IT IS WAR.

Well he kinda was 🙄

Remember the words of Aristoteles to Alexander the Great: This man has a boat he is called a pirate, this other has 100 boats he is called an admiral.

@FXNetworks, if the show is consistently this perfect, it deserves to have the story expanded beyond the ‘Shogun’ book. I’ve witnessed a masterpiece and I want more (greedy perhaps, but what do you expect when facing perfection?)

@@BBD1 really not pirate. He was a corsair, with the right / marquese - to attack and plunder spanish and portuguese. None other! it WAS a cheap sort of warfare for the state. So for the spaniards he was a pirate, but not for any others, as Japan... So he could explain this more clearly than here, now when he had 2 interpretors. His problem was, Japan WERE in coalition with spanish / protuguse, sort of,

Of course, he IS playing the role of a trained, experienced, gifted interpretor. But yeah, he plays his role perfectly - I trust your description.

@@barneydenstad2148 I know what you mean. If he is playing the part, one would reason he doesn´t have to know the meaning of the words he is memorizing for this scene. But judging by his accent, intonation, and fluency, it seems to me that he is actually a western who did learn Japanese before playing this role. If am mistaken, then all the more reason to admire his professionalism. I have seen countless Hollywood movies where the western characters spoke with butchered Japanese despite the role considering them "experts", and even "Japanese characters" (usually Asian actors not from Japan) speaking weird Japanese. This series is a blow of fresh air, where I feel like I am watching a "Taika dorama" (Japanese historic dramas) airing in NHK.

I'm glad to see that someone's trying to provide a reasonable representation of a foreign culture, because the unique differences that makes them unique is what makes them interesting. But, I guarantee you that my mimicking of Toshiro Mifune's gruff voice will not be recognizable by anyone from Japan, unfortunately! 🤣👍

This is cool to hear.

I believe you. Can you suggest any books that might help me to learn Japanese? It's a beautiful country and culture and I've always been very curious about learning this language.

That transition was seamless. So masterfully done.

It helps to shorten the story, and make the discussion easy to follow,,,

Yeah, very good directing decision, after they establish that the Priest will not twist the words, so we viewers can ignore him when Blackthrone and Toranaga talk to each other.

@@Arkkimonni I seem to recall, in the 1980 version, they did show the more tedious inter-translating sequences, and it did take longer to get through the conversation....

通訳がいたと言う前提で2ヶ国語をミックスさせたこの演出は素晴らしいですね

Aristotle.

@@Shamino1 Arseturtle

@@denisrivarola2387 Arsentitle

@@CrniWuk Arsenio

Sue-crates.

The way I see it is, he is starting to realize just how big the world really is.

Toranaga is truly one of the smartest men in all of fiction. Never lost a battle, and it shows.

First time hearing that name. Is he Nobunaga?

Ieyasu apparently

@@condorX2 no, Goroda is mentioned sometimes as the former leader of Japan, he was killed before the events of story and that's who Nobunaga is based on. Mariko's dad, Akechi Jinsai, had Goroda assassinated.

they picked the perfect date to air it

Nah, it’s not pink enough. No famous actors & not enough boobs so probably not. 😅

Unfortunately shows that air in the spring never get any nominations. Besides if white lotus comes out this year forget it.

It's a shame there is no Emmy equivalent to the Oscar for constume design.

It's decent. It's not _that_ good.

My daughter in law is a Tokyo girl but now an Australian citizen. She was a trained high school history teacher in her homeland. She tells me that this series so far is a highly authentic depiction of feudal Japan.

Same here. But what I dislike so far, is the pace of the show.

I think some would call this a "knowing" or "scheming/plotting" face, though I don't know if we have a specific term for the expression.

You should. It’s pretty wild tbh

I always was, mostly the time of Sengoku Jidai and Fall of the Tokugawa Shogunate in XIX century. I can blame certain Total War games for that and also books related to the topic. Overal the show is great, in certain ways it actually improves on the original series. Book is also a recommended read, Clavell writes quite historically accurate books, though he self-admittedly plays with a lot of facts, basing his characters on real people, but also changing other stuff. It's still entertaining, but it's not a historical documentary so keep that in mind.

So this is based off the novel Shogun which is based off the historical character William Adams?

@@shawnoconnor4633 Yeah, the book romanticize his life and many things are different from the historical records.

no. you only watch this show for the white dude. hypocrisy and racism at its finest: complains about black people replacing white actors, but don't mind whites being a main character in asian movies.

So glad Blackthorne wasn't gender swapped in a "daring" re-imagining of the story.

I was hoping for no woke indications, and so far, i am pleased to say the least.@@catsupchutney

First movie you watched?

@@StevenLeeStudiosThe directors and producers said they want this show to be as authentic as possible, both to the book and Japanese history.

ya dont say???@@T-h-a-t_G-u-y

She could've just said Priest or father but she used Padre which is what portuguese calls them, indicating the whole sequence is in portuguese not english

Except the sequence was not in Portugese

​@@aimanmarzuqi4804in the show, when you hear english they're actually speaking portugese

@@aimanmarzuqi4804 The conceit of the English dialogue is that it's portoguese. I believe also he speaks "Dutch" with a Dutchman when he's locked up and it's in English as well.

it's not portugese, nor portoguese, it's Portuguese, ffs.

FX usually delivers

if FX isn't considered "Hollywood" then nothing is lmao.

Who's the Portuguese person??

I'm skeptical they can remake the 80s version without inserting a homeaux agenda.

It’s good but slow down with the ‘masterpiece’ we are four episodes in

i live in Munich: the centre of the counter-reformation. In the city centre is St Michael's Church; a Jesuit church. Next to it was a Jesuit training college - where they would train missionaries like in this clip, but also to go into Britain to try and stir things up. If caught, they faced agonising deaths.

Yep, this was only a decade or so after the Spanish Armada debacle.

@@brandonday2494 And the English attempt to place Don Antonio on the Portuguese throne. People forget that up until Spain took over Portugal in 1580 the Portuguese had traditionally been English allies, despite the religious differences.

The book covers all of this in such detail, sadly, all the nuances and backstory of these characters will not be shown because it would take too long. If you have not read the book, I strongly urge all interested in this truly remarkable tale to buy it and read it. The show doesn’t take away from reading it after viewing. Such much backstory to these characters

Yeah there is plenty more depth to the book, for sure. That's just how it goes. But I'd definitely recommend reading the book, and for the true history, Sengoku Jidai by Danny Chaplin is a great starting point.@@horacebond9394

Byzantine Empire was long gone by this time.

Eastetn Roman Empire was no more in 1600 😂😂😂😂 Unless you meant the Greek Orthodox Church

@@1412Bunny Yep, the Turks took care of than by than.

Let's just say Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox which covers a lot.

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@@MusicismoreImportant happy freedom day my portuguese brotha

The scene plays out almost like a game of chess. The floor is square panels, you have the lord at the end of the room/board as the king, his daughter who speaks both languages/moves any direction as the queen, and his soldiers on the edges like rooks. The priest enters the room and moves like a knight. Blackthorn always moves straight ahead like a pawn, which normally would die early on, but every now and then you get the pawn that makes it to the other side and becomes a named piece, like when he’s named hatamoto in episode 3

@@sgttoasterface5282 Mariko is not Toronaga's daughter. She's a weapon.

Toranaga is playing chest with blackthorn as one of his pieces be real

Toranaga looks more like a Shogi player to me.

The Jesuits were master chess players, when it came to statecraft and politics.

I have to disagree. No disrespect, he is playing it well. It is just, when you saw the first movie with Richard Chamberlain, read the book and expect a roughneck as captain and see instead a babyface....it is disappointing. Sounds mean, but he is just the wrong chap for this particular job

@@paulhoffmann4521 I much prefer Cosmo Jarvis so far to Richard Chamberlain's portrayal of Blackthorne. I believe Jarvis' portrayal is hampered by the changes in how scenes are being portrayed: Focusing on the 'purity of women' rather than drunkenly dancing and pissing off the guards, or failing to point at the Priest and shout "TEKI!" and so on, are stylistic choices that neuter the possibilities Cosmo Jarvis has to really demonstrate Blackthorne's character.

@@paulhoffmann4521 Yeah, I feel the same way. But I grew up with the Shogun from the 1980s and Chamberlain's portrayal. I will say this - with each viewing I find it easier and easier to accept Jarvis in the role. I do like this remake.

@@Shamino1 He does everything right. It is just the looks that - in my opinion - don't match the character of John Blackthorne. He just looks too soft, like a schoolboy, for that role

Well, real sailors werent like Chamberlain - softspoken and clean looking. Jarvis is more fitting in historical context.

You spoiled Americans, you.

they have pretty good English voiceover if you're interested, though I prefer subtitles

@maaz322thank I know thanks. this is prob one of the very rare times I'd rather have the subs. The authenticity would be ruined with dubs.

Why are you so happy they are trying hard to denigrate the portuguese catholic by distorting history here

Despite being a work of literature, the author James Clavell, probably out of envy at the success of the Portuguese in their relationship with the Japanese, tried to denigrate the image of the Portuguese, to promote his book. unfortunately this type of behavior is normal in Anglo-Saxon culture.

@@alexandrefernandes7444 There's literally nothing to be envious of Portugal lol. He obviously researched William Adams and found a very interesting story to tell. Adams was English and the Catholics were the enemies of England. It's not hard to understand.

​@@AFGuidesHDPortugal quite literally opened the doors for colonial expansion, there is a lot to envy, just like Spain or Britain were great Portugal was great aswell

​​@@valeriodelaurentiis5614oh careful, praising Colonialism in today's political correct/ woke world might get you lot of hatred 😅😅.

I've watched Shogun with Richard Chamberlain, legend Toshiro Mifune and Yoko Shimada at the age of 11...i instantly disliked Father Alvito into #1 place into the original series..there was something sneaky, fishy from that character, i couldn't stand.

^ 100% agree. I knew as soon as he appeared on my screen that he was going to be a sneaky little rat. Glad Mirako-sama was here to make sure he couldn’t mistranslate Blackthorne’s words.

@@bradleye660 The irony is, of course, that he turns out to be one of the most straightforward and honest character in the show. Albeit one stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I think it is good they chose the story of William Adams.

To my knowledge England and Portugal have never been at war. Treaty of Windsor

@@allyup3404 they were under Spanish crown during this time. which was at war with England so yes they have.

@@MrThhg Correct. Portugal wouldn't get its independence from Spain until I think 50-60 years after the show, and having Blackthorne as a privateer from Holland also is VERY accurate given how much damage the Dutch dealt to portugal's empire in southeast asia, which was the catalyst for Portugal declaring independence from spain later on.

You beat me too it. The treaty of Windsor was signed in 1382 and is the longest in history

Someone mentioned that the conflict is likely the 80 year war, which saw Portugal and England at war as opposing allies to other nations, with Portugal being in the Iberian Union and therefore basically Spain in terms of foreign policy.

At the time , 1600, Portugal was a vassal of Spain (1580-1640) having been conquered by Phillip II (he of the Armada) who crowned himself Philip I of Portugal.

Do so. I've read the novel and have the original series on Blu-Ray. The production values and performances in this are superb.

Orthodox Christianity was Eastern European, and there are no Eastern Europeans on this show.

centuries later, they will learn about the religion of the roshia-jin

He bows in capitulation. He understands that he is in a foreign country with no friends and that his religious enemies are his only means of communicating. He's prostrating himself before the Lord to demonstrate that he understands he is fully at the mercy of Toranaga and his Japanese hosts. Toranaga smiles because although he is a total stranger to Japanese rules, etiquette, and courtly customs, his bow of capitulation is in line with courtly behaviors and is a sign of his integration into the power-dynamics of Japanese society.

@@Shamino1That was extremely well said. Thanks!

@@Shamino1 Yes, well said, but Toronaga smiling is a nod to Blackthorne's wiley intelligence.

@@weffyj6427 Which is inferred through the language I utilized in my description. But yes, I appreciate you spelling it out more clearly for the grade-school readers.

He is bowing out of respect, and to some degree, to accentuate the fact that he is speaking the truth. Moreover, by bowing such that his head touches the floor, he is recognizing (and accepting) the "great" difference in position. Prior to the Meiji Restoration of the Emperor in 1868 (basically reestablishing government by the Emperor away from the Samurai Class), commoners were required to prostrate themselves on the ground (including the head and not looking up at anyone) whenever a Samurai Lord's procession passed. It should be noted that the Samurai class was not at the very top of Japanese society. The true royals in Japan were an extremely minute number by birth, and constituted what many refer to as the Noble Class that included the Emperor. The Samurai were the warrior class below the nobles, and were expected to show due deference to them. (Note: Using the English tern "noble" for accuracy sake, should not be used for those from the Samurai Class. The Samurai were warriors, not Royals.). Hence, Toranaga is apparently smiling because Blackthorn is paying him due respect, in the same manner as any other Japanese warrior or citizen of lower rank.

I just commented the same exact thing lol. Toranaga is too clever. Although at this point in the show he has no evidence to distrust the Portuguese, he does sense something is amiss & plays it masterfully.

He has a Letter of Marque from Holland... he's an active combatant in the Eighty Years War not a "pirate" (which the show has so far managed to not handle well.)