Okay first of all, proper respect to Beau for the timing of this excellent drop #applause# But this reminds me of a question I've been wondering about of the general culture of sex in Westeros, particular when it comes to brothels. Obviously we're still a wee bit of time away from the invention of condoms. And so, do you think the concept of "pulling out" is there and pervasive thru Westerosi culture? Idk, especially with how this was a WAY out of balance patriarchal society, a big part of me thinks pulling out is likely not a big thing, a common male attitude would be "alright she's just a whore anyway, I'm paying my well earned gold to get laid, it's going to be as great as I can possibly make it, including that I'm firing the rocket from inside". And yet, trying to follow that to its logical conclusion, you'd think a preggo whore with a bastard inside her is quite common, but... no, there's no way in hell so many women would so easily just put themselves on the shelf for several months of not being able to make any money.

@@kevinw712 Two words: _Moon Tea_ !

Ashley Tupper Wtf😂

I mean.....I don’t blame him....

On what planet was Ms Dormer "underappreciated" on this show?

How was she underappreciated?? She was well loved, pretty well developed, had plenty of screen time. The writers should have kept her around longer.

@@Kaycity44 Dormer asked to be released from her contract and killed off in Season 5 because she wanted to pursue other opportunities, but agreed to stick around until Season 6 for the story to play out like D&D planned, so we ultimately got more of her than even she initially wanted to give.

Well, on one hand she was almost perfect for the role and I'm glad she was cast and we got her brilliant acting. On the other hand, don't sign on if you aren't willing to let the writers give your character a full story arc.

I'm glad she stayed. But I feel in the books she'll have a more significant role. She already does. How would Cersei kill her with her whole family behind her, her father on the council and her father's army in the city. But Cersei is that stupid and reckless.

I agree 💯 I've quit smoking recently and that was much easier I just don't have the willpower to do this

im going strong for now, but when the trailer drops..and the whole world talking about it, .... go help me.. :D

@Dave Robb yea, exactly, too many spoilers last season.. some time after last season i stopped following all GOT related sites on FB, and every time I see something GOT related on youtube a select that im not interested, not gonna watch anything related to season 8 after its over.. :D not even nersoup previews....

Yep...haven’t watched anything on season 8.

Dodging like it’s the plague.

But THAT choice always seemed to crack me up. "Go sweep up"... yes, sweep that floor that never really actually seems to have much dirt on it anyway lol (and no, NOT *because* it's constantly being sweeped!! :p

I hear the same thing in my head while watching the scene. Beautiful.

Agreed. I actually don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility his motivation was simply to please the Gods. As he tells Olenna on the show "I imagine this is strange for you. Every person you meet has an ulterior motive and you prize yourself on sniffing it out but I'm telling you a simple truth". But I completely agree the High Sparrow was a more complex interesting villain tha Ramsay. The High Sparrow actually wins the game of thrones when you think about it. However brief he does end up as ruler of Westeros. Plus when you think about the Sparrows punishing people. These are for things that by their own law should be punished. He's only holding the powerful people accountable.

@Australiantatious I disagree. Religion is inherently grey. For "every giving away your shoes to someone who needs them more" there's a "mutilating Ser Loras just because of who he fancies". That's much more grey than simply wanting revenge for being mistreated.

It's a classic example of how victims who are starved of any sort of safety and affection will latch on to the closest source even if its toxic and dangerous.

@@IvoryValentine22 Indeed. I'm game for strong criticisms about plotting and character consistency issues w/ regards to Sansa and Littlefinger in Season 7, but I think what happened here in S5 largely makes sense for both the plot and the characters moving it along, even when it leads to some deeply unpleasant developments.

@@vincentdawn9689 It also just makes sense psychologically, the kind of abuse she suffers is well documented and its side effects are well understood. The way she exhibits her emotions even many of her decisions are consistent with how trauma survivors act in the real world, it's something George has done a really excellent job portraying.

i can understand why sansa went along with it. but why the hell did littlefinger do it? he doesnt know anything about ramsay? but sure take her, maybe kill her who cares.

@@TheEnecca He does it b/c his plan is to do almost exactly what he does in Season 6, but at the time he made this plan, he didn't foresee the crazy abuse or Sansa having to escape, or Jon Snow coming down off the Wall to pick up where Stannis left off. The plan was to let Stannis and the Boltons fuck each other up and then swoop in to pick off the leavings w/ Sansa already waiting for him in her ancestral home. Best plan ever? No, but I understand the logic even if the risk is pretty substantial. As far as him not knowing about Ramsay? Sometimes you get bad intelligence or intelligence is sparse. If 21st century intelligence communities aren't without fault, what are we to expect of ersatz medieval ones? Oh, and just to add to my comment about Sansa's choice: she has none. She's 14-15, being hunted for her life across a continent and he's the adult.

Or the proper use of "fewer"

Stannis Baratheon can't shave with a razor blade because the only thing tough enough to cut Stannis Baratheon's facial hair is Stannis Baratheon. 🤜💥🤛

I actually think we understand a lot of his motivation from his chat with Olenna. Olenna is offering him the usual trapping a man wants. Gold, fame and women but he rejects it: "I imagine this is strange for you. Everyone you meet has a hidden motive, and you pride yourself on seeking it out. But I’m telling you a simple truth. I serve the Gods" That's when Olenna gets the real truth from him. When she suggests to him half of the people of King Landings are sinners, but he's choosing to make an example of her grandchildren and threatens him, he replies with: "You are the few. We are the many. And when the many stop fearing the few…” She's smart enough to realise what he really wants. The complete destruction of the existing order. He doesn't deny Olenna's claim that half the city are sinners, he admits it.

Killing kings? Correcting improper grammar? But you might be right

I GOT into nerdsoup for their game of thrones content but I will stay for their humor and venerable storytelling.

Australiantatious been thinking about that the last few days lol

It's because Sansa/Alaine has become extremely desirable bride in the Vale (even though she his thought as a bastard), she is very beautiful and her body form foreshadows that she can bear many children (I guess she looks like a 13 yr old version of Christina Hendricks or something, or simply like Sophie Turner), plus she acts like a proper high born maiden, an she is super religious (she is always going to the sept). Everybody in thhe Vale is charmed by her. Also LF has currently the control of the Vale, he killed the crazy aunt, and he is slowly poisoning a very week Robert Arryn. So once the son dies (which is very soon), the Vale will go to one of John Arryn's nephews (one of his Sisters' sons or something). And that nephew has already demonstrated interest to betroth Sansa/Alaine. And I guess once they marry she will return to her natural color and reveal herself as a Stark, making Winterfell (and the whole North hers). Bran and the baby brother are believed dead and Jon is out of picture on the wall. Plus she's the niece of the Riverland's Lord (I know the Freys are currently in "control", but the other riverland lords are still loyal to the Tullys and the Starks, plus the Blackfish is still alive)

@Metsarebuff 22 it's rare when cunts get what's coming to them. It's why I like it.

Rileycord 12 7 more episodes until bad pussy!

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yeah i loved her chapters. its so obvious how crazy she is and thats makes her thoughts so much more entertaining.

Plus the fact she kinds of blames Tyrion for everything bad that happens. In Dance when Kevan tells her Myrcella has been attacked by Gerold Dayne, she instantly assumes Tyrion is behind it with absolutely no evidence. Even Kevan criticizes her for seeing Tyrion in every shadow.

I noticed this too. The Sparrows have done more to break the wheel than anyone else we've seen. Is it even established in Westerosi history that royals that can be put on trial? I mean all legal authority derives from the king. That is before the High Sparrow came along and treated the Royal family the same way any common criminal would be treated.

Yeah I see what you mean but I don't think it would have worked with Ramsay, he is a true sociopath and sadist, he is not interested in sex, he likes dominating people with sex. The guy is a true demon, it is hard to have the upper hand. In the books, it seems that only Northerners know of Ramsey's nature, and the knowledge was not shared with the Stark daughters

I think the same thing about Melissandre. Even when she's burning people alive, she's not doing it because she gets a kick out of it. They genuinely believe they're doing a good thing.

who is Cersea m8? :D

@@peterbenc1148 One of the main characters in the show. Do you not watch? BTW, who is m8?