If the point was that we were supposed to make our own part 3 for MGSV, then here's what I wanted to see: A final level playing as Venom in Outer Heaven as everything is breaking down. Radio chatter as guards go missing. You walking into the room you know is the only escape from the base after setting of a self destruct sequence. Then you're confronted by an unbeatable final boss: Solid Snake.

The one thing that always depressed me was (and pardon my bias here) the lack of his opportunity to fulfill the "Moby Dick" metaphor he was building in MGSV.

Peacewalker definitely was a prototype for MGSV

"Metal gear singlehandedly made video games a better medium" ...you're goddamn right

mgsv is actually just 3/4 game

To me MGSV was meant to be the clear transition from "tactical stealth espionage" to for lack of a better term "MGS villain simulator". The opening chapters have you go in "naked" in traditional mgs affair but soon you have a giant base. A metal gear. An army. A battle gear for field deployment. Ocelot. Quiet. Add in chicos concept design and you have 3/4 of a quirky miniboss squad. Maybe add in frank jaeger for good measure. This should have culminated in part 3 being the assault on zanzibar land. Rather than sneaking missions you deploy the full spectrum of your soldiers to claim the land that will be outer heaven for "metal gear" to show how far snake (and by extention the nature of the game have come)

Kojima really said “Fine I’ll do it myself” and made Peace Walker a masterpiece

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I never would have played Peace Walker if they didn't put it in the HD collection. But they did, so I was able to play it on XBOX360... and I was astounded at how good it was. One of the most pleasant surprises in my gaming career.

Honestly I think there's a lot of mistakes within the development of MGSV, having Chico unceremoniously offed when it felt as though there was serious setup for the character to find the peace he sought (and within the art books) was an injustice to the character and the games.

The amount of detail you put into this video, this is honestly like a documentary. I mean this as a huge compliment! I have watched over 3500 documentaries in my life (I know, it’s excessive, but it’s my hobby actually if I’m being honest and I have a goal of 10,000 by the time I’m 40 - 50 years old) and this is of superb quality! Truly the gold standard of what a KZfaq video can be if created by the right team or individual. I hope you take that as an enormous compliment because, I know more about documentaries and almost anybody ☺️🙌

I disagree with Portable Ops being a side show, without portable Ops, Snake running a Military group of his own seems to make no sense as you remove portable ops, the development of snake becoming a leader is gone, it goes from Snake being a usual 1 man solo OSP operation going to do an important mission to get some dude out (finishing his missions) and then after leaving, Snake instantly became a leader? with portable Ops it shows Snake learning how to be a leader, and ultimately it ties into Peacewalker anyway with the "crap" back in san hieronymo

Those VR missions from mgs1 was the best. The one where you have to pretend to be liquid to catch the guard who ate his pop sickle still cracks me up.

You also could've pointed how how Peace Walker and Phantom Pain were both Tactical Espionage Operations games in contrast to 1-4 being Tactical Espionage Action. Subtling showing how they were own games seperate from what 1-4 were trying to be. Edit: Really great video btw. I feel kinda bad that the comment is just a nitpick. This is a really unique analysis of these games.

I'm a simple man. I see a video about mgs, I watch it. You just earned another subscriber.

The "Walkman Trilogy" has accomplished one thing for sure... I really want a Walkman now.

Roses are red, Blueberries are blue, I'm big boss And so are you!

For those who don't know, although Snatcher was left originally at chapter 2 in PC88 and MSX, in its later incarnation for PC Engine CD, "Snatcher CD-Romantic", Kojima went back to it and a chapter 3 was added, closing up the story. If MGSV were developed a few years back, maybe a second release of MGSV would be possible, with added content. Such as it is, MGSV is in fact a complete work, but one that is very much a product of its circumstance.

I’m glad to finally see an analysis that touches upon the genius in mgs V. Most essays on it are very critical and harp on the unconventional narrative structure, focusing to much on what isn’t there instead of what is (which is ironic bc that’s the definition of a “phantom pain” and is sort of the whole point of that structure in the first place).

This essay just perfectly lays out why I love mgsv. It’s so nuanced, so easy to write off as shitty because its depth is not immediately apparent, yet if you devote yourself to thinking and searching and _listening,_ you’ll see that it really is a masterpiece, flawed though it may be.

I believe It was Yoji Shinkawa who suggested to Kojima that he should have weapon customization in mgsv

i just cant get enough of this game and wordy 30+ minute length videos about it

I loved every second of the video, great execution. I also suggest watching a video called "PT's Hidden Meaning" by the youtuber "TheGreatDebate". The video talks about why PT was made, and how it ties up to Kojima/Konami's split and how it might've affected MGSV, highly recommended for all yearning MGS fans out there.

I've put a lot of thought into these games, but I have to admit that your videos bring facts and perspectives that I was unaware of and had never considered. Definite sub.

„So they made the Fox engine. But let’s go back to the crusades...“ Futura Sound in a nutshell

I gotta say you explained everything with detail you got yourself a new follower

Great work man. Look forward to future work. I also love your explanation of the ruse, people consider nbgo and the ruse cruise to be the ramblings of psycopaths but it was clearly what Kojima intended. The fans were supposed to finish the story. Forced to deal with our own phantom pain.

Amazing to see an original take on this series. Love the work, love the angle, well done man!

Great work. With the title I thought this would be just another clickbait video with no real content, but man was I wrong. Love the breakdown. I look forward to more of your work

This game has aged well IMO. We've seen many games come along since this one, but very few have had the amount of replay value and easter eggs and detail, and the mix of the military management, free reign to take any approach you want to missions, but more importantly the control of the character, while not perfect, offered such an intricate and complex way to just move your character in the world, the whole prone ability was so well done, and there are so many clever little control scheme features that were put into this game. I actually think it might be harder to enjoy this game for hardcore fans, due to the Konami Kojima situation, the Ground Zeroes uncertainty/skepticism buildup that ruined the hype for TPP's launch, and the fact that it broke away from the traditional playing experience of MGS games and brought in a lot of influence from Western Triple A game development happening in the years leaving up to MGS5's development. For many, they expect a Kojima game to be an escape from the games they are used to, so the fact that it had systems very familiar to them may have been a big turnoff. However, it should be stated that MGS5 is actually a game that people who love Far Cry, Hitman, Watch Dogs 2, and a lot of other games, I bet you they have no idea just how much MGS5 has to offer a player like them. People who love the free openworld outpost capturing or assassination missions from games like FC, it's hard not to play FC5 for more than 25 hours before feeling like you've seen all there is to see, and wishing that there was more to it, a deeper movement system or just something else to do to add depth to the game. New Dawn attempted this and people loved it, but if you compare the Mother Base management to the base management in New Dawn, a Far Cry fan would be in his/her 'inner heaven' when they realize what MGS5 has for them. This game might actually be more underrated than people think. Despite the rocky road to release, and the total joke that MGS Online turned out to be, when you boil this down to its single player campaign and army building / stealth mastermind action movie star game that it really is at its core.... It holds up, and then some.

34:42 There were child soldiers in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake as well. Honestly, that's the only criticism I have for your full series, you did a great job.

Kojima: I would like 100 million dollars to fill the plot hole of how u killed big boss twice but hes still alive

Oh wow do I love your videos man, they're all excellent! Keep up the great work and you'll be huge in no time ☺

This makes me want Peace Walker remade in FOX engine

Great video. Despite what V ended up being, i have a great appreciation for Peace walker and the games that continued its formula. 4 had reached a point of fearure creep. Those games didnt necessarily cat stuff, but they did put things in order.

The way in which MGSV was split into two parts (GZ and TPP) reminded me of how its often done with the final season of a TV show like Breaking Bad or the Sopranos. Edit: Not to mention, MGSV was said by Kojima to have two themes (Race and Revenge) rather than the one we associate with each game. So it goes like: MGS1: Gene MGS2: Meme MGS3: Scene MGS4: Sense MGS PW: Peace MGSV GZ: Race MGSV TPP: Revenge

Looking back, now I realize why MGS5 feels so familiar. It's a direct rip from Peacewalker

I think the VR Missions were kinda underappreciated, there's not much discussion about them but it's a very fun segue into engine-driven gameplay not forced to conform to expectations of realism and storyboarding. My mom accidentally bought me the VR Missions instead of the main game when I started showing interest in the series, needless to say I was a little confused as to why nothing seemed to really line up with what I expected the story to be, I kept thinking this was a prequel Kojima-esque very long forced training intro and after I beat it I'd get the main game or something, similar to the start of Driver. My first experience with the Nikita was flying through digital tunnels, my first with the Stinger was shooting neon UFO's, and my first with Grey Fox was invisibly slice-and-dicing guards. Playing the real game was cathartic, seeing all of these tools and experiences put into actual play. But one thing did strike me was how limited the gameplay was in a lot of ways - the Nikita for example was basically only useful as a one-shot gimmick to take out the electrified hallway, the C4 was basically only used to gain access to Ocelot, and the Stinger basically only used against Liquid and Rex. The VR Missions got to fully explore the capabilities and limits of each of the weapons as well as the limitations of the controls and game engine at the time. Honestly the most sad thing about starting with the VR Missions before playing the main story was that the excellent soundtrack of the VR was nowhere to be found.

Incredibly well researched and delivered piece of work.

"The best is yet to come"

FuturaSound Productions is the Hideo Kojima of videos about Hideo Kojima! You are LEGEND, dude! Thank you, for all of your efforts.

Child soldiers have been a theme of the series since MG1, not MGS2. Great video as always through. Cheers!

Master class contents, I throughly enjoy every last one of you videos man, keep up the awesome work. Although it seems you don't consider MPO as a canon but I really wished you did an essay on that game since story and voice acting wise is on par with the rest if not better imo. Plus MPO is the foundation for MPW.

every mgs video i've seen is amazingly formulated and this video is no exception

I always kind of wanted the deployment of your own troops to be seen in the game not a mini globe that suggested the troops went there. Sort of how Just Cause had the implementation of rebels that you could be liberating a town with.

What's with "no one realized at the time that the GDC presentation was laying the foundation for the next Metal Gear"? Some of us definitely did lmao

it just sad that MGS5 never got there proper ending and i hope some day sony would convince Konami 2 give them/ partner with them 2 finish or make another MGS game, they currently in talk with them for another Silent Hill game

The 2012 PSP movie in the background is a great detail.

What a relief (3:35), thought you were gonna say the third game was MG Survive 😅

Amazing video!!!

I always saw Metal Gear as a part of MGSV, because thats where Ahab goes down with his ship. Thinking of the visual time jump and operation intrude N313 briefing at the end. So, MGSV is 4 games?

Great Video!

Good job. Great video.

What's the music in 41:24 ? anybody can tell?

that image at 1:44. I was thinking to myself "why not just go around it?"

I really don't get how spending so much time on explaining the lighting system is adding to your thesis statement, here. Very muddy script

Hey what song do you have playing at 41:05??

Keep doing mgs videos, you earned my sub

I'm a fan of mgs since, played the original mgs with playstation console first time in 1999. As a fan for a long time, in my opinion Peace Walker was one f the best in the series. It had the best story telling besides Metal Gear Solid 1. If one day Konami sell mgs to Sony, Kojima should make a remake of it with next gen graphics. This game deserves it.

Hey man Im liking your vids great job keep them up

Portable Ops is *technically* a mainline entry in some aspects, since MGS4's narrative briefly references the Portable Ops storyline at certain points.

Loving the in depth metal gear content.

Am I the only one still wondering what that Sony thing is at 4:06

Peace Walker is the true MGS5. There's a reason why Kojima insisted that Phantom Pain be MGSV.

mgs4 has the best gameplay in the series hands down and i LOVED the hidden control systems

What is the name of the song that play in the end?

The Fox engine is probably the greatest engine ever made. Shame that it will never be used again for anything worthwhile

Where do you get you MGS3 codec clips??

Can anyone let me know why there's 4 snakes at 6:34 and what game it's in

To bad Konami did not let the guy iron out the game to perfection. Still MGSV even in that half finished state its a masterpiece without a second. Hat off to Kojima, keep on keeping on bro.

ugh, reading the comment section makes me feel sad. it doesn't matter if mgsv is incomplete or not, the story is great or not. because, it wont matter anymore. with hideo resignation, the mg series is over and it doesn't matter if no one really need mgsv because there's no solid snake in it and it doesn't matter if konami or hideo failed to make the most of the game potential. the sight of people arguing about how this sequel is better than other sequel or prequel is a sad thing. let's just love every game, because probably this is the last time you and the whole world remember the metal gear series. ah, it's truly a pity that it will be the last. truly a pity. i wish i can know the fate of Quiet after mission 45 (if im correct)

I didn’t tear up during the conclusion, I swear.

What is the music at 41:25 from?

Dude, this is deep. I love it

One thing though, you are entirely wrong about Portable ops and to not include what the game did to the series is asinine. The entire motherbase system and recruiting staff game mechanic was created in potable ops (and spun off into portable ops +). Regard;less of how you feel about it, Kojima himself stated that MGSPO is canon (while some details not so much). Like a lot of what you do in Peace Walker and Phantom Pain clearly has it's roots in Portable ops, both story and mechanics.

Despite MGSV not being a complete game. It still manages to be far above most of the competition. Had he been given the budget and time he needed to trouly bring to life his idea for this project i believe MGSV could have been the best in the series. And not only that, one of the best games ever made. MGSV holds a near and dear place in my heart no matter tho. But Metal Gear Solid atleast left behind a Legacy like few others. If any... Ever since MGS1 Kojima has pushed the industry into new directions with this series. And denying the mark this franchise has left on the industry is wimply lying to yourself and others. It's not about your love or hate for the franchise. It's what it's all done for gaming in every aspect. From inventing a genre to evolving it and pushing it. To being the first to trouly see the potential of the medium and actually taking it there. The first to take it's story seriously enough to give it the love and care it needed. Being one fot eh first to relise the importance of music in a game. Pushing inovate new ideas to the very end. MGSV still to this day i can say is probably one of the best looking games we've ever had. And that's true for both generations it came out on. Kojima put a next gen game on a last gen system. Ground Zeroes is still one of the most mind blowing games visually i've ever seen. It's such a shame that engine is going to waste over at KONAMI right now. Imagine what Death Stranding could have been with the Fox Engine? That was a engine Kojima knew 100%. It was built from the ground up to be exactly what he needed it to be. I think if he still had it we would see things that would be beyond anyones imagination. But what ever... I'm glad Kojima is free to do his things now. Death Stranding was a masterpice. And i can't wait to see what he does next. But that opening to Ground Zeroes tho... Still one of my all time favorite openings to any game.

They forgot release metal gear 6 where Big Boss will come back to Venom Snake to meet him.

What a video bro... Geniuses

Great video there’s something so interesting about the MGS games, a lot of themes and ideas in the series it’s great that people like you are able to express your analysis of them, they add a lot of context and depth when actually playing though them

i am the solo proponent of the narrative that Silent Hills/P.T. lives on in the form of hidden content and that both MGSV and Death Stranding have enough hidden content to form the skeleton of what would have been

Excellent vid. Have any thoughts on Death Stranding?

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What’s the song at 4:02??

Found you channel and I'm loving it. I'm a lifelong Metal Gear fan and Love the detail you give about the series and the games. Keep up the great work.

You're your own MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD

What happened between 32:29 and 32:32? It sounded as though you made an editing error.

Love to see MGS 1 & 2 remake

PW with MGSV graphics would be lovely. Loved PW

After having played Metal Gear Solid 4 countless times, Metal Gear Solid 5 just feels like a let down. Damn, man. I really want to enjoy myself playing the game but it just wasn’t as interesting to me as I really hoped. MGS4, with it’s play on camouflage and pseudo open area (but still linear), just knocked it out of the park and the weapon customization alongside the staple M4 you get from the weapon launderer is just amazing. Not to forget the flashbacks feature and character development. They all grasp your attention and just feel like they’re supposed to be there. MGSV’s characters are not interesting, nor are they engaging as the previous game. They’re just “there”. The ambiance was ok I guess in MGSV but the music was superb. All in all, Not my favorite ending to my favorite franchise. I almost shed a tear when I first played it because I expected so so so so much more than a Fulton simulator. Sorry for the rant I just really love this franchise; and to me, this wasn’t a finale I hoped to get. #RemasterMGS4

Chapter 3 where is that?

Name the soundtrack at 21:19

I think the assertion of the "not shadows" being an intentional display of the games reality bending horror elements is insanely naive. It seems far more likely that the engine has more trouble rendering precise, high poly count, physics based objects. It can cast natural shadows on the environment because its lower poly relatively and static. Vehicles are pretty basic shapes and though they move physically they are mostly static. Character models are high poly but bone based, their movement is limited. Hair in games however is rendered much differently, being layered sprites, not really an actual model, and then the whole thing, atleast in these "realistic" games, reacts to the physics with jiggle bones. It would be the hardest thing to render and that's why it doesn't. It doesn't feel like an artistic choice, it feels like a necessary oversight the tech crew couldn't solve. A little weird that they didn't have a low poly invisble static hairpiece that would be used to cast the shadows, but they didn't do that, so I don't know, perhaps part of that final layer of polish that the game never got.

That fox engine is so good

In my eyes metal gear solid 5 is peacewalker, ground zeroes, and the phantom pain. Hell peacewalker was originally going to be named metal gear solid 5, but konami dismissed that idea because they didnt want a mainline game on a portable device instead of a console.

MGSI did too. Its was just greatly expanded upon in mgsiii. Remember the psycho-mantis part? Definitely fucking with the players mind...:)

Definitely a remake of portable ops would be something driving the recruitment trick everywhere playing as Naked Snake big boss imagine the boss battles between python gene Ursula course much more content would be added

Usually Kojima made MGS games like if they were the last one in the series, but even back then I felt like Peace Walker was leading up to something else (not the OG Metal Gear), guess that one was the first he actually planned for a sequel and probably already had an outline for it in production.

Ok i know this is from 2019 but the thing is THERE IS NO Metal Gear 5... It's Metal Gear V. It's not a roman numeral, it's the LETTER V And that's a very fucking important point for the story.

Never be game over!!

Man I fuggin miss my PSP