The Real Reason Game of Thrones Failed Sansa Stark's Storyline

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Welcome to the first video in our series where we analyse pivotal decisions made in Game of Thrones, starting with the controversial character arc of Sansa Stark. 🌟
In this video, we delve deep into the evolution of Sansa Stark, examining why the showrunners, D.B. Weiss and David Benioff, made certain choices and how these decisions impacted her storyline. Despite the backlash, it's crucial to understand the reasoning behind their moves rather than simply labelling them as “bad writers.”
We’ll explore Sansa’s journey from being a pawn in the hands of the Lannisters and Tyrells to her transformation into a player in the deadly Game of Thrones. 🏰✨
Chapters:
00:00 - 0:56 intro
00:57 - 02:34 Sansa The Pawn
02:35 - 04:28 Jeoffery And The Hound
04:29 - 06:42 Sansa And Cersei
06:43 - 09:37 How Will Sansa's Arc End?
09:38 - 13:12 Why Was Sansa Replaced With Jeyne Poole?
13:13 - 14:17 Conclusion And Outro
Through this analysis, we’ll discuss why D&D struggled to write beyond Season 4 and how the show's constraints led to significant deviations from the books. 📚
We’ll also address common criticisms and explore potential endings for Sansa in The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring. Could her story have played out differently if the show had more material to adapt? 🤔
Join the discussion! Leave your thoughts in the comments: How do you think Sansa’s arc should have ended? Who is responsible for her controversial storyline - George R.R. Martin or the showrunners?
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@kit888 Күн бұрын

My impression in the book was that Sansa was learning to be a good queen, not as a ruler but as a supporter of a king. She was learning to get along with people, run a household, lead other women (as in the siege situation) but apolitically.

@FilmCritiqueHub Күн бұрын

Interesting take, I didn’t really consider that. I think in the books she will become a more single ruler as she’ll likely be key in using the vales resources to help either retake WF for herself or help defeat the WW. But after she does that, I agree with your take that she will likely become a good supporter of a king. I think it’s unlikely she’ll be a single ruler for the north (lady of WF) and it’s impossible that she will be queen in the north. That’s almost certainly something D&D made up.

@tsuritsa3105 6 күн бұрын

You are the FIRST commenter on KZfaq I have seen who pointed out that Sansa was taking Jeyne Poole's place from the books, and that DnD - who I don't love, aren't great and made major mistakes - were in a bind where Sansa was concerned for plot, time and budget reasons. Thank you.

@FilmCritiqueHub 6 күн бұрын

Yep, you summed it up perfectly. I don’t like defending DnD but you HAVE to look at some of their constraints to give a balanced argument. Thank you for your comment!🙏

@user-ym3co7hg5c 7 күн бұрын

It was ridiculous that Little Finger would turn Sansa over to the Boltons. She was much to important to him. I almost through book at the T.V.

@FilmCritiqueHub 6 күн бұрын

Yeah especially since I read the book before this happened. Not only does it make no sense for LF as a character but also narratively. It was really frustrating because towards the end of season 4 it looked like they were going to set up the jeyne Poole plot and build up Sansa’s arc in the vale, but they must’ve changed their minds.

@V1rtuaMa3s 10 күн бұрын

Great commentary! It's nice to hear something other than hyperbolic hatred for D&D. I'd love to watch more of these light comparison videos

@OmgItsTania 7 күн бұрын

Great vid! New sub, looking forward to seeing more content.

@nanakmccann 10 күн бұрын

The fact that the show ended four years ago and there still is not another book, makes it hard for me to blame the show runners. They were hired to adapt book into TV. It’s Martin’s story. It’s his fault he can’t finish it.

@FilmCritiqueHub 10 күн бұрын

Yep, GRRM needs to take a large portion of the blame. But the show runners didn’t do any favours with some of the decisions they made.

@nanakmccann 9 күн бұрын

@@FilmCritiqueHub definitely agree. From what I read it sounds like they wanted to be done with the show and rushed through the last two seasons. Pretty sad, early seasons were so great.

@katierasburn9571 7 күн бұрын

honestly? i liked where sansa ended in the show, it felt poetic honestly that the one stark so eager to leave and not be a stark anymore was the one that remembered most what is was to be a stark and to fight for the north. The character who started with no power ending up being the one with it. I think if they'd had more time (and been better writers) they could have really developed this, had her work it out herself, scheme in her "i'm so innocent i don't know what you could possibly be doing" kind of way and gain her throne as queen of the north, finishing what her family started. I personally don't believe she would reject being a Stark

@FilmCritiqueHub 7 күн бұрын

I 100% agree with you completely. I don’t mind her being queen in the north, my main problem was how she achieved it. In a perfect world they would have fleshed out her character in the Eyrie before bringing her north(if that’s where her story does end), but instead they decided to send her north to become a victim again. Her outsmarting LF was fine, but the way she did it was again disappointing. Her reclaiming her stork identity is something I thought would happen, however I feel like it is in fact Arya who will lead the north. I might explain it in depth in another video but essentially Arya is the one who’s whole story arc is her reclaiming her identity. She changes identity multiple times; she doesn’t know who she is. While also being one of GRRM central 5 characters, she also is the only one who can relate to the common folk, something Sansa doesn’t really deal with. I think it’ll be Arya who will reclaim her stark identity. Saying all that, Arya sailing west and Sansa being queen in the north is something I really liked in the show, so no problems there.

@traviscue2099 10 күн бұрын

Agreed, this is more GRRM's fault. Like seasons 1-4 clearly show that D&D have high talent, they're just not good writers.. But amazing adaptors. The problems come from cutting out minor stuff at the start (that grow into bigger plots) and these actors becoming big names. Cutting out Bran for an entire season is what they should of done with Sansa and Jamie (Give us a sneak peak of him in the riverlands). If they had kept mance alive and had Jayne Pool in the background I think it would of worked.. But yeah its far more complicated than just "Dnd bad".

@FilmCritiqueHub 9 күн бұрын

I would’ve loved to see your version of play out, the only problem is Sansa and Jamie were beginning to become big names at that point. I don’t know if they would be capable of removing them for a season. Some casual fans also wouldn’t approve of it since they’re both fan favourites. It’s my personal opinion that AFFC and ADWD is extremely difficult to adapt on screen. Trying to adapt the show after S4 with the material given must’ve been a nightmare and clearly D&D are out of their depth here.

@traviscue2099 9 күн бұрын

@@FilmCritiqueHub Oh I'd agree with that completely. After season 4 new contracts were being written up as well, and these unknown actors were now big names who the fans would of demanded to see. Oh the amount of characters added after the show had begin explains exactly why they left so many out.. Since at the time they didn't see them as big players. I think in the future we're going to see a fully animated version of this series (If the books ever come out) before we get another live action version.. I get the feeling the universe is going to grow a lot via HBO over the next few years.

@mresponsible 10 күн бұрын

Great vid!

@FilmCritiqueHub 10 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@worldadventuretravel 2 күн бұрын

It's weird timing putting this out years after GOT wrapped. But I watched it all the way through, as I never thought much about Sansa's character at the time other than the lingering confusion over why she vouched for Littlefinger when she was at the Vale. D & D ruined GOT for me permanently. I'll never re-watch the show, and I doubt I'll ever read the books knowing there are some things in there like your description of Jane Pool that I don't even want filling my head. Besides, GRRM is never going to finish the book series so why invest thousands of hours into reading them anyway when we will never get an ending? Such an epic moment in TV, all shot to hell by horrible show creators that fell victim to their own hubris. I like watching these fan videos occasionally though for the nostalgic value of when the show was actually good. Martin really did create an amazing world of stories and characters. It's too bad it was so horribly represented in the end and the author can't stop going off on side-projects so we'll never see how the whole thing concludes.

@FilmCritiqueHub Күн бұрын

I can’t recommend you read the books, but I will tell you that after the first book it diverges so much. Almost every character is fundamentally different. Each character is definitely more grey and the story is so much more complex. It’s a great read but incredibly frustrating when you realise there’s no more books and you’re not even close to getting an ending 😭 What I will say is that D&D where in a very bad situation after season 4 finished. They had to make important cuts and had no idea how GRRM is going to get to the endings he told them. They wanted to adapt the books but GRRM has grown a story too complex and too spread out. I honestly don’t know how anyone can fit the content needed for a satisfying ending in 2 more books. It’s practically impossible. I’ve heard rumours that GRRM actually finished the next book in 2017 but it was so bad he scrapped it and restarted. Idk if that’s true though🤷‍♂️.