now on.

What's coming?

Do you really think that's going to change? It's going to get worse, not better.

That's taken off the table with Affirmative action.

@@tonyamd9800 what do you mean by that?