Fuso Canter 4x4 truck vs a Ford Ranger ute offroad and onroad test

Fuso Canter 4x4 truck vs a Ford Ranger ute offroad and onroad test - Part 1 of 2

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L2SFBC - Robert Pepper - auto journo

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I go for a drive in a Fuso Canter 4x4 light truck operated by Getabout Training and compare it to my Ford Ranger. Do you need the huge payload and space, and if you do, is that worth the compromises compared to a normal ute? And how do you best drive on of these offroad?
00:00 introduction to the vehicles
00:33 controls and seating
01:38 onroad driving
06:48 the forward control position
08:22 offroad driving techniques & Ranger comparisons
14:15 the chainsaw you may need!
15:29 manouvering in the bush
17:22 final tips
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@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

This is Part 1 of 2 - in Part 2 we'll take a look at Canter setup and tech differences.

@nickjennings8317 2 жыл бұрын

Reminded me of the first time I drove the Land Rover 101 Ex Military Gun Tractor. A kin to driving a block of flats around 😉. Obviously very capable & as always, horses for courses. Thanks Robert 👍

@SpeedSmith 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review, thanks

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Please share!

@allanhugh2044 2 жыл бұрын

I've just returned from a trip to some sandy tracks with sand dunes in an Isuzu 75-155 and what you have shown is very relevant to the techniques required and the major differences between a light 4x4 truck and a 4x4 ute. The Canter, as shown is a very serious 4x4. The physical size is the only drawback, and after doing Goog's Track in our fully loaded truck with our slide-on, I would have really liked to have had that chainsaw. Great review, looking forward to the second instalment.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Yep I've had to chainsaw enough out the way in the Ranger sized vehicles let alone something bigger! I don't recall Googs being that overgrown though?

@allanhugh2044 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC I don't know it that well, this was the first time, but listening to the two way chatter it seemed that some who had done the track at least once before, were saying that the last year being a wet year, had produced quite a growth spurt in the area. It certainly was reasonably green, if you know what I mean. We were armed with a battery operated reciprocating saw, door open and standing on the tyre and floor enabled some judicious pruning. But honestly our truck at 2200mm wide on the tray made it very tight, not to mention the slide-on camper at around 3.3m high.

@KevinHeadlam-Tasmania 2 жыл бұрын

One of the great benefits of a vehicle such as this is the ability to have an Engine Brake/Retarder fitted to the transmission - this is especially beneficial when fully loaded or towing

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Good point!

@brucepeppinck9988 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward great 👍 trucks 4x4 drivers Like one ☝️

@brucebaxter6923 2 жыл бұрын

Good video with fair comparison. Personally I traded up my GQ patrol for a Chevrolet blitz

@patrick35400 Жыл бұрын

Good job!

@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын

Thanks Patrick, please share!

@patrick35400 Жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC Of course, I Will do - A french couple very interesting is on the way for a long journey with a super 4X4 Canter camper, they are crossing Canada now kzfaq.info/love/cAYsmp-yPoUdtQPvAU25OA Kind regards, Patrick

@rjl110919581 2 жыл бұрын

LOVE MY 2010 ISUZU 4X4 CREW CAB 300/75 AS TRAVELING WELL AS GOOD DIESEL FUEL AS UP 1350KM ON 280LITE OF DIESEL

@paulbrimo4437 2 жыл бұрын

Great Review Thanks. Always loved the FUSO Canter FG 4x4 with their factory GVM and dual cab option, towbar, super single alloy wheel options, and you can buy slide on camper bodies new or used for the FUSO Canter FG. They had a pair of automatic FUSO Canters at the Daimler Rocklea truck dealership in Brisbane, QLD around 2018 or so - said they had been specially ordered to encourage purchase orders by Rural Fire Brigades to choose the FUSO Canter FG 4x4. One was single cab auto and other was dual cab auto. Yes, Owned a 2015 Suzuki Jimny for 6 years 150,000km & never an issue - factory tyres at factory pressure on dry sand and shallow mud all good, but wanted a ute with more storage for tools and higher towing ability again. Driven a Ford Ranger 4x2 as company ute with electronic safety pack and loved it - wanted my own 4x4 Ford Ranger.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul, interesting post!

@wheelhouseadventures8176 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome please share!

@zekesteggall2176 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I’m seriously looking into a Canter or a NPS. Any chance you could do a comparison? What are your thoughts between the two? Thanks

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I would if I could get them at the same time. I did just offer my Patreons an exclusive chat with people that build them.

@philhazell6773 2 жыл бұрын

Could you make improvements to your audio particularly from within the truck. Were you both wearing mics and if not why not, cheers Phil

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

We both were, but I left some background noise in so you could get an accurate idea of what the interior noise is like.

@richardwest2505 Жыл бұрын

What year canter is that's and what do they do to get those tires and ride hight on that truck

@gasman3778 2 жыл бұрын

Which companies would you recommend to convert the bare bones truck to a fully kitted out one?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I'd speak to AAV4x4 and All Terrain Warriors to begin with.

@ianmoore4327 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Rob, how did this drive compared to a iveco daily?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I can't really say as while I have driven both, not recently nor back to back and for not long enough to say. If you are looking for a much less truck-like experience than I can say the Iveco won't provide that, and as it isn't cabover it should be slightly softer in ride.

@maxgood42 Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more, it is way better than overloading a Ute. Is this like the FUSO cheap Asian Unimog ? I’ve always been curious about forward 4x4 but no I’m not in a hurry to get an Express van It does make me think what might have been if we had more options …..remember the Forward Control Land Rover ?

@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын

Would love more FC options!+

@maxgood42 Жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC Dyna/Delta cab on a 80S LC

@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын

YES!

@Wreckingballed 2 жыл бұрын

One thing to be aware of is that the maximum speed limit is 100km/h for trucks on Heavy Vehicle registration even when the posted limit 110!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Over 4500kg GVM it's 100, under it's posted speed imit. The Canter can be configured as over or under 4500kg, which is also the limit for a car licence.

@ian9toes Жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC But from my understanding if you want to get super singles as do almost everyone, then the overall lift will be too high for a normal car so you’re forced to register it as a truck, which sucks if you don’t need all that extra GVM.

@BenMitro 2 жыл бұрын

Its pretty hard to not consider the truck when towing...Better still a body on it and nothing to tow. How do prices compare with the Ranger and the Fuso as shown?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to say..go into that a bit in the next video. Overall the Ranger will be cheaper but you can easily spend less on the Canter. Consider a Ranger with a GVM upgrade, engine mods, all the fruit...that'd be more than a Canter. A Global Xplorer motorhome on the camper is around $260k.

@BenMitro 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC Thanks Robert.

@Sabumnim666 Жыл бұрын

That was a great video but the biggest issue is budget when deciding between vehicles. While the Ranger or LC300 cant hold a candle to the load ability and general off roading ability of he truck. I and most every person who does 4wding or tows a caravan spend a relatively small amount of time actually doing these activities and the vehicles is more a domestic use for probably 80% or more of the time. There is no way my wife would use the truck in town to go out for dinner etc.

@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын

Agreed - some people can afford a dedicated tourer, and others sell their house or similar to go touring.

@chrisgrenzner9337 2 жыл бұрын

I am surprised that it has lift blocks (spacers) on the front axle. Longer, re-arched springs would be better.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

there's disadvantages to very tall springs, less stability.

@Brgnalf81 2 жыл бұрын

Do you need a special drivers permit for a truck like this?

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

If it is set to a GVM of over 4500kg then yes you need a Light Truck license, if not then a car license will do - this is for Australia.

@nissman1753 Жыл бұрын

Anyone doing duramax or Cummins swaps ?

@93jummy 2 жыл бұрын

We had Trans-spec 3.5tonne 4x4 fuso canters in the mines. Had a ugly pope mobile fibreglass cabin on the back. Under no circumstances would I travel off road in one for leisure. Christ it was scary in the mud. Handled pretty bad. Fuso branded Kidney belts should be issued with them. We did get them into some strange places, was capable but so was a company hilux in 2wd I'll stick to 650kg payload personally haha.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Did yours have the suspension change and single tyre mod for the rear? Makes a difference...as does different seats. Why bad in the mud?

@93jummy 2 жыл бұрын

They took a serious beating considering it was for crew transport to operational areas in a mine in pit ect but everyone equally hated them BMA/bhp I believe banned them they had a few get into slides and fall over causing death. Probably why where we worked braught them EDIT it was an ATW 3.5 tonne fuso not a trans spec*

@Davidsmith-mc2no 2 жыл бұрын

What licence do you need to have to drive this

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Car license if under 4500kg, light rigid if over. Would recomend setting the vehicle up for over 4500kg so you get the payload.

@chrisstevens463 2 жыл бұрын

This is a truck with a car engine,this thing should have a 4-6 litre engine might then think about buying one.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Too slow?

@chrisstevens463 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC No not the speed but put a load on it and put a caravan behind it and see what happens,I think it would struggle.

@Rogerdodger1246 6 ай бұрын

I just don’t get the point of the comparison w a barely modified old ranger

@harryhino2267 2 жыл бұрын

110Kph?? Max speed for a heavy vehicle is 100Kph!!!

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

Over 4500kg GVM it's 100, under it's posted speed imit. The Canter can be configured as over or under 4500kg, which is also the limit for a car licence.

@harryhino2267 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC The vehicle you were driving had "National Heavy Vehicle" plates, which means it has a GVM greater than 4500kg (probably 7500kg). The 100kph limit applies regardless of how much weight you are actually carrying. This also means you would need a LR licence (at a minimum) to drive it. If under 4500kg you could drive it on a car licence, however it wouldn't be fitted with "National Heavy Vehicle" plates. If people go down this path (de-rating a truck GVM), they need to consider what payload they are left with.

@L2SFBC 2 жыл бұрын

I have a HR manual license and we talked about 110 but didn't actually get there! Also driven other Canters at 110.

@harryhino2267 2 жыл бұрын

@@L2SFBC You might want to remove the text overlay at 4:20. "Reached limit of 110km/h" says to me you actually got to 110km/h.

@nudenut1916 Жыл бұрын

@@harryhino2267 I imagine your voice being the nasally parody that Jeremey Clarkson uses to describe the boffins that begin sentances with, "Well actually..."

@ianweal3081 Жыл бұрын

19.44. I call you out, no way a ranger & van @ 5.3 tonne ascends here without loosing speed. If so, absolutely no reason for ford to have spent so much development into a V6, who'd need it. I know the climb well, even a V6 @ 5.3 tonne would struggle to hold 100 ascending it, you're full of yourself. Yes the ranger is good, not that friggin good though.