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The Metal Gear Game Everyone Forgot Exists

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Max Derrat

Max Derrat

Күн бұрын

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@Itoldajokeonce
@Itoldajokeonce Ай бұрын
If Portable Ops really is that small, there’s no reason it couldn’t be a “Chapter 1” to Peace Walker’s “Chapter 2” and put them in the same game.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
nah
@PalladinPoker
@PalladinPoker Ай бұрын
PO, PW, and GZ-V are really a trilogy
@alwayslast8900
@alwayslast8900 Ай бұрын
@@PalladinPokercontroversial but true
@Antonhannel
@Antonhannel Ай бұрын
Heall no. It's not that small to be a chapter of PW. Plus PO should be more established as it's own game and of the main reason for that not even the story but just the gameplay wise
@Freelancer837
@Freelancer837 Ай бұрын
The reason it can't is because Portable Ops is good unlike Peace Walker
@scapeagoat2520
@scapeagoat2520 Ай бұрын
They need to remake the original Metal Gear 1 and 2
@user-uy4mx4nw7m
@user-uy4mx4nw7m Ай бұрын
If they do so and bungle that with MGS1 that could serve as enough for a game.
@Brandon_Powell
@Brandon_Powell Ай бұрын
I would love a Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 remake with Kiefer Sutherland as Big Boss and David Hayter as Solid Snake.
@BKopps
@BKopps Ай бұрын
here's to hoping one day that MG + MG2 Solid Snake get that treatment.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Ай бұрын
Absolutely 110% agree with you. I just have zero faith that that will be what Konami chooses to do next.
@jojosendmyregardsaquinodeo4056
@jojosendmyregardsaquinodeo4056 Ай бұрын
msx with fox engine....it feels aweosome to dream
@TaigaXsenpai
@TaigaXsenpai Ай бұрын
As for what happened to Gene money.... Lets remember that MSF was not completely without equipment at the start. They had weapons and helicopters. Also they still had money. Just because Zadornov gave them better hideout doesnt mean they were without equipment and resources
@goombah8771
@goombah8771 Ай бұрын
Plus you know he somehow transforms that tiny rundown offshore plant into a massive military nation in a few months with somehow no money at all. In V you have to spend a lot of gmp to expand mother base, but in PW other struts just spout out suddenly with no money loss. Maybe that's what the army's heaven money is going towards.
@federicoricca2512
@federicoricca2512 Ай бұрын
It's also implied right at the end that the money went to fund Foxhound, so that would explain where most of the money went
@fgdj2000
@fgdj2000 Ай бұрын
My head canon was, that he added the money to Cipher/ Patriots and when he left, they of course kept the money.
@backtoklondike
@backtoklondike 3 күн бұрын
And Kaz does mention the base needed some repairs and cleaning up to do too. And the base was pretty big too, like it is small compared how it ends up being at the endgame but it wasn't like a shed out in the ocean. So the costs of the reconstructions would be a lot too.
@groofay
@groofay Ай бұрын
"But that's not realistic!" "...Have you played any Metal Gear game?"
@NijiharaKaito0
@NijiharaKaito0 Ай бұрын
Or... "Nanomachines, son!"
@Adjudicus
@Adjudicus Ай бұрын
Portable ops is way more realistic than peace walker
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
​​@@AdjudicusAnd Peace walker is a better game with better story and better gameplay and better characters and more fun. Portable Ops was a side story prototype.
@Adjudicus
@Adjudicus Ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 lmao no it's not, it turned big boss into a bumbling fool, had a really bad story that didn't fit with the series at all. Portable Ops was much closer to the mainline in terms of style and story
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
​@@AdjudicusI believe you're the bumbling fool that failed to understand Big Boss's character. you probably never played any of the Mgs games I bet Poop is your first game that is sad. 😂
@mateusgreenwood1096
@mateusgreenwood1096 Ай бұрын
You're the first person on youtube to not only remember portable ops but also to treat it with such appreciation.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
game plays like ass is what I remember and dogshit story.
@KahosSaint
@KahosSaint Ай бұрын
That's just not true. There are plenty videos about this game.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
@@KahosSaint Too bad most of them can't help but shit on MGS4, MGS peacewalker and MGS5 because their headcanon didn't come true.
@clipsdelosmajes
@clipsdelosmajes Ай бұрын
I never forget. Literally install and setup the PSP emulator purely and solely for Portable Ops.
@dantesparda8524
@dantesparda8524 Ай бұрын
Fr, I bought and modded a new PSP just to play portable ops with good controls. And peace walker, but I play that on xbox (PPSSPP controls are okay but not great on phone, and I don't wanna carry a controller with me everywhere I go)
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
Thats a sad waste of time but okay. lmao
@clipsdelosmajes
@clipsdelosmajes Ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429??? Installing emulators is now sad?
@dantesparda8524
@dantesparda8524 Ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 your a real bastard, you know that?
@snake1mi
@snake1mi Ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 Installing an emulator and playing your favorite rom with high res is sad and waste of time?
@aaronskuse2207
@aaronskuse2207 Ай бұрын
I think a Halo MCC style of game would fit; a launcher that takes you to a menu, a list of games that can be updated over time with each remake getting added. It won’t matter how short some of the remakes are if the entire saga can be played within a single launcher. It would feel like a base game with larger titles getting supported with large expansions, not multiple small titles hodgepodged together.
@shawnjackson3764
@shawnjackson3764 Ай бұрын
They could also add all variations of MGO, and possibly add a new one.
@Freelancer837
@Freelancer837 Ай бұрын
No. MCC is literally a blueprint how not to do a collection of old games in every sense, as it's to this day still a broken pile of trash. We got lucky enough that they didn't try bundling any of Master Collection together more than just MG1 and MG2
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster Ай бұрын
MGSV: TPP also confirms in a cassete tape that Portable Ops is canon. Ocelot talks about his big scene in Portable Ops with Big Boss.
@noctsickversus9632
@noctsickversus9632 Ай бұрын
More like an easter egg
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster Ай бұрын
@@noctsickversus9632 No it's not. It's literally a important lore detail.
@noctsickversus9632
@noctsickversus9632 Ай бұрын
@@misterhoobomaster what about the whole kojima is not anymore with konami and the game itself isn't whar should 've been stuff? You know the whole principle of a dead saga. Cause metal gear iS ENDED with mgs4. Mgs5 should not even exists. Kojima is just a money maker AFTER mgs4
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster Ай бұрын
@@noctsickversus9632 What does that have to do with anything I just said?
@hattoripool1533
@hattoripool1533 Ай бұрын
@@noctsickversus9632that’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You Metal Gear fans love to make every excuse not to have Portable Ops as canon
@yukiutaware1064
@yukiutaware1064 Ай бұрын
Speaking of forgotten... Metal Gear Acid 1 and 2
@subtledemisefox
@subtledemisefox 27 күн бұрын
I want to like those games, but the stealth aspect still eludes me for some reason. When I'm not getting absolutely obliterated during even the first few missions, I enjoyed playing them.
@saschaberger3212
@saschaberger3212 Ай бұрын
Remember: it's Konami. Don't fall for it again or there can't be any more excuses. Wait for the ratings, don't pre order. Be smart
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Ай бұрын
Preach.
@Slavic_Snake
@Slavic_Snake Ай бұрын
but in order for raitings to exist, people must buy and play it
@seansquiers6506
@seansquiers6506 Ай бұрын
​@@Slavic_SnakeAnd you don't have to be one of those people
@jarrmann
@jarrmann Ай бұрын
People with extra$70 that needs to be spent on something right away*
@danielmisenhelter
@danielmisenhelter Ай бұрын
Not to mention all the KZfaq channels that will get the game for free lol
@Bertaut
@Bertaut Ай бұрын
What's going on with Portable Ops? In the last 12 months there's been major retrospectives from Christian Cryers, thevoicebox, Chole, Gaming Pastime, Keiv Reviews Things, and now Max Derrat!!! It's awesome to see the game getting such coverage; such an unfairly forgotten gem. Yeah, the controls on the PSP made it borderline unplayable, but playing it on an emulator now, it plays pretty much identical to MGS3: Subsistence, and it looks damn good too.
@Alfrays
@Alfrays Ай бұрын
I would love to play a remake of PO. The story could be tweaked a little, and expanded upon. I would add a hub in the middle of San Hieronimo, so that Snake and the other soldiers could actually feeroam the peninsula while completing main and side quests. I would add a creepy boss fight with Ursula in which the player should be forced to physically attack her to demage her, while she floats around, in a vertical arena, throwing stuff. I would put a countdown that forces the player to finish the story before the end of 1970, otherwise there is a cinematic game over(and after the game over, there would be a new game + with all the previous upgrades to speed up the new run). And then i would add a chapter covering the firsts official foxhound missions, where Snake saves Eva in Hanoi, and then splits from Cypher, escaping in south America. Playing as Foxhoud would allow to add an endless coop missions system similar to PO+.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
A remake would be better than a shitty remaster of a bad game.
@HUNK_TZ
@HUNK_TZ Ай бұрын
Maybe they could remake Peace Walker BUT add portable ops as flashback side missions (missions that you can get bonuses after playing them like snake tales)
@doclouis4236
@doclouis4236 Ай бұрын
The team behind the Metal Gear Solid 1 remake could just expand upon on the original gameplay by adding more content and bigger areas to explore, almost like Resident Evil 4 remake, except while maintaining the feel of the original without changing the cutscenes like how Twin Snakes made it more bombastic.
@saintfayde4438
@saintfayde4438 Ай бұрын
Damn, I thought this was gonna be about Acid
@EJaDav
@EJaDav Ай бұрын
Same lol
@mikemcmullen5006
@mikemcmullen5006 Ай бұрын
I was expecting ghost babel. It's a pretty good game, except for that box maze. The game boy color was pretty limited though, so the prone button was the start button, something Ive never seen a game do before
@erickpadron155
@erickpadron155 Ай бұрын
Me too
@grandmastercadillac9052
@grandmastercadillac9052 Ай бұрын
@@mikemcmullen5006Ghost Babel is so underrated
@robij3475
@robij3475 Ай бұрын
@@mikemcmullen5006 ghost babel was probably one of the best games of the gameboy color, and a very good mgs game. It was my first mgs game, and made me fall in love with the series.
@hunterhancock5221
@hunterhancock5221 Ай бұрын
Peace Walker is my favorite. It has always been. it's just so replayable for me Love the boss fights, your own metal gear customization, and that you could play as someone you capture
@giordanogarduno9207
@giordanogarduno9207 Ай бұрын
I liked it good enough but i coudnt finish it bc i didnt had friends to play with, nor wanted to grind the missions to unlock the fun stuff. I disliked so much that half the missions are filler to lock you out of progressing the development tree, let alone fighting the same tank 20 times. 20. Not even exagerating, maybe downplaying bc it could easily have been 25. I would have loved to see pw remade on Fox engine
@hunterhancock5221
@hunterhancock5221 Ай бұрын
@giordanogarduno9207 if you are playing nonleathal with Stealth you can take out the troops and folten, then when there are no troops left the driver sticks his head out and can be put to sleep with a sleep dart for a win with getting to keep the tank and the people without having a hard fight, also engineers who drive have high stats for R&D so it helps get the gear you need
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
@@giordanogarduno9207 Skill issue
@joeking6972
@joeking6972 Ай бұрын
Anyone complaining about lack of realism in an MGS game needs to get off the internet.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake Ай бұрын
I assumed Big Boss used the money to help fund the Patriots. My idea for an MPO remake was always to have a large open map that expands each existing map into a large sections of the peninsula. You'd eventually move to capturing bases to accommodate more troops, with a risk of enemy inspections afterwards exposing them and forcing you to head over and help defend the base from the enemy assault. And support troops actually appear on the map. Maybe you're about to infiltrate the hospital, so you head to a nearby ridge where your support unit is stationed to retrieve some supplies. And once you're down there, if they have a sniper among them, they can provide cover like Quiet in MGSV.
@RhenishHelm
@RhenishHelm Ай бұрын
I would say the Acid games are even less well remembered than Portable Ops. I don't need remakes of them, but I would like to see Konami port them to Steam. Also, regarding the PO plot, the "Ghost" twist was originally quite silly, but in the context of MGSV, where XOF was cleaning up after Snake during MGS3, it's more plausible that Skull Face captured him before the destruction of Grozny Grad.
@SaltedMallows
@SaltedMallows Ай бұрын
This video needed to happen, now talk about PeaceWalker again for the people in the back that claim they love MGS3 but never played Peacewalker.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
Instead they played that awful game Poop.
@frenchfriesfan2005
@frenchfriesfan2005 Ай бұрын
It was so cool that if MGSV detected that you had Portable Ops save data in the PSP, it would automatically give you Invisible by Duran Duran instead of forcing you to unlock it in Chapter 3
@Idiotboxxx
@Idiotboxxx Ай бұрын
I wanna see a Peace Walker Remake that has a MGS5 style map, multiplayer, and the side op missions be realized, observed, and result in the open world simulation. bring the story w vo and mocap too
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 Ай бұрын
Just combine Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain into one epic remake.
@GuyOnAChair
@GuyOnAChair Ай бұрын
2:20 Portable Ops is not canon, it was, keyword *was*. They still showed the Saga canon/timeline (Kojimas own timeline) on Konami's Metal Gear - Hotline which was TWO days ago as of this comments posting. Okamura, the star of the video was heavily involved in Portable Ops and yet it was not added there. I'm not saying Konami won't ever make Metal Gear Solid 7: Metal Gear and eventually add to or throw out Kojimas own timeline, but what I am saying is factually Portable Ops has not been canon for longer than it's ever been canon at this rate. Who knows, maybe one day they'll remake/reimagine it and it will be but it's not yet. It's frustrating to see a lack of research whenever POPS comes up and I say this as someone that has enjoyed their time with it and put 100's of hours into POPS and POPS+.
@dissidentwolf5939
@dissidentwolf5939 Ай бұрын
That doesn't really matter, since PO is directly referred to in Peace Walker, so regardless of whether it's noted anywhere it has to be canon. Unless you're arguing Peace Walker isn't canon either.
@GuyOnAChair
@GuyOnAChair Ай бұрын
@@dissidentwolf5939 Ghost Babel is shown and mentioned all throughout MGS2. Is it canon? No. Metal Gear Solid Mobile/Metal Gear Solid Touch is shown in Ground Zeroes Dejavu and Jamais Vu. Is it canon? No. Is ACID canon because of being teased about in the intro or having characters unlockable in Portable Ops? No.
@mobiusraptor7
@mobiusraptor7 Ай бұрын
@@GuyOnAChair Well...declaring PO to be non-canon just leaves lots of plot holes. "What's Snake doing in Colombia?" Play PO. "Where did MSF get all that money?" Play PO. "What was that 'crap in San Hieronymo'?" Play PO. "How did FOXHOUND form?" Play PO. I could go on.
@GuyOnAChair
@GuyOnAChair Ай бұрын
@@mobiusraptor7 1) Big Boss took a job working for the Colombian Government where he met and recruited Kaz who was working for the Rebels. Prior to meeting him he drifted aimlessly. This is literally in the game. 2) Snake and Miller built their scrappy organization with their own two hands. Miller made it more organized and they got rich/wealthy over the events of PW. They didn't start with a small loan of a billion dollars. That said, at the end of MGS3 Snake still has the real legacy which was hidden in his back pocket which he reveals while listening to Eva's tape (she got a fake of it and Ocelot mentions this after the credits) and this is not mentioned in Portable Ops ever. Off screen MGS4 implies Zero was given this and when Big Boss disagreed with him he wen't his own way. 3) "Finally we can leave that crap in San Hieronymo behind us and break into the mercenary buisness for real." is literally a fourth wall break to disregard that game. It doesn't matter outside of the meta humor but even then it simply implies Snake and Kaz had been elsewhere in the past which is impossible given the timeline like with Cambell, who outside POPS makes no mentions of ever being side by side with Big Boss. 4) FOXHOUND's formation is reffered to in text in MGS3's credits as being in 1971, FOX's formation is offscreen before 3, and even POPS doesn't technically show it either. The original ending cut from POPS did have him found it though, yet the final game shows him with a FOXHOUND patch on his beret a year before it existed. Then again this is the same game that's final ending has an image of Snake with two eyes unless thats meant to be David. Extra point: days ago in a live video demomstration advertising the Snake Eater remake the timeline showed every Kojima MGS title and not Portable Ops or Revengence even though said presenter worked on Portable Ops. It saddens me when people don't know the story or do any research. (Btw I liked POPS)
@mobiusraptor7
@mobiusraptor7 Ай бұрын
@@GuyOnAChair I'm not trying to get a "gotcha" moment here. I'm just saying that IMO POPS does a better job of continuing MGS3 than PW (yet PW gave a better closure to the series than MGSV lmao) #1 - Doesn't explain how he ended up in Colombia. At the end of POPS, Snake says he needs a reason to fight. So yeah, fighting FARC guerillas in Colombia is the closest in proximity. #2 - I was referring to the film Gene had in the ending, not the Legacy. Gene's film had all the data on money and equipment. How did Snake and Miller start from ragtag mercs to have multiple UH-1 Hueys, AAV-7A1s and a landing craft all within the month of November 1974? #3 - I don't know if you can consider 4th wall statements to be canon. If my base of operations was a half-assed Soviet missile base, I'd call that "crap" too. Also, Campbell did say he fought with Big Boss in MG1. #4 - "the final game shows him with a FOXHOUND patch on his beret a year before it existed" Considering the time in POPS can be advanced up to the 1971 (beyond that it says "TIME PARADOX"), then FOXHOUND's formation is right on time.
@0oSOTARKo0
@0oSOTARKo0 Ай бұрын
Fireman’s carry from TPP, would be an easy fix for dragging. You’d still have to carry them to a truck but it would be faster and you could still use one handed weapons.
@TheNomade5
@TheNomade5 Ай бұрын
Portable Ops has always been one of my favorite MGS games story wise! There's a lot of really powerful scenes that I remember to this day.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
hmm I don't remember nothing important at all other than massive plot holes.
@mobiusraptor7
@mobiusraptor7 Ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 PO is basically if MGS1 starred Big Boss. Gene is basically the Boss' twin.
@liquidsnake5881
@liquidsnake5881 Ай бұрын
​@@phantombigboss8429I dont remember nothing about MGSV except a fake big boss beta cuckold keeping his mouth still while being told what to do by Ocelot and Miller. You know nothing about a good Metal Gear game or writing that doesnt cater to your lolicon fetishes.
@DirtMaguirk
@DirtMaguirk Ай бұрын
I honestly want a game or series focusing on Gray Fox starting from the beginning...adoption of Naomi, the affair with Natasha/Gustava, the corruption during MG1/MG2, the genome expirements, MGS1.
@BadassRaiden
@BadassRaiden Ай бұрын
I remember at the time PO came out I didnt have the money for it, but I did when PO+ came out. I bought it thinking it was OP AND a new online multiplayer feature. Turns out it was ONLY an online multiplayer game, and I was none too impressed.
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 Ай бұрын
They also need to make an MGS game focused on the war between Big boss and Zero that was mentioned from mgs4
@theengineer9910
@theengineer9910 Ай бұрын
thats what phantom pain should have been.
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 Ай бұрын
@@theengineer9910 Yep. Now with Kojima gone i don’t know who else could do that storyline.
@Pablojunior2006
@Pablojunior2006 Ай бұрын
Maybe a game about snake and raiden going after the patriots between 2 and 4 could be nice too
@theengineer9910
@theengineer9910 Ай бұрын
@@Pablojunior2006 ya that could explain why raiden has to go into hiding
@adamfrost8313
@adamfrost8313 Ай бұрын
​@@theengineer9910the Real MGS 5😢
@Anon-gq4xw
@Anon-gq4xw Ай бұрын
Honestly, they did bring up MGO recently on a production episode. They could remake Portable Ops as the designated "Metal Gear Online Saga" game. It still will have the campaign and essentially just with a modern coat of paint or even make it a Peace Walker lite. But instead of slapping MGO on every new game, you could have PO be the online game.
@BayaRae
@BayaRae Ай бұрын
I'd prefer they combine Portal Ops with Peace Walker since they're basically the same story and both a prelude to MGS5. (Plus neither is strong enough to be standalone stories.)
@danielbeckman6742
@danielbeckman6742 Ай бұрын
Like the tanker and plant missions of mgs2, or GZ and tpp in mgsv
@BayaRae
@BayaRae Ай бұрын
No, what I mean is combine the stories entirely in a remake. (As well as Ground Zeroes, now that I think about it.)
@kami_97
@kami_97 Ай бұрын
Like make a single game where PO is chapter one and PW chapter two or smth?
@BayaRae
@BayaRae Ай бұрын
No, combine the stories entirely. You can do the same with Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2.
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 Ай бұрын
At that point you should also combine Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain
@GameBoyPL1991
@GameBoyPL1991 Ай бұрын
The problem with "is it canon or not" is that Konami just doesn't get to decide that without Kojima.
@sebastiansanhueza9601
@sebastiansanhueza9601 Ай бұрын
The canon issue is just childish fandom. Does it fundamentally contradict the main games? No? It fits then. These questions have come about only because some fans take themselves to be some sort of Kojima purists and feel that they "owe" him to acknowledge or reject certain games. One of the many problems with this is that nobody could acknowledge any MG game after Kojima passes away.
@TakeYourTimeSlowly
@TakeYourTimeSlowly Ай бұрын
Portable Ops is Canon, I'm pretty sure Kojima made future metal gear games with Portable Ops story in mind and it heavily reference in the future games. That should make Portable Ops Canon but for some reason, Kojima says it isn't because he didn't make it? But he basically stolen a lot from it.
@Pablojunior2006
@Pablojunior2006 Ай бұрын
@@sebastiansanhueza9601portable ops does contradict peace walker
@sebastiansanhueza9601
@sebastiansanhueza9601 Ай бұрын
@@TakeYourTimeSlowly Right! Besides this, it never quite made sense to me that Snake went from idealist rookie to leader of a rogue nation only because some slimy government dude was a pain in the ass throughout Peace Walker - after all, he still fights for America in the PW showdown. It makes so much more sense if he's betrayed by the White House first (MGS3), then by the FBI (PO), and finally by the CIA (PW). Pretty much the whole deep state tries to screw him over. That being the case, sure, bring on Outer Heaven.
@sebastiansanhueza9601
@sebastiansanhueza9601 Ай бұрын
@@Pablojunior2006 How? And please mention a substantive way in which contradict each other, not something along the lines of: this character gaves this small detail that doesn't match with this other tiny thing this other charavmcter said in this other game. I'm talking about a MG1-MG2 type of contradiction (before MGSV solved that, that is).
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 Ай бұрын
Justice for Portable Ops! ❤
@MegaSolidninja
@MegaSolidninja Ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
Poop the dumpster fire of a game.
@KahosSaint
@KahosSaint Ай бұрын
​@@phantombigboss8429For real, I would rather play Survive.
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 Ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 You are a sad person. I hope you find love, someday.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
@@igodreamer7096 nothing sadder than liking Poop and eating it. lmao
@Ivotas
@Ivotas Ай бұрын
While I wouldn't mind a Portable Ops remake, to me there's only one answer to what games need a remake the most: the two OG Metal Gear games. The events there are so pivotal to everything that's been happening in the series. I mean that's the games where Solid Snake actually fought Big Boss. IMO there is no higher rank match up in the entire series yet we are stuck with that dated encounter.There's a guy here on KZfaq who's remaking the first game as an anime and he really manages quite well to a tense athmosphere worthy of the events. If you watch that and then watch what it actually refers to in the game, you cannot help but wish you got a remake from the ground up.
@forresthunter1483
@forresthunter1483 Ай бұрын
A Max Derrat MGS video is just what the doctor ordered to fight an annoying bout of covid. And it’s about the underrated Portable Ops? You’re a gem of a man, Max.
@Attivian
@Attivian Ай бұрын
If they keep the truck as the extraction method, then a different animation to carry should be used, like a fireman carry or an over the shoulder. Leaving one hand open for a pistol. Makes it faster. Keep the drag for other things but if you want to take them, then you do the alternate carry.
@luciengaiseric2768
@luciengaiseric2768 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite things about Portable Ops was the possibility of playing with several characters. I hope that if they ever did a remake, they could maintain this characteristic.
@element1111
@element1111 Ай бұрын
Always liked the simplistic ink-line comic style drawings that comprised Portable's cutscenes. Even made me try and get into concept art back in the day. Would be interesting to see what they could do with it in the modern day, that's for sure.
@dennisneculcea437
@dennisneculcea437 Ай бұрын
The fact that Konami decided to remake the 3rd chapter first, makes me think they want to remake the whole series chronologically
@lexradu
@lexradu Ай бұрын
10:54 i believe there's a middle ground to be found here, and that is how you'd rescue POWs in Ground Zeroes, by carrying them on your back while still being able to run and shoot with your handgun. It could also serve as a "bridge" mechanic between MGS Delta (picking up the bodies also on your back, but just to hide them) and a possible Peace Walker Remake (making the fulton feel like an earned natural evolution mechanic, bringing this trilogy full circle back to Phantom Pain)
@technodude458
@technodude458 Ай бұрын
as someone who played portable ops i didn’t know boxes were a thing for extracting enemies
@Slychosis.
@Slychosis. Ай бұрын
Why is Ghost Babel not on these lists if Portable Ops is as far as semi canonicity. Would Ghost Babel be a possibility of a remake? Truly the MGS game time forgot
@alexh2790
@alexh2790 Ай бұрын
Ghost Babel is trickier because it ignores even MG2 and also has Snake acting like it's the first time he's meeting Mei Ling. That game isn't even trying to be line with the main series.
@ko873
@ko873 Ай бұрын
In game-story, Ghost Label is the "Shadow Moses VR" that Raiden did before being approved to do the mission of MGS2.
@MegaSolidninja
@MegaSolidninja Ай бұрын
​@@ko873mental gymnastics
@mikemcmullen5006
@mikemcmullen5006 Ай бұрын
Because its an alternative version of snake, it's like acid, neither of them are cannon and would confuse new fans that ∆ will bring in
@alexh2790
@alexh2790 Ай бұрын
@ko873 I get what you're trying to say given the easter egg in the game, but clearly that's not the case. Unless Raiden is ignorant enough to belive Alaska is tropical 😋
@Flynnsdaflynner
@Flynnsdaflynner Ай бұрын
I know they’ll never do it but I want them to bring back the og theme form portable ops, or at least try to do a new version with the current theme
@GreenWhiteRedBrown8967
@GreenWhiteRedBrown8967 Ай бұрын
In response to chapter 5, before or after knocking out an enemy, pause the game and see the closest hiding spots. Drag the character next to the nearest hiding spot, change characters, then call it in using the second character. Multiple soldiers can be dragged next to the same spot and be called in at the same time. About the hiding spots, sometimes it matters if you are indoors or outdoors. I remember at on the 1st level(the prison), if you are on the catwalk there is one hiding spot, but you enter the building 3 steps away that hiding spot disappears and there are others available. Be careful to not leave a body on top of the hiding spot because it becomes unusable so move the body a little. Also, this should be done after the recruitment codec number is unlocked. Unlocking the codec number is finicky. If an enemy is is already in right radius of the hiding character but the codec number isn't unlocked yet, the enemy must be dragged out and then into the radius for the event to trigger and to unlock the number. This game does not properly teach how good the recruitment can be and I think it took a bit of experimentation for me to find this for myself. Out of the 4 guides on Gamefaqs, only katastrophe had this tip. After playing and finishing this game last year, I couldn't find one KZfaq guide or reviewer who knew about this. Honestly, I am laughing a little bit at 9:50 because I know precisely which corner in that building you could have dragged that enemy to, for some reason this information seems to be rare or at least I could barely find it.
@stephenlanuto5993
@stephenlanuto5993 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Max, for giving me the image of snake playing Operation while wearing oven mitts
@matt2centerback
@matt2centerback Ай бұрын
>Unify Portable Ops and PO+ into a single game, with PO+'s soldier progression linked to the base game's >add cross-progression that lets you carry over PO/PO+ soldiers into Peace Walker >unrelated to Portable Ops but ADD PROPER CO-OP INTO MGSV, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. KONAMI, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO MAKE NEW ASSETS, JUST HAVE THE ENEMIES SCALE IN NUMBER/EQUIPMENT/BOTH ACCORDING TO THE DIFFICULTY OF THE MISSION CHOSEN AND THE PLAYER COUNT. AN INGAME JUSTIFICATION IS ALREADY BUILT-IN, YOU COULD LITERALLY JUST HAVE US PLAY AS THE MOTHER BASE SOLDIERS VENOM SNAKE DEPLOYS FROM HIS iDROID TO SABOTAGE SUPPLY LINES.
@solid_salsa
@solid_salsa Ай бұрын
I mean I don't tend to the remember acid or ghost babel for the same reason PO is (rightfully) forgotten. All canon games that had been released were on the PS3 Legacy collection.
@DoubleO88
@DoubleO88 Ай бұрын
Sokolov just needs to be a body double or a young decoy octopus at this point.
@pasalasaga
@pasalasaga Ай бұрын
• Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops • Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker • Metal Gear Solid • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty • Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots • Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - Director's Cut (Kojima involved) • "Metal Gear" or "Metal Gear Solid 0: Outer Heaven" (Kojima Involved) I don't think most of this is necessary really.
@Twy87
@Twy87 Ай бұрын
On the topic of a 'Game Everyone Forgot Exists', would you ever consider looking at the ending speech in 'Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs' (2013) in relation to 'most profound' moments in videogames?
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Ай бұрын
I think it will happen at some point. Just not sure when.
@Grei_Undyne
@Grei_Undyne Ай бұрын
Considering both take place in the same region, POPs and Peace Walker can be combined so that POPs is the prologue and Peace Walker is the main game.
@bluekashus2499
@bluekashus2499 Ай бұрын
As an oldhead MGS fan, I never forgot about this game, I just couldn't justify buying a handheld game system for just one game. Money was tight in those days and I spent most of my money purchasing the next Play Station or building a new PC.
@mgsemers
@mgsemers Ай бұрын
I keep rewatching your mgs2 documentary’s, it’s really good
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Ай бұрын
Ayyyy! Thanks mate!
@aureateseigneur5317
@aureateseigneur5317 Ай бұрын
Ooooor just remake Metal Gear 1&2. They need it more then any other game. It let's player be Solid Snake again, something they've been wanting for decades, and brings those two games up to par with the rest. Metal Gear 1&2.
@gunbladelad7772
@gunbladelad7772 Ай бұрын
Everyone REALLY forgets Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel...
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 Ай бұрын
Exactly. I also want more alternate timeline Metal Gear Solid in general. Maybe a story written by Yoko Taro in his own version of the Metal Gear universe.
@michaelmiller4105
@michaelmiller4105 Ай бұрын
The reason there’s no Fulton system is because portable ops came out in 2006 and peace walker came 4 years later so Kojima hadn’t come up with the idea yet.
@maxkoob
@maxkoob Ай бұрын
the MGS series seems to split into two quadrologies. The first Quadrology is all about Big Boss. MGS3: SNAKE EATER MGS: PORTABLE OPS MGS: PEACE WALKER MGSV: GZ / TPP and the second is about Solid Snake MG1 / MG2: SOLID SNAKE METAL GEAR SOLID MGS2: SONS OF LIBERTY MGS4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS Edit: Technically Raiden has his own Duology because he's in most of MGS2 and all of MGRR
@BlackTiger001
@BlackTiger001 Ай бұрын
I remember having all my soldiers shot and killed. I was depressed after that. I think the best way to fix the recruitment issue isnt a straight soldier extracted screen. What you need is a failure rate. Give multiple options for extraction and corresponding chances of success. 100% Take your time and drag the soldier to the truck. Works every time. The risk of getting caught the old way still exist. 50-75% Drag them to prearranged locations then call for extraction. A soldier needs to infiltrate and extract so its never 100%. In fact it starts at 50% success rate but do things in mission like diable security measure such as cameras and personnel will increase the chances. 30-50% Much like 50-75% youre calling for an extraction and can increase thr success rate with in mission activities. Instead of dragging the soldier anywhere you put them in a box. With this system even the most tedious extraction becomes more of a choice. You really need this soldier? Are you willing to do what needs be done to get him? Would love to settle things with Null again. There was one change i would love to see. I want to see a base like mgs5 and an affected change due an increase presence. Show me something is improving when we get more men
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Ай бұрын
Oooh! That sounds like a good idea!!!
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 Ай бұрын
So basically Palworld
@ZakRas
@ZakRas Ай бұрын
The plan of action to take after Delta's release is simple, but I've only seen people suggest the two extremes. 1. Remaking the entire series in chronological order, which is excessive and would be messy. 2. Jumping straight to Metal Gear Solid... which is too hasty and nostalgia-lusting a move that skips over the 2 more important games in the series that cannot be avoided anymore. Pretend it's 2005, you've finally beaten both Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2 on Disc 2 of Subsistence... having played MGS3 throughout the previous year. You understand WHY Big Boss went down that road. The HOW of unwittingly build an army for Zero in Costa Rica only for it to be destroyed by another man wanting revenge on Zero only for him to repurpose an escape-forever-into-anonymity body double plot by Zero to act as a decoy while he builds Outer Heaven... isn't necessary to understand Metal Gear 1 or 2. Delta should be followed by a duology remake of Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2 - written as direct sequel to Snake Eater, with any reference to the events of Peace Walker & The Phantom Pain relegated to collectible data-files and/or cassette tapes hidden throughout both games on all difficulties, which serve to fill in the blanks we hoped MGSV would've originally done. This helps keep the main story flow smoothly from Delta to MG1 to MG2 for newcomers to the series... while not disregarding the events of PW & TPP for veterean fans. Collect all 200% of these collectables and you can then unlock the True Ending to MG1 where instead of fighting just Big Boss... you fight TX-55 that was being piloted by Venom Snake and then have the one-on-one with him. One thing I've love to see in the reworked stories of MG1 & MG2 - is extreme focus on the theme of Choice, i.e. the choices that Big Boss made after MGS3 versus the choices that Solid Snake is making throughout MG1, MG2 and even MGS - a remake of that is what would then follow the duology remake.
@rohanthomas4134
@rohanthomas4134 Ай бұрын
The big one is adopting the motion comic cuteness in to fully choreographed and rendered cinematics running in engine.
@smoke0783
@smoke0783 Ай бұрын
according to konami youtube mg1&2 would be remade. it’d be pretty interesting to see those games remade bc they’re very important to the timeline. id want them to do that over mgs1 remake honestly
@anthonyfernandez82
@anthonyfernandez82 Ай бұрын
What did they say about Metal Gear 1 and 2?
@smoke0783
@smoke0783 Ай бұрын
@@anthonyfernandez82 that it would be on the list for a potential remake in the timeline. i think it makes the most sense to remake those games too more than mgs1 imo
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 Ай бұрын
I believe Portable Ops is canon, but the issue that Kojima has it in shaky grounds, is because IMO, he saw what he liked and built on top of it, but while making Peace Walker he also didn't feel constrained by it that is why there are some plot holes, but I can believe that is something that some retcons can easily fix, hell even Gene's speech power can be explained as a parasitic power.
@domuk7844
@domuk7844 Ай бұрын
The recruited soldiers keeping their uniforms made this better than the other recruit centric games
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 Ай бұрын
Imagine if we got to name all the soldiers we recruit.
@salomonmolina
@salomonmolina Ай бұрын
I always assumed that big boss used gene's money to create outer haven at the end of mgsv because I don't think he is using money from diamond dogs or ocelot to create his nation
@juliosilva2301
@juliosilva2301 Ай бұрын
Portal Ops should be an expansion/DLC for MGS Delta. A short story to build up the story to come in Peace Walker.
@LeekLP
@LeekLP Ай бұрын
POPS remake should just be an expansion to Delta. They can use most of the existing assets, just ignore the base building and fultoning mechanics and just retell the events in pretty
@returningwhisper
@returningwhisper Ай бұрын
I think they should combine PW and PO into a single release and have them be completely remade in UE5.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
Ew don't ruin PW.
@purplesamurai5373
@purplesamurai5373 7 күн бұрын
Thanks you! I haven't found anybody else pointing out how Gene's Philosophy is different from Big Boss, instead preferring to say that "Gene is a Big Boss ripoff"
@kawawete
@kawawete 27 күн бұрын
I have insider info about the state of Delta : it's going absolutely great, we're talking playable builds that makes you forget MGS3 HD.
@SchmuckAmok
@SchmuckAmok Ай бұрын
Portable Ops is an excellent buffer title between MGS3 and Peace Walker, both in terms of gameplay and story. It’s a nice blend of both, where the leap from 3 to PW without PO can be jarring
@daBIGcheesefries
@daBIGcheesefries Ай бұрын
Portable Ops is entirely subjective in terms of canon and there’s arguments to be made for and against it. Personally, I don’t think it is because the actual events from the storyline are never mentioned. MGS4 used some imagery in more of an advertisement than a plot point and PW just reused the flashback from Gene’s memory of The Boss being betrayed without his dialogue.
@pedronied
@pedronied Ай бұрын
Portable Ops' theme is wonderful. Calling to the night. Love it.
@RazSofer-xh3qs
@RazSofer-xh3qs Ай бұрын
Portable ops is the perfect bridge for Mgs 3 and peace walker of how and why Big Boss created MSF which is the foundation of his legacy
@cristianvalenzuela9237
@cristianvalenzuela9237 Ай бұрын
the way you can make easier gather the soldiers is with the system to MGSV, carrying them on you shoulder, which allows you to move faster and use a weapon. As portable ops uses the system of MGS2 and 3, that was designed to hide guards instead of carrying them, well, it sucks.
@shayoko6
@shayoko6 Ай бұрын
give us Vol 2 of the collection! MGS4, portable ops, Acid and peace walker!
@linusenglishtips7523
@linusenglishtips7523 Ай бұрын
This might be possible, Vol 2 has no files for Portable Ops, so by leaving it out they might want to cash in on redoing an unavailable and old game
@sundrynow766
@sundrynow766 Ай бұрын
One thing I would add to these inconsistencies at 22:40 - 23:20, which is not exactly inconsistencies, but I genuinely dislike the Idea of Big Boss had been prophesied, that his sons will save the world. I could rant about it for long, but I try keep it short. It takes away the impact of Solid Snake's struggle with Genes, that he overcomes during the Shadow Moses. This plot point alone, is the ultimate reason of why I'm not considering Portable Ops being canon. If this game is going to be remade to be a 100% canon, remove this prophecy sh!t out of it. Oh, and don't revive Sokolov... Sorry for my imperfect English, since it's not my native language.
@DeathSocrates
@DeathSocrates Ай бұрын
Fireman carry would be more appropriate, given you can still walk relatively fast and shoot if you need to. No need to add a helicopter and fulton to the lore.
@neophenom
@neophenom Ай бұрын
I am glad I got this game on my PS Vita. Being able to use a second stick is awesome. A really under appreciated title.
@graphosencrenoir4006
@graphosencrenoir4006 Ай бұрын
If they remake this game and fix the two things in gameplay mechanics, than it will be a hit: - bigger inventory -FULTON system
@DeusSlayer
@DeusSlayer Ай бұрын
You sold me bro. This part of the story is not only crucial for the entire series but is an EXTREMELY relevant to current era and is a very scary foreshadow of today’s political and military climate…
@st.anselmsfire3547
@st.anselmsfire3547 Ай бұрын
Portable Ops, Peace Walker, and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake all suffer from being exclusives to weird platforms that no one played. It would be cool if they remade them all in chronological order, including the first game for the NES.
@jerrywil7012
@jerrywil7012 Ай бұрын
When it comes to the segmented missions from the original, here's how they could be modernized: instead of always having to go back to the HQ menu to select the next mission, why not take a page out of Capcom's book from Resident Evil 4 remake? Turn the main individual story missions for one area into one giant level that you need to explore to progress to the next area, and have side missions as side objectives that can be completed at your own pace (like the blue medalion side quests). It would certainly help to make the game feel less repeditive and much more dynamic.
@UnderTheSkin13
@UnderTheSkin13 Ай бұрын
They explained it. Sokolov used a fake death pill in his tooth just like snake before the 1.21 gigawatts did him in and revived later.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 Ай бұрын
That's Non-canon.
@Swade1985
@Swade1985 Ай бұрын
I still like to think Twin snakes and Bable are cannon by way of being VR training missions that Raiden did prior to metal gear 2 and the Vr program was designed by otakan
@mattkpopuk2474
@mattkpopuk2474 Ай бұрын
You could make Portable Ops and Peace Walker as one game. Like Act 1 and Act 2, like with Tanker/Plant, Virtuous Mission/Operation Snake Eater. Call it Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker Ops.
@kwelan
@kwelan Ай бұрын
The story in portable ops should be told in a series of flashback style side ops in the peacewalker remake.
@tootyrnt5533
@tootyrnt5533 Ай бұрын
MPO was so ahead of its time. I truly believe that without it we wouldn't have had the base building mechanic as well as the solider recruitment systems that came out in later games (plus the multiplayer was awesome).
@trogdorrules
@trogdorrules Ай бұрын
I think it would be awesome if they did a dual remake with Portable Ops/+ and Peace Walker, sort of like a Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain situation, where you get bonuses based on your completion rate in PO that would roll over into PW
@Bigboss12335
@Bigboss12335 Ай бұрын
As a metal gear fan , my opinion is portable ops is optional story meaning it can be both cannon or non cannon according to player choice
@simplesimon4374
@simplesimon4374 Ай бұрын
Portable Ops isn't canon acid isn't canon ghost babel isn't canon
@nahCyzar0520
@nahCyzar0520 Ай бұрын
I think what you are talking about at 1:32 would be a Reimagining as it would likely need to add new areas and/or story.
@grandmastercadillac9052
@grandmastercadillac9052 Ай бұрын
Metal Gear 1 and 2 really ought to be the next remakes. There is so much background information about the series to expand upon there. Plus let’s be honest most Metal gear fans only know the general story of those games rather than have actually played them. It would also flow nicely with the MGS3 remake by being a more straight up stealth game rather than reintroducing the whole recruitment mechanic. We haven’t had a Metal Gear game starring Solid Snake since 2008 so this would be the perfect way to reestablish that character as the poster child of the franchise. Plus I really need to see a 4K Dirty Duck lol
@requiem-fractos
@requiem-fractos Ай бұрын
Bro forgot about Johnny's ability to drag bodies faster
@videakias3000
@videakias3000 Ай бұрын
I downloaded portable ops on an emulator and the controls were so dogshit that it was unplayable. also there were some plot-holes about this game, so it better to treat it as non-canon.
@aled857
@aled857 Ай бұрын
Mgs 1 and 2 remake should be a package, remake both for one release, they are both small and would be good as a package
@CodeRed001
@CodeRed001 Ай бұрын
All I want is a remake of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Those games are so important to everything and I think they have the potential to be amazing. I doubt it will ever happen or if it did it probably won't be done well since Kojima isn't on board. It would be difficult.
@mohammed_mana3944
@mohammed_mana3944 Ай бұрын
Man, when I first did Fulton Recovery in Peace Walker, it made me never want to touch Portable Ops ever again. Dragging soldiers out of the map was so annoying.
@Strictly_Jake
@Strictly_Jake Ай бұрын
Man, Metal Gear for GBC is so forgotten, Max doesn't even remember it
@uchytjes10
@uchytjes10 Ай бұрын
Portable Ops and Peace Walker differ from 3 in that they would require a LOT more work to make them of the same quality of what Delta is looking to be.
@francesco3772
@francesco3772 Ай бұрын
Oh no! Actual effort for those sweet dividends! The absolute state...
@uchytjes10
@uchytjes10 Ай бұрын
@@francesco3772 To be fair, MGS3's remake can probably be done so flawlessly because they have all the animation assets still for the cutscenes and such. Anything new that I have seen looks simple. To redo PO/PW, they would need to do some work on the actual gameplay to get it up to snuff.
@sharinglungs3226
@sharinglungs3226 22 күн бұрын
Wow I’m shocked twin snakes sold so little. Now I understand why it’s so hard to get and why it cost so much.
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