Yeah, it has to be the actual arcade rom for the reasons you stated. I’m thinking it’s using a small emulator program + the rom and certain anomalies such as the sound being a bit off at times may just be something such as a combination of the emulation maybe not being 100% along with the tinny speakers rather than being due to a rewrite. Either way, I’ll definitely be buying this unit now. I’m really impressed with this new Pro lineup from My Arcade and I definitely want to support these in the hopes they do even more units with arcade roms such as Dig Dug (and arcade accurate games from other companies like Taito if anybody from My Arcade is reading this 😉).

That's what you'd THINK but all their other games that SEEM to be running the arcade ROMs are frequently missing bugs and AI behaviors and they also all feature new copyright text on the main screen. Like in Ms.Pac-Man the ghosts don't always turn around when you eat the power pellet, and when you chomp multiple stacked ghosts it doesn't pause for each one, it acts like you only ate the one ghost. The UFO in Space Invaders also was missing some scoring element.

No, these are arcade ports in Sega genesis, the Pac-Man one was custom made itself.

That's not quite true. You can do it on the right side as well. What prevents the enemy shot from being cleared from memory is if it reaches the bottom of the screen when it is off-screen, either on the left or right. It doesn't have to be a horizontal position of 0...just one of the positions that is not part of the visible play area. You will notice that when a shot or an enemy flies off one side of the screen, it reappearing on the other side is not instantaneous. There is a slight delay. This is because there is a hidden area (however many pixels wide) that is in-between. If it reaches the bottom while still inside that in between area, it is stuck in memory.

​@@FUGP72your both wrong. Here is why

Same here...LOL

Im pretty sure that's the exact arcade rom running on an emulator on that device. So should be arcade perfect along with all the bugs and exploits that came with it.

Well, guess what! 😉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gsqid5mm1sqqh5s.html

Thanks for the kind words!

For sure!

That's wrong. Although I almost got kicked out for using the joust bug too.

Did you get there?

Totally did - the rom ”downgrade” was the finishing touch 😄

Now i cant get that image out of my head of a naked man fixing an arcade machine...

That makes a ton of sense.

You bet!

Glad you enjoyed it

You're right on. This no-shoot bug only appears on the first version of the ROM. Future revisions (including those most likely used in Multicades & Barcades) corrected the counter overflow error that caused it. 😁

I mocked one up for them - did you happen to catch that video? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sN5yi8h8nq_Xqps.html

Thanks! 😀

I expect I'll get to it eventually. I picked it up shortly after I found this one at a thrift store. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d5-JZr2Bv73FY58.html

@@GenXGrownUp Good stuff, I love these little things. I'll be looking forward to seeing your take on it.

That's cool. My understanding is it has to do with the number of bullets fired reaching >255, so it may have taken longer, but I can understand how that might work. I've just always heard it said that it requires both left bees, and I don't feel like waiting any longer that absolutely necessary. 😉

@@GenXGrownUp Aaaaaah. 255. Makes sense!

No, still no high score saving.

No. It was in Galaga.

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Come on, tri-focals, a magnifying glass and a head mounted magnifier and you’re fine. Geez.

When I say, "it's been about six minutes," they stopped shooting in the next couple of minutes. So under 10 minutes in my test.

Thank you! Cheers!

Yeah, those bees love to box you into the corners or catch you when they do those little loop-de-loops around your fighter!

Thanks! I have the Mega Man units, just haven't gotten to reviewing them yet. I'll get there!

Speaking of Namco Museum... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qd52pqam28jbpp8.html

As we all collectively chip away at all the clues, my current (non-technical) theory is that we're still working with that Genesis-on-a-chip engine, but perhaps using decompiled/recompiled game ROM. I'm pretty confident this isn't 100% accurate, but lots of smarter people than me have led me to this current hypothesis.

@@GenXGrownUp It does seem like something along those lines, like a direct conversion of the arcade source code to run on the hardware

Haha!

For a display piece, it's the Micro Player Pro all the way, but for playability, the Pocket Pro has it over all the others.

​@@GenXGrownUpperfect! Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. Was sort of leaning in a pocket player direction already, but you've confirmed it for me.

I think missing a headphone jack for one. I believe the software and included games to be identical.

You're right about the headphone jack: I just posted my review and it didn't occur to me to mention it. You'll notice that the total number of games listed on the box is not the same (75 vs. 100), as was the case previously in your own "Nano vs. Micro" comparisons.

You mean the bug? He explains it. You just have to keep the 2 left-most bees alive (you can do it with 1 and it is easier to dodge any rare bullets that might get you, but it takes longer) and wait for a long time. The bug works because the game can only have 8 enemy shots on screen at the same time. When a shot gets to the bottom of the screen, it is cleared from memory. However, as he showed in the video, sometimes enemy fire wraps around from one side of the screen to the other. And it is also not an instantaneous wraparound. There is a slight "in between" area off screen. so when the bullet goes off the left side, it will be a few frames before it appears on the right side. That is where the bug comes into play. If the enemy shot makes it to the bottom of the screen when it is in that "no man's land" between the sides of the screen, it doesn't get cleared from memory. So, if it happens once, now there can only be 7 enemy shots at a time. If it happens twice, there can be only 6. If you wait long enough, 8 enemy shots will have made it to the bottom off screen. So the memory will never have any room for an additional enemy shot.

I had the same question as FUGP. To which function are you referring? If it's invoking the no-shoot bug, I run it down pretty succinctly in that short video I showed part of and linked to in a card. It walks you through just what FUGP describes.

Well, the bug is only in the arcade version, so when they released with the the NES, the no-shoot was certainly not there. Not being obtuse, but do you mean Galaga '88, or is there another Galaga I don't know about?

@@GenXGrownUp Oops, my mistake. Made the change in the OP. So, the original MyArcade Galaga was the NES port? I must have missed that info. Thanks.

Yes. See the pinned comment for the GSP review.

Never found one that did.

Haha! I remember hearing that, too. It's not possible in Galaga, but the widespread rumor contributed to the decision to introduce that possibility in Galaga '88!

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching and for your kindness! 😁

Exact same size screen. The Joystick Player is finally a big larger, though.

If it saved high scored, I would've put in the time!

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Ahhhh..once you get the enemies to stop firing, it is simple enough all the way to 999,990. I don't think I've ever gone past that, since I never had the patience to do this as player 2. But I know every time I have done this, reaching the score turnover was never in doubt. It maybe get a little harder, but nothing that all your built up extra lives can't overcome.

Oh, I didn't think to check that, but I bet it does.

I'd rate it about the same as the comparable Pocket Player. 😀

Pretty sure not, as it's the NES ROM.

@@GenXGrownUp Thanks, I wasn't sure

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Boy, I don't hear people talking enough about Phoenix. It was a Centuri game, and I dont' even know who holds the rights these days. I'd like to see it get some love.

phoenix ... when you get to the end level with the mothership - it is an epic level which galaxian and galaga does not have - it has the swopping dropping birds too ...@@GenXGrownUp

🤔 Poor Gordon Sumner.

Maybe 5-8 minutes?

@@GenXGrownUp, thanks!

No, unfortunately none of the new Galaga Pro units save high scores.

I am according to my sources at My Arcade.

I'll get to it shortly.

@@GenXGrownUp ok thx

Not according to My Arcade, but what do they know? 😉

@@GenXGrownUp We might disagree about how the hardware is emulated, but it’s a dead ringer for the stand-up machine. It’s not all that hard to do it with modern components. Still, great version. It’s exactly what it should be.

The Pro units do not. I mention it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJZ8mdh4ps3XZoE.html

How the two compare was a non-video. Aside from the visually obvious, they're presenting the exact same experience using the same internal components.