Game of Thrones: Why the Death of Littlefinger was a Failure
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Күн бұрынThe Death of Littlefinger in the Game of Thrones Season 7 finale was a failure, here's why. Thanks for watching. Please like, share and subscribe
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00:00 - Intro
04:36 - 1. The Set-up
06:02 - 2. Season 7 build-up
07:58 - 3. The Trial of Petyr Baelish
12:03 - 4. What Littlefinger should have done
13:36 - 5. What Littlefinger should have said
18:47 - 6. Oh yeah, one other thing Littlefinger could have done
20:32 - 7. The Aftermath
22:30 - 8. Aiden Gillen deserved better
24:20 - 9. The Implications of the Scene
26:18 - 10. What the Writer's should have done
29:08 - 11. That's it (Conclusion & Reaction Video Parody)
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clip 5 (littlefinger & bran): • Video
clip 6 (littlefinger kills lysa): • Video
clip 7 (littlefinger's death): • Video
clip 8 (dany kills the tarlys): • Video
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clip 11 (euron meets cersei): • Video
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clip 13 (dany arrives at dragonstone): • Video
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clip 16 (writers on sundance): • GAME OF THRONES | Re-S...
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clip 18 (iDubbbz crippling depression): • iDubbbz - I Have Cripp...
clip 19 (stannis dies): • Video
clip 20 (roose dies): • Video
clip 21 (breen movie death scene): • Fateful Findings Best ...
clip 22 (office scene): • The Office - Michael S...
clip 23 (bunty laughing): • Video
clip 24 (littlefinger & sansa): • Video
clip 25 (sansa meets ramsay): • Game of Thrones 5x3 - ...
clip 26 (joffrey dies): • Video
clip 27 (littlefinger & sansa in the vale): • Video
clip 28 (vale army): • Game Of Thrones - S06E...
clip 29 (littlefinger spies on arya): • Video
clip 30 (writers idaho): • Dialogue: Creating 'Ga...
clip 31 (bryan alvarez swerve audio): • Bryan & Vinny RANTS On...
clip 32 (catelyn gets lysa letter): • Eddard & Catelyn Stark...
clip 33 (ned dies): • Game Of Thrones-Eddard...
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Petyr Baelish, nicknamed Littlefinger, is a fictional character created by American author George R. R. Martin. He is a prominent non-point of view character in Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series, and a main character in HBO's adaptation of the series, Game of Thrones, where he was portrayed by Aidan Gillen. In A Storm of Swords, it is revealed that several major plot points have hinged on Baelish's intrigues, including the framing of Tyrion Lannister for the attempt on Bran Stark's life, the downfall of Lord Eddard Stark, the deaths of Lord Jon Arryn and King Joffrey Baratheon, and the War of the Five Kings.
@moneymedia90 4 жыл бұрын
I figured since this video still comprises most of my views I'd let everyone watching know I have recently released Part 1 of my critique of Game of Thrones season 8. It's very long. You can watch it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsiYbNir1N3Df6s.html
@ace93712 4 жыл бұрын
You forget that Dany burned the Tarlys as a last resort. She offered them mercy and they chose not to. They slaughtered the entire high garden army without mercy. And they betrayed Olenna for power in the exact same way as the Boltons betrayed Robb. The Tarlys deserved it
@KaelWrit 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your content and cant wait for the next one. But can you please chill out with the “autistic screeching” & r-word comments? I dont think it’s fair to them to equate them to D&D, autistic and mentally disabled people are certainly smarter than D&D. Seems a bit mean. Also your Littlefinger and Jon voices are dead on.
@KartovOndulevitch 4 жыл бұрын
great impression !
@BlueSpiceSpace 4 жыл бұрын
Oh shit maybe DnD commissioned Vince russo! 7:30
@silvermoon608 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, someone thinks the same as me, this was so out of character for littlefinger, from the beginning when he admitted to kill Lysa, and it only got worse from there. The "evidence" is so circumstantial, and so easily disputed, that smart littlefinger would just turn everything around.(not saying he wouldn't died, Sansa would have killed him anyway). Trying to run to the Vale was the same as admitting everything, it's ridiculous. It didn't make justice to the character (which is beautifully written!), and the amazing portrait that this talented actor gives us. It is just sad that it went this way, and don't get me wrong, to some it may be satisfying to see littlefinger get what's coming to him, but the scene is just weak and full of holes.
@welcome2insanity 5 жыл бұрын
'Season 7 was the biggest joke' Season 8: Hold my beer
@Ruth-of1ji 5 жыл бұрын
i had hope after episode 2 and then episode 3 happened and completely destroyed that hope
@lizbitsmith9706 5 жыл бұрын
Ruth McQueeney Hope is a ladder... and d&d will build it so high that when they push you off you’ll leave a crater in the earth
@welcome2insanity 5 жыл бұрын
Lizbit Smith the writing went downhill ever since they introduced the dorne story line
@Ruth-of1ji 5 жыл бұрын
@@welcome2insanity Exactly, when they started going off book it became apparent where the good writing came from (grrm)
@eagann92 5 жыл бұрын
Hold my *arya
@rolltidetrey98 5 жыл бұрын
The writing is dark, and full of errors.
@turtleanton6539 5 жыл бұрын
8:3 is too
@lalalovengun 5 жыл бұрын
Trey White brilliant!!!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🏆
@KneelB4Bacon 5 жыл бұрын
"Every time D&D make a writing decision, the gods flip a coin."
@timothytzovolos153 4 жыл бұрын
But Star Wars makes them go away
@Codiggity369 4 жыл бұрын
somebody says this on every GOT review video. Can anyone be original anymore?
@rajasimanta 5 жыл бұрын
When characters get too smart for cliche writers to write
@lalalovengun 5 жыл бұрын
Simanta Dutta THIS!!!!
@skywalker6648 5 жыл бұрын
It is irritating when the writers suddenly make a formerly clever character so dumb and out of character just to get rid of them. The fact that Lord Baelish stuck around Winterfell after seeing all Starks in one place with both Arya and Bran acting creepy along with Jon's violent threat to him in the crypts but didn't make him leave or draw up another plan was not very convincing.
@Mom-yg1rt 5 жыл бұрын
Sky Walker he’s suddenly madly in love with Sansa and just stupid, the most clever thing he did was hide a fake note
@tzaneee 5 жыл бұрын
a major player ? you mean THE major player ....he started the war of the 5 kings ,he started it all
@patricioansaldi8021 5 жыл бұрын
seriously! to me, the show was really revolving around what varys, little finger, and tyrrion were doing behind the scenes with all their 5D chess and psychological warfare. which makes sense cause that's essentially what we uncover throughout the seasons up until this point. there was so much ripe and rich content to reap there...but I guess we can't have nice things cause Sansa, Arya, Dany, and Snow are the "cool kids".
@mcleb84 5 жыл бұрын
Which is why he will win the game if the writers choose to make him relevant. Order out of Chaos. It is the life we live in real life. Those that want to control us and run things create Chaos (the planned mass shootings, terrorist attacks, propaganda to get us to believe we need to hate each other and fight each other etc. Then they come in with a solution, as a hero to the problems they created. By abolishing an old system and forcing a new one. Taking your rights away forever. But they will win this way by turning everyone against each other, all while watching from the outside and never being known to be the creator of all the Chaos. Just like in the show and just like in real life. It is a game to the mastermind(s). Winning is the point of the game.
@patricioansaldi8021 5 жыл бұрын
@@mcleb84 right on
@squizill 5 жыл бұрын
10/10 confirmed 😂🤣😂
@Mastikator 5 жыл бұрын
@@patricioansaldi8021 Remember when Tyrion was doing 5D chess instead of being a dumbass :/
@igrgic1 4 жыл бұрын
GRRM said that Littlefinger was the most changed character from books to the show. In the books EVERYONE trusts him.
@IsaixLD7 3 жыл бұрын
In the books Tyrion is like the only one who doesn't trust Littlefinger because of the whole dagger situation. I guess because Tyrion is a POV character and Littlefinger's reputation in the books is kinda vague from what I remember, D&D changed his character to: nobody trusts Littlefinger, not just Tyrion. Not that it's a bad thing, I love show Littlefinger too....well before season 7 of course
@marymclaughlin9009 3 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about him in the show is that people know he can't be trusted but he's too useful to them & they end up relying on him in spite of themselves. And you have to say that on the whole it worked out well for Olenna re Joffrey (& by extension everyone else, Sansa not the least)
@winterman8248 2 жыл бұрын
"I wanted a faithful adaptation to the books" - G Martin to D&D well.........
@JFCotman 2 жыл бұрын
Really? I can’t imagine that. Why trust him?
@lucasstrunc7669 2 жыл бұрын
@@JFCotman I assume because he plays the game so well, makes friends with everyone and always chooses the winning side
@briantdt 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly think his character was too smart for these 2 idiots to write him properly. So they got rid of him because they just didn't know what to do with him. I really like the fake death theory, but man...with all the bad badddd writing in this season, I just don't see it.
@ladyish0968 6 жыл бұрын
bad wirtring in this season says people who have never written anything good in their entire life pretending that they know.
@briantdt 6 жыл бұрын
Don't be silly. You don't have to be a writer to recognize bad writing.
@ShockballGaming 6 жыл бұрын
LadyiSh09 it really isn't bad writing it was lack of Time which hindered polt development
@Weaseldog2001 6 жыл бұрын
Is that saying that you can't tell if food tastes good or bad, unless you're a chef?
@Weaseldog2001 6 жыл бұрын
It's bad writing. Rushing the plot is not a good excuse.
@spdrcr74 5 жыл бұрын
I think Little Finger would have left Winterfell as soon as Bran quoted what he said in Season 1. The way his death went down complete BS.
@Stei_n 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, this is probably too smart for D and D, maybe that lady he spoke to was a faceless man since she said "your time is up" then littlefinger gives her what is definitely a small coin that could be an iron coin of Bravoos since he did mention he had a great grandfather in Bravoos. Maybe littlefinger hired a faceless man to fake his death since aiden gillen did say In an interview about his death "your time is up".
@Jack-kx5rf 4 жыл бұрын
He should have stabbed him with the dagger and shouted for help.
@thatgirlinautumn5995 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, every single character in this series had to drink a lot of stupid juice to make any of this stuff happen. Ugh
@AnkitSingh-cd7tw 4 жыл бұрын
He said it in S3
@-Zikade- 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. He would have tried to kill Bran right there or immediately left Winterfell (or both). He'd be smart enough to realize that Bran is a huge threat to him. LF, like many others, took a bunch of stupid pills in these last seasons cuz Dumb and Dumber can't actually write smart characters.
@flotnar2512 5 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that the episode and his death were so badly written that many fans were sure he would come back and made the faceless man theory. Because come on! The writers would not kill off a major brilliant character in such a dumb tasteless way... Right?
@Dictator1999 5 жыл бұрын
If Baelish killed bran as soon as he revealed his knowledge that would have been epic.
@ctruth6185 5 жыл бұрын
Fool didn't know who Bran was or what the 3--Eyed Raven was so he was out of his element. Little finger killing Bran would have been major plot armor. Bran could warg into the killer and make the killers stab themselves. Bran hardly eats and hardly sleeps. I've no problem with, LF dying he's not going to beat the 3-Eyed, warging Raven. Sorry it ain't happening. He could've asked for a trial by combat but Arya would kill them anyway.
@rendymonyab 5 жыл бұрын
Baelish could TRY to kill Bran.... and then Bran wargs into Baelish.... and slowly walks him back out of the room. After which he wakes up from a daze... and mutters, I have to get out of here. And flees back to the vale.
@azzypoo 5 жыл бұрын
yeah him killing bran would’ve been cool for like five seconds before realizing how bad that actually is lol
@sathariel3231 4 жыл бұрын
Bran was useless for season 8 anyways might as well kill him
@skywalker6648 4 жыл бұрын
Considering Bran apparently know what is going to happen before it happens, he would have just had Little Finger killed before he could do that. Just like he did on the show. LF mistake was that he thought he was so clever and smarter than the Starks (and everyone else) so he didn't take any of the warning signs seriously.
@stuartm2476 5 жыл бұрын
As much as I hated Littlefinger (a sign of a well-written character IMO) I was more than half expecting him to be the winner of the game of thrones.
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Johnson You coul'd have chosen other words to describe him as a fool, or despitable person, cruel and without honor, but he's definitly no idiot... Did you really understand his character?... Or maybe you just blurt out the first thing who comes to your mind. It's fine it's your opinion, but doesn't seem like you want to know. I think it's ignorant not to admit Littlefingers brilliance. His way worked out for him so far and got him further up the ranks at least until the writers decided he was stupid...
@Akkatlah 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryunalunaris14 LF was an idiot who didn't know when to quit
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@@Akkatlah Thats right, and then why did he quit his reasoning in season 7? He left his own path of purpose. He quit the game of thrones by himself. All of this buildup for his plots and conspiracies will lead to THIS? That’s pathetic, underestimating his ability to adapt to almost every situation he gets into, or which he brings himself into on purpose, to crawl even deeper under people’s skin. He would do anything for his final goal to get everything he can grasp in the realm and beyond… His talent, setting mind traps into everyone, is on pair with his silver tongue and his analytic brilliance, which leads him in and out of every possible scenario there is... That’s his true and major power and now should be outmatched by Sansa?! I mean it makes sense because she is technically his apprentice to some degree. She finally learned her lesson I guess… And she never trusted him, which was also been taught to her by Littlefinger. "Never trust anyone, not even me." -he said to her in Kingslanding. But in my opinion that’s not Peter Baelish’s whole potential and you understand why, when you watch this video and what he could’ve done instead of falling for traps below his own caliber. Also falling to his knees, begging, instead of saving his life with his witty mind... Srsly?!... Do you really think, the man who thought about every possible outcome in his plotting wouldn’t have seen this coming? Sansa and Aria simply plotted to murder him, without getting judged by anyone, because everyone hates him anyways... which is dramatic but too boring to be good entertainment. ;) Thats like if you let jon snow just die of old age because he was too lazy to fight and the nightking just slipped into an active volcano and died without an epic battle... happy end yaaaaay.... :D Just to finish the storyline faster and without loose threads...
@claychestnut7967 5 жыл бұрын
He's one of the best players lmao but they tried to make him retarded
@dragosmic4903 5 жыл бұрын
i LOVED him
@imthebestthingsinceslicedr5400 5 жыл бұрын
Little Finger talking to the Night King. Little Finger:so how did we lose against these morons? Night King: Over powered plot armor?
@amirysyafy4801 5 жыл бұрын
Lolz
@Dennell_Mount_and_Blade 5 жыл бұрын
They used hacks! Cheaters, ban them admin!
@Indigo199517 5 жыл бұрын
Jokes on you, the Night King doesn't speak xD
@jasminecrawford42 5 жыл бұрын
@@Indigo199517 In hell, I'm sure everyone can talk 😂.
@shelstepaug 5 жыл бұрын
General_Buttcrack _Naked 😂😂😂😂
@brockjazz8838 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary! He should have demanded a trial, with King Jon there, and argued why Sansa was completing a trial without evidence. He should have argued how Sansa owes him her life 3 times. He should have given a Shakespearean speech. I didn’t mind his death, psychopath that he was, but I wanted him to argue, give a speech, and fight for his freedom just as you pointed out!
@carmenhodges7015 4 жыл бұрын
Keaton Jazz : They gave this guy 7 seasons, and he goes out like this???? Dude!!!!
@Jack-kx5rf 4 жыл бұрын
If Jon turned up midway through the trail he would have given them shit for trying to murder a man under guest right.
@stevennorris7181 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-kx5rf especially when it was his army of the vale that won them the battle of the bastards.
@thorstenwinter6075 Жыл бұрын
*Er hatte die Starks zwar gerettet, aber man darf nie vergessen, was er der ganzen Stark - Familie angetan hat. Er hat Sansas dazu gebracht ihren Mann zu tötet und somit brauchte Robert eine neue Hand, obwohl er wusste, dass in seinem Haus nur Intrigen gesponnen wurde. Zusätzlich hetzte er die Tante noch gegen Sansas Mutter auf und brachte Sansas Vater (die Hand des Königs) zu fall, was zu Tote führte. Und so zieht es sich durch die ganzen Staffeln.*
@Blixoen 6 жыл бұрын
"(...) And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.... And that cripple!"
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 6 жыл бұрын
Olav Blixøen-Olsen I read that I littlefinger's voice lol
@apratimkundu2308 6 жыл бұрын
This feels familiar
@blueshit199 5 жыл бұрын
tfw this is exactly what I thought after watching the scene
@TheFiresloth 5 жыл бұрын
"And that invisible dog !"
@skytstrax 5 жыл бұрын
Olav Blixøen-Olsen That may actually be the best comment on youtube
@BassFlapper 5 жыл бұрын
That's honestly a really good LittleFinger impression.
@backpain8688 5 жыл бұрын
it's perfect *wipes tears *
@QuellyQ 5 жыл бұрын
Funny as shit LMAO
@yungslvrback9944 5 жыл бұрын
Naw not really
@QuellyQ 5 жыл бұрын
@@yungslvrback9944 hater
@tobiasengel8385 5 жыл бұрын
Dude that Littlefinger impression was really a 11/10! You really captivated his vocab and vocal nuances
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 2 жыл бұрын
vocab? when's little finger said 'half-assed'? it is a great impression though
@ninasanchez6411 2 жыл бұрын
@@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 thats the humor part you unf missed :)
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 2 жыл бұрын
@@ninasanchez6411 the humour was in the bad impression, not in the bad impression AND using expressions littlefinger wouldnt. because that'd be putting a hat on a hat.
@ninasanchez6411 2 жыл бұрын
@@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 Who says the impression was bad?
@steelydan449 5 жыл бұрын
If Littlefinger truly is dead, it’s the best proof of season 7’s horrible writing.
@sleepingrodent7516 5 жыл бұрын
I won t believe he is dead until the show is over. He is a faceless man. He is alive
@steelydan449 5 жыл бұрын
Sleeping Rodent it would be a cool twist but I don’t see how they could shoehorn it in to this train wreck season 8.
@YTFlove4ever 3 жыл бұрын
@@sleepingrodent7516 lol. Now looking back, that was a big expectation from such a shit season 8 which couldn't even keep up little expectations
@balmorrablue3130 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleepingrodent7516 this aged so terribly ):
@jamesriver3745 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best written characters was mutilated.
@yutubeog 5 жыл бұрын
Little finger was the embodiment of this show. Making him an idiot and then killing him off showed that the writers care more about a simple "Good vs evil" plot than a complex political one. Bleh.
@lubystkaolamonola529 5 жыл бұрын
This entire show has deteriorated. It became neo-feminists - zombie battle.
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@@dffndjdjd That’s one way of seeing this. But there should've been more milestones leading to his downfall. They rushed his plotline to prevent costs, because of the focus on heroism in the last season and also his character was too much too handle for the film writers obviously. His ambitions were too big and not fully unfold up to this point in the story. He could have grown even bigger in terms of power, there where endless possibilities for his talents to shine but they decided to shorten his character instead. Why was it to late for him to survive then? He should've acted as he knew there were powers around bran he couldn't control. ala "NOPE I'm out!" He did realize that, you could see it in his face, that he feared brans power to see fully through him. Really he seemed like he panicked way too much over this, up to a point where he wouldn't think carefully and rational anymore. Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try it again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb. They refuse. They cling to the realm or the gods or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. You see, he is the only one who sees through all of it. He sees through all illusions, with a logic and analytic approach and that’s why he is capable of having an incredible potential. He breaks everything down into simple concepts, he disposes his morals and emotions as his weaknesses, which is also why he is mostly unmatched and even Varys, who seems equal in terms of power, knows, he can’t control his unpredictable moves. Fantastic chess play, but in S7 he suddenly lost all his pieces and moved alone, one by one square to his death. Seems fishy to me, that’s not the Littlefinger we know and l... listen to! ;p
@GAndreC 5 жыл бұрын
It actually seemed more like a reminder that in those days a non-noble could play for power but was doomed from the start since they came out of a union not fit to rule unless they could themselves swing the sword that placed them there. He was doomed the moment he neglected the way his own ancestors came up and reaching too far. Like being born in England and wanting to become king some day.
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@@GAndreC some sort of reminder, like they based a big part of the GOT-Universe of the medieval age. But it doesn't seem like all the common rules apply in the shows setting. As we know, everything is possible in GOT. Like we saw the deaths of major characters in the show. You never know and thats why it's interesting to watch how kings fall and chaos opens one or another way up the ladder. It's all about how well you play the game of thrones and he did a really good job, being the unexpected major player. He seemed weak, never on the offensive, always underestimated and he used all of this well to his advantage. It worked well until he got wrapped up in S7.
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@@dffndjdjd He had a really good chance, if politics would have been a bigger focus on the show. Also "Forshadowing" is an interesting fellow... He tries to tell us about the future and only assumptions can be made out of the little hints between the lines. Littlefinger had a big weakness and thats probably why he got killed. He did hold a grudge against catlyn stark, because he was not chosen by her in the past. Instead of getting rid of this weakness, he later had conceiled it with his unconditioned love for her, built into his plots regarding the starks. He wasn't fully aware of his fatal decision and how it would affect and twist his approach on certain cases. He was way too attached to sansa in the end. He mostly saw an ally in Sansa, who, when he played his cards right, would help him, almost be like him. Even with this manipulative, twisted, fake love relationship which he had in mind for them, he still was too blind to see through her and aryas plan. This could have led him astray and he became overconfident. He didn't follow the safest route anymore and died. And even if he had to die at some point, this wasn't the right way, not enough credit for the Mastermind Creep. :p
@PsychoticSpartan 5 жыл бұрын
People only liked his death because they hated him and loved all the starks in the room.
@agoten9978 5 жыл бұрын
SpartaN eh... all the Stark’s I like are dead or have been turned into dumbasses
@nikkidolce7093 5 жыл бұрын
I never liked the Starks
@savyparchman7445 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and?
@jackielana9993 5 жыл бұрын
Savy Parchman right? Like there needs to be a better reason to like/dislike a character lol
@indowithbadenglish5677 5 жыл бұрын
Even a prostitute like ros did not like him. What are you? Lord robin arryn that fancy him so bad?
@moneymedia90 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of people told me I was stupid for making this video. "Littlefinger isn't dead." "muh faceless man theory." Where are you now?
@nathanielleguizamo409 5 жыл бұрын
I'm new here, and if you had to deal with people thinking that Littlefinger would somehow return, I apologize, cause that's legit pants-on-head retarded
@bunqan-hu3785 5 жыл бұрын
I blame the fans who jumped on the bandwagon they only watched the show to join in with the hype and they encouraged this rush ending cause they didn’t care about all the slow build up fans have experienced
@juzujuzu4555 5 жыл бұрын
I'm here! Though I never called you stupid, or disliked your videos. I hoped that GRRM told that Littlefinger is the Lightbringer and wins in the end by creating chaos, and this death would have been D&D capitalizing by "killing" Littlefinger and in a sense get away from writing this character up until the last episode or so. Having watched all the Petyr Baelish theory videos, there were so much things that made sense, and from so many different perspectives. I hated season 7 but I thought/hoped that it was rushed and they would make much better final season, because it's going to be their legacy and because GRRM would have helped more in the final season. In my defense, I didn't know D&D or that HBO would have given them more episodes/seasons. I only started watching GOT in 2017 because of the hype. I have not watched TV/movies (in the last decade) other than Breaking Bad and Twin Peaks the Return, which I think is the best thing on TV ever and will only be truly appreciated later like Stanley Kubrick movies. I fell in love with GOT and so here I am, now after it has all ended, I remember again why I hate Hollywood. One reason I also gave too much credit for the show and the possibility of Petyr Baelish Theory is that I watched Twin Peaks the Return which is the most complex thing on TV, so compared to that PB Theory would have been easy.
@thersn8564 4 жыл бұрын
I was in disbelief that they would do something so stupid and out of character for him. But, it turns out the writers had actually become stupid.
@SunTzuMedia 4 жыл бұрын
@@bunqan-hu3785 hey man, I watched the whole series twice pretty much right before the last season aired... I was greatly disappointed in the last couple seasons especially the last season. I totally feel ripped off. I'm actually glad I didn't wait all those years for that shit ending. I couldn't imagine waiting week to week, month to month, for that terrible display of writing. If I had watched from the actual beginning, I definitely would have cut a bitch. Lol
@xXJAKMACKXx 5 жыл бұрын
HAHAH the way he pops out of the shadows like a cartoon villain is HYSTERICAL
@kj2532 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao so ridiculous
@WackySwackyAdventure 6 жыл бұрын
Other than the White Walkers, Littlefinger can more-or-less be seen as the main villain of the series. He started everything. All of the conflict was caused by his schemes. If he was to die, it should have been at the climax of the whole story, near the end, not by getting killed off like some side character because of a bunch of contrivances the writers just made up on the fly.
@adandypunk 5 жыл бұрын
He’s not dead though. As I’m sure you now know
@myoldvan119 5 жыл бұрын
@@adandypunk what you mean
@adandypunk 5 жыл бұрын
@@myoldvan119 he paid a faceless woman a bravosi coin to pretend to be him and take the death. I guarentee it.
@myoldvan119 5 жыл бұрын
@@adandypunk ooh that sounds good but idk man what proof do you have? The show hasn't really had good writing the last couple seasons
@adandypunk 5 жыл бұрын
@@myoldvan119 theres about 50 videos on it. theres no way Littlefinger is going out weak like that. And even if the show has weaker writing George RR's key plot points still have to be in there.
@Mr_Feyshade 6 жыл бұрын
The downhill slide began with the death of Barriston Selmy. George specifically told them "Do NOT kill Barriston Selmy", he's a vital character in later story lines. The double-douchebags stated later "That only made us want to kill him off more". George's input started to drop off more after that. Once they got to the end of the current material in the novels, it just became a script full of potential (or memes. Since many characters were dropped, combined, or killed off, the story potential dwindled to the point of season 7 being rushed, depending on action over story... because they didn't have one. When making a series based on the works of a world renown writer, don't piss him/her off by being an insufferable prick. Their behavior with George R. R. Martin may have turned other authors away from bringing their works to people that haven't read the books. Great video. Your script ideas were much better than the dumpster fire we got. Thank you.
@SaradinTheWise 6 жыл бұрын
its just irritating because the first couple seasons were so good. It seems the success went to D&D's heads. What a shame, what a waste...
@Mr_Feyshade 6 жыл бұрын
They went from trying to make a beautiful series to going on the worlds' most expensive vacation/business lunch.
@SETHthegodofchaos 6 жыл бұрын
do you have a link/source to that Barriston Selmy decision?
@SETHthegodofchaos 6 жыл бұрын
they might not have a story, but the did have the end, therefore it would be easily to connect the missing pieces. They had years to fill the gaps. They also made all the other seasons, which would lead me to think that they know exactly how their characters work and would know what they would be doing. Calling out the writers is very disrespectful for what they have accomplished already. And producing a show isnt all in the writers hands. maybe the Barriston Selmy actor was an asshole, maybe he was old and wasnt able to play his role anymore, who knows what else could be the reason they decided how they had decided. You cant compare the world building of a book to the world building of a movie or series.
@SETHthegodofchaos 6 жыл бұрын
SLUG BOY you're so quick to jump on the writer hate bandwagon wow man
@monkeyd.helton2503 5 жыл бұрын
"Why are you executing two men that have surrendered to you"? Season 8: what about executing the entire people of Kings Landing that have surrendered to you?
@LookingForAName... 5 жыл бұрын
*That didn't even really oppose being that they were civilians, the type of people you've been protecting ever since season 1
@benbrennan4953 4 жыл бұрын
Baelish, in the early seasons, played the game the best through intelligence, deception and cunning. He was one of my favorites and for him to exit the series like this was very very frustrating.
@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He was the picture perfect Slytherin, and he dies in such a dumb ass death.
@shabbyboy3242 2 жыл бұрын
I would rather have sansa killed and baelish live
@MrMingomango 5 жыл бұрын
they killed the best character of the series in the worst possible manner. I actually thought somehow littlefinger will end up on the iron thrones at last, because lets be honest , he was the smartest of them all.
@Jdb63 5 жыл бұрын
@John Hexagon Yes he was
@coyotepeyote 5 жыл бұрын
@Lolja Boi how does that make him shit? He didn't think Jaime would betray him and help Tyrion escape, and further that Tyrion would then kill him. Tywin was the only one holding Kings Landing and its alliances together, immediately after he died the Sparrows moved in and manipulated Tommen and Cersei into forming a theocracy. Cersei is too petty and myopic to hold the kingdom for long... Although show Cersei is not as dumb as book Cersei she still doesn't think far past her nose and now she doesn't have Jaime to help her either.
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@@coyotepeyote Tywin had always his way with power. His intimidating character grew fear even in his family. He was second to none doing this. He knew how to use his words in the right way, never letting anyone go against his will, there was no way questioning his authority. Cercei was outmatched by the sparrows plotting, he pressed all the right buttons on whoever he spoke to. Like another Littlefinger, using the faith as the ultimate masterplan for power. Later Cercei gets a bit better in managing her kingdom, but she is still too blind out of hate, to be like her father... And Jaime is the biggest fool for the longest time... I had hopes for him when he got his hand chopped off and into that love triangle with cercei and brienne... xD Even though he lost a lot of his charme, because he wasn't a good fighter anymore. That could change him, i thought, but he is helpless, i guess till the end, even when he is pissed about everything, he loves his twin sister more then anything... I hope she gets eaten by a dragon...
@adandypunk 5 жыл бұрын
He’s not dead. You’ll see
@lilwater7358 5 жыл бұрын
He isn't dead anyway.
@jimslancio 6 жыл бұрын
By this point, the show is fan fiction. Littlefinger will be dead only if and when George R. R. Martin "Double R" kills him off in the books.
@patrickm7869 6 жыл бұрын
Then it's highly likely Littlefinger will never die (because he won't finish writing the books) ba-dum-tsh
@ArkhanTheMack 5 жыл бұрын
What? Why the fuck would the show be canon to the books? You've got ASOIAF where the only things canon are the things from GRRM's books and you've got the GoT show where only the show is canon. They're two different stories with the same starting point, but go in different directions.
@ArkhanTheMack 5 жыл бұрын
If you're watching the show and don't give a shit about the books, then no, the books don't matter.
@clary3020 5 жыл бұрын
I think they meant that the show is written in a way bad fan fiction might be written, because it seems the same to me. Heavy, heavy plot armor, ridiculous dialogue and plot twists, so much fan service (Littelfingers death, the Stark reunion, Dany and Jon boning, the 'good guys' getting literally everything they want/need) and bad and lazy writing. Game of Thrones (the show) used to tell the story of a cruel and unforgiving world where actions would have consequences. It has evolved into a Hollywood YA fantasy movie
@mrvulture8981 5 жыл бұрын
So hes like J.R.R.Tolkien?
@hapablap2088 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just deny it? Theres no evidence, its just Sansa the bold and braves word. Just say "No, I didnt do that". The idea that Sansa could just murder a noble of Littlefingers status in front of everyone, is utterly unbelievable.
@LoneWalker59 5 жыл бұрын
If you think that was bad just wait till you see s08e03, the biggest letdown of 2019
@nolives 5 жыл бұрын
Arguably biggest let down in literary history.
@btchiaintkidding7837 5 жыл бұрын
@@nolives yall need to watch the "how to kill nk for dummies" from channel: robdogs house of..." , it was more entertaining.
@bergles7236 5 жыл бұрын
Episode 4 and 5 would like a word.
@thepainkiller4939 5 жыл бұрын
@@bergles7236 Early call to episode 6
@Xtoff 5 жыл бұрын
@@nolives Biggest letdown was Hotpie not being the Prince That Was Promised.
@TalkingThrones 5 жыл бұрын
You made some really good points when it comes to what Littlefinger should have said. Those were very reasonable explanations, given the circumstances. That could have worked, or at least bought him some time. Well said. Good video.
@hannahjoquain74 5 жыл бұрын
Talking Thrones i like your reviews better.
@nathansarver 4 жыл бұрын
Hadn’t Tommen banned trial by combat by this point though? So that option wouldn’t be available to him.
@rafaelviana7651 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathansarver The North claimed independecy from the Seven Kingdoms. They shouldn't follow the rules Tommen set. And, anyway, the ban of trial by combat was a dumb move from the writer. It was a legitimate and very traditional way to judge crimes, and the nobility seemed to use it to get away from harsh situations. The nobles wouldn't just accept the end of trial by combat without resistance. And Cersei would for sure bring back trial by combat becaude of this.
@Maltesfilm 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathansarver The north don’t accept the Lannister’s as rightful rulers, and since a lot of northerns follow the old gods they have no reason to listen to some priest of the sevens who says they should change their ways.
@GunRecon 2 жыл бұрын
Arya and Sansa had already made their decision. When the three-eyed raven says you're a traitor...there's not much you can do with that.
@roguedrones 6 жыл бұрын
spy-master can't handle cripple's wall-hack cheats.
@AlanMcG1978 5 жыл бұрын
this guy nailed it...lol
@wasteaccount1075 5 жыл бұрын
and who gets banned? not the cheater, but the victim. thats the real problem with got.
@eccentrichorse11 5 жыл бұрын
I was the 100th like OMG
@JeronCradle 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's as simple as that. There literally can't be spies or double crossers anymore in Winterfell. People are just pissed their favorite character is killed off and can't handle it. They try to counter argument it, but nothing can counter argument Bran! Magic is OP and always will be.
@Inerrant1 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember feeling this same way about this episode and this totally contrived plot... So I went into Season 8 with low expectations. Boy, they sure did manage to subvert my expectations by being even WORSE than I could have imagined.
@redpink99 4 жыл бұрын
Could’ve had a subtle callback to the “power is power” line to show Cersei’s has rubbed off on Sansa a little when he tries to use knowledge and quick wit whilst she just shoots him down with her authority. Annoying yes, but it shows how unfair this world is and how Sansa has learnt SOMETHING with the Lannister’s
@chrisofnottingham 6 жыл бұрын
Basically, these guys are writing a Hollywood script and not a fantasy historical novel. Their strength seemed to be in adaptation and production, not story. You are right that it is totally out of character for LF, not least because he is clever enough to know that pleading won't work but mainly because he always had a way to twist things, like the defence you gave.
@zeusapollo6504 5 жыл бұрын
LF should be never in such a situation in the first place - he was always many steps ahead of anyone! Extremely OoC.
@joedavis1601 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on. When they were adapting the script from the books, they were following plotlines. Now that they have to make the story, one can see that they have resorted back to lazy Hollywood ideas. "What do the viewers want to see?" Of course, maybe they just aren't as gifted as George Martin and this is the best they can do...which makes for "meh" TV. We'll always have the first 5 1/2 (or so) seasons though!
@leo_warren 5 жыл бұрын
In fairness GoT was not intended to produced for TV , the Iron throne in the books takes up a room, compared to being a grand chair
@markokrstic3562 5 жыл бұрын
There is literally no proof for ANY of the charges. Mind numbing writing
@Amazinggette 5 жыл бұрын
Marko Krstic Because there’s always so much proof for every other trial in game of thrones.... like what evidence has ever been presented in any game of thrones trial besides one persons word??
@markokrstic3562 5 жыл бұрын
Genevieve Carey Except Tyrion's first trial is clearly portrayed as a biased one. When you look at things from the side and examine all the pieces, it did make sense for him to murder Joffrey, the evidence was there. "Joy will turn to ashes in your mouth", his outright threats at the Council meeting all councillors heard... And then, we have Littlefinger's trial. If it was portrayed as dog justice, you know, Sansa just being keen on having Littlefinger killed regardless of the evidence, then I'd be fine with it. But it was portrayed as a "gotcha" moment, when it really wasn't. And what was up with Littlefinger's breakdown? Nothing Sansa said should have warranted such an act. Littlefinger we know would never break down like that, he'd keep lying and trying to get out of the situation to the bitter end, instead Sansa claims a few highly unreliable statements with zero evidence and everyone (Littlefinger included) acts like she's smart and outwitted him.
@markokrstic3562 5 жыл бұрын
John Hexagon "can" maybe, but he *didn't*
@markokrstic3562 5 жыл бұрын
John Hexagon Again, he *didn't* meaning, the Northern lords have no incentive to believe him. Tell me, if some kid came up to you and told you that your best friend is a killer and a traitor, would you believe them without proof? Just think about the implications
@markokrstic3562 5 жыл бұрын
John Hexagon Okay, okay... but you're not listening to me. He. DIDN'T. do any of that. He simply didn't. He didn't talk to the Northern lords to convince them, Sansa just took his word, and everyone else played along without a shred of evidence.
@yvngtonyb 4 жыл бұрын
It’s maddening how easily he could’ve gotten out of this shit Also, the more you did your impression the more I heard Littlefinger lmfao nice job bro ALSO also, a 10 minute WELL WRITTEN conversation (which I get is way too much to ask for from D&D) between Bran & Littlefinger before Littlefinger kills Bran with the Same knife used in his assassination attempt as a child would be fucking EPIC. Everyone in the world would’ve been dead silent for that. Littlefinger could’ve still been executed down the road but atleast Bran would’ve gotten an interesting end, rather than being kept around to do absolutely nothing for the remainder of the series.
@josephinerose3775 3 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger was my FAVOURITE character. I was so devastated with the way they killed him. He was literally the catalyst for everything that happpened in Game of Thrones. Your points in the video were spot on! He was far too intelligent to not realise that he was in danger when Bran quoted his “chaos is a ladder” line. Even if he had stayed, he definitely would have argued his case in the trial. He can talk his way out of anything - He’s Littlefinger! I would have even preferred it if it was Sansa who killed him rather than Arya, as it would have thus been bittersweet; Sansa being his kryptonite all along - the whole student becomes the teacher scenario... Either way, I still do not think he would have even let that situation arise! Like you said, he would have either returned to the Eyrie or killed Bran as soon as he found out about Bran’s powers. He only stayed in Winterfell because D&D wanted to kill him off since they had no clue how to continue writing such an incredibly clever character. RIP Lord Baelish #mylord
@JC-yl5qh 6 жыл бұрын
Here's where this entire scene lost all its value for me: Sansa meets with Littlefinger in Moletown. Sansa asks him why she shouldn't order Brienne to cut him down where he stands. And typical Littlefinger is cold and Steely says "if you want me to beg for my life I'll do it, if you want me to die, then I'll die." Yet he goes from cold and Steely to cringing, cowering and sniveling?! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
@sickleobrian4614 6 жыл бұрын
JC when Sansa threatens him in moletown, he still believes that he has everything under control and it's even possible that he saw it coming, but when he is accused of the different and true acts at the "trial" at winterfell, he is caught by surprise. I'm not necessarily saying this to contradict, but also to see what your argument against this is
@shmoga 6 жыл бұрын
given the circumstances, only a fool would be that confident.
@RealChunka 6 жыл бұрын
@ Sickle O'Brian - good points! Additionally, LF knew that Sansa's threat was just that - an empty threat! Sansa needed his help to beat Ramsey and they both knew it. It's a lot easier to brave with an army at your back than it is standing alone in a room full of enemies.
@jomormont 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I thought it was brilliant because it showed the depths of what he would do to survive and win. He was trying everything he could muster to get her to not kill him.
@RealChunka 5 жыл бұрын
@Jo Mormont - Interesting idea! I hadn't considered this possibility, because lying, scheming, backstabbers are almost always cowards. I personally believe the crying and begging was real, but it is interesting to consider the possibility that it was just an act. This idea might make his death more palatable for those who still need to see him as a winner.
@jbot91 6 жыл бұрын
Season 7 was the biggest joke
@5foldunderstanding547 6 жыл бұрын
#GoT started to bleed when STAND-OUT "Brotherhood w/ out Banners" ARCHER AN-GUY Didn't Return in season 4, or at any point later (The actor himself couldn't figure out why he wasn't asked back)! *Also when Princess Arianna & Darkstar (A Dayne) had their storyline cut from the show! Arguably the most potential for A sub-plot.. Also killing off Lord Bolton alittle too early- WHO DIED FAR TO EASILY, ALSO WAS #STUPID!
@supershinigami1 6 жыл бұрын
And season 6 and season 5
@s.kellywoodrum533 6 жыл бұрын
yes boltin shudve esxaped an not seen again so the show cudve built on him coming back when everyone having a role by acting writing etc are all broke an need the work to pay the bills
@jbot91 5 жыл бұрын
B S "let's bring the dead to her" that's why. idk I just thought that it failed to compare to the previous seasons. It was boring and the plot made no sense. I think that they could have done a lot more with the second to last season.
@noobishmacgaming 5 жыл бұрын
jbot91 compared to walking dead and 90% of shows that make it that long, it’s still incredible. The camera work, fun writing + character moments. I can understand some complaints about timing and the pace, but acting like the show suddenly turned to garbage is laughable.
@thefancasthub6862 5 жыл бұрын
2K casuals disliked this video. PS: The White Walkers are dead. Super disappointing SMH
@KiltBill2 5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't what they did to him, it's the precedent it sets for "justice" in Winterfell. This is Tyrians show trial, with just as little evidence.
@tombarry1824 6 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger was one of the best characters on the show. And the best at playing the game of thrones. His death was lame and anticlimactic. He didnt even act like his character in that death scene. Thats why people are making theories that Little Finger paid for a faceless man from Bravos. And that was not him getting his throat cut. That he is still alive.
@Senate300 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Barry Accept Faceless Men don't get paid to sacrifice their own lives. They get paid to take lives.
@Weaseldog2001 6 жыл бұрын
He could've been a volunteer, like the ones that are terminally ill and give up their own faces.
@Senate300 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Dingler Accept Littlefinger was dismissive of them when Sansa mentioned Arya was one of them. Like he was dismissive of Brans sorcery until it was too late.
@Sumoniggro 6 жыл бұрын
Except he would have had to have his face skinned in order to have a faceless man pretend to be him, but I guess it is littlefinger and he may sacrifice his face in order to escape death
@boiboi5402 5 жыл бұрын
nah that isnt the case because apparently facelessmen can take the faces of live people. Remember when arya saw her face on the dead guy earlier ?
@susiechoban1542 6 жыл бұрын
Casually be my internet husband please, because FINALLY someone who makes sense! The 7th season was literally painful to watch. The best TV series out there, shattered to pieces. I agree with all your points at the beginning -especially Daenerys’s complete descent into the blinding hereditary madness with her tyrant obsession. Season 7 was an in-your-face insult to Littlefinger. He has literally started the wars, and was reduced to scheming within Winterfell to turn two sisters against each other. What a joke! And thank you for all the defence points you made. The whole “trial” was laughable with its redundancy. It was nauseatingly sloppy.
@zeusapollo6504 5 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous the writers should be ashamed.....and better read the books to learn more of the real CUNNING LF.
@vhsquiver 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, Littlefinger's not dead so fuck off.
@user-xd5lx2tx5l 5 жыл бұрын
HunterZ What a stupid statement. Criticism doesn't imply that they can create an original that is better than the product, it implies that they think the product itself could be better. "You're not qualified to criticise a thing, because you don't produce that thing." -- great, a point completely flopped up by banal ad-hom "gotcha" bullshit.
@bolg892 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-xd5lx2tx5l You have an arabic username, anything you say cannot be taken seriously.
@user-xd5lx2tx5l 5 жыл бұрын
HunterZ That would be Persian, not Arabic. What's this about being taken seriously?
@nidhibagari3250 2 жыл бұрын
In true Littlefinger style, the moment Bran said "Chaos is a ladder", he would've left Winterfell.
@izehsy6715 5 жыл бұрын
Season 7: I am the worst written season ever Season 8: hold my episodes
@praetoriancorps 6 жыл бұрын
what sucked about is, him turning sansa and arya against eachother doesn't gain him anything, expecially since john snow is king. I think he would have been better off helping defeat the knight king and then try to stir up trouble from the vale in some other way wich would gain him the iron throne.
@gallowglass3764 6 жыл бұрын
praetoriancorps yup. Thanks, D&D.
@SETHthegodofchaos 6 жыл бұрын
no you dont. they didnt even release yet xD
@thejudgmentalcat 6 жыл бұрын
He was ready to have Jon and Arya killed and jump into bed with Sansa. He'd burn the world if he could be king of the ashes.
@Prince_the_One 6 жыл бұрын
+Linda Ciccoli exactly, he wanted to marry Sansa
@Weaseldog2001 6 жыл бұрын
Who he wanted to marry, was secondary to his love of scheming. Pitting Sansa and Arya against each other, was far riskier and pointless than any action that he had undertaken in prior seasons. It was pointless for him to undermine House Stark at this stage in his game. There wasn't anything for him to gain, if he succeeded, his list of allies would grow slim. One does not simply undermine all one's allies, when you have so many enemies.
@MrArmystrong85 6 жыл бұрын
The death was also out of character for LF. He would have never gone out pleading for his life. He would have never allowed himself to get into that sort of situation where he is surrounded by enemies with zero allies. And even IF it was possible for Arya and Sansa to outsmart him (Its not) he would have been scheming until the end.
@gmallory 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Stark would've known all his intentions though. "Chaos is a ladder"
@MusicandGamesandStuf 5 жыл бұрын
He thought the Arryns were his allies. They didn't side with him because he was being called out and they saw him as a manipulator anyways.
@zeusapollo6504 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly its too OoC for LF. The writers should retire from this show. So insulting to have an episode like this. G.R.R.M. would have never wrote this. If, there must be a forced trial for plot reasions, it should have been more detailed and made interesting, instead there was just a swift execution! LF would have been never trapped like an idiot like this and if so, he would have at least escaped or even scheme beyond the grave. A man responsible for almost anything that happened in this war does deserve better.(and i think the actor played the character quite well, too) The only good thing is now, i am not too sad that the show soon ends...
@BhlackBishop Жыл бұрын
@@MusicandGamesandStuf rewatch the scene where Ned was arrrested, he didn't just "think" the gold cloaks were allies, he made sure they were allies. Stop trying to defend this garbage writing.
@Ash-ih4rz 5 жыл бұрын
Loool here after Season 8 ep 3 and im crying at how shit it was!
@SoddingSuperHero 5 жыл бұрын
After Season 8 Episode 3... I finally see the truth.
@juve96 4 жыл бұрын
GODS BE GOOD! Took you that long? You start seeing the cracks from season 5.
@tricko8000 4 жыл бұрын
Oberyn Martell “Seeing the cracks”? S5 was straight up GARBAGE, it felt like I was watching The Walking Dead. S6 was an improvement but still not even close to 1-4.
@Vojife 6 жыл бұрын
What a joke this show has become...
@Vojife 6 жыл бұрын
Barely any nudity left!
@carlmanvers5009 5 жыл бұрын
Barely any continuity left!
@bolg892 5 жыл бұрын
What a joke your life has become..
@johndims5098 5 жыл бұрын
plusmetal rise pretty much
@openbordersforisrael 5 жыл бұрын
@plusmetal rise it's because they have to be pc
@liviomoreira2457 6 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger is alive and well. A Bravosi faceless died for him.
@mathiass1999 6 жыл бұрын
Livio Moreira I hope so
@JG-bx1rc 6 жыл бұрын
If only, if only. Unfortunately D&D aren’t smart enough for that
@liviomoreira2457 6 жыл бұрын
Before Littlefinger got accused there was a scene of him talking to a woman who was wearing a cape. Littlefinger gives her something, but we can not really see what it was. Then we hear someone whisper "Your time is up" and the woman goes away. The unseen something he gave her was a Bravosi Coin, like Arya was given one by Jaqen Hagaal. So Littlefinger asked for a favor in return from the many faced god. Littlefingers selfdefence at the trial was pretty poor, very basic and not what we are accustumed to see him perform like. Cause it wasnt him. It was a faceless in Littlefinger disguise.
@liviomoreira2457 6 жыл бұрын
426 09 thats not true. They used Aryas face as she was still alive
@liviomoreira2457 6 жыл бұрын
426 09 I hope we get to know more about the faceless too. Maybe they can use your face even when alive if a special condition is met. Maybe the condition is handing back in the coin. The face of a cadaver would be needed to conserve the disguise/mask and to use the face without the cointrade.
@shubhragautam5955 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who acknowledges how stupid was littlefinger's death. Great work. But Comparing Daenerys to Roose Bolton is not logical for execution of Randyll Tarly and Dickon Tarly. They didn’t surrender to Daenerys they challenged her and opposed her after committing treason against her and Olenna Tyrell not to mention the mass murder of their brothers in arms, entire Tyrell army. Their execution was rightly done as they chose to die, they basically sentenced themselves to death not Daenerys. She gave these traitors a chance at life despite the fact they had sabotaged her most crucial ally. This shows that she is way more merciful than anyone else has shown in the entire show even more than Eddard Stark. Unlike Lannister’s she didn’t execute the entire Tarly family she only executed the people who were directly involved. What she did was within bounds of law of the time period this series is set in. If she would have executed the entire army that would have been cruel and straight up evil but she didn’t. She was absolutely right in executing the traitors who threatened her and murdered her subjects and ally. But D&D orchestrated the act in a one-sided fashion to paint Daenerys in in the worst way possible, to justify the stupid Mad Dragon Lady committing genocide story later. This doesn’t support that either because she was right in doing so. No one feels bad for execution of Frey’s because they murdered starks and their army posing as an ally and swore allegiance to. That’s what exactly Randyll Tarly did, its him who committed deeds comparable to Roose Bolton not Daenerys. D&D have constantly used stupid explanations and setups to justify absolutely senseless story line they created. Daenerys has been a constant target for character assassination in season 8 which is only parallel to that of Euron Greyjoy and Doran Martel. This is a fine example of marring her despite it being in bounds of what is perceived normal and expected thing to do in this situation. Not like literally every other character was also not reduces to mere shadow of what they use to be or a complete joke. But on these three D&D took extra care to degraded their character.
@joshuapetersen2019 5 жыл бұрын
If he's not still alive the show is dead in my eyes.
@florianlaur5300 5 жыл бұрын
The show died with Stsnnis, so they could give his story/glory to Jon. Why the heck would Melisandre bring back him anyway and not Stannis or both? Why didn't "20 good men" destroy his army? How did that huge cavalry leave the castle unseen? How did they feed thousands of horses? And where the f... did they keep them all this time? If Stannis gets killed with basically no losses to the Boltons, how could the worst military leader in Westeros, Mr "Let's just blindly charge at them with my plot armour" Jon Snow bring them to the brink of a loss?
@JC-yl5qh 6 жыл бұрын
And then Olena Tyrell threatens that if her house falls, she'll have nothing to lose and will reveal that she conspired with Littlefinger to kill Joffrey. Then the time comes and she says jack shit about it. WTF?!
@Hookahitter 6 жыл бұрын
she should have told Jamie about littlefinger and about hiding Sansa this whole time too. Total waste of a scene meeting in his brothel saying she will bring him down, why if no payoff. D & D got their awards, they are so ready to move on and it shows.
@merkules6 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe she didn't tell anything because she wanted to take the pride of killing Joffrey. And also didn't mention him in hopes of him keeping on scheming against the Lannisters. It makes sense when you think about it this way. Cercei took everything from her, not LF.
@worsethanjoerogan8061 5 жыл бұрын
Joffrey? Who was that again?
@BobsiPringlez 5 жыл бұрын
He was a consistently well-written villain, those don't exist on this show anymore
@TheHaakii 6 жыл бұрын
Finally someone made this video. His death made me frown real hard
@AgeofJP 6 жыл бұрын
his impressions of what Littlefinger should have said were great...he precisely hit his vernacular
@rkrokberg 6 жыл бұрын
I, too, love to practice my Stannis impression.
@daveboone7432 5 жыл бұрын
If you think this was stupid wait until you see season 8 episode 3 the long night. 😞😭😠
@reksub10 5 жыл бұрын
Arya,murders the bully with her sword,leaves the hound to die even though he saved her from the Frays,kills people for the "red god",wacks the old guy with a lump of wood over the head so her and the hound can steal the cart,murders all the frays, that's just the ones we know of,plus she wants beric to try and kill the hound for murdering the butchers boy even though she murdered the young bully . Miserable wee hypocritical shite.sansa is just pathetic.why are these people the hero's?they have a cheek to give Jamie Lannister a hard time just cause he killed a corrupt madman who's kingdom was overthrown anyway by Jamies father's army.i hope littlefinger used a faceless man to take the fall for him."I'm not going to fight them.....,I'm going to FUCK them".that would redeem the bad descion to kill him of ,most likely for budget reasons.Aidens paycheck went to pay for jon and danys dragon flying scene in season 8's 1st episode.which was utterly boring barr two scenes.
@SunTzuMedia 4 жыл бұрын
There is so many things wrong with this comment...
@omicron5529 6 жыл бұрын
Haha you're impression of Littlefinger is spot on. Too funny lol
@Cashout95 5 жыл бұрын
Is he an impression? Damn.
@fisheyes9744 6 жыл бұрын
Both Roose Bolton's and Little Finger's deaths in the show were really written poorly in my opinion. It was just so dumb. Walder Frey's death scene alone was written decent enough, but also fails for not being that satisfying for all the build-up that it took for that moment. If it wasn't for Arya killing all the Freys at the next episode remedying that (Which took place in another season!), I would have also considered the pay-off of the storytelling on Walder's death to be a failure.
@BobsiPringlez 5 жыл бұрын
With Walder it was kinda weird because we didn't know Arya had that ability yet so it was jarring and she'd only just finished her story line with the Waif. This was one of the first instances of characters teleporting
@zeusapollo6504 5 жыл бұрын
These deaths are nothing in comparassion of the levels of stupidity that LF's death was.....watch again. it was an insult to his cunning character in the books and past seasions. Also LF is maybe the most important Villain in GoT(other than the nightking and Cersei). Without him, no war and many major characters would still be alive. Roose Bolton and Frey there not at the same level as LF. Just pawns and their deaths were good enough for me, because they are not big players in GoT just annoyances with temporal power. In that trial execution the king of the chessboard of the shows first seasions got killed in the most stupid way possible.
@BautistaGresch 2 жыл бұрын
13:50 "It's not true, I didn't kill her, I did naaaat!" "you're tearing me apart Lysa!"
@papaburlap3385 3 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger's death infuriated me to unfathomable degrees. He's one of my favorite characters: skilled, cunning and ruthless. He takes no sides, outside of his own. And he plays his hands obscenely close to his chest. This is a man who has literally started wars, all without having to kill a single person. And what was his endgame...to take temporary control of the Vale? That's it? That was his master plan? He lied to one of his childhood friends, sending her down a road that ultimately lead to the death of her and most of her family. Those who didn't die where either forced to kill, traumatized and forced from their homes. And for what? A realm? A single realm. All of that talk being about chaos and ladders resulted in him not doing anything of note afterwards. It could have worked if Sansa and Littlefinger were playing a game of cat-and-mouse. What if Littlefinger reveals his plan to Sansa (we don't know what it is, but let's just say its not nice). She refuses him. After trying a number of times, Littlefinger realizes she can no longer be controlled, and he starts working on getting her out of power. Maybe he changes his story to Yohn Royce, and gets the Lords of the Vale to side with him. (Bran is a hippie tree god, he may be able to fight against this, but lets pretend he's just wheelchair shopping because D&D ended up doing that eventually.) Sansa will have to use everything she learned during her time in Kings Landing. What would Cersei do? What would Olenna and Marjory Tyrell do? What would Tyrion do? She'll make mistakes, but so will he. She was once a pawn in the Game of Thrones, now she'd prove she was a player. And when you play that game, you win, or you die. Hell, I'd take Littlefinger getting his throat slit after losing 2 out of 3 rounds to rock, paper, scissors. A least that would be entertaining. But, no. I have to hear the line "I did it to protect you." Over and over again. My brain broke from such stupidity, and yes. It's been over a year. But screw it, I'm still pissed!
@kkonstantinosss2 6 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger: *vanishes into a puff of smoke* * Appears behind Sansa* That was just my Kage Bunshin No Jutsu Littlefinger: Kamui, *Disappears with Sansa* Arya: Nani?
@blueshit199 5 жыл бұрын
get this weeaboo shit out of here please
@lonewolf12052 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed...I was a fan of little finger....he is smarter than this...im glad you saw what I saw
@JeronCradle 5 жыл бұрын
Its not about being smarter. LF was outsmarting Sansa and Arya. But you guys seem to forget about Bran. Bran told his sisters EVERYTHING. LF was chanceless.
@thatsabingo6695 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeronCradle yes but if you watched the video, you would realize that a crippled robotic teenager that can see through space and time is not a very compelling pieces of evidence. There is no reason anybody in that room except Arya and Sansa should believe in his powers.
@dagobertodominguez4624 5 жыл бұрын
Not only the scene but the entire season was an amazing shit
@AngryPanda. 5 жыл бұрын
28:19 "...Have Jamie rape Tyrion because it's been a few minutes since they went back on his story arc." OK not literally but this turned out to be very relevant.
@painlord2k 6 жыл бұрын
Another thing he could have told, about Arya, it is when he saw her with Tywin and didn't denounce her.
@shockwave1126 6 жыл бұрын
You should write for the show. I was disgusted how he died. The real LF was smarter than this. You're right, he could have defended himself with arguments as you suggested.
@zeusapollo6504 5 жыл бұрын
I think the real LF would be never in such a place. His cunning was ahead of everyone. Worst wirting ever and an insult to the books as well as the first seasions. OoC. But i guess, the showrunners are on some hard stuff, to consider people would accept this worst writing of the century.
@ralphiecifaretto8961 5 жыл бұрын
He was in a room full of people where everyone hated him.
@JeronCradle 5 жыл бұрын
There was no way to LF to forsee Bran's abilities. LF had no chance at all. No matter how good he is. LF was btw winning. It's all purely and solely because of Bran.
@thatsabingo6695 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeronCradle Nobody in that room should have any faith in Bran’s abilities besides his sisters
@Tom-yu9if 5 жыл бұрын
he went from a complex protagonist to a 1 dimensional antagonist
@Wveth 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was never a protagonist.
@mr.equity1120 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wveth I’m pretty sure you’re pretty sure that he was indeed a protagonist.
@theax40 5 жыл бұрын
Mate I can't believe you made us all wait 13 minutes before blessing us with that perfect Littlefinger impression.
@johnnyskinwalker4095 6 жыл бұрын
Nevermind the Trial, LF is uber-protected, he has spies everywhere. No knives would have come close to touching his neck. I'm sure a whole plan was put into place under circonstances where something like this would happen. A signal would be launched and a fire would break out in another room of the castle and under the chaos, other spies would have escorted LF back pretty quickly out of Winterfell.
@omenriver2399 6 жыл бұрын
Little Finger was by and large the most interesting character in all of the books. His whole trail was complete and total bullsh!t. They made the smartest person in the series a complete imbecile at the end. Excellent Analysis. Little Finger had plausible deniability on everything. Heck - He told Sansa several times they could leave Ramsey but SHE REFUSED because she wanted WINTERFELD. The Starks went from underdogs to callous semi evil smug folx. Sansa owes her life to LF at least three times. He offered to take her from Ramsey and she refuse but it was his fault? Did he not just deliver the victory at Winterfeld by bringing the Vale? You impression and ideas were spot on.
@toucansfootballclub 5 жыл бұрын
They ruined the Tyrion character too. He became a pathetic drunk. And stupid moreover.
@pickettmandi 5 жыл бұрын
@@bolg892 your words are hurtful.
@MasterRoyalSnow 5 жыл бұрын
Idk why the Vale was suddenly cool with Sansa lying about her Aunt's murder and covering up for Littlefinger ?
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@@MasterRoyalSnow They liked Sansa more, also she was bloodrelated and they probably thought all through the bank, that littlefinger is the shittiest person alive and has to be killed. Fuck there was no justice in this room, only coldblooded northmen(woman) who wanted to see blood. Did you see Arya? That soulless assassin... xD she's hot tho, and was crazy from the beginning. ;p
@ryunalunaris14 5 жыл бұрын
@Kapitan Dupa Yea you see, littlefinger had the unfortunate fate to get involved with people who are way too honorful and dense. As a party united against him.. it's like hungry pigs and you look like a snack
@RichardVSmall 4 жыл бұрын
Your Littlefinger impression is actually pretty good - your ideas for how his character should have acted though are excellent! Makes me really sad that so many characters, stories, themes etc. were just abandoned by these hack writers when they ran out of superior material to work from. It retroactively ruins the first 4 seasons as well, because if you watch them again you're just contstantly aware of how much mystery, character development, build-up etc. is just wasted in the latter 3 seasons. This is the biggest writing fuckup of the millennium so far.
@iulpo 3 жыл бұрын
"You gave Lysa tears of Lys to poison him". Littlefinger should have said: "Why am I acused of murder if you say Lysa poisoned Jon Arryn ? Lysa, not me." Regarding the betrayl of Ned Stark, well... in the books, Sansa is hugely responsible. She went and told Cersei that Ned plans on sending her and Arya back to Winterfell - thus, far away from "she's beloved Joffrey". This will cause a huge conflict between Sansa and Arya when Arya will find out. Because, it's basically Sansa's fault. She did betray her father for her beloved Joffrey.
@whensomethingcriesagain 4 ай бұрын
Tbf, Sansa telling Cersei probably had zero effect whatsoever, since Ned had already all but told Cersei himself exactly what he was going to do, and Littlefinger was already going behind his back to ensure that his terrible coup attempt would fail
@iulpo 4 ай бұрын
@@whensomethingcriesagain Cersei didn't need Sansa to act, but Sansa telling Cersei speeded things up. Later, Cersei tells Tyrion she barely made it, thanks to Sansa. My god, Arya will be furious, how she reacted in the TV show was nothing. She will eventually forgive Sansa...the pack survives, etc.
@whensomethingcriesagain 4 ай бұрын
@@iulpo What Cersei was referring to was stopping Ned from getting his daughters away from King's Landing and securing Sansa as a hostage. It's not like she was worried about Ned actually succeeding his coup, that was never on the table
@BerndXYCV 6 жыл бұрын
RIP the only person I rooted for.
@AtlisDe 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO for real.
@dbleo_ 6 жыл бұрын
for real I hope the White Walkers win now
@ghostsdragon9222 5 жыл бұрын
dbleo nahhh Euron Greyjoy all the way because gonna kill them all with the golden company
@Hirnlego999 5 жыл бұрын
Jon Arryn, Eddard Stark, Lysa Arryn, Joffrey all killed, LF partook in it all. LF is basically evil as Varys says (and not even Varys is that good, he too has revealed to the viewers that he wants the throne)
@PizzaRatJC 5 жыл бұрын
Angel oh piss off you conspiracy fookface. Ye see one theory video on the internet and that instantly convinces you he's alive and that you gotta go spam people with your bullshit
@monsterfurby 5 жыл бұрын
"A jawdropping impression" - Roger Ebert. Wow, that's dark. It also made me fall off my chair laughing.
@moneymedia90 5 жыл бұрын
BTW in case anyone was interested, I'm currently working on a full critique of season 8. Part 1 will hopefully be finished by the end of June and is looking to be my biggest project yet at around 2 hours for Part 1 alone. I was thinking about doing a follow-up to this video responding to some comments. But I'll probably just talk more in-depth about the scene when I do my full season 7 video (which I'll get to eventually). In the meantime, here's some things I figured I'd respond to since I've seen them come up quite a lot: "Trial by Combat was outlawed by Tommen" - The North declared independence in season 3. They have their own rules. "You just like Littlefinger" - Yes, and I hate bad writing. "Littlefinger is still alive" - lol "That's a great Littlefinger impression" - You're god damn right "You liked Euron? Euron Sucks!" - I liked the scene where Euron kills the sand snakes. It was good dumb fun. But in terms of good writing or doing the character justice, he was terrible.
@themomzshow7121 5 жыл бұрын
moneymedia i think you did a commendable job breaking down why Littlefinger deserved a better ending! Many of the Series 8 deaths felt rushed - most notably the death of the Night King, etc. It’s a shame they didn’t draw the story out to 8 episodes to end it properly
@dilbar09naz 4 жыл бұрын
@riflemanusa that's how I always saw it too. If anybody doubts Bran's powers he can just tell them a secret or a story they buried in the past and they would easily become believers. The reason little finger was caught off guard was because he faced something he had never anticipated, Bran's ability to see through people. LF strongest ability was to play people from behind the scenes but with Bran there was no behind the scenes and that's he was so desperately outsmarted.
@dilbar09naz 4 жыл бұрын
But don't get me wrong, I absolutely hated the stupidity of LF poisoning the relationship between Sansa and Arya because it would literally serve no purpose for him. However, poisoning the relationship between Jon and Sansa would make total sense and would eliminate Jon and since Sansa was already in LF hands then he would become warden of the North by marrying Sansa. He would get caught and his death could still be the same but at least he wouldn't playing such a pointless game of turning Sansa against Arya for no fucking reason.
@dilbar09naz 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason why the writers did the stupid brainless thing of LF turning Sansa against Arya instead of against Jon (the only guy standing in Sansa's way of becoming Queen in the North) was to mirror what he did with Catelyn and Lyssa. I don't know wtf is wrong with them? I guess when they ran out of material from the original author they just plagiarized seasons 1-4.
@dilbar09naz 4 жыл бұрын
LF plotting to turn Sansa against Jon and taking his throne would make his trial more believable because any schemes against the king is treason and the punishment is death. His trial would go as it did but the events leading up to it wouldn't be a pointless child's play on LF part.
@sole__doubt 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as Baelish was my favorite character on GoT. Great points and I honestly can't find any fault with any of your points. The downward slide of the show, and every character I liked on it, needs to be pointed out in a thoughtful manner as you've done here. I only wish I'd have found this video earlier. :)
@CharlesZane_ 6 жыл бұрын
Typical idiocy from D&D. They constantly write scenes that contradict previous scenes, while also referencing previous scenes which shows that they are aware of the breach in continuity. Also, in this scene Littlefinger is the lord protector of the Vale. Most of the lords at Winterfell are Vale lords and would be duty bound to protect him. It’s dumb on some many levels...
@willmosse3684 5 жыл бұрын
Stan The Man I’m not sure about your final point. Littlefinger is only Lord Protector of the Vale by virtue of his marriage to Lysa, the widow of the previous Lord of the Vale and mother to the current but underage Lord of the Vale. Once the Lords and Knights of the Vale know that Baelish killed Lysa Arryn in order to seize power, the legitimacy of his rule has gone. If anything, they would be honour bound to kill him and avenge the Lady of the Vale. We see this when Baelish tries to command Lord Royce to take him back to the Vale, and Royce refuses.
@bolg892 5 жыл бұрын
He was an antagonist, fucktard. He was supposed to be killed off.
@eXcommunicate1979 5 жыл бұрын
Right, but all Royce and the Knights would have is the word of Sansa, who is admitting she previously lied to them about Lysa's death. They are bound to Sweet Robin, and Sweet Robin had essentially made Littlefinger the Lord Protector. The way they should have played it was that ROBIN, not Sansa, had sentenced Littlefinger to death in absentia, and Royce would produce a letter to that effect when LF begs Royce to save him. That way, Sansa doesn't look like a murderer and the behavior of the Vale Knights makes more sense.
@willmosse3684 5 жыл бұрын
eXcommunicate1979 I totally take your point that “all they have is the word of Sansa”, who has just told them she lied before in any case. That is a completely valid criticism of this scene - no evidence was ever produced to prove these allegations. That is a totally valid criticism - it is stupid. All I was saying was that if we get past that admittedly stupid point and accept that, in this world, Littlefinger’s guilt has been established, then I don’t think an appeal to the Lords of the Vale would work. Once they “know” he killed Lysa they will kill him. I don’t think they’ll be thinking about Sweetrobin back in The Vale. Sweetrobin is still in his minority, so though they have to respect him as their lord, executive power does not actually sit with him but with his regent. Littlefinger is that regent, but once his legitimacy has been destroyed, who now holds power? Sweetrobin is still in his minority, so it’s not him, though he clearly has influence and might be the deciding factor if he were on the scene. But he isn’t on the scene. Littlefinger might be able to retrench his authority if he could get back to Sweetrobin in the Vale, but that’s not where he’s at right now. And, if Littlefinger is out of the picture then the Lords of the Vale will get that power for themselves - presumably Bronze Yohn, as the greatest of the Vale lords. And they all know that Sweetrobin is weak - what’s he actually going to be able to do to Bronze Yohn if Yohn returns to the Vale saying “I have avenged the murder of your mother and your father”, and he is perceived as the legitimate Lord Protector by all of the other lords and nights? Nah. If there is even a plausible suggestion that Littlefinger illegally seized the rule of the Vale, he ain’t making it out of that room alive.
@fuccckckkkkckkck 5 жыл бұрын
He should have been killed in a better fashion than a shitty rushed death honestly. I really do hope George does his death scene in the book more justice. Also George has always said that this view on the protagonist and antagonist is way more different than the stereotypical boring and over done version that centuries of lazy writers have used.
@jiffylou98 5 жыл бұрын
Little Finger was one of the most interesting characters in the show up until season 6. He was the perfect foil to Varys (a do-gooder who ended up doing bad for the realm, and thus bad for all life) as a selfish ass who ends up doing good for the realm (killing an insipid child king) by pure accident. He represented everything that was GOOD about the show, thematically and mechanically. Little Finger in the show is what makes life (fire) in all its chaos, self-centeredness and arbitration different and valuable as opposed to the forces of death (ice) that the white walkers in their reasonless, choiceless form exemplify. Everyone talks about liking the show for "the intrigue" and "the seediness" and yet when a character's entire purpose is intrigue plots and owning a brothel, they mindlessly cheer at his idiotic death like the black and white moralists they are. It speaks to the indifference or incompetence of the writers that you, a (let's be honest) schmuck who's appreciation and knowledge of the show came purely from watching it, can do a better plot AND death scene with less than a month's time.
@Eddneton94 5 жыл бұрын
what bad has varys done for the realm that you speak of?
@jiffylou98 5 жыл бұрын
He was responsible, at least in part, for the deaths of Tywin and Ned, as well as propping up Daenerys which throws the realm into further chaos.
@yandrak4621 5 жыл бұрын
@@Eddneton94 killing Kevan Lannister when he was gonna try to make things good.
@veritasinvicta8128 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite scene in the whole show was when Bran says "Chaos is a ladder" and Littlefinger's face.
@Shelfishbeach 5 жыл бұрын
He was my favourite character since the beginning. I still haven’t got over his death. R.I.P Petyr Baelish.
@sharkfinn4 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Littlefinger's death, ironically enough, was very poorly executed. However, I do think that Bran's testimony against him is rock solid. If anyone questioned how he knows that, or why they're supposed to believe it's the truth, Bran could just keep on spitting people's secrets back at them until they realize he really has total recollection of the history of mankind at his disposal. But that's why I thought your idea of having Littlefinger at least TRY to assassinate Bran earlier on in the season would've made a lot of sense, and could have culminated in this sort of trial, where Littlefinger realizes his knowledge really is no match against Bran's, and that he's gonna have to demand a trial by combat. That would've made it his very last resort, and they could've kept him in the dungeons or something until Jon came back next season to gut him like a fish.
@wisdommanari6701 4 жыл бұрын
Sure except you have to come up witht that shit yourself. it should be shown to us why the people in that room would belive his testimony. The cast is not the MF audience they have not seen what we have seen
@noragriffin6432 Жыл бұрын
No, Arya would have killed him easily.
5 жыл бұрын
soooo, you did not like the way littlefinger died, do you? oh, this kid has superpowers and know me... let me just stay here and piss him off
@TheAnanaki 6 жыл бұрын
The implications of LF's trial as far as the Northern Lords are concerned is that Sansa will execute you without proof while being a guest under her roof. How do all of them not react to this the same as the Karstarks reacted to their father's execution? Lord Karstarks execution was actually justifiable and even so eventually others abandoned Rob because of it. LF's was not. Why hasn't (and won't) Robin join with Cersei now? Or at least wage war on the North himself. This whole season was a mess and the trial just brings into focus all the other inconsistencies of this and previous seasons. It would have made much more sense for Sansa to have Arya use her skills to just murder LF without all this unnecessary pretext if D&D wanted to go the revenge route.
@moneymedia90 6 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the final season will simply be the "good" characters overcoming the "evil" ones without much nuance in D&D's desperate rush to be done with the series. Logic has well and truly been thrown through the moon door.
@benjammin9471 6 жыл бұрын
TheAnanaki *Karstark. The men who left after his execution were exactly that, his men. Loyal to House Karstark. Littlefinger doesn't have an army loyal to him. And the reason is that nobody likes Littlefinger in the North or the Vale besides Sweetrobin who is miles away and doesnt know yet and also not the brightest and helps Sansa because she is his cousin. The Knights of the Vale are in the North under Lord Royce who defo hates Littlefinger so he's happy with the outcome. I don't know if it was the most fitting death scene but it does make sense.
@SETHthegodofchaos 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if i would call him a guest. He is an ally that in the past and in the present schemed against her family to gain power. Of course you would execute that traitor.
@raulzaha3096 6 жыл бұрын
He schemed against Ned because he loved Cat, not against the whole Stark family. He started a war that did involve the Starks, that's true, but he didn't have anything against the Starks specifically. In his rise to power in the Vale he did everything by the books, as far as public opinion goes. Regardless what Lord Rolls Royce had against him on a personal level, in the eyes of the other soldiers and the general public he didn't do anything that dishonorable. In the eyes of the public: He overthrew the absolutely crazy Lady of the Vale saving Sansa in the process, which I'm sure everyone was somewhat relieved by, and I'm sure the general public would've given LF some points for sticking out for their allies (i.e. Sansa Stark). He advised sweetrobin and made sure he was a better ruler than his mother was. He basically saved Jon in the battle of the bastards, showing again that he honors alliances. The reason people hated LF wasn't because everyone knew he was a little lying slimy bastard. If that were the case he wouldn't have gotten far. It was only people who knew him closely that really hated him. Why? Because he was a little lying slimy bastard who manipulated everyone to get power in such a way that nobody could do much about it. That's why people who really knew him hated him. Not because he was a lying cheat. More because there was nothing they could do about it. Hell, even Sansa liked and trusted him at first, bacause she didn't know him very well and from the outside it seemed like he was doing everything by the book. It's when she got close enough to see his real side that she feared/hated him. Sure, several people might not have had a problem with just executing LF on the spot without giving him any chance to defend himself. But if they wanted to give him a trial the general public should not have been okay with it. Northerners especially would not have taken such dishonorable behaviour, much less from the children of Eddard Stark.
@shimonorenji7020 6 жыл бұрын
He was not murdered as a guest, but executed as a criminal after trial. From my understanding, the "murder a guest/host" crime is to be understood as a way to regulate war in the 7 Kingdoms. The Red Wedding was a war plot by Tywin/Roose/Walder. Murdering a guest and executing after trial are different. The Red Wedding and Tanner killing Craster were murders against guests/hosts, not executions after trials. Jaime, a guest, attempted murder on his host Bran. If he was caught then, he would have had a trial and been executed by Ned. LF was the cause of the whole Stark House downfall; of course they should execute him after trial.
@squoblat 6 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger and Varys should have had a showdown, that was the only fitting end.
@darronslagle6245 5 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger isn't dead. And that will for sure happen. (i'm sure hoping)
@whydoineedahandlewtf 5 жыл бұрын
@Koss Totally agree!
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 4 жыл бұрын
As bad as season 7 was, at least one good thing came out of it. At least the Sand Snakes we’re finally gotten rid of.
@ebrh1502 5 жыл бұрын
literally the best character of the show. rest in peace
@patricioansaldi8021 5 жыл бұрын
RIP any hope of season 8 being enjoyable and having a decent ending.
@Sarahmint 5 жыл бұрын
Number 1 (killing Bran with the same dagger that attempted his life before) is fitting with the style of Game of Thrones. Would have loved a shock death like that
@Iritis- 5 жыл бұрын
They could have had LF kill Bran directly and had that be what ultimately gets him executed instead. Bran is another character that the writers obviously have no idea what to do with at this point, they just use him as a plot device.
@dragosmic4903 5 жыл бұрын
and Sansa kills him for killing Bran
@AndrewBoniface09 5 жыл бұрын
Rocky Desert Flower you don't understand ASOIAF. This is not about smart schemes and shocking deaths anymore like the first 4 seasons. Starting with Season 5 (Season of Dance with Dragons) the narrative has shifted to the ressurgence of the Starks after their downfall, the rise of Tyrion as hand of the true queen, and the coming of the Night Walker.
@AndrewBoniface09 5 жыл бұрын
Rocky Desert Flower these entire series isnt really based on people battling for the Iron Throne - to bad they had to stick with "Game of Thrones" when they could have named the second season, Clash of Kings. Then you'll understand why season 7, A Dream of Spring (originally titled A Time for Wolves) ends with the Starks finally thriumphant over Baelish.
@noxturn8620 5 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewBoniface09 there is no reason to believe that the Stark's would come out triumphant in the dream of spring. The title dream of spring itself implies that a happy ending(spring) is just a fantasy(dream). This story will end in winter.
@nikolasmoore2252 6 жыл бұрын
Great clip. I agree that the writers could not have written Littlefinger's demise worse. While they were at it they managed to turn one of my favourite characters (Arya) into one of my least favourite - I saw her as the true villain in the Winterfell storyline having massacred all those phrase at the start of the season, and making death threats against her sister. (Sansa also used to be one of my favourite characters too until the writers stuffed up her character.)
@mukta4689 10 ай бұрын
😅 sansa was my favourite character as well but her cold, detachedness towards Tyrion made me mad at her. She, of all people should have been grateful when she was raised in such a horrible situation with such horrible people.
@harveyweinstein349 5 жыл бұрын
Season 7 episode 6 is the biggest disgrace to GOT you could write.
@JeneralGared 5 жыл бұрын
Mike P season 8 episode 3 disagrees
@campi832 5 жыл бұрын
@@JeneralGared or ep. 5 for that matter
@aleksandarzivic8093 4 жыл бұрын
S7 e6, S8 e3,5, 6 death race
@kingpotatochips9458 5 жыл бұрын
thats some hot voice acting
@asideofaioli4630 5 жыл бұрын
*Made me drop my granny panties right to the floor. Like all the way....dowwwwnnnn, to my cankles.*
@genericsavings 5 жыл бұрын
The show is rushing to the finish line and fan servicing to no end. Eh, I just turn off my brain and enjoy the ride.
@barb7124 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Oooo dragons! - everybody watching.
@WilliamBKeck 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! There's wayyyyy to many whiney bitch's in this section. Guess what allot of characters are gonna die before it's all over.
@josend 5 жыл бұрын
totally right. I felt that when Cercei blew up the Sept of Baelor. It was like "mmm the plot at kings landing its getting a bit complicated, lets wrap it up by blowing everyone and leaving only Cercei".
@WilliamBKeck 5 жыл бұрын
@@josend I know what you meant, but " blowing everyone",😁 would make it a completely different kind of show.😨
@st8vie282 5 жыл бұрын
@@josend was still a cool scene though
@MrHatetheplayer 6 жыл бұрын
the first time i saw this scene, i couldn't articulate in my brain why i hated it at the time, but i knew i absolutely hated it. thanks for your perspective, it was scary how many good points you bring up, it dug up a lot of the feels i couldn't put into words probably due to the shell shock of one of my FAVORITE characters getting the axe so suddenly
@nonnonbutlove1642 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. HBO should look at these videos and hire you guys instead.
@thespacesbetweenstudio3346 2 жыл бұрын
Little Finger was actually so smart he saw that anyone that survived into Season 8 became absolute morons so he let Sansa play her stupid game and kill him off before he had to enter Season 8
@BNG1Fdarest 6 жыл бұрын
I swear those two dorkie writers think they are clever... its human nature, to think you are a better writer than the original, because you get so much praise from the average non book readers..who are sheep.. You on point!! Lil Finger is a master politician/schemer and he got bested by some dumb teenagers, not that wouldn't happen if GRRM said so, but he would of done it where it makes sense..
@RealEvilLordExdeath 6 жыл бұрын
i hope in the books he dies even more pathetic in your eyes. this guy desirves nothing more then a slow painfull death, this swift throat cutting he got was too good for him.
@SETHthegodofchaos 6 жыл бұрын
But for a series that knew exactly how the story would end, they would also know where their characters would go, espacially since they had detailed talks with GRRM himself. They would have known years ago where each and every characters path would go/end. They had time enough to flesh out and give each character an approriate ending. I would like to know what you think about the "Littlefinger is still alive" theory with him being replaced by a faceless man to fake his death. It is a much more plausible explanation why Littlefinger died... because he want to. To me Littlefinger and Varys are the two people that are scheming at the same time and they should collide at the end of story for a final showdown. Just pointing at the "writers are bad" is kind of disrespectful when we compare it to what they have accomplished in all the other seasons. its not like they swapped out writers or they suddenly forgot how their characters work. i think they know exactly what they are doing.
@tox1c462 6 жыл бұрын
i really hope littlefinger is still alive even tho if the theory is true we might not see him again :S
@BNG1Fdarest 6 жыл бұрын
riisichbrot: Nah, all i want is to see what GRRM does. If you are a real fan of his you would stop trying to insert our own ideals and let the story unfold according to his vision. Trust me, he will come up with something better and more clever than anything we can come up with. To be honest, what would be real is if people like Little Finger die peacefully in their death bed, just like real life politicians who never pay for shit in this life. Just like mobsters who are rich, never go to jail but get all the luxury this life has to offer because unlike your average person, who would never kill or harm others to get what they want, people like LF would kill their own mother to get it . I wouldn't be surprised if he lived through all this, that would be bitter sweet.. You think those two dorks D&D's writing of these characters are better than the vision GRRM had? seriously?..you must not have been paying attention to his whole book series...guess thats why we arent GRRM.. Yeah they know the outcome but money and fame corrupts, that's as old as time. Just listen to their interviews, especially Benioff, hes a liar. Claims to be a history nerd but never read history books cept for one about the civil war a few years ago. And they even claim straight out scenes were made to show the talents of their favorite actors, they got star struck, fuck the plot or story...after hearing that shit from their own mouths how can anyone defend them being clever and that they did all this on purpose...maybe GRRM...but these two hacks?? cmon...
@DavidSmith-ss1cg 6 жыл бұрын
Seth - D and D knew what the ending would be but not exactly how GRRM planned to get there. After the show started, some of the actors did such a great job that the Dizzy Duo expanded their story lines, which meant "tweaking" the overall story. This is why the TV plot lines have diverged so far from Martin's written story, and then there's the obvious(or is it oblivious?) fan service plot devices - not to mention the scenes played out for sheer spectacle. Sadly, it doesn't matter; like the guy who produced this video, I plan on reading the Last books and don't really care how the show ends. He is certainly correct about one thing, though - Littlefinger's death scene was a stinker. I actually wonder if D and D let the offspring of some HBO exec write the scene to get a small writing credit, as a favor to that exec, maybe as a payback for a favor. We will not know for sure until the documentary about "The Making of "A Game of Thrones": A Tale of Idiocy and Mediocrity" comes out in 2020.
@Twinkerb3ll3 5 жыл бұрын
Plus Baelish even said to her "We can head back to the Eyrie if you don't want to do this. This is your choice" YEAH he was like, PRESSURE. But it was HER decision to marry Ramsay Bolton. So just because he suggested it doesn't mean she has to do it. ALSO Baelish is not that much of an idiot. I agree! For a man who has survived this long and basically orchestrated so much important shit and then he had nothing left up his sleeve. HE'D HAVE PLAN A-Z AND THEN SOME. Kill him off, cool, IDK i can respect a good death scene. But that was a Half assed, ham handed attempt to do SHOCK DEATH that made this show famous and after about SEASON 4 the deaths started becoming superfluous and typical and it became too much. What the show was made famous for was now it's most annoying characteristic: Meaningless, out of nowhere deaths.
@patricioansaldi8021 5 жыл бұрын
that's right, it was completely and utterly out of character for little finger to let himself get killed like that. it was annoying as a mofo to watch all that transpire. you'd think baelish would be the ONE character who knew how to not get assassinated!
@stupidgirl01234 5 жыл бұрын
I loved Littlefinger :,(. I understand him dying but I think your version with Sansa ACTUALLY tricking him would have been much better. Littlefinger and the Hound are the best imo.
@audreyng7281 5 жыл бұрын
lowkey still hope Littlefinger takes the throne lol, he’s one of the few that actually plays the game.
@alexg2083 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still hoping he's not dead lol we will see.
@Indigo199517 5 жыл бұрын
Do you really think D&D are intelligent enough to think of that?
@giocommentary 5 жыл бұрын
@@Indigo199517 check out TheParadoxAnalyser on YT and his theory on LittleFinger ;) EDIT: who's dagger did it? a man has said: a man with no motive is a man no one suspects. think about the colors of a mockingbird. I know a killer, a real killer. you're like a kitten to him, he could kill you with his 'Littlefinger'' littlefinger lightbringer, Jaqen h'ghar Azor ahai. look around you, we're all lairs here...
@dreadpiraterobertsii4420 5 жыл бұрын
How do you believe he could still be alive I mean his throat was slit
@Indigo199517 5 жыл бұрын
@@giocommentary Unless Littlefinger appears in the last episode like a damn "gotcha!" villain, I'm entirely convinced Dumb & Dumber have killed him off.
@Ladyblanche85 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great take on that ridiculous scene! Not sure if I could have put it any better... And a special thanks for #8! And yes, even after all this time, I'm still not over it. As much as I love Aidan Gillen and would still miss him in the final season, it's ok that Littlefinger died, but just not like this! If I were to make a wish for what should have happened, I would say, that he might have tought Sansa a little too much about the game so that he would have gotten outsmarted by his own apprentice at some point.
@AtlisDe 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I wanted to see the true masterminds try to out maneuver eachother. Varys vs Baelish :P
@wiseguymotionpictures1416 5 жыл бұрын
8:52 you know if the show had just stuck a little closer to the book they could have actually had Sansa witness Littlefinger confess to doing most of these things. The northern lords trusting Bran’s three eyed raven powers as some kind of evidence factory in future trials would seem to be a bad precedent. Also who else is peeved by Sansa constantly having people killed in ways that aren’t the northern way? Ramsay eaten by dogs, Littlefinger with his throat cut, etc. Haul his ass outside and put his head on the chopping block FFS.
@crazyweirdgirl115 5 жыл бұрын
eh, than kinda makes sense for Sansa though. She's learned a lot from Cersei and Littlefinger. And the death of Lady is season one really foreshadowed her leaning towards a different way of doing things. She's still a Stark, but she's the Stark most comfortable with playing dirty.
@virgilioapolinariojr.6630 5 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video. Thank you very much. My boi, Petyr, was butchered and it truly hurts to watch that scene. Aidan Gillen's acting and Sansa Stark's tears is the only reason I watch it. Thank you again! Also, great impression. 🤣🤣🤣
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