FV4005 vs T54 | 183mm HESH Simulation | Overpressure & Armour Piercing Simulation

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SY Simulations

SY Simulations

2 жыл бұрын

The 183mm HESH of the FV4005 was designed to knock out any soviet tank of the 40's and 50's with a single hit. The massive 72kg HESH projectile had enough explosive mass to perforate around 75mm of steel, while being able to create spalling through plates exceeding 200mm thick with its shockwave effect.
While it was designed in response to the IS heavy tanks, their design meant that only the scabbing effect would be present, hence a target with an exposed hull roof was chosen to show both the HESH and HE overpressure effects. The simulation represents an impact on the turret cheeks, but to increase accuracy and reduce computational time, the model was made symmetric.
The amazing T54 artwork in the thumbnail is credited to: @Tank Encyclopedia
TO NOTE: The video was broken into 2 simulations to maximise the accuracy of both effects. No diagrams could be found of the L1 hesh so the design used is a scaled up version of the L43A1 HESH projectile. Some shrapnel and fragments are not shown as element deletion is used.
Material properties, armour, and projectile geometries were all taken from literature:
[1] RHA: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/28829...
[2] Air: osf.io/f8awq/download/?versio...
[3] RDX: www.researchgate.net/publicat...
[4] L43A1: www.militaryimages.net/media/...
[5] T54 Armour: imgur.com/rW4Moq8
[6] Lethal Pressure Levels: www.sccm.org/getattachment/cc...
Abaqus FEA was used with a Coupled Eulerian-Lagrangian model, with Johnson-Cook material properties for steel, ideal gas for air, and JWL for RDX.

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@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 2 жыл бұрын
The added analysis is, in my opinion, quite a nice addition. Sometimes it can be a bit hard to judge what precisely is going on as someone with minimal knowledge of how these sims work.
@ImRandomDude
@ImRandomDude 2 жыл бұрын
Hesh go boom Tank no go vroom Hesh impact simulation done simple
@normfreilinger5655
@normfreilinger5655 2 жыл бұрын
Oh brother……🤐
@viduraherath4008
@viduraherath4008 Жыл бұрын
@number7red619 i mean its worth guessing its a 1/2 chance he could get it right
@pniak_
@pniak_ 2 жыл бұрын
I like these 🅱️ESH simulations
@BeanzWarThunder
@BeanzWarThunder 2 жыл бұрын
haha yes
@the_defaultguy
@the_defaultguy 2 жыл бұрын
🅱ESH
@victoryday663
@victoryday663 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, it really 🅱️ashes in the tank's armour.
@Astro_Zed
@Astro_Zed 2 жыл бұрын
What does the b stand for
@bintan5218
@bintan5218 2 жыл бұрын
@@Astro_Zed HESH is the BESH
@Malakin0
@Malakin0 2 жыл бұрын
Also considering that there is no spin on the shell and its not a perfect model the results would prob be worse for the poor t54 crew, one of the late IS series might have been a better test since afaik it was the threat of those heavy tanks that made the british army consider producing such a monsterous gun and the 120mm they ended up using.
@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it would be worse, as things like optics, gun/turret drives, hatches, tracks etc not being included which would have been damaged. A simulation with an IS tank wouldnt have been able to show overpressure effects as there isnt much of an exposed hull roof.
@A407RAC
@A407RAC 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, how would spin affect the results? Thanks! Also hai SY, love you
@jacobkingsford5209
@jacobkingsford5209 2 жыл бұрын
@@A407RAC the more the plastic explosive is in contact with the armour the more damage it does. And spin makes it spread out more when it hits a target, and so does more damage
@A407RAC
@A407RAC 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobkingsford5209 perfect explanation, thank you most kindly my got sir! Your name befits you King.
@vasily4748
@vasily4748 2 жыл бұрын
@@SYsimulations это тупиковый путь развития. Вы&бы порекомендовали 305 mm или авиабомбу. Поэтому стали развивать кумулятивные снаряды и динамическую защиту.
@FELONIOUSBOLUSS
@FELONIOUSBOLUSS 2 жыл бұрын
Can you create a simulation of my parents getting back together? Thanks!
@rw9737
@rw9737 2 жыл бұрын
Just Pray to JESUS, Miriam and St. Joseph for that to happen..
@busteraycan
@busteraycan 2 жыл бұрын
maybe
@shaqm0bile
@shaqm0bile 2 жыл бұрын
fluid simulations are much simpler than marriage. good luck.
@ETBONIFACIO
@ETBONIFACIO 2 жыл бұрын
@@rw9737 not only to pray but of course, to also follow His wills
@bruvaasmodai5250
@bruvaasmodai5250 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you exist within that simulated world?
@lin837pr2
@lin837pr2 2 жыл бұрын
Its Good to see you back again with the simulations! (: And can you test the 183 HESH with a tank with ERA? It would be interesting for me to see how the ERA performs.
@aldonurkayam4912
@aldonurkayam4912 2 жыл бұрын
Godd ..boy
@hackelord
@hackelord Жыл бұрын
its not HESH,its 🅱️ *ESH*
@baronvonlobotomus7530
@baronvonlobotomus7530 Жыл бұрын
I don’t really know, but I predict that ERA is highly effective against HESH. HESH mainly relies on physical contact with armor to transmit shockwave into thhe armor, and ERA might prematurely detonate the round, making it just about as effective as a normal HE round. Although, I could be wrong.
@NathanOkun
@NathanOkun 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a test result of a 105mm High Explosive Plastic (HEP --US term for British HESH) against a heavy log barricade directly in front of and close to an armored car (thin armor, of course) with a 37mm (?) gun turret. First was a shot using a regular impact-nose-fuzed HE round, which blew a small hole in the logs and displaced a couple of logs around the impact point, but no damage to the car. Second was a HEP round. No more logs except the bottom layer bolted directly into the ground. I didn't even see a piece of the other logs in the picture of the still-undamaged armored car from the front. Third, another HEP round into the front upper hull of the car. The turret was still in the picture, but torn off and on the ground several yards behind the car body. The front of the car hull was blown completely away and opened up like a tin soup can with a large fire-cracked detonated inside of it. There was some other pieces, including one front wheel, a few yards behind the car off to one side. Light armor does not help against this kind of projectile at all.
@rolandlee6898
@rolandlee6898 2 жыл бұрын
HESH is extremely overrated and misunderstood. Light armor wouldnt help against any kind of projectile fired from a tank gun. There is very good reason why HESH never really caught on and is currently being phased out. Its application is extremely limited, and in a modern setting its far less effective than MP rounds currently in use. It was made out of the idea that HE does sufficient damage to heavy armor that is otherwise very difficult to penetrate. It kinda works in theory but not really in practice. In practice the effect on a tank between a regular HE and HESH is virtually the same and is almost entirely limited to external damage. When it comes to barriers, regular HE with a relative modern fuze, is actually far superior. HESH will always invariably detonate on the surface. HE can be set to detonate with a delay (something we've been doing since WW1), which would allow it to penetrate into or through a fortification or wall and detonate in it or behind it. Something HESH cant do and something all modern HE-MP rounds are made to do. The idea that HESH is good at blowing holes in walls for breaching is also false. Breeching HE rounds use the impact-delay function to detonate inside the barrier. Likewise this makes HESH rather awful at destroying fortifications, its always a surface detonation, which does next to nothing to the structural integrity of any half-decent fortification. Thats why no one uses HESH. Only the British did, just as they stuck to the rifled gun. Reality has finally caught up with them and all the fanboys who know next to nothing about weapons are crying because the Brits are done putting blind nationalism over common sense and science and are switching to L55.
@Bordpie
@Bordpie 2 жыл бұрын
@@rolandlee6898 Against homogenous armour HESH works quite well, but since we have moved on to composite layered systems they are largely ineffective against (modern) tanks. It's not designed for breaching walls but sending shockwaves through it creating spalling and damage on the inside of the target, including concrete structures. It was originally designed for concrete structures and fortifications and is why it has been used for so long. HESH always dentonates on the surface if the object is rigid enough to deform the projectile and set off the fuse. It will go through a thin skinned vehicle like any HE projectile. A standard HE round will not penetrate reinforced concrete much before it detonates anyway, and the shockwave energy is not transferred to the target efficiently. By spreading the contact area for the explosive, more energy can be imparted from detonation into the target. (EDIT: This is why HESH is more effective at an angle because it spreads out over a larger area.) MP (multipurpose) are a form of heat round not primarily used for tanks but light anti vehicle/personelle/material uses instead of standard HE rounds, since the Abrams tank only carries 40 rounds of ammunition. MP rounds are less effective anti fortification rounds than HESH but MP are good enough for most purposes. The question is not how effective HESH is but do you need an anti-fortification round on an MBT which requires a specific rifiled gun and you have limited ammo space to work with? Generally no. But for specialised anti-fortification vehicles yes.
@rolandlee6898
@rolandlee6898 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bordpie Im well aware of the principle. Im saying HE/MP rounds do the same in most cases. HESH was an interesting idea but has very little actual benefit. It will do nothing to any reasonable concrete structure that a HE/MP wouldnt do just as well. Any concrete structure intended to protect from heavy fire will be at least 1 meter thick. A HESH round exploding on the surface will do practically nothing. In fact a delayed impact HE will cause substantially more damage than HESH as it will penetrate into the wall and detonate within it. And it will actually produce superior spalling effects in this scenario as well (which is not a reliable factor btw, spalling decreases exponentially as the thickness of the target increases). There is no literature that would demonstrate that HESH is or was any more effective than standard HE at anything whatsoever. There is plenty of evidence to suggest programable fuzes on HE/MP is a far superior option
@josepetersen7112
@josepetersen7112 2 жыл бұрын
@@rolandlee6898I’d expect HEP rounds to transfer a great deal more shock into what they strike due to the way the plastic explosive deforms onto the target. This should make it useful for knocking down structures or blowing large holes into light armor or concrete. IE, fortifications.while there are times that a timed warhead detonating inside is optimal, HEP, or HESH, can provide a means of actually demolishing fortifications that HE struggles to while still having effective terminal effects on people inside said fortifications. It is a niche role, as modern tanks shouldn’t be especially vulnerable to HEP, but it is real. It’s also a round that we really don’t understand all that well compared to say, HEAT munitions. At it’s prime, especially in Israel’s various wars, HESH proved quite effective.
@rolandlee6898
@rolandlee6898 2 жыл бұрын
@@josepetersen7112 It wouldnt transfer more shock. Actually less. A HE with delay would be fully embedded in the wall before detonating, resulting in a higher contact surface area, more pressure and less material between the explosion and the other side of the barrier and thus higher change of breaking through. Pressure always goes the path of least resistance, an in the case of HESH thats away from the target, not into it, making you rely only on the shock front propagation to do damage, which is is not reliable and the effectiveness of that depends on the amount of explosive and properties of the material. The idea that spreading it thin makes it more effective is false. What squashing in HESH is for is to make direct contact with the surface, not to spread as thin as possible, thus allowing the shock front to directly transfer into the target. But that is a very unreliable, inefficient and inconsistent mechanism if you want to do damage. Simple illustration of the difference - putting explosives onto a rock, smear it as you please, and expecting the shock alone to break it or drilling a hole and putting it into the rock? Which one does more damage to the rock? You will quickly realize that the volume and geometry of the charge when putting it into the rock is a far more effective method, even in terms of shock transfer. HESH was a neat idea, but was never effective or better at anything, thats why it never was used by anyone that didnt use a British gun (which itself was trash as well). It made no sense. Brits stuck with it for the same reason they stick to other nonsensical things - national pride and straight up BSing themselves into acceptance and delusions of long gone grandeur. And when it comes to light armor, again, most HE rounds (and their fragmentation) will easily penetrate most light armor and/or cause behind armor effects on contact detonation, and/or cause significant damage to render the vehicle inoperable. As would HESH, but HE/MP is more versatile than HESH... so why would anyone use HESH? Well, they wouldnt - hence they didnt, anywhere, ever. FV4005 itself demonstrates to what levels of absurdity you had to go make it effective.
@andresgolfgti
@andresgolfgti 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your content, as always!
@heimvar
@heimvar 2 жыл бұрын
This new format with the added descriptions is awesome man !
@TheAmazingCowpig
@TheAmazingCowpig 2 жыл бұрын
Your simulations are so comprehensive and informative, you've done our good for our hero 183mm 🅱️ESH
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 2 жыл бұрын
I love these full models with overpressure and having both turret and roof armor penetration modeled
@tomhewitt8017
@tomhewitt8017 2 жыл бұрын
This is some next level stuff, its amazing to see have a glimpse into how these work
@justurordinaryhuman5278
@justurordinaryhuman5278 2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't even need the shrapnel to render that T54 entirely unusable and I kinda find that mind blowing.
@kerbodynamicx472
@kerbodynamicx472 2 жыл бұрын
The shockwave from the 183 was so strong that it shattered the armour. If you are sitting in that turret, it would be even more mind-blowing.
@nolategame6367
@nolategame6367 2 жыл бұрын
@@kerbodynamicx472 literally mind-blowing.
@FuikaMusic
@FuikaMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again!
@namespacestd131
@namespacestd131 2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do Centurion mk 3's 105mm HESH against T-54s? In the Yom Kippur war, the Israeli Centurions used HESH shells against Syrian T-54s. Although I am not sure whether they were Centurion Mk 3 or 5, I'd love to see 105 or 120mm HESH shell effect on Syrian T-54s ( if I have got the facts right).
@rifraf276
@rifraf276 2 жыл бұрын
Neither the Mk3 nor the Mk5 had a 105mm gun though, but i'm pretty sure the Israelis did have 105mm Centurions, just not sure which model it was.
@namespacestd131
@namespacestd131 2 жыл бұрын
@@rifraf276 you're right. Neither the Mk 3 nor the Mk 5 had 105mm guns. They had the 84mm 20 pounder gun. I think it was Centurion mk 10 which was armed with 105mm Royal Ordnance L7A1 gun. I am pretty sure there other variants with L7A1 gun too.
@omnipotank
@omnipotank 2 жыл бұрын
@@namespacestd131 mk 5/2 I believe is the first mark to have it.
@SvenTviking
@SvenTviking 2 жыл бұрын
The Centurions used by Israel in the Yom Kippur war were the “Sho’t kal” versions upgraded with the 105mm gun and a Continental diesel engine.
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be 2 жыл бұрын
@@namespacestd131 In 1973 all IDF Centurions were armed with the 105mm.
@RegulatedMilitia
@RegulatedMilitia 2 жыл бұрын
I think you need to simulate the spin of the rifling for these HESH rounds. The spin plays a part in the effectiveness of HESH
@agoodpfplayer232
@agoodpfplayer232 Жыл бұрын
did u mean BESH?
@raidenthememer4360
@raidenthememer4360 Жыл бұрын
@@agoodpfplayer232 HESH *
@jessh4016
@jessh4016 Жыл бұрын
@@raidenthememer4360 *BESH
@UKrulesSaysMe
@UKrulesSaysMe 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see some battleship type shells vs battleship type armour, see how different big guns would have sized up against different countries premier armour
@JuanMota780
@JuanMota780 2 жыл бұрын
New sub i almost watched all of your videos!
@tfftwhoda9459
@tfftwhoda9459 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great videos like this
@Panzerman65
@Panzerman65 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is the 🅱️ESH
@kimjanek646
@kimjanek646 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure, if that was suggested before but I wonder how effective a 50-250kg bomb (half the weight in TNT) would be against a medium tank of the second WW2 with 30-45mm of side armor, with or without upper hull sponsons. Tiger and Panthers were apperently destroyed by 75mm HE shells hitting below the sponsons, penetrating the sponsons floor armor. I guess side skirts could protect a tank from that happening but might also help to protect the thin armor from the overpressure of a nearby explosion.
@MobiledoPC
@MobiledoPC 11 ай бұрын
"Crew knocked out!"
@jasquerotte9151
@jasquerotte9151 2 жыл бұрын
The analysis is great. Have you ever considered doing a voice reveal? You would have interesting points to go over that are more difficult in only text. Alao love your content man
@CarlGGHamilton
@CarlGGHamilton 2 жыл бұрын
Great work as always, I was wondering if you could be convinced to do a simulation of HEAT and HE hitting builds, to show the difference in effect on such targets. Particularly a comparison of M830 HEAT vs 3OF26 HE-FRAG.
@user-gf6up8st5i
@user-gf6up8st5i 2 жыл бұрын
when I opened the FV4005 in war thunder and wanted to check the damage done to the T-54
@gustavchambert7072
@gustavchambert7072 2 жыл бұрын
What I would love to see is a simulation of the pressure effect of an APHE shell detonating inside a tank. As was shown in testing, the bursting charge does not significantly increase the damage from fragments, as the shrapnel travels along the same line as the hull/shell fragments. This would imply that the bursting charge was not very useful. And yet, all nations bar Britain used them throughout the war, despite such shells being more complex to produce, have less penetration and are more likely to shatter. My hypothesis is that the overpressure from even a small amount of HE-filler, such as is found in a 75mm shell, creates a very powerful pressure effect when detonated in an enclosed space like a tank compartment. I would guess it would be fatal for the crew, but even if is not, it would burst eardrum and cause concussion for sure, thus putting the tank out of action. It would be great to have that tested.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's that the charge isn't powerful, the issue is the charge has to be surrounded by such a thick mass of steel as only a steel shell of very high mass can still punch through armour. High explosives in fact impart a huge amount of energy to this mass of steel but because the mass of steel is so much greater than the mass of a thin walled howitzer shell the fragments are at a relatively low velocity but energy is still huge. Also the timing has to be REALLY good despite extreme deceleration, if it detonates too soon it spoils penetration, too late and it doesn't really increase the cone of fragmentation. The British had been in the fight the longest and had bitter experience of shells detonating too soon so spoiling penetration, I think this caused an institutional aversion that they just couldn't shake off. And they were forced to use shells without HE filler and found - in practice - that they seemed to work far better than theory would suggest. One reason for this is the success of fire on tanks is generally determined by how many shots it takes to ignite the tank's ammunition and overpressure (while very deadly to crews) is far less likely to ignite the ammunition. Also, the British war capacity was probably the most stressed of all the allied powers, it just did not have the size or scale the US or even Soviet production, so adding extra steps like a HE core for their anti-tank ammunition was a substantial cost for them. The USSR had production woes but it was far more an organisational challenge, the Brits just did not have much capacity and needed to cut every corner they could get away with cutting. A HE charge is nice to have, but you can just get away with not having it.
@TheAdaoo7
@TheAdaoo7 Жыл бұрын
"Yea but where the fuck are we gonna find something to shoot it from" FV4005: hey
@samspeed6271
@samspeed6271 2 жыл бұрын
The High Explosive Spongecake, chocolate and Hazelnut shell (HESH). Depending on the tank, I wouldn't be surprised if a near miss would be enough to kill with overpressure. Its mad how powerful that shell is.
@ThePolish2107
@ThePolish2107 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about overpressure, but it's quite probable it would be a mobility kill if it hit close enough to the tracks
@johnhighway9397
@johnhighway9397 2 жыл бұрын
A near miss wouldn't even cause a concussion. Armor is great at resisting and dissipating high explosive pressure. HESH relies almost entirely on a perfect direct impact hit in order to function properly. If the impact is at a great angle, against the thick armor of the T-54, it wouldn't do anything more than leave a scruff mark. If the armor was thin (
@samspeed6271
@samspeed6271 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhighway9397 its 17kg of RDX. You just need to get it in the right postcode! When I say near miss, I mean near. I don't mean dropping the shell 50 yards away, I mean it's about 2 or 3 feet away. I would imagine a thinly armoured vehicle like a BMP or a BTR70 would not take kindly to 17kg of exploding Playdough going off a couple of feet away.
@johnhighway9397
@johnhighway9397 2 жыл бұрын
@@samspeed6271 My good sir, this is not a generic high explosive shell, it's HESH. If you "miss" and hit the ground next to a tank, most of that shell's explosive energy will be directed into the earth. An infantryman might be killed if he's standing next to it, but a tank or APC won't even notice. We aren't putting 17kg of RDX into a box and detonating it. We are directing the explosion towards what the shell is hitting, similar to a shaped charge.
@antonioborzatti9844
@antonioborzatti9844 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhighway9397 that is indeed true, a hesh round would direct most of the energy into the ground, however I believe that this shell in particular has enough residual energy to at least damage a light armored vehicle if close enough, like probably 1 meter away
@McGeistly
@McGeistly 2 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome!
@benracer
@benracer 2 жыл бұрын
It takes out the turret with spalling, and though the driver avoids that, just the pressure takes care of the driver. HESH is truly fearsome.
@peasant8246
@peasant8246 2 жыл бұрын
Can you simulate something similar: 75mm M48 HE exploding after hitting the turret base, under the mantlet, of an early Panther tank? i wanna know if it will be enough to break the 16mm hull top plate and injure the driver.
@rabiealkurba2520
@rabiealkurba2520 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice and detailed simulations, would be cool if you can do a video of an APFSDS shell vs bmp's highly angled upper front plate
@BananasFroggy
@BananasFroggy 2 жыл бұрын
See his S-tank simulations
@Rob-vv5yn
@Rob-vv5yn 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff appreciated
@CetoFreakingKaiba
@CetoFreakingKaiba 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to take into account interior modules or the existence of bulkheads and how they would influence overpressure? Or, since the roof is penetrated, would that be negligible?
@alf3071
@alf3071 2 жыл бұрын
can you test how an already penetrated turret with a hole does if it gets hit with a HE round? will it overpressure inside or is the hole too small to affect this?
@zacharywest2820
@zacharywest2820 2 жыл бұрын
Him: makes highly detailed bullet simulator Me: “bullet go brrrr”
@shanepatrick4534
@shanepatrick4534 2 жыл бұрын
"Big Bada Boom" -- Leeloo "The Fifth Element"
@Joewest2k11
@Joewest2k11 2 жыл бұрын
Stalin :D
@shturm602
@shturm602 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do one with HESH against modern NERA and the RHA+textolite composite used on some Soviet MBTs
@bromine_35
@bromine_35 2 жыл бұрын
Even mostly inacurate or near by indirect hits would be a mobility kill
@prasyaspaceagency7067
@prasyaspaceagency7067 2 жыл бұрын
have you heard about hitboxes?
@loosecrash
@loosecrash Жыл бұрын
great channel.
@ST-ly8uf
@ST-ly8uf 2 жыл бұрын
Can you change the material properties of the algorithm/equation behind the simulation?
@jakolken7131
@jakolken7131 2 жыл бұрын
I overlook the fact of overpressure and spalling a lot, it still blows my mind that you dont neccessarily need to penetrate the armour, just give it a big enough blast to rip the back of it up
@tasman006
@tasman006 2 жыл бұрын
I was reading Zaloga's book Osprey Vanguard # 29 on the M47 and M48 Patton tank pg:30. and even though its not well know mostly they go on about the only American tank battle in Vietnam between PT76 tanks there was another acording to him. Quote from the book: The only other armoured vehicle confrontation in Vietnam occurred later in the war when an M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle mangled an NVA T-54 at close range with a single round of 165mm anti-bunker ammunition. Now I believe him he reads all the archives to make his books but don't understand why its not on Wiki. With this vid I can imagine pretty much the same thing happening with the M728 165mm anti bunker ammunition.
@TuathDeSìth
@TuathDeSìth 2 жыл бұрын
Годное моделирование. Осталось добавить в расчёты влияние броневого подбоя на улавливание вторичных осколков.
@voviy333
@voviy333 2 жыл бұрын
183мм превратит любой танк а мусор. Даже если это не БОПС. Сварные швы все полопаются.
@user-pw7hw3kk7e
@user-pw7hw3kk7e 2 жыл бұрын
@@voviy333 Шов на Т-55 прочнее основной брони.Да и попасть из 183-мм орудия в танк...А больше одного выстрела оно сделать вряд ли сумеет...
@jeffreylmAu
@jeffreylmAu 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what application is this, how do they simulate this or how accurate is the simulation, but i still enjoy the vids...
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 2 жыл бұрын
Is there really a layer of TIN on the flat bit between the upper glacis and the turret face?
@Imperial_Guard2793
@Imperial_Guard2793 2 жыл бұрын
183 mm HESH in sim Take out driver and a bit of damage frome shrapnel 183 mm HESH in War Thunder 50% chance to make your turrent fly away and another one 50% chance to no damage 183 mm HESH in WoT Bring you to another dimension
@a.t6066
@a.t6066 2 жыл бұрын
What about big shells? Such for overpressure of large armor piercing explosive shell on ship compartments? In scenario of heavy cuisers or battle cruisers combat. Is it similar effect?
@abizair1832
@abizair1832 2 жыл бұрын
I love those plastic explosive crumpets, they're downright devastating
@suspicioustomato253
@suspicioustomato253 2 жыл бұрын
what do you use for the simulations kinda wanna try it out
@seta1773
@seta1773 2 жыл бұрын
You can create simulation of steel helmet vs 9mm or bigger ?
@voltigore
@voltigore 2 жыл бұрын
Does T-54 have podboy (antiradiation and spalling protection) or it's added in later models?
@skyguard155
@skyguard155 2 жыл бұрын
It was added in the T-55A varaint.
@shanekhiu9884
@shanekhiu9884 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah T-55A
@jersen5085
@jersen5085 2 жыл бұрын
In this case it won't help
@belgianfried
@belgianfried 2 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Vavrusco we asked about spall liner of T-54/55 series not that sorry
@commitselfdeletus9070
@commitselfdeletus9070 7 ай бұрын
It’s good to remember that overpressure doesn’t necessarily need to kill the crew to knock them out. It can still rupture eardrums and that kind of stuff
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus 7 ай бұрын
They test fired a few of these at a Conqueror tank and even hits that never defeated the armour pretty much wrecked all the equipment inside the vehicle!
@Jean-bs5ip
@Jean-bs5ip 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do it also for the L7 105 guns Hesh round? Very curious about that thanks
@hawkstable8889
@hawkstable8889 2 жыл бұрын
We should also remember that even non lethal overpressure will knock you around a good bit and potentially cause blunt trauma
@hawkstable8889
@hawkstable8889 2 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: How to turn foreign people into mashed potatoes
@renzjosephremo4143
@renzjosephremo4143 2 жыл бұрын
can you do MAUS 128mm gun APCBC against M1 Abrams upper plate surely this would be interesting for me
@bebra1999.
@bebra1999. 2 жыл бұрын
wow GREAT VIDEOS!!! but I would like to hear sound effects, for greater realism
@commanderdon4300
@commanderdon4300 7 ай бұрын
So the driver is splattered and the turret crew are minced...
@markopolo1271
@markopolo1271 15 күн бұрын
Reduced to a pink paste
@JH-lo9ut
@JH-lo9ut 2 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: Any surviving crew member are likely temporarely disabled due to involuntary bowel movement.
@501Mobius
@501Mobius 2 жыл бұрын
What thickness turret armor would resist the 183mm HESH?
@antonosogaspador
@antonosogaspador 7 ай бұрын
It would be cool to see the position of crew members and different components of the tank so we can better understand what’s going on
@sprototles
@sprototles 6 ай бұрын
if there are some shrapnels inside turrets "likely" to injure crew, you could add note like: btw this small piece of shrapnel is going 50m/s or so
@emmanuellim155
@emmanuellim155 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@eb3yr
@eb3yr Жыл бұрын
How does hitting the hull at the front and sides compare?
@timtarbet4594
@timtarbet4594 2 жыл бұрын
Dumb question here, but how complicated would it be to model both turret and roof simultaneously? Is it even possible? Does the amount of time necessary to run the simulation make it prohibitive?
@macieksoft
@macieksoft 2 жыл бұрын
Had FV4005 autoloader, or was that round more dangerous to FV4005 loader than to any enemy vehicle? Loading > 72kg round (add the weight of the powder charge) seems like a good way to break many bones and perhaps a foot (if you drop it even steel nose shoes won't help much). On the other hand (literally other hand, because you are likely to break at least one hand when handling that thing) if you can handle the round you are then a real men.
@user-gt1yj8mh9p
@user-gt1yj8mh9p 2 жыл бұрын
Интересная модель расчётов. Вот только в танковом бою побеждает тот кто раньше цель увидел…
@aldonurkayam4912
@aldonurkayam4912 2 жыл бұрын
Dan tank powerfull .....
@tahmkench118
@tahmkench118 Жыл бұрын
Except the FV4005 operates well beyond the range of it's intended targets.
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 2 жыл бұрын
The HESH round always seems so brutal!
@rafulrichkovalesky-royek2050
@rafulrichkovalesky-royek2050 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays it's obsolete against modern ballistic protection.
@XxMrsalsatenangoxX
@XxMrsalsatenangoxX 6 ай бұрын
​@@rafulrichkovalesky-royek2050 launches it above the mantlet*
@user-np4cm4bc9c
@user-np4cm4bc9c 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that very cool, but what the program?
@spookith
@spookith 2 жыл бұрын
how do you make these simulations
@YD2K00
@YD2K00 2 жыл бұрын
How you do this simulations?
@darkninjacorporation
@darkninjacorporation 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool, but I'm sorry that I just can't stop chuckling every time the High Explosive Expanding Milk kills a tank
@stefanogalliano5634
@stefanogalliano5634 2 жыл бұрын
As we've seen already, in the times in which overpressure is fatal the shrapnel would have been too
@guilhermesada5840
@guilhermesada5840 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make one of the conqueror HESH hiting a T-62 turret, i like your videos btw.
@chelseagrey9166
@chelseagrey9166 2 жыл бұрын
ugh this is so cool
@taxcollector8597
@taxcollector8597 2 жыл бұрын
Turned that turret crew into a fine red paste
@GRAN_EME
@GRAN_EME 2 жыл бұрын
what r u using a damn gts 450? make the symulation bigeeeer
@VoldraLightningfrost
@VoldraLightningfrost Жыл бұрын
Someone please suggest me a decent software for simulating physics and fluids, what's the lowest spec software to do that as I has a potato pc
@hasbenyek5370
@hasbenyek5370 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about aphe hits on 2000 Ms ???? I'm curious
@abrung73
@abrung73 2 жыл бұрын
What do you use to run these simulations? Is it like an application, or editing?
@BananasFroggy
@BananasFroggy 2 жыл бұрын
Check out what Finite Element Analysis is, and Abaqus software. 5 years in college will do the trick, as starters.
@fabio6170
@fabio6170 2 жыл бұрын
Hey can u sim the pikenose armor of the is 3?
@angry_zergling
@angry_zergling 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be intensely interested in seeing the path of the spall fragments for a longer period of time. Or does it become unrealistically difficult to render further down the timeline with a bunch of them bouncing off of everything and one another?
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
I think this takes an absurdly long time to calculate, it's checking for interactions that just aren't happening once the spall has separated from the plate.
@angry_zergling
@angry_zergling 2 жыл бұрын
@@Treblaine You're probably right. I think I remember the author of this channel or one like it had once commented that it takes about 24 hours with a really good PC for a ten-ish second simulation, and the rendering time goes up exponentially the longer the simulation goes on because additional stuff (more damage, more spalling, more of the shell breaking apart, etc) needs to be accounted for the longer the simulation goes on.
@pinngg6907
@pinngg6907 2 жыл бұрын
Love when gaijin implement OPpressure everyone try to figure out what's happen
@duncanmcgee13
@duncanmcgee13 2 жыл бұрын
Driver/Radio Op: *crushed then fried* Commander/Gunner/Loader: *shredded*
@vz60ify
@vz60ify 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice silumation, but what you forget is balistic nylon which is used inside T54 and T55 as a last line of defense for catching fragments from solid steel armour. It has about 40mm and all tanks which we used in CzechoSlovakia was equipped by this. Im not sure if mask of canon has it too, but entire turrent and shasi was covered by this. Did you count with that?
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 2 жыл бұрын
If spall is the only real threat the turret crew face, then it is impossible damage all of them. There is a big breech between the loader side and the tc/gunner side. Is it possible to look at would the explosion be severe enough to cause projectile in the hull fuel tank stowage explode?
@Ravenheartless322
@Ravenheartless322 2 жыл бұрын
Spall not the simulations also showed pressure caused by the explosion which traveled through interior of tank and in the sim ripped the driver hatch open of spall didnt kill driver the pressure above his head would cause his skull be crushed
@rayotoxi1509
@rayotoxi1509 2 жыл бұрын
Now BMD Vs 3OF26 With impact fuse and slight delay fuse pls
@_gungrave_6802
@_gungrave_6802 2 жыл бұрын
While hesh from the FV4005 stage 2 is interesting you should do one for other british vehicles like the conquerer heavy tank and the mk 5 Centurion onwards which used a 105mm.
@hamiltondossantos1790
@hamiltondossantos1790 2 жыл бұрын
This, is pure science.
@blackburnmichelson6189
@blackburnmichelson6189 2 жыл бұрын
what are your pc spesifications
@LenArtAnimations
@LenArtAnimations Жыл бұрын
What software is this
@Ashaweshk
@Ashaweshk 2 жыл бұрын
WG logic. "WE DIDN'T PENETRATE THEIR ARMOR" having 0 effect on the crew lmao
@louisdancie7729
@louisdancie7729 2 жыл бұрын
go play a real game aka WT :P
@Ashaweshk
@Ashaweshk 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisdancie7729 i dont even play WoT or WT anymore lmao
@jk844100
@jk844100 2 жыл бұрын
HE splash can still injure crew members. Especially from artillery. In fact I have a replay saved where I was playing the Rinoceronte and my driver got killed by artillery splash that did 0 damage.
@TheOrdomalleus666
@TheOrdomalleus666 Жыл бұрын
Ok, this is the realistic hit on a T-54 but does there exist any armour thickness that would be immune to this effect, regardless how impossible to fit on an actual tank?
@EcchiRevenge
@EcchiRevenge 2 жыл бұрын
What about spall liner? T-55A...etc. should have boron-oxide NBC liner that doubles as spall liner like those of T-72.
@danivvarrett3871
@danivvarrett3871 2 жыл бұрын
Hi!!! YOU MAKE THIS ANIMATION IN BLENDER?????
@TheFrontlineWatcher
@TheFrontlineWatcher 2 жыл бұрын
that`s a big shot indeed
@ayb2337
@ayb2337 2 жыл бұрын
Wow cool..wht is the software
@wisedonkey7644
@wisedonkey7644 2 жыл бұрын
could you do M103 120mm AP vs T-55 turret or hull?
@SergeiPetrov
@SergeiPetrov 2 жыл бұрын
@marton titi The ashes of the KV2 hit the heart of its designer.
@SergeiPetrov
@SergeiPetrov 2 жыл бұрын
@marton titi KV-2 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KV-2
@annonYk
@annonYk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, BeSh ThEm
@connorgormly3236
@connorgormly3236 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool
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