Gaggia PID XMT7100(no name) Vs. Auber intrashot stability

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Gaggia PID XMT7100(no name) Vs. Auber intrashot stability

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3 жыл бұрын

Comparison for temperature stability during the shot between a cheap Aliexpress PID controller Vs. PID kit from Auber. Real temperature has offset -8°C. I use 16g ground coffee and same baskets for both machines. Static brew pressure is adjusted to 9.5bar for both as well.
Settings on both are:
P: 4.0/I: 60/D: 15/Souf: 0.2/ot: 2/Psb: - 008

Пікірлер: 24

@piotrmaciejewski2639 7 ай бұрын

Thank you… I did not expect a different result

@panikpas 5 ай бұрын

The PID does not seems to be well set on the left one. We can see it going down to 93 and not going back to 94 in few seconds. The P or the D is probably not set correctly.

@marcin_szczurowski 3 жыл бұрын

I use the same cheap controller on Ascaso Arc and it's very responsive. The only problem I have is relatively slow heating up from room temperature, it heats a bit more than 50% of the time and I'd wish constant heating up to about 70C. I'll probably have to tweak parameters by hand.

@victorbrewseverywhere 3 жыл бұрын

yes Auber use custom algorithm for starting up the machine up to 75C(always on) but this controller is universal, not a big issue though.

@Conservator. Жыл бұрын

Yes, you can tweak these universal PIDs. Search for XTM7100 manual and you’ll learn how to set the P, I and D parameters and the full on parameter which is the one you’d like to change.

@TheZt4cy Жыл бұрын

Приятелю, те и двата са XMT 7100. Но хубаво видео въпреки това.

@myhalil2131 2 жыл бұрын

hi man. what do you think about gaggia classic. what comes in my mind that boiler is aluminium and group head is brass and it is not desirable . do you know what happening when combine these two metal? corrosian? give your thoughts

@CH-yp5by 2 жыл бұрын

I know you asked the guy the question but you can easily find out that brass and aluminium are two of the worst metals to put together as you get eventually get galvanic corrosion especially under high heat,. However, you will find that the Gaggia classics with the Aluminium boiler actually have a stainless steel group head that come with a aluminium plate for the shower screen with replacements you can buy as either brass or stainless steel. Brass is better for maintaining consistent heat, stainless is good as well but not as good and aluminium is just crap.

@thedude4795 Жыл бұрын

im of the impression that the group head on my pre-2015 machine is aluminium. *NOTE* Oh its chromed brass

@emanuelemontoro4182 Жыл бұрын

Hi, any chance to get the wiring diagram to connect pid xmt7100 to an old Gaggia Classic. Thanks in advance

@jamiedesjardins9194 9 ай бұрын

Weird mine drops like 10 degrees

@tatjanabresnevd3405 2 жыл бұрын

hey, do you have a instruction manual to install the pid on those older machines? i only have one for the newer one with 3 seperated switches.

@piotrmaciejewski2639 7 ай бұрын

I have one for rancilio silvia if you still need it…I’d assume it’s the same for gaggia classis

@philstork775 6 ай бұрын

@@piotrmaciejewski2639 do you have the Auber PID or a Alibaba PID for the Silvia?

@seesaw7289 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the red and blue coffee logo on the right Gaggia? Thx!

@victorbrewseverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

from other old school Gaggia :)

@thedude4795 Жыл бұрын

I know nobody asked but I removed my logo, and I think it looks cleaner that way :) Sure there are three little holes, but I can mount a manometer or something one day :)

@Serrajimed 3 жыл бұрын

hello can you give me the link to buy the pid because for me the price of Auber is very exaggerated. thank you.

@victorbrewseverywhere 3 жыл бұрын

Hello there, here you can find all the components used for xmt7100 installation: coffeeforums.bg/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1146

@Serrajimed 3 жыл бұрын

@@victorbrewseverywhere thanks you btother. Very nice your vidz i like it

@dsiddiqui5111 3 жыл бұрын

Where are you measuring the temp? If 94 is at the boiler h then wouldn’t the brew head be LESS 8 degrees? You said 102. Thanks for the clarification.

@victorbrewseverywhere 3 жыл бұрын

@@dsiddiqui5111 Sensors are positioned on place of the standard thermostat(107°C) near to the heating element so difference is around 8°C, same number is set in the PID as offset.

@dsiddiqui5111 3 жыл бұрын

@@victorbrewseverywhere hi. So ultimately after inputting the 8 degree or so temp offset in the settings, I should set the desired set value in PiD to what I wish to brew at? Thanks for the update.