Same here..I am just anticipating and thinking how to make my note 20 ultra last longer as possible for minimum of 6 to 7 years, even with no quarterly security patches after 4 to 5 years of release, because Samsung is permanently ditching the SD card support from all it's future flagship devices,including the upcoming note 21 & future upcoming 'S' devices. So,as you said note 20 ultra will be last flagship device and also the last note to have all flagship features, and also all necessary accessories bundled provided with box itself.

there are people who have 50 chargers in the house. people who don't care about the pen (like me) and with a decent computer it takes 3 seconds to clear the memory (which I would do at most 1/ 2 times in 4 years) or insert photos and videos inside. memory cards can be lost. so I think that besides money which is obviously the main motivation, the reason is also that not everyone needs or loves these things. if you pre-ordered your phone, in addition to giving you the headphones and the tag, they also discounted the cover. I saw a big move there. phone that has a lot of potential, at a reduced price with many gifts / discounted items. then obviously those who have a note20 ultra do not feel the need for an upgrade. for those with older phones it's a great solution.

You are right on these things, and I am not saying that the S21 is a bad phone, in-fact I think the updates are rather impressive having used the S20 ultra myself for abit before going to the Note20. However I do believe the the S21 is making compromises of a sort that overall hurt it than help it. SD card slot is something that was not used a whole lot but for someone like me who used to travel alot is a life saver, especially if you lack access to a decent computer. The charger really is more the extreme parroting of apple than an actual complaint, tho it does hurt people who are maybe switching to android for the first time might feel hurt on. The S pen for sure is a niche use for most people and I applaud samsung for adding support of it to the S series, tho with it separate, it does show that the Note 20 just comes more prepared then it's successor.

Yea it's a deal breaker for me

I was also stuck between the Note 20 ultra and the S21 Ultra. I didn't want the exynos 990 chipset but wanted a SD card slot so after I convinced myself, I ordered a 512gb snapdragon Note 20 ultra. It's a great phone. Sure I would have liked to have 10x zoom and 120hz at full res but Samsung forced my hand. Also if something goes wrong with the phone I will have to send it back to the seller (etoren) in Singapore as the phone can't be fixed in the UK. Still happy with the choice I made

@@fooey1 great, at least they still provide charger adopter on note 20. I'm going to get note 20 soon

COMPLETELY agree!!! I thought I was the only one...not that Samsung really cares. ;-)

@Jayden Dai was easier to use to me. Finger automatically goes to that position. With the thumb you have to adjust how you hold/use the phone.

Fuck the note9. I have one, and that piece of shit decided to get the gray screen.

@@sgt.hollowpoint6968 sorry to hear that.

commenting from my note 9 wich i bought 2 years ago ,still running smoothly.

fo sho fool

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I have one 🤑

The Note has boxy design and the colour, otherwise the s21 ultra does look just as premium at least in black.

@@RennieAsh Black is Black...

Nice I love to see your work you on twitter or insta

@@bigmaxcc lynnlascaro.com and lynn_lascaro on instagram

exynos or snapdragon?

I am in the US@@Enki6089I have Snapdragon 865 Plus and 5g. I've been using TMobil since the Note4 and upgrade annually using their jump program

How do you download movies

Yeah, there aren't much differences. Only differences are the shitty processors, battery life, and camera quality.

Bruh. It's titled which to buy in 2021. Not about upgrading from note 20 or not.

Not much point in upgrading to a new phone just a few months after your current one was released months ago, anyways. It's best to upgrade every 3-4 years, IMO. More bang for your buck, that way.

@@3NDERS those are all actually pretty significant differences 😂. Also its not really common practice to get a new phone every few months, so it would be unrealistic to expect crazy improvements.

@@TokyoKazama I know, I was being sarcastic. It just pisses me off how people in the comment section that the Note is better

Big fats 💯💯💔

@@alicool2511 no fat

Same here.

@@YourExcellency FATTY

I got both phones rite now hard decision I like my note 20 ultra but I also like the s21 ultra but being stuck at 128gb with no options for sd sucks

Meee

@@jihyunlee07 let's go baby 🔥

Thanks for pointing that out. An Sd slot is most definitely a major necessity why would they do that? They already eliminated the headphone jack like leave shit alone

And better display colors and better chip😉 And both is so beautiful but I think s21ultra is the number

and not exynos 990...

@@ErnestMarvinEsteban and galaxy buds pro no charge but i don't care because i have . And now support s pen i have for the note 10 5g😉

Lucky you, atnt didnt offer free galaxy buds did get 800$ trade in value tho.

No earbuds in box

Really? I have the note 20 ultra and thinking to give it a change to s21 ultra...and since i saw this now i'm good...plus battery life difference is just 10% more for s21 ultra... ...just as what would barbara would say in sharltank... i'm keeping my note 20 ultra...and for that reason i'm out! Lol

As a Note 10+ owner, I think the Note 9 is still the best smartphone ever made. Still, I love my Note 10+ :)

I am using Samsung Galaxy Note 8👍❤

@@kingkishor8708 I have had the note 8 since its release and have loved it,but I'm definitely thinking about upgrading bc of its battery life and camera

@@GabrielGarcia-lw4tb ss bro👍

peasant

Exy or SD?

Exactly. I just don't understand why samsung do some of the things they do or get rid of.a damn shame.

Mst?

@@blacklyfe5543 yes . You can pay at more places with your phone at the payment machine with MST

@@wakandageorgia973 don't every samsung phone have mst and nfc

I like the camera design of S21U and the shape of Note 20U. Note 21U will be my precious if the release it.

How much screen on time are you getting at 120hz?

@@markojovanovic6928 I'm getting 6.5-7.5 hours. (Note20 Ultra; Unlocked; 865+ Canada)

Same

I ended up going with the note 20 ultra for the micro SD card

There is no Note 21. Curtains. According to notorious leakers.

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@@Raj-ml1zb we wait till August to see. Leaks are leaks.

Same; them dropping support for the micro SD card slot and reducing base storage is a real win for the note!

how do you feel about the phone so far?

@@cattaleyaaa.n01 great! been using it since september

@@cattaleyaaa.n01 love it no issues whatsoever 👍🏾

I recently bought the s21 ultra and from what I've seen there is no point besides 1440p at 120 hz. Besides that everything is almost identical even performance

God bless your family

Oh cmon man.... what kind of hog wash is this hahahahahhahaa a phone for being a good dad? Hahahahahahahahahaa this just sounds dumb and fake..... as if anything you said matters towards the quality of phone .. uneccesary back story like a bad B movie....

There won't be Note 21

@@93donzo yes there will. This may be the last though.

Ice universe tweeted out the end for the note series today, who knows if there will be a note 21 or not.

@@alejandrosilva9683 whatever the case I’ve said for a while Samsung really needs to consolidate their lineup. Have an S model and then have the “Ultra” be their top tier with an S Pen all with one release date. I’ve always felt like when buying a Samsung phone your device feels obsolete in 6 months. It seems every year the newest S Model edges out the old Note and the new Note does the same to the S model.

Just seen in Twitter that ice universe wrote '' galaxy note end ''

You think the nite ultra is worth buying right now in 2021 ? I might grab it tomorrow wanting some user reviews how about battery life??

@@joshuat5140 Do the battery saving trick and you will be good to go... Check it on youtube. It will allow you to have adaptive refresh at 120HZ with the battery saver option enabled. It makes a huge difference.

@@henrickrw i cant decide if i should get the note 20 ultra or the s21 ultra, sadly in my country we only have the exynos versions...

@@benjensen4450 Import the Snapdragon variant or get yourself an S21 Ultra. I prefer the Note tough.

@@henrickrw i think it would cost more for the snapdragon varient!

The nice thing about the S pen is you could click the pen to take pictures.

Pre-order?!

you pre-pre order??!

white boss status

I feel the same. But my sim slot for n10+ has been damaged and I need to upgrade. It's so hard to choose

There won't be n21

Why would they want to bash these weakness and removed features? It's all about Samsung marketing. Would Samsung give out review units to them if they do so?

Everyone is being nice because they're gifts from Samsung. Flossy Carter is going in once the unit he paid for comes in

@@antx8563 'being nice' keke. Leading consumer to the only good side and avoid mentioning or testing the important item like heating, SD cards and so on.

Being able to sign documents on the go withouth either having to print them out and sign then scan them then email them or having a bulky case and carring arround the pen is so handy though so in my usage I think ill have to go with stick with the Note series.

Hopefully so I can change my Note 10 ➕ Am sick of how good it is 😄❤

Seriously?

Yes, but will most likely be a note 20 fan edition like the s20fe

No we won't

Ooooh swapped to Galaxy A52s 5g!

Agreed 👌

Gestures

And with the Note, you can click the pen to take pictures.

And I can't decide on this. Ordered both to see what I like and return. I mean I'm coming from a Pixel 3 so anything is an upgrade lol

@@Rashimotosan which one did you end up keeping?

@@DiegoGonzalez-zi9lg the s21 ultra. Honestly I liked the note's stylus but found I wasn't really using it as much for all the features it entailed. The brightness was better on the s21 and it felt a bit zippier in speed. The 120 hz is nice, video quality nice. S21 was more comfy to hold with the rounded corners and the screen curves just enough that full screen videos are beautiful on it esp in high rez. I personally noticed a considerable difference in camera quality, though neither was as good as pixel in terms of color accuracy but s21 was sharper as the Note created some weird color variances and a lot of noise in photos. And despite getting the one with the lowest storage, even with the tons of photos I have, between Samsung gallery's cloud and Google Photos' cloud, I haven't even filled half the space on my s21. I will say I'm also not a very heavy app user outside of a few games and social media apps so ymmv. That being said I do miss the clean android experience, having first access to android features and its screen and camera color accuracy. As a poc, I find Samsung phones wash my skin tone out no matter how much I adjust settings or edit the images. I'm hoping pixel 6 is up to snuff and will probably go back and remain on Google unless something from Samsung blows my socks off. But this phone is great, these are minor issues to a majority of users. I am just a pixel stan but I don't have any major complaints aside from camera stuff.

Actually to make fingerprint scanner more smooth is to register your thumb thrice

But the ultra is 10 times better than the pixel 5, not bc Google is bad is just because they don't make a flagship like the iPhone 12 pro max or the S21 ultra.

@@santiagofigueredo1885 the only issue that I know of is maybe a lesser battery but it's also less expensive, and camera performance between the two is debatable.

@@aman888 not the screen, performance and the camera will not be comparable, I think the pixel 6 will be, but the zoom and power that the S21 ultra has is just amazing, I think Google just needs to put a pixel 6 of 750 $ and a ultra or pro model.

@@aman888 nah. Samsung's camera is now on whole new another level. Visit 'danny winget' channel. He showed camera test. It is literally on insane level!

@@md.iftekharhossainrifat2381 it's not double the price "good" though

@@xers8719 no it doesn't

@Andre Ferguson yeah it's cool and I don't mind it, but it does make it feel bigger and more cumbersome

My Note 8 always made my hand cramp holding it. Puts me off boxy phones. Prefer the curve on the s line.

S pen for s21 ultra does not support bt features

@@jbrei713 okay, so how do we charge the S Pen? Via USB or chi charge?

That doesn't really make since. The S21 would be more the computer here over the s20 ultra since it has better overall features

It will be true in the year past but not anymore...exactly why Samsung thinking about cutting the note line because your galaxy s21 ultra its just like a note without the pen

I pre ordered because the trade in on my note 10+ was $550. It will only go down from there so why not upgrade? S21 ultra 256gb for $699? Heck yes!

@@SweetLou0523 You definitely got a good value there

Go For Note 20 Ultra,without any hesitation.All accessories including charger & headphones included in the box,along with SD card support and S-Pen included with bluetooth support.Minor camera improvements in S21 is not a big dealer to consider,for an average consumer when you get all flagship features and free accessories included in note 20 ultra,with nearly same performance on both phones.

I'm currently using note 8 too. I would like to upgrade but I'm not sure if to pass on s21 (for battery life , if confirmed) or note 20 ultra for s pen... Have you considered s21 ultra?

@@Dj2elve I know everything about the new S21 series but to me it's a small upgrade from the note 20 Ultra. I don't like the fact; there is no SD card storage, accessories and also its £50 cheaper from the last years S20 ultra, which was retailed at £1199.00. When your cutting down the price of handsets, it should be a 2 to 3 hundred pounds less than last years price. Normally Samsung flagship smartphones are too over priced for what they are. The note 8 is my first note phone, and I enjoyed it, but I like the Note 20 Ultra due to the design, features and specs, inserted Spen, micro sd slot and accessories that come in the box. I'm waiting for the price to drop. At the moment, the note 20 Ultra worth's £1000 to me than £1,279.00 for the 512GB model, which is too over priced. At the end of the day it all comes down to what is your preference, whether your an Spen user or without.

How was the upgrade? I bet it's a huge difference. I'm trying to decide myself as I'm typing on my S10+ right now. I've been a Samsung fan for quite some time but never owned a Note series. I'm debating on the s21U or wait to see what the S22U is going to feature. From what I've read the camera in the S21U and S22U will be the same.

And you know they don’t use it how?

@@anthonyt425 this magical thing called market research. Less than 1% of consumers actually use expandable storage when it's available to them. It's only an extremely small demographic of people who actually say they use it, and even many of those don't ACTUALLY use it. They just want to "demand more" from OEMs but often ask for things they don't take advantage of.

This. Suddenly everyone is a professional photographer needing 1 tb of storage on their phone lol. I'm a dad with a 2 yo and I take a shit ton of photos and videos. Out of the 256 gb on my note 10+ I have 100gb free left. No biggie. I just pre ordered a 256 gigs ultra. Super hyped.

@@KrizTm21 yep the s21 ultra is better some of these note users just in denial

@@yeetiesandwheaties i have a note20 ultra and i never use a sd card. i use the slot for second sim for data.

If you feel like it you upgrade. Its would be a really huge upgrade. Does not matter what phone you take

If the reason you're unsure on upgrading is down to price, a more affordable and great value upgrade for you could be the S20 FE.

I had that pink line to on my s7 edge too☹️

My mom has a samsung s7 edge and we are changing that phone TODAY. We are sick of it. The phone's camera doesn't even work anymore. The s7 is tired chile.

Iphone 12 mini, Iphone 12, Sony 5 II, a few examples of better phones then samsung and not so big

case, pen, watch

Erik I have the Note 10+ I can get the Note 20 for $750 and then sell the 10+ to a friend for 450. or I can trade in my Note 10+ and get the S21 Ultra with galaxy buds live and wireless charger for 650. What would you do? I do like having a SD card slot?

@@tylongkicks8821 I traded in my s10+ with cracked screen for 500+150 discount with 200 accessory credit. Can't beat that price. I'd do it if I were you.

The 256GB version only costs 50$ more, not sure where you got the $150 from. Also they lowered the prices of all of the models by 200$

@@gavinderulo12 I'm referring to the 512gb version, before you can buy the cheaper 128gb version and just buy as $60 512gb SD card.

Me too. Currently using note 9. Coming to 3 years. Been loving note series forever. But now, which one is the best?

If you got robotic eye you will see the difference , otherwise not. Have the Note 20 Ultra , my girlfriend just received her s21U i can tell you overall i am more happy with the note 20U , and i always had the S series in my life. This was the first time i changed from s10 + to N20U as i am done with samsung's dodgy apple marketing which means less improvements , more price, take out sd card , take out jack , take out charger and all this only for 1400 , no thank you , next time what ? you get only the fron of the phone ? and have to buy the back seperately ? :D

@@shacoeuw9634 thank you i appreciate it

@@shacoeuw9634 but theres one bug think tho ... the exynos chip

@@reibelalla2266 i always used the exynos version , never had any issue with it , i was overall happy with the perfomance and never had overheating issues. In my opinion its like buying a car. If you are unlucky you can have one with faults plus on the web everyone says oh exynos its not good as the snapdragon. I've just watched a video the difference between my note 20 ultra and my gfs S21U perfomance is 4%, i dont think thats a huge thing , and as it is in my hand i cant tell any difference between the 2 phones .

@@shacoeuw9634 yes thats true

Snap

No beacuse Samsung has discontinued its Galaxy Note series that's why there's no software . The Galaxy S series has been struggling as well. Samsung launched new foldable phones recently

@@Ghostguitarist93 foldable phones are not to great need major improvement before would even consider and pricing is damn ridiculous!

@@dunnoyolo2238 I agree with you on this the s series was a massive pay off I can't see these foldable phone taking over Samsung series im not really a big fan of folding phones last fold phone I had was Motorola razr and I'm going back school times

IF there is a note21u i will also be trading in

exactly!!

Thx God!

Plus, no chargers ,and slow charging speed now.

@@ownurlove I still use my fast chargers w my s20ultra so I'm not complaining abt the speed but they rly should have kept super fast charging and SD cards. The exynos is powerful af I was impressed I get the snapdragon anyways which is even more impressive.