The key is the bloodline of Noah and Mio, since it will eventually lead to Matthew, who will prevent the collapse through the sheer power of beans

"I still get to take a W... or half-W. I take a V" If someone ever makes a Luxin Out of Context video that needs to be there lol

Still a firm believer that the two world combined immediately after being reformed. The worlds themselves wanted to recombine, but their composition was incompatible. After Origin activated, the two worlds were made of the same stuff and were compatible to recombine properly. The people didn’t do anything, it was the will of the worlds themselves.

Talking about the “key” to saving everything being on reformed Earth while playing X’s “The Key We Lost” was clean AF

....KOS MOS floating in space for all that time, and specifically her color leaving her corpse... could have to do with how she ended up as a blade in XC2. Her consciousness abandoned her body and went somewhere it could be more useful until her next true purpose is reached

There is one more thing that Blade has which could be important here regarding the spoilery stuff - Nopon. They simply appeared after Klaus's experiment, and the Archsage is an absurdly powerful entity. It's completely unexplained what they are, where they came from, and why they took form. They're pretty enigmatic, and with Riku doing Riku things in 3 and Future Redeemed, it's entirely possible that they play a much greater role in the future of the series than anyone knows.

Nephelim, Abel, and Chaos staving off the inevitable end of the universe feels really similar to Shulk, Rex and A at the end of Future redeemed. Then you add FR having the big alpha mech fight while xenosaga has the big omega mech fight, FR has a lot of Saga imagery where the end of Saga seems to connect to FR a lot more than just the radio scene.

11:45 Some unknown key The key we lost starts playing. That was really funny.

If Noah and Mio is more important, THEN REX JUST GOT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT AS MIO'S FATHER. REX JUST KEEPS WINNING.

I never played Xenosaga so hearing "A land of origin" I lost my shit, Takahashi I fucking KNEEL

Haven't seen the video yet, but from the moment I saw the ending of FR I believed that the worlds "interlinked" thanks to Noah's and Mio's FEELINGS (key word there) and the lights in the center of the two worlds that shine and react to each other represent Noah and Mio

I never agreed with the idea the XC3 cast mattered less than other parties, they had their major role to olay with breaking the endless now and keeping things moving. My favorite thing about the Xenoblade games is that each party and their stories are connected on the grand scheme and a at the same time on their own, so separate. They have their own worlds, conflicts and stories. I know people wanted that big 3 game crossover in 3's main game, but I'm glad they left it to a minimum and saved it for Future Redeemed, it gave the 3 cast time to shine without out the other titles shining over them. That's how I feel about it at least, coming from someone who was very satisfied with the ambiguous nature of 3's ending (I think the way it was left gave enough space for people to speculate the future for themselves and not everything needs to be tied up in a neat little bow).

I've been checking in so often for new videos just hoping I wasn't missing notifications.

An interesting thought is that Noah & Mio’s combining with N & M is something we can call Intralink (like how an Intranet is local, while the Internet is with other groups) - in fact, this is something we’ve seen before, with Mythra & Pyra becoming one identity to access Penuma’s power.

11:46 I see what you did there, I suppose you could say that, they need to find the key they lost. 15:30 Obligatory reminder that the Sammarians appeared at the beginning of time from another universe. If the plan is to outlast the destruction of the universe, then I can try to shoehorn in a Xenoblade X connection and no one can stop me!

13:18 And the fact that KOS-MOS Refrain is a thing in the lore and implies that somehow Shion, the Professor, and Allen or KOS-MOS Version 3's blueprints got transported back in time alongside the information on how to create Core Crystals (Which, keep in mind, were created to repair those harmed by the experiment and to bring about a new cycle of life) in order to make KOS-MOS Refrain which then begs the question how the hell they got back to that point in time in the first place, as well as implant information on Radamanthus inside the core crystal. Can't wait to see the video explaining how Refrain fits into all this, because Time Shenanigans is the only method that makes sense to me but raises a whole mothership-load of questions with it. Best I can come up with is Eternal Recurrence happened at least once in the past and Wilhelm used information from a previous iteration to create the refrains to monitor the conduit for some unknown purpose and put it in the names of the people who created KOS-MOS Version 3.

Im.surprised you havent commented on how perfectly both the end credits scenes for base game 3 and future redeemed line up perfectly: the worlds intersect as noah hears the flute which def a strong implication the rejoining was almost instantaneous. Also, are you planning to make any videos about how pneuma and logos got into aionios? I think a lot of ppl are still kind of stumped as to how they got there, esp logos and how N came to wield his power. Keep up the great work!

As a Xeno game, it's always possible that they do meet again, but it's in another lifetime

Him: Im gonna spoil the Xenosaga series so don't watch this if you wanna go in blind! Me: Ha! You really think im gonna understand any of whats about to be said right now. Im still confused about your Radio video.

Time dilation is, IMO, one of the easiest things for me to suspend my disbelief for. Hell, it's a concept we literally KNOW exists due to Aionios being stuck in one point in time, so it's not unlikely to say that the worlds created by the conduit and trinity processor wouldn't already have that. Anyway almost everything you said lines up with what I thought. The fact that Moebius itself IS tied to humanity's collective unconscious was already setting off alarm bells in my head before the DLC, so I'm almost certain that origin itself will play a key part in... Xenoblade Saga?

I will say I think Zanza is pretty explicitly made out to be talking BS claiming he remade the *universe* multiple times seeing as how he literally couldn't without Meyneth, who opposed the idea, which is the whole reason Xenoblade...ya know, happened.

ngl i was half expecting your next video post-SMRPG and Star Ocean 2 remake direct being about how now is hte perfect time to remake Xenogears in the 2DHD style

I just want to say real quick. "We will meet again" doesn't always mean what you'd think. We see plenty of stories were "we will meet again" ends up being bittersweet. Or just straight up bitter. But. That said. I do want to see the saga cast still alive.

That very last sentence of Kos-Mos having a Tora and Shulk built body just made me think of a whole kinda combat/upgrade system with idea of FR in mind without the whole process of unlock kits So idea, the whole party I’m going to say is Kos-Mos Shulk, Fiora(with her mecha form), Rex, Poppi, Pyra, Mythra, Pnuema, Nia, Noah, Mio, and their two Ouroboros forms as sorta avatars ala FR but actually more physically manifested as if they did interlink, just cause it kinda fits my whole idea and not for any real lore, story, etc reasons. So each character can upgrade their weapons possibly through the use of origin metal or some type of new materials now available to the world. This will enhance their weapon’s strength and stats, as well as that weapon’s innate arts and whatever additional things they can do(like Pnuema’s form or smt). Now for other arts you could get that aren’t innate and are from other ways. I think maybe being unlocked through memories could work, an interesting way to include the previous world or Saga arts and the like, I also think it might kinda work similar to the how the hero system worked where characters essentially also unlocked sorta that characters memories. I think it could also similarly work with upgrading the weapons through the materials like what was for the innate weapons of the party members, since I feel like the materials part could be similarly story related as the characters could be weaken like Kos-Mos or Pyra for some reason due to sustaining the worlds or losing part of themselves or their memories after the merge. Kinda added story stuff but I just kinda like this system since it’s sorta taking the upgrades of all three worlds, since I think SP could be specific to an affinity system or upgrading their special actions like fusing into a new Pnuema sword so Rex can dual wield it with Nia’s sword, Fiora getting some sorta unleashed mecha form or smt similar to what we kinda see in the game when Mayneth takes control, etc

A normal sized video from Luxin Fantastic!

origin doesn't reverse anything, it's not undoing anything either. when the worlds separated again, it was more like loading an old save. but because origin is basically a giant computer, the save data for the other worlds are both in origin still. it would probably automatically just reconnect the worlds to their proper state, without the negative effects of aionios or mobius

One thing I think that definitely lends credence to the XC1 and XC2 worlds reforming into one within a lifetime is that we know the worlds just picked back up where they left off. Along with this we know that the two halfs of origin were built in preparation for the worlds meeting. This means those of the XC1 and XC2 parties who worked on origin had knowledge about the other world prior to the worlds combining and would still have their knowledge after time resumed. Plus they would still have the means to communicate that we were shown in story with the other world either immediately or when the worlds neared each other in their "orbit" again. So I definitely think the reconnecting of the worlds occurred within the XC3 casts lifespan, presumably as the worlds neared each other however they do in their "orbit" since the work on reconnecting the worlds properly would have been able to resume pretty easily after the end of the endless now.

This just makes me more and more excited for the future of this series, thank you for the great video mister xeno man😌

the conduit could easily have been a remnant of the zohar left behind in 2's universe that the trinity processor kept rooted

That moment when you can't watch anything Xenosaga related because episode III requires you to sell your organs to buy.

I wonder if the developers had the canonization plan when they were making 2. We know that they had the idea for 3 and made 2 to set it up, so did the idea for 3 include the Saga stuff?

Well the conduit was just light so it could of been the zohar projecting itself into the pocket dimension

I’ll still stand by that Future Redeemed is the best DLC campaign to elevate the stakes of the main game. It was crazy.

Shion and crew can be in cryo sleep for that time, waiting until their ship gets a signal from KOS-MOS that she has arrived on Earth. Then the ship wakes them up and they can go straight to KOS-MOS’s signal.

Appreciation post for "The Key We've Lost" being perfectly timed with your discourse

One part of me would prefer a xenoblade adaptation of xenosaga, more akin to Takahashi's original vision (or atleast the first part of it) allowing them to close plot holes, and resolve whatever was going on in episode 2. Though this would also likely mean we wouldn't be getting post xenoblade 3 content for probably at least 6 or so years, so not exactly ideal. Regardless I'm sure monolith will deliver what they believe to be the best option.

New video as I was rewatching an old video. Well timed!

As a Solution for the Timedialation-Problem could be the Mass of the smaller Plantes in the Pocketdimentions compared to Earth. The smaller the Gravitation, the faster Time moves. I didn't play the Saga Games, but i think they have normal Gravity on they're Space Ships...so there sould be normal Timeflow trough a Massgenerator.

Resulted in an unkown key "Thr keys we've lost" starts playing

Crazy idea here: what if the Conduit disappearing in Xenoblade 2 was a "phase transition event" in which it not only traveled to a different dimension, but a different time as well? Perhaps it traveled so far back in time and to a different universe that it was "discovered" by an ancient people, which in order to contain its unlimited power, contained it in a sort of shell, which is not only why it looks different in Xenossaga, but also why it is called the Zohar instead of the Conduit. The Conduit is its original form, where the Zohar is what it became called. Then, when Wilhelm "sealed" the Zohar, it underwent another "phase transition event" where it was sent to its original timeline whre Klaus could experiment on it. Thus creating a time loop. This would also mean, of course, that Xenoblade and Xenosaga are technically in different universes, one in which the Conduit suddenly appeared on Earth in the 21rst Century and experimented on by Klaus, and the other where the Zohar was discovered in ancient times and then rediscovered by humanity in Kenya in the 21rst century. This would also allow the dev team to connect Xenoblade with Xenosaga while eliminating all the potential plot holes. Each series takes place in a different timeline, but in both timelines the present and future play out similarly but not exactly the same. That's why in Xenosaga, humanity takes off to the stars to escape the Zohar, while in Xenoblade humanity is using the Conduit's power to colonize the stars. Wilhelm is perhaps the same person in both timelines, but born at a different time, which is why the dates don't add up on the radio in Future Redeemed.

No matter how much you read into it, at the end of the day Xenosaga has the most evidence to come back/continue as a reimagining than anything else right now. Takahashi is not one to leave his stories unfinished. He word for word literally gave the plot in Xenoblade 3 via the Moebius song in Xenogears (the japanese version of the ending theme) Like yes he's going to follow up on Xenoblade X one day and finish that universe off but right now it's clear as day it is Xenosaga. There is too much evidence with the radio, the same ending as Xenosaga III, Namco given SPECIAL THANKS in Xenoblade 3's credits not to mention the IP notices in Xenoblade 3 literally have Xenosaga there. Luxin, keep on fighting the good fight and getting word of Xenosaga coming back out there. I imagine Xenosaga was chosen because Monolith Soft could not come to agreement with Square about Xenogears too so while Xenogears got a reference with the Philadelphia class ship, it was only one reference just like another version of Xenoblade X's project exodus. The overwhelming amount of evidence suggests Xenosaga because it has the most things going for it. You just can't call this cute references anymore.

Their group had broken the loop and split the world. It's very interesting on what'll happen next in the world of Xenoblade.

So, on a related topic, who's up for Poppi and KOS-MOS interactions? Even a in-joke throwaway line by Poppi saying remembers someone who looks like her...or not, if you catch my drift.

Luxin, re: your comment about "how long does it take for things to recombine" around 4:30: The time between Noah hearing Mio's flute in the ending from when things resume is ABOUT the same time as it takes for the scene where it shows the worlds merge. I think they're +/- a second. My interpretation after FR and XC3's ending is that they actually recombine rather quickly -- within I think it was 18 seconds of time resuming. Play it back! You could make a 45 minute video about it. 🙂

"earth is a very very important place..." Yeah I suppose it is

Since N says Moebius are the world, and both N & M and Noah and Mio also become part or completely Moebius, would that explain their memories of the world

That's a thought that never occurred yo me that just sounds hilarious lmao Shulk and Tora working to rebuild KOS-MOS just seems funny for some reason

A key... like the one Alvis used to have before the Trinity Processor inclusion? Origin using Ontos as it's foundation fits with this, too

I didn't play any game from the Saga series but I would love to see a remake series that connects to the world of Xenoblade chronicles. Your video is a real hype train for the future. Hope you are right - again 🔮🚂💯🍀

I’m just glad KOS-MOS is finally coming home. I missed that robot chick.

I'm still a little confused about the conclusion that Noah and Mio are to thank for the worlds recombining (and reappearing in Saga-verse?). I feel that Melia and Nia are also largely to thank, even if Noah and Mio happen to be the only ones left with memories. That said, it also doesn't really offset my concern that the *other* 3 characters (Lanz, Eunie, Taion and Sena) do feel very irrelevant in the wider narrative, like "bit-players" who don't even really exist anymore as we knew them, even compared to 1's party. That always bothered me more than how Noah and Mio ended up. As for the Saga connection, one part of the connection that still confuses me: doesn't Saga describe Lost Jerusalem as being in an 'imaginary-number' domain? And in Saga, isn't 'imaginary-number' kind of like, a collective human consciousness/psychology thing rather than a physics thing? (I'm barely familiar with Saga myself, but this is something that came up in conversations I had with Saga fans about FR's ending) I also feel like chaos calling Lost Jerusalem "the land of origin" doesn't have to mean anything deeper considering Earth is simply where most of society originates in Saga.

With the time dilation there was the saga guidebook that mentions dilation of 10000 years to 5000, it does give the incorrectly inverse numbers but that's probably just a mistake in how it was written With saga having a roughly 5000 year timeline after the 2000s AD, and blades 1-2 having a minimum 10000 year timeline it would fit pretty easily that earth time is twice as long as the time out in space

Well Bamco did just announce they'll be at anime expo on the 1st to share "Exciting announcements and game reveals" so maybe, juuuuuuuuuuust maybe we'll get a treat of some kind... but maybe not.

i lol'd when i heard "the key we've lost" start playing. great video as always

We see Noah hear or at least remember Mio's flute at the end of base game 3, and notice something offscreen. Since the worlds recombined, it's very likely what that means is that the worlds are merged immediately after Origin finished doing what it was meant to do.

I think it's also quite possible that the name origin was chosen as a reference to computer program version control as it serves a very similar function, what with branching universes and merging and whatnot. At least that's what i always assumed the namesake was, but if it also doubles as a reference to that line from chaos... Takahashi do be cooking

I believe that the 2 worlds reformed essentially right after due to a something small i saw right after future redeemed was released. if you time the post credit scene of future redeem with the post credit scene from xenoblade 3 at the exact moment the worlds become one it lines up with Noah hearing Mios flute which would seem to imply thats the moment the 2 became one

Honestly, I think the Xenosaga happened before Xenoblade, after one of Wilhelm’s resets, and that the Dimitri is just an alternate Dimitri. Just like the blade Kosmos and T-elos in 2, which we know core crystal are based on the data of the old world, which would mean that Kosmos and T-elos already existed in the past of 2. In addition, Kosmos in 2, knows how to create the beanstalk, and it’s data from the previous world, before Klaus’ experiment.

With Saga and Blade being connected, I wonder how they're going to explain the origin of the Nopon

Bionis world before XC1 = pocket dimension in the imaginary numbers domain, where gods can exist Bionis world after XC1 = a recreation of the planet in the real numbers domain but on a different plane than Alrest Alrest = Earth after the incident, real numbers domain, but isolated by the space time anomaly and so isn’t in the normal plane where the rest of the solar system etc is Aionios = another pocket dimension in the imaginary numbers domain while the real worlds are frozen in time during the intersection of their planes trying to come back together Post FR world = the planets merged correctly to fully restore the original Earth in the plane where everything else is This is my theory, and it’s supported by visual cues (the “bubble” around XC1’s endless sea cracking and resulting into the universe around it to be revealed, Reyn mentioning that the water is now salty, the two worlds looking like a transparent swirly thing in space before separating and then rejoining)

In other words alvis away. The trinity processor is key here. Origin will be needed to save everything needed. Alvis or A is the key.

Reguarding the second part of the video, there is one part of the alternate theory that I think runs into an issue - the fogbeasts. Alvis, under Shulk's instruction to create a world without gods, tried to erase himself from existance because he himself had power that made him a god, and failed, becoming Alpha. Alpha is a fogbeast (arguably this is for gameplay purposes, but I think this is for story purposes as well, since fogbeasts are things that shouldn't exist but do... and someone that wasn't fully erased by the power Alvis had at that point sounds like somthing that shouldn't exist as far as reality is concerned), and I suspect that the Fog King is the remenants of a failed attempt by Alpha to erase the Infernal Guldo (suspected to be the remenants of Galea still alive in Alrest) for having a connection to Mayneth and thus being a potential god whose existance conflicted with Alvis's instruction to create a world without them. I don't think it was truly and permanently dead because the Guldo are the quest for immortality gone horribly wrong, and them not even escaping their terrible fate when apparenly destroyed would make sense for really underlining how badly the humans of earth had screwed everything up with that research. Note that in Future Connected fogbeasts other than the Fog King are so unreal that they need to possess a creature that does exist to do ANYTHING and can be defeated by killing their host, suggesting that the Fog King was closer to being real than any of the other fogbeasts at the time - and specifically and exactly the replica monado (i.e. somthing copying Alvis's reality-altering powers) was required in order to make the Fog King sufficiently real to kill. Also note that Origin - built by reverse-engineering Ontos and thus having its abilities be similar in nature to Alvis and the Monado - spent around 15 Aionios years making non-Alpha fogbeasts more real before Alpha made his move, and that was why Future Redeemed's fogbeasts don't need to possess another creature to do things and can be hurt with any weapon freely. Alpha himself seems to be real enough to do things without needing to be made more real, but needs to possess someone and make them his avatar to do things due to a mixture of aspects of his past as Ontos that weren't erased and the nature of the power he is directly wielding - Zanza appears to have been forced into that position when using said power drawn from Alvis, and his body not being made of fog appears to be because trying to erase yourself with the Conduit fails way sooner than whatever was causing Alvis to fail in erasing the things that became fogbeasts - probably because the paradox of somthing that doesn't exist erasing somthing makes trying to erase youself fail immediatly.

Here's another idea, one rhat takes into account no time dilation, but also harmonizes Saga + Blade's (+ X's) 2 somewhat similar versions of Earth: Xenoblade's Earth actually could have stemmed from an earlier recurrence, meaning Klaus destroyed the universe but Wilhelm reset it, while Klaus's universe was separate from that recurrence until the events of FR. This also explains why the "Land of Origin" (i.e. Aionios recombined) holds the key to fixing the issue. And the key is very simple to explain: a way to store souls so that they may start over elsewhere. And here's the kicker - this is EXACTLY what Elsa teaches X's Earthers so they can escape before the Ghosts n stuff invade. So yeah: Klaus's Earth destroyed - recurrence occurs sometime, due tk failsafe? (Xenoblade 1-3 unaffected) - Xenosaga's Earth reduced to Planck scale - Perfect Aionios shows up as Earth 3 arguably bringing back the Conduit (Klaus's universe) - Conduit manifests in ending lf XS3 due to chaos calling upon it - KOS-MOS goes back "home" to seek a way to store souls so they can survive recurrence OR bad universes merging (something accomplished in XC3 through Origin). And now things get even more interesting as humanity learned to reincarnate in other bodies, leading to the events of X and perhaps even Xenogears

My only worry for xenoblade 4 is that I really REALLY like the titan setting and an earth setting just sounds plain for the xenoblade series, I'm sure monolith will find a way to make it drop dead gorgeous, maybe the geography changed to look more mythical, but yeah the world being just earth worries me a bit

My own theory is that the Conduit and the Zohar are just like the trinity processors, but on a universal scale rather than just for a single planet or realm of space and reality. So while Pneuma, Logos and Ontos were the custodians of smaller scale events, the Conduit and Zohar are just the next tier up... So i'm speculating that we might see a different object similar to those objects in the next storyline, but with a different "objective" from the Conduit and Zohar, granting whatever power is needed to oversee that new realm. It might even be the balanced entity, just like Ontos was a middle ground between the male and female persona of Logos and Pneuma, and the reason it was unknown until now, is because it simply couldn't exist until the worlds became "balanced" again, which might be what we see in the post credit scene of FR with the two extremes coming together, which is further symbolized by the initial bitter war between Agnus and Keves, until they fight together as one through Ouroboros.

I look forward to the KOS-MOS + Poppi scenes in future games.

A lot of people are saying there is a plot hole on how the time doesn’t match up since it’s only been 4,000 years since xenosaga and the klaus experiment while earth has experienced more time. A lot of people don’t realize that in real life that time is different everywhere because of black holes the best explanation is that Xeno saga takes place closer to a black hole and that’s why time has moved slower.

New Luxin, who up.

All this speculative stuff has me excited for the next game in the series to see how it’ll all come together but I feel like it’ll come to nothing other than a few small references instead of a direct continuation of both stories like we all want. Because games have to appeal to everyone and niche products “don’t sell” they’re not going to explicitly make these connections a big story focus. It’d be so cool to see a big cool crossover where everything converges but I have a feeling the next game will be largely it’s own story again with characters and references sprinkled in, like how xenoblade 3 ended up…

Considering how close those worlds remained together, the lack of planitairy rotation, and the lack of a moon or sun at some point in the background, or the consistent light in the FR post credits, i'm gonna assume it was real time

Best part of the video is The Key We've Lost playing when Luxin says "key" at 11:45.

The way I understand it, when Wilhelm initiates Eternal Recurrence the universe doesn't reset completely, but the subconscious of humanity (not sure how different this is from the Collective Unconscious) builds a steadily increasing rejection of Eternal Recurrence after every cycle. In Xenoblade, it is established that the subconscious of humanity is powerful enough to affect the physical world directly, as Z is a manifestation of the subconscious. However, what if this subconscious was directed, and directed with the aim to find a solution? Z and Aionios only arose because of Origin. Origin only arose because of Alvis, as the architecture of Origin is based on the Ontos core crystal. Even when the Ontos core crystal was in the Trinity Processor it had a special status. Maybe it even influenced Klaus to build the Trinity Processor itself and initiate the experiment with the ultimate end goal of eventually developing Origin. There's some speculation as to whether there may be a connection between Alvis/Ontos and chaos. Besides their appearance they both seek to counteract a godlike power that aims to reset the world/universe. If chaos insists that there's a key in the land of origin that is needed to prevent the universe from collapsing, it would make sense that chaos influenced the creation of the key, that maybe Origin is that key, and he may have been directed to create this key by humanity's subconscious after going through enough cycles of Eternal Recurrence. To add to the connection between chaos/Alvis and human subconscious, chaos held the power of Anima, and Anima and Animus reside in the human subconscious in Jungian psychology. It would make more sense that KOS-MOS would need to go back to Earth/Lost Jerusalem, where Ontos would be after the return of Earth, where the key of Origin would be, and where KOS-MOS would use her power of Animus (as the counterpart to chaos's Anima) together with the key to fulfill humanity's subconscious wish to finally transcend Eternal Recurrence and the destruction of the Universe.

I'm exited to play this I'm downloading the dlc rn, finally

If this is the case, I think that Noah and Mio would be the most important blade characters

Imagine if the Zohar in xenosaga is actually a replica or the conduite, as The conduite and the zohar are discribe as very different things and also in how they operate, i don't remember the exactly terminology they use but the conduite seems to be more of metaphisical construct , while the zohar functions more like a receptor that stores the power

this is so funny. thank u but also im in a puddle of tears

Space can be slow to move on a relative scale, but individually the pieces can still move pretty fast. For example it takes 12 Earth years for Jupiter to rotate around the Sun, and 10 Earth hours to complete a solar day. The fact that Jupiter looked completely static with respect to Earth as the worlds reappeared and then recombined suggests that, while we don't know how long it took for Origin to download the worlds back into Earth's dimension, the time it took for them to recombine after they did would've been fast enough for Jupiter and Earth to hold the same position with respect to each other, so that probably happened in real time.

i cannot believe you played "the key we've lost" at the point where you mention a key

Not exactly sure if this adds anything but when nia addresses the party in one of her scenes she mentions how theres keys inside all if the ouroboros party members in some relation to origin i believe so that could atleast be something

I didn't get to play the Xenogear series as I came in with Xenoblade 2 but... do they not have cryostasus in that universe? Wouldn't the ship be able to just put the members into cryo and then wake them up hundreds/thousands of years later like in X?

This is the meatier thing that Lanz was wanting

Hmmm what if this plan of chaos is to make earth a vessel that serves as an Ark to go into a new universe… an ark called Mira.

I'm still not exactly sure what that light at the end of future redeemed is. For me personally I think it's more likely to be the White Whale, but other fans think it's KOS-MOS. I'll put it this way if Xenosaga gets remade and has some pretty big retcons the latter could be very likely. As it stands now though Xenosaga and Xenoblade's lores are pretty different from each other and even the name drop of Dimitri Yuriev makes no sense since he wasn't alive on Lost Jerusalem, he's hundreds of years old not thousands when Xenosaga take place. Xenoblade X's lore is quite different as well, heck it also contradicts Xenosaga which doesn't have any aliens at all, but it has actual references to Xenoblade 1 in it whether or not those are cheeky nods or are actually relevant when we eventually get a DE or X2. Put simply I like the theorizing, but I'm curious what Monolith will actually do with that light. Heck we could all be wrong and it's a hint at Xenoblade 4 instead.

If blade truely does connect to saga and its not just call backs. What is the conduit? Is it just another connection to the upper domain? Does Udo have his waves in many pies? Or is it maybe an echo of the real zohar left after the accident? Or did they find a damn cache of zohars in Kenya?

So I think the world basically split in two and went quantum realm for a while in almost simulation-like worlds, where emotions/feelings or whatever have more direct power to change the world, and I think humanity had to rediscover itself repeatedly in that simulation purgatory thingy until it could pop back into existence in normal space. Or maybe thats too ambiguous/philosophical, what I described is basically just Buddhism, since it has those themes all over the place in this, and psychology

Oh no, another video that I want to watch but cannot because Xenosaga spoilers :'(((( I can't wait for the day the remasters are annouced Dx

14:40 not to be confused with The Origin from Dragalia Lost, who is a giant white dragon with crimson wings, and one of two creators of the Dragalia Lost multiverse.

Just reached the end of Xenoblade 3 and wow what a game, fantastic stuff.

To be responsible and skip this video so I can experience Xenosaga blind vs. I really love Noah & Mio and a Luxin video about them is the perfect fuel

I can't wait for xenoblade saga!

Sorry, I'm going to have to sit this one out. I've only just recently beaten the first Xenosaga and I intend to play through the next two. But, here's a like and a comment for the algorithm.

Alright, Ill be back once I play the Saga series

spoilers below the read more ooof on the no time dilation thoery and that would be so sad , also an idea that I always chuckel at , how are the saga characters going to react to the 'new' Earthlines, I really hope blade happened in a time dilated space just so we'd get to see Allens reacton to the Nopon

@16:23 Is the term pocket dimension the right one, or would Pocket universe be a more apet description of them? While there are some limits on what could exist in a pocket dimension, a pocket universe plays by its own rules. Time flow upon them compared to the universe that they spawned from would be completely arbitrary. As would their shape, size, and the very logic they work upon.

While I feel reincarnation is likely for characters such as Shion there are multiple other means to prolong their existence given the tech and lore from the Saga games.

I know the backstory to past xeno games are important for the story. But i only want to know what happened to the cast of Xenoblade 1/2 after future redeemed

What is the last song? Piano version of the xeno3 one. Great video btw

honestly the best way to have these franchises both respected is to have them only have loose ties and connections. like the implication they had the same origin on Earth is cool and Kosmos as a blade is fun, but I don't see a neat way to fit the stories together that makes people happy. I'd rather see new stuff from Xenoblade than move back into a different franchise tbh

Have you discussed Rex and Shulk in FR regarding who or what they are? When you take N as a reference point, he meets M has a kid who grows to be a grandfather whos grandson meets a 30 to 40s ish Rex and Shulk. Rex and Shulk also seem quite torn on spilling the beans to what are clearly their kids and yet they dont. Glimmer as a Japanese name is the mix of Pyra and Mythras name looking like Pneuma and with each generation last 10 years it seems to me that its just the reincarnation of both of a mix of Pyra and Mythras kids Bringing it back to Rex and Shulk in the ending and their ultimate decision. I dont think they are the "real" Rex and Shulk i think they are just reborn possibly as the product of A or Z or even Pyra and Mythra. Even at the end of XB3 Nia and Melia seem to talk to themselves about seeing everyone again. Just some thoughts flapping about in my head since i finished the game.

man I am so hopeful everyone is right and they are going to either remaster or port the Xenosaga series to modern consoles. The chance to play them instead on PS2 would be a dream. Especially with how expensive 3 is now.