May I ask, which did you decide on, and why? Just curious..thx!

@@philpritchard5173 the Aputure setup, I can deal with the minor chromatic aberations for having a more versatile spotlight mount that only requires one lens. Plus it has a standard gobo size unlike a certain other projector mount. I was leaning towards the Forza before due to cost saving, but this is worth the extra spent for convenience.

I'm definitely keeping two Forza 60s with 19⁰ spotlights for long controlled throws into backgrounds. Mainly because they are over 3 times brighter and takes up very little space in the van. In my large van that's all I keep the Forza 60Bs for because I'm not a fan of their white point. Given that I'm already set up with a projector kit for my Dedo lights that has 8 lenses, that I use for my close work, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with this Aputure kit. I'm definitely keeping it, it's too good to sell.

@@gaffergear Thanks for the reply. Yes, I see the conundrum, each has their merits. I guess it all depends on what ones needs it for. Appreciate the feedback.

Thanks

Never do that

I haven't used this one specifically, but it looks like a lot that are out there, advantage is zero colour fringing, disadvantage is very minimal light output.

I was worried about this too, the latch has a very strong lock, but if I had a v-mount attached I would run the light mounted on its side or upside down (which the lights air venting is designed to do).

If running in full spot so a bit of cinefoil may be the go. Its definitely not as contained as a theatre ellipsoidal

@@gaffergear Thanks Andrew.

In this case it's the amount of glass that is reducing the output. The 60d and 60x already have lenses built in. Plus we then have the additional glass in the spotlight mount.

Yep, no colour fringing at all. My kit consists of 2 Dedo projectors and two godox projectors that I use on my Dedo lights, with a total of 8 lenses. But this kit is not bright enough for much else apart from close work. It gets used maybe 3 times a year.

Have a look at the Forza 60 projectors, small and powerful.

With a v-mount battery my light skews to one side big time. It only just sits in place with the transformer

@@gaffergear such a bummer.

Yes

@@gaffergear Thxs. Merci

The larger spotlight because it floods to 36

Dedo, the small godox projectors, Forza 60 maybe. If you can't get a small enough dot with an iris, use some cinefoil in the gobo holder and punch a small hole in it.

@@gaffergear thanks so much Andrew :)

Dedo uses projector lenses, as in slide or video projector lenses. Dedo and the small godox projectors are clean, as is the optical snoot from Prolycht. Trade off is brightness thou.

Centre of the beam won't change lux with the iris or if you blade the beam on the edges.

@@gaffergear thank you!

@@gaffergear one more question Andrew. If I use the iris to create a smaller circle (spot), would it be similar to having a smaller spot like the DLED? Or can you see the iris blades, etc. Thank you so much.

@@MatthewChenDirector it would depend how out of focus you have it set to. But out of focus you may get colour freying

Different diameter mounts

Doubt it

Cleaner optics (because it's a smaller source) easier to use with the zoom spot. But nowhere near a bright.

It doesn't look like it will be a problem, I was worried about this too initially, but you can always rotate the light upside down so the clip has no weight on it

@@gaffergear Thanks for the reply. And is the light cool enough to use plastic gobos, or would you only use steel?

@@Trevellian Steel

The 60D and 60X already have a 45 degree lens as standard so it’s not like an open COB light where your are pushing nearly 180 degrees worth of light into a much more concentrated beam. The other major factor is the F-stop of the Zoom lens. It’s like a camera lens a Zoom will always have a higher F-stop which lets in less light vs. a prime lens. Maybe this zoom lens is F4 where the 300D spotlight mount could be F1.8?

Thanks Chris, now it makes sense!

Very different tools, I have a seperate video on the Nanlite

Firstly, It would actually be less than 40% of the light output if you were to match the beam angle - this lights native flood is 45 degrees. The spotlight is 30 degrees at full flood so keep that in mind. Secondly, generally speaking, only lights that don’t already have a lens system built in will see an increase in light output. This is because the beam angle is being concentrated down from about a 120 degrees to something as narrow as 36 degrees or 19 degrees or even less. This concentration of light overcomes the losses you get by making the light travel through more glass. With a light that has a built in lens system like a Dedo or this Aputure you have already concentrated the beam down to a 45 degree beam (60 degrees for DLED 7). So when you measure the light output of the bare light versus with the spotlight on it is only narrowing the beam by a much smaller amount - sometimes this small amount of extra concentration is not enough to actually increase brightness and overcome the losses associated with extra glass. With this particular aputure accessory the brightness is also further reduced because the spotlight has a Zoom function. This means the F-stop of the lense will be higher - maybe F4 compared to an F2.8 or lower on other spotlight mount systems. Aputure has traded brightness for convenience and flexibility in this case. If you want the brightest output for the lowest power draw, the nanlite spotlight mount for the 60 series of lights is the most efficient I have seen.

I have an answer further down but Chris has already said exactly the same thing.

@@gaffergear thank you!

@@gaffergear I wish you would update this video. Just bought two of these with 60x's and aside from the low level output, the clip that holds the light in place cannot hold the weight, the light slides down out of alignment with the lens. Very disappointing and not mentioned. The light can be placed upside down, but then the display and controls are also. Also the focus is difficult to control when horizontal, but almost impossible when the light is at an angle, which is most of the time. Imagine setting it then having to level it before you can refocus? Messed up! Is there anything that might smooth the action? I've had them for 2 days and I'm wondering if I should return them instead. Since I based my purchase on your video recommend, I'd like to get your opinion. Will I have to grease it up and clip it together after a year? I was going to get 60d's to increase output, but if the clips fail then it's all a big waste of money. Thanks for your help and great videos.

@@kurtvanzo5464 are you locking the clip when you put it in place. The lock slides forwards or backwards, I can't r member which. Try focusing with both hands. I lock the tilt in place and then use both hands, one underneath to lift, and one on too to find position.