I feel sorry for the actors and crew who had worked on the show who had put work into GOT for so long. Everybody cared just not d&d and HBO was even willing to do more seasons, d&d did not care and wanted to move on. Sad

Bruh, they aren't even traditionally trained screenwriters. David Benioff is literally a trust fund kid who got shoe horned into Hollywood because of daddies money. And D.B. Weiss was only there as his side kick and to market the "Writing Duo" rather than the traditional team of writers. HBO and GRRM also offered them additional writers, directors, advisors, and even said they'd be willing to give them up to 12 seasons to wrap up Game of Thrones nicely on television. They turned it all down because they wanted their sole names to be the writers of the show. And then when HBO and GRRM asked that they pass on the show to another show runner rather than end it outright they refused again because they still wanted the fame alone. Fuck them both, they're selfish manchildren.

@@EL-ISS my god this is such a shame, i have no words

D&D made all seasons though, didn't they? So they clearly cared at some point because the early seasons were good.

@@edmis90 they cared for the first 3 to 4 seasons. From season 5 the quality dipped. Season 6 they started killing off characters rapidly like they were trying to get it over with. By season 8 they had clearly lost interest. They should have handed the show to someone else or hired other writers to help them but they didn't want to share the fame with anyone

And look what happened. Became one of the biggest let downs in tv history, so I hope they fully comprehend the level of dumbasssary

I heard that my thought was “this egotistical asshole” that comment alone showed that he didn’t even try to understand, he wanted it his way and how dare anyone else want it any other way

they did baristan the badass so wrong in the show and the worst part is if they would have actually listed to the man who was clearly a fan and fleshed out his arc season 5 wouldn't have sucked as much as it did. Just imagine Selmy training Danys new queens guard, fighting Hizdahrs pit fighter to the death and leading the unsullied into battle! Fucking unenlightened self aggrandizing nimrods. I am glad they lost their stupid starwars show, not that they could have fucked it up any more than Rian Johnson, jar jar Abrams and Darth hideous the unwise Kathleen Kennedy. on second thought they probably could have it would have been a match made in hell!

Ego unfathomable

@@clearshade3560 I genuinely doubt they give a shit. They were trying to move on to other projects like the fucking Star Wars sequels. Glad they never got the chance, because for whatever reason they dropped those projects (or more likely they were dropped *from* those projects post-GoT and they said they wanted to do other things to save face).

Precisely as Bradley is their buddy an I don't think they read the book's but I'd say Ian aka Sir Barristan did

It’s fucking braindead. Idc if he was old this man had the greatest feat out if any Westerosi Knight in history arguably. Slayer of Maelys Blackfyre ffs 😂

They weren't soldiers either. They were just the sons of nobles and shit. They weren't even street toughs. They were rich little brats with knives.

​@BrokeProphet eh, most noblemen usually have some combat training, but yeah, nowhere near baristans

@@michaeld7945saw yes even for sir Barristan age in Danny's chapters where she finds out who he is when he saves her from merro of Bravos Danny could hardly keep up with his moves so what they did in the show with sir Barristan getting killed by those nobody's was Totally ridiculous

Foreshadowing!

That was season 4 after joffrey dies an after season 4 it all went to Hell especially season's 7 an 8 with Tyrion an varys co** joke's made me sick

​@@zadenwachter9918 ?????

Top of the mountain to the slums in one season.

It was an ill-deserved reputation earned off the backs of the episode directors, the actors, the crew and George RR Martin. Just look at what that hack Benioff did before GoT. Wrote the worst X-Men movie, and the worst Will Smith movie since... well, Bright, but you get my point. His only good script, that of The Kite Runner, was simply an adaptation of the work of one of the best contemporary authors. Weiss is even worse, he wrote one mediocre novel and used Benioff's coattails to ride along.

Don't worry... They'll be fine.... Rich and fine and able to get another show no problem... I'm not saying im happy about it, but it probably true

@@derekazyan9942 i hope you are referring to season 5 and beyond and not just the last season as GoT has been shitty since s5

@@debrickashaw9387 Yea season 5 and some storylines (Asha/Yara) in season 4 was where it started it's decline. I kept hoping that it was just that they didn't have enough time to make something good because they put out a season every year. However, 2 years to write half a season should have been more than enough time to make season 8 at least passable. It wasn't because they wanted to fuck off and do Star Wars or their stupid Confederate show.

Yeah but at least he knows where all the fast travel points are apparently

@@jillreyerma7592 ha! : )

That's fucking great🤣

Tyrion S1: Never forget who you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like an armor and it can never be used against you. Tyrion S8: Hehehe Varys no balls

Haha right. Varys was the man always new what's going on a was always 1 step ahead of everyone from season to 6. When I watch season I kept saying to my self this isn't varys. He would never make up a plain with out a back up and always new what's was going on . D&d should be ashamed . One of the best shows ever to be on TV and season 8 just a s*** show

Well they got the credit they wanted just not in the way they expected 🤣

I remember reading that they had finished writing season 8 three weeks after season 7 ended.

The irony being that they lost all credit for their work. Now no one thinks they were responsible for the success of GoT. If they had hired the extra writers, people may have been fooled into thinking they were geniuses still

With the prequel spinoff now you can hear that the dialogue is done again by proper writers. With GoT at the end of season 6 you noticed the dialogue nosediving to weird Marvel/DC comedy, which wasn't funny at all.

@@jumpinjohnnyruss that's horrible. I'm writing my own personal story, and it gets harder the closer you get to a finale, because you want as many plot points to go SOMEWHERE , even if they aren't ready to be concluded yet. You want to let the audience know "hey, I haven't forgotten about this. trust us, we got you" then you go back and rewrite dialogue to make some of it feel more natural, some of it more direct, some of it less direct, maybe skim over a few episodes to make sure you didn't forget anything that needs to be addressed later. also, you're supposed to keep a list of unfinished plot points, and unused chekhov's guns that you either purposefully or accidentally put into the story.

S2 and s3 too. Dany in qarth was too long for no reason. Bolton's chief cutting Jamie's hand even tho that didn't happen in books.

@@bait5257, why does it matter who cuts Jaime’s hand in S3? Also, while Dany’s Qarth storyline was very different from the book, she still spent the whole second book in Qarth

@@John-xr9ry Because a lannister always pays his debts. If bolton's chief cuts his hand for a silly reasons, they are gonna pay for it but For some reason they completely forget about it. Tywin forget about it and it's completely unbelievable because that hand costed Jamie so much. Made him a silly goose from the best knight alive

@@bait5257 right? It’s ridiculous that the golden child’s golden hand wasn’t made a bigger deal of. Like Jaime is supposed to be one of the greatest swordsmen of his time from one of the most powerful families and it’s just forgotten?

@@aimee-leighkelly2906 Jamie was the best knight alive in s1 (because berristen was old and sword of morning was dead)

same goes for Tyrion and pretty much every character we got to know with above average intelligence. D and D clearly showed being uncapable of writing smart characters. even the witty dialogue from earlier seasons was completly gone.

@@Kvh47 oh yeah i forgot about Tyrion. He was still very much included in the story but his presence became a joke and not the funny kind, more depressing if anything. His transformation from good to bad was the most stark (pun not intended). He was still only so prevalent because of his popularity with the viewing audience.

For me, the point in the series where Littlefinger was ruined was after the death of Lysa Arryn when Littlefinger was being grilled by the other lords of the Vale and he had apparently had no strategy to cover his tracks in place and was just like “Hurrr....durrr she killed herself” and the lords weren’t buying it. Only the intervention of Sansa, who unexpectedly backed up his story, saved him. Book!Littlefinger already had a scapegoat selected and successfully pinned Lysa’s death on the singer Marillion (If I remember correctly).

exactly, the characters can only be as intelligent as the writers. That's why every single character was less and less smart after they didn't have the books to adapt.

Littlefinger lost all his wit when he started playing the games they played it. It tries to become a lord while he despite them. He was meant to be a emperor not a wanna be king. This was the battle between Varys and him. Traditon (monarchy) vs rebellion. At first I was defending Tyrion lack of intelligence because he was in a culture in didn't understand (in Essos) and he was around people who were so dumb he made him lacking tool (MIssandei and Grey worn didn't know what was a joke). But, no it was just lazy writting proves by how they plan the batttle in WInterfell) (even if I think the show always had some major issues about strategies battles this was the pinnacle of anti strategic)

@An unimpressed Rooster Sure looked like failed attempt to pass it off as joke.

@An unimpressed Rooster it would be a funny remark if they ended up not killing him, but since they did it seems so petty

I was going to quote that very bit and say something along the same lines. Unbelievable! How do these people call themselves professionals?

The most telling part to me was them saying “person” and not “character”

I defended the shit out of those idiots for like two years longer than i should've. FOR TWO YEARS longer than I knew was warranted, but I felt like I owed them for bringing GOT to my attention which matured my tastes (or at least satisfied my more sophisticated pallet that I'd developed in the preceding 15 yrs). And for them to throw Ser Barry under the bus... Ser Grandfather? Old Artistan? Whitebeard himself? And his death wasn't even ... he deserved a more glorious death. I wanted thirty or forty corpses around him, not a dozen! Sure he's an old man, but he was finally cutting some cake! In the books, he takes down whole squads with naught but his scabbard and a wee dagger! He tore apart The Titan's Bastard like child's play with only his staff like he's fucking Gandalf the White. Just WHACK WHACK. This dude is said to be on par with Ser Arthur Dayne The Sword of the Muther Fucking Morning by GRRMM himself spoke thus. Now i'm angry.

I don't get how actors choose to play a character without reading the books.

@Alysson da Silva Because it's a job and they get paid money. _Alot_ of money.

@@danksmeme698 That's exactly why i don't Get It. Reading some books is such an easy task for a job that pays so much, and It would put you more in tune with your character's personality and motivarions, as well as his rellations with other characters

@@alyssondasilva4484 You say that as if everyone has to have the same mind as yours. Their job is to act and study the script, and that's it. Reading books is not for everyone. People have different tastes, especially when it comes to long and complex books such as ASOIAF. (That coming from someone who read the books as well). Plus, as much as it is enjoyable, reading takes time, just like any other hobby does, and it I bet many of them wouldn't have the proper time to really read it. Also many of the actors from the cast has said they'd rather wait to know how it's gonna be on the show, instead of sort of "spoiling themselves too much" or having conflict behaviors between character book and show book. Tywin Lannister for instance. Charles Dance was the best cast for him, he stole every scene he was in with his presence alone. Very strong character, for a very strong actor. Many people agree that Tywin show is better than Tywin in the books... Charles Dance didn't read the books at all, he choose not so it wouldn't influence on his performance, he wanted to work with what he had there, adaptation Tywin. And yet, he absolutely nailed it.

@@alyssondasilva4484 Why would he read the book, they arent even the same characters as in the show... Further, reading the books can actually hurt and bring a lot of confusion on the character since the show and book go in different directions and the books were ahead by a lot even spoiling some things for the actors. Actors grow into their roles and their acting may be influenced a lot by future events and how the characters need to act according to an other source that just brings a lot of headache. That you dont really need...

I remember it being revealed that a deleted scene showed Sansa going to Bran for help with the Littlefinger thing.

It was bran that finished littlefiger.

To be fair, littlefingers plotting and scheming kept him at the top in the capitol, but up north, their way is the old way. Or something.

Thats lore accurate tho

Wrong wrong wrong. Littlefinger was dumb AF.

@@zedfra8014 Ah neva hav'

@john smith because it was super easy, barely an inconvenience.

But muh Kween!

@Illidan Stormrage Yeah the character arc evolved backwards after D&D took the reigns

"We don't have time for this"

Ian McElhinney has been actively against D&D prior to him being killed. Now after the last season everyone has come out against D&D. Kitt had to go to rehab due to the shit the actors had to act out.

None of this is new footage. You're falling for poorly edited bullshit to placate the still ongoing virgin tantrum you all keep throwing.

@@davemccombs "virgin tantrum" is not a good defense for bad writing...

Dungeons and dragons ?

@@maul8384 Dumb and Dumber

What an outrageous response by David. Shows how shitty of a person and writer he is. "That just made us want to kill that character even more." What a fucking twat.

D & D gave no class. They still defend season 8. They are consumed by ego. They can’t see that they ruined GOT.

Crap like this is happening everywhere. You go to someone in a position of power or authority who you think has done something to deserve being there, and too often you find an overgrown child with a malicious sense of humor who has no interest in doing their job by listening to your painstakingly pointed out concerns. They just want you gone so they can go back to twiddling their thumbs for a living. Disgusting. And it's bloody everywhere. Usually these people justify their jobs by sucking up to the boss, saying the correct things at the correct times, and never doing anything to rock the boat. And by rock the boat, I mean really just thinking for themselves. Academia stinks of it. And so apparently does Hollywood.

@@Vesnicie 100% right on the academia part, I'm at the #1 public university in the US and it is full of ineffectual yes men, the teachers, the TA's, the administration.....

@@denverbrown8904 And now, I'm more happy I went to a public University. I mean, don't get me wrong. Going to a private college or top ranked school like Yale, Harvard or MIT was never going to be an option, and to be honest, I never actually wanted to go there. But, hearing about all this kind of stuff does make me appreciate that I went to a smaller school. And it's not just from you, I've heard this a lot before now.

@EuropeDP Exactly, I think emilia clarke, kit and stark sister's actors defend these idiots because basically they made their career because of those dumb nuts. But hey who knows, they may have some resentment inside- especially kit and emilia-the way their characters have been treated.

@EuropeDP really? He said the last season was disappointing, I mean everything after S5 was disappointing in general.

@EuropeDP Personally I disliked season 5 a lot, but I agree with you.

@@kalyanvadlamani7607 I think Clarke didn't like the last season . She didn't even know her character destroyed the whole city till she watched the premier with all her fans, which made her look like a fool. She thought her character only destroyed the red keep to kill Cersei but the writers never told her. How can you keep something so important from the actor playing the character. Also in one of the videos I watched she couldn't explain why Daenerys went mad and used a chocolate analogy and a lot of weird things, which shows she didn't even know why she destroyed the red keep. In the same video she stated 'it came out of fucking nowhere' You can find all this I said if you search up Clarke HBO unreleased video. HBO tried to hide her real reaction.

@EuropeDP He didn't, they basically made him the poster boy bc Jon Snow was so loved by people, but he in many occasions said he hadn't even watched the last season, not to mention that he had to go to rehab right after the final season aired. He recently even did a zoom chat with a fan where he said he'll take whatever slander fans had for the GoT last season and he did, he basically told he'd be our virtual punchbag. He defended the show only until his contract made him, him and Emilia both actually. And idk if yall know but there was this thing that the writers ruined Jon Snow bc they had an issue with Kit. (They were jealous of his popularity so they continuously included the height and penis jokes in the later seasons)

Vince Gilligan is an incredible professional who created an even more incredible story in breaking bad, just imagine if he had been the one to write GoT

Not to mention that Vince Gilligan took help from the other writers when there were episodes that felt complex to iron out and streamline the series that we know as breaking bad. Also, even then Gilligan gave credit to those writers for their help in many interviews

Don't even compare Vince Gilligan with those clowns.

GOT wouldnt be as glamorous if Vince directed it, but man it wouldve been brilliant

Their inexperience and ego truly shoes in comparison to other directors.

The writers were all novelists before writing The Wire. That's why it's so good.

It is surreal, yeah. There was a thunderclap of hatred then total radio silence. One of the most popular shows of this century managed to kill its entire popularity in basically two episodes. Because even though people started raising serious complaints as early as Season 5, it was the last two episodes of Season 8 that finally killed it for the mainstream. Up to then all the mainstream outlets were gushing over the series.

@@Yodah97 nah bro not for the mainstream for all of us there were some folks coming together some of em being from the liberal mainstream defending the show coz the last season was fitting some narratives of strong women and some hardcorefans who couldnt let go and wouldve defended that show to the death but all in all most people agreed that this last season was pure bullshit and main tone was about the show being rushed

@@Yodah97 jesus im starting to remember some parts again i mean that dothraki charge? bruh even casual mainstream plebs like me cringed at that stupidity ... or the crypt? ffs

I don’t blame them. The journey and foreshadowing is useless with no substance knowing this is where it actually ends up. I watched the entire series, and seasons 1-6 is the watch value id recommend. Everything after is absolute crap.

because it completely ruined the entire show as a whole, what’s the point of even discussing it or rewatching it when you know the story doesn’t lead anywhere?

I've not even seen the show and I agree with you.

@@shan4680 if you want to watch it, watch up to S7 at the most, but most certainly don’t watch S8. I would recommend stopping at the end of S6. It doesn’t leave as much of a cliffhanger that way, and the writing still isn’t too bad.

@Xavier Carroll That's what I did recently. Martin left the show during or after season 4. There were signs of decline there, but it all became laughably awful after that.

@@ElizabethPayet it doesn't leave us on a cliffhanger ?? Spoiler alert We literally found out about jon's true family/parentage at the end of s6 and he was crowned King in the north

@@monjikhechini9724 That's not what a cliffhanger is.

That's very well put.

It’s a tragedy, isn’t it?

Fucking shame to be honest.

More than privilege it's arrogance born from overcompansation knowing you're not talented enough to be there.

Well said

@Joshua Beattie There were signs much earlier. Whenever they'd go off on their own and invent, or change things, you saw what they were and how out of their depth they were. Dany in Qarth in season 2 (a horribly done plotline) was almost all made up. And there was a change in season 3 that really showed how careless they were - they changed the identity of the person who took Jaime's hand. Not just identity but allegiance. They made it, of all people, Bolton's chief lieutenant. This would have completely changed the plot, which that season and beyond hinged on a Bolton-Lannister alliance. They did it anyway and just left a huge plot hole of the Lannisters - the family that always pays its debts, the most vindictive, revenge-mad group in the entire story - simply never caring at all about Jaime's hand being cut off. They never say a single word about it in the show after it happens. In the books the fate of the people responsible for cutting Jaime's hand off is horrific.

@@georgial6398 very good points. The dorne plot, jaime and bronn's buddy cop shit, basically jaime's story after his hand was cut off. Barristan Selmy, varys and Tyrion travelling to Dany not done properly. They cut off young griff, lady stone heart, the northern conspiracy, they cut off a lot of things. The moment they cut off young griff and lady stone heart, it signalled to me that they wanted to streamline the show (and so season 7 and 8 were no surprises) and wanted to make up their own shit to end GOT faster.

One of the best swordsman in westeros, second only to sir arthur dayne, died in an alley.

@@xfurygamingx3027 yeah and to a bunch of spoiled rich kids with knives who had never fought before. Not to mention the unsullied, some of the most well trained fighters in Essos, fighting alongside Selmy as well. That scene is what convinced me that the show was starting to go down hill.

@@GC-ps9mn Stannis the Mannis Baratheon. That one is the worst crime they did to the franchise. There aint no arguing this. Stannis is probably the most important plotline the book had of the one that were just eradicated. All of that because they were too impatient to wait for George's approval. I laugh my ass off when it turns out that Stannis the Mannis Baratheon gets to claim the Iron Throne. Mr. Dillane put down such a good acting. By far my favorite Character in both the books and the series.

I'm kinda glad it got ruined because now people can actually read the books and experience the real story.

@@AimForMyHead81 but that would need the books to be finished ...which I am not sure is going to happen

@@reviewmyworld4466 Well, look at it this way. There are 5 complete books and between them, over 5000 pages. Reading them at an even pace will take a while. By the time you're done, it's likely that Winds of Winter will be out or on the verge of release. Not to mention the companion books such as Fire and Blood, A knight of the seven kingdoms, a world of ice and fire etc. Also, once you start reading them, you'll realise just how many things the TV series completely skimped over or changed; entire arcs, characters and plotlines. Reading them is like rediscovering Martin's world for the very first time again, only this time it's the true vision of that world. So I highly recommend them.

@@AimForMyHead81 thanks , i bought the books sometime back but I was wary of starting on a journey which might not have a clear ending , I recently started fire and blood though ..to keep in pace with House of Dragon

@@reviewmyworld4466 lol

Plot armor for the starks. Plot armor against the f*ckn white walkers. And then the most basic "death scenes" for every major character. Dumb and dumber

Yes this. D&D 100% played favourites with characters. Tyrion, Jon, Arya and Sansa specifically. I'm still mad they never even bothered at least giving Rickon the same attention.

They did Baratheons dirty

More like confounded expectations.

LOOOOOOOOOL

Well played.

Lets see Paul Allen's opinion on the show

You could see cracks in the armor of the show as the seasons mounted and the book material were running out. Hell, it's 2021 and GRRM still hasn't put out a sequel to the book "A Dance With Dragons," which came out in 2011.

​@@Warmaker01 They still had two books after season 4 and yet season 5 sucked, because their egos got so big that they thought the changes they made were better, when they were actually worse. Even the highlights of season 5 are nothing in comparison to the books. For example Jon's death. D&D after the red wedding just wanted to get the show over with. They got their awards and acclaim and writing Game of Thrones became just a chore to them

I agree, your comment is impressive, very nice.

@Wrong Profile ):

They definitely deserved that specially with them laughing about killing Ser barristan like that

FACTS. Karma is a bitch

They didn't want to share the credit and now they are taking the whole blame instead😂

Lol Disney cancelled their contract with them after season 8 disaster(and probably from terrible idea about their star wars project). Netflix paid a contract with them for $200M but none of good Netflix shows mentioned their name.

​@@cosmicheathen1955 much like Walder Frey

and netflix cast them anyway. i will never watch something from them again

It also kind of makes me think that D&D didn't read the books..

What do expect from a guy who only got where he is because of nepotism. He has no real writing talent of his own.

The dumbest part is them just telling actors to shut up and read the words. Many of the greatest movies and scenes were group efforts, and actors often have a better feel for the characters. My favorite example is Han Solo, as he is about to be frozen in Carbonite. Originally, Lucas had Leia say "I love you," and Han say "I love you too." Harrison Ford pushed and said that Han wouldn't say that. And so we got the iconic, memorable response of "I know."

@@Tmanowns My personal favourite is the tears in the rain monologue in Blade Runner. It was Rutger Hauer's idea.

Just be glad those bums are out of hollywood for life because of this shitshow.

My only consolations are he didn't die and they didn't have the chance to make him do something stupid and out of character or be "outsmarted" to make the disastrous plot "work" if he had stayed.

Netflix: Hold my beer.

3 words: Three Body Problem

@@jogiff I'm so distraught these fuckers are doing the Three Body Problem. Seriously fucking shit.

Netflix are paying them millions when Disney fired them after GOT. Their last idea was basically white supremacy fan fictions

@@filipstellberg8280 They've been with Netflix for like a year now and all they've been allowed to do is co-write a comedy act. They're done.

barristan is such a fucking badass from the pt he dies in the show in the book. it was stupid they killed him. the queen's hand (barristan) is my favorite chapter of dance of dragons

Yes they actually were referring to Barristan in that quote. They said that quote just before the episode premiered.

Cannnnnn relaatteeeeeee

And how does the lady you live with feel about it?

Ya D&D are full of themselves. They're great at adapting material that already exists. Once they ran out of book material, it was all downhill from there.

Oh god that would’ve been terrible if it happened, and so out of character 💀 in the books Davos repeatedly said how he wanted to go back to his wife, how he felt he wasn’t treating his wife well enough because he constantly ran off to do things for Stannis, how after the war he’d retire with his wife-in fact, Davos is one of the rare characters in the books actually loyal to his wife.

Omgggg what a mess this would’ve been!!!!

So glad that didn’t happen, and I’m so glad that he knew his character enough to know that it’s very… well, out of character.

@@amuletace Plus, he loved Shireen like a daughter. He would never be with the woman who killed her.

@@eliseesbjornsson4981 He said Missandei not Mellisandre

Same, I completely forgot about that as well

Me too

Same lol

Yeah his death doesn't even make sense. Master of spies openly committed treason, like wtf

He looked like he wanted to cry. Such a waste of an amazing character and great actor.

Also in a video where the actors for Bran, Davos and Varys were all there, and they were asked "Were you happy with your character's ending?" and the former two both look at Conleth immediately and get really nervous awkward smiles, as if they expect him to explode with a rant or something (when HBO wants them on their best behaviour). Conleth looked pissed off in that interview too. To me that shows that Conleth had talked to other actors at length about how everything had gone to shit.

@@wafflingmean4477 link?

@@sapphirevaltiel 10 out of 10

@@sapphirevaltiel 😑🤣

Holy shit I forgot that

That is worst things of all, GRRM trusted them, that they will do true adaptation and they fu** him over, that's why he stoped working on show. And most funny thing is that HBO could not change showrunners.

@@ufiCz It was planned that they would switch show runners around the end of the season 6 i believe. But D&D insisted on finishing the show themselves and told HBO they could do it. But knowing what happened, they probably did that so they would be recognized as the only writers for what should’ve been “the greatest show of all time”

the audience need to pay more attention, at the end of the day we hold the power

@@ufiCz He mostly stopped working on the show because the show caught up with the books and he needed all the time in the world to finish the books. Turns out that was kind of a lie and he was just tired of the ASOIAF universe.

He looks like he’s trying to fart

That’s just his gormless look

He should have had an "I'm with stupid" shirt.

Very awkward.

@reds head D&D stand for Dan & Dave? I genuinely thought it was a fanmade title meaning Dick & Dumb.

They’ve been relentlessly praised for copying a book into a script

@@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 And even with that they did bad job.

@@ufiCz Not with the first 4 seasons.

@@markparkinson6947 Honestly, I’m a believer that the first 4 seasons are better than the books themselves.

@@RestitutorEuropa Shows how good David and Dan are when they actually understand and put in the effort to write and adapt a story properly, as opposed to rushing a story you have no interest in telling so you can move on to the next one.

Let's pray these morons never get work again.

@@AimForMyHead81 they def won't. Disney and netflix both gave dumb and dumber the boot.

Ironic, since joffrey attempts to defame his character

@@Chaotic-Star-3-6-9 I think their contract with Netflix is still on

@Victor Tronin I hate to tell you this but there is absolutely no chance in hell of Disney ever going bankrupt. Even if they monumentally mess up every movie they make from this point onwards they will probably at least break even in profits with the production cost, they make so much money off well... EVERYTHING else. They got: toys, books, comics, clothes, songs, amusement parks, and of course the money they still make off movies that they already made. Not to mention whatever else I simply can't think of that they would also be using to make money. Point is, they could mess up as much as they want but the odds of them going bankrupt is practically nonexistant.

In the books the vibe doesn't fade away, even as of now so thats f-ing good

Varys in the books is playing a looong game of Chess. Its seriously amazing his far he thought into the future. Destabilizing the kingdom while creating a force and ruler to take over.

That disappointed me more than anything.

Yeah, their relationship was very interesting. Two of the smartest characters in the show. But of course, when D&D didn’t have the books as a source anymore they couldn’t write good dialogue.

Yeah, I really hope it's kinda like Death Note about the battle of the brains between L and Light Yagami. Season 7 and 8 are just like Near come out of nowhere and defeat Light so easily.

I feel like people underestimate how much actors understand the story they're in. Sure some actors just say the lines but truly great actors understand the plot and why the character is acting that way.

And this is also a bullshit attitude there have been countless movies that have been improved by the actors themselves being involved in the building of the characters or in the script. So yeaaah their shitty attitude shows even more in the final product which is season 8

In the Friends series, the writers were letting the actors themselves come up with lines or jokes, or if the actors or film crew, didn't find a "specific" joke funny, they would change the whole thing mid through filming. And they were listening to the actors criticism, and look how successfull that show is, even many years after. Two completely different genres, but cooperation between writers and actors, is the key to a great show.

@@astridleed8381 If you look at the two different legacies that both shows bring, its even more apparent. Friends ended way back in 2004, yet they always make it a huge fucking deal whenever it moves onto a different streaming service. One of the main selling points of HBO Max was that it was now the exclusive streaming service to watch every season of Friends. Game of Thrones ended a little less than two years ago, yet no one even fucking talks about that show

@Devin Carter HBO is not blameless here. They should have kicked D&D out and hired someone else to take the show forward as soon as it became apparent that D&D did neither care about the show or understand the source material. HBO should have given the show to someone who would have listened to GRRM and the actors who knew their characters.

I'm kinda glad it got ruined because now people can actually read the books and experience the real story.

@@AimForMyHead81 unfortunately the books aren't finished; and the worst part of the show is the part the books haven't covered yet. So even people reading it have to accept that terrible end to the show...probably forever since I am starting to seriously doubt GRRM will finish another book

@@feralscooter He probably finished it but says he hasn't to increase the demand bringing in massive profits in favor the more desperate show runners. It'd be a strategic move from GRRM. Most Book readers will not watch the shows if they're not based on the source material cause season 8 of GOT ruined alot of fans.

@@feralscooter i guess it all depends on the person reading, i read lord of the rings and i couldn't care less for the movies and stuff and how bad they handled it same for percy Jackson, harry potter etc. Also i personally care less about the ending and more about world building and characters so i guess it was much easier for me to still have it as my fav tv/book series

@@Chimera_166 it’s been 10 years and there is quite literally 0 evidence of GRRM or anyone in his camp thinking of his series this way. The answer is simple, GRRM is a creator first, a writer second. He gets distracted with other, newer projects easily and has thus not made as much progress on WoW. The delays with the book started mainly due to the GoT show taking up his time

My man there is a hole in me that I still carry each day at this loss. It was not just a show but a truly unique instant cult fandom and mainstream love for a world, it's story, the actors and it pains me that we might never have something like this again.

@@bingtunder683 I thought this show had the potential to be better than breaking bad but the ending failed it. Watch BB if you haven’t already

@@bingtunder683It won't be another GOT, not even the prequels, which are going to be full of sjw agenda.

@@Emy-fv5ny Sjw agenda- lol,it's adapted based on grrm's books.

@@kalyanvadlamani7607 Not all the season were adapted from the books. C'mon everybody knows this...Well almost everybody apparently.

Yeah. If they were so tired they should have gave the job to someone that wanted it.

Same with HBO. Obviously they wanted their most profitable show of all time to stay on the air for as long as possible. The only reason it was rushed to finish is because D&D were selfish and greedy and wanted to hurry up and start their Star Wars project which is ironic because they were fired from that and I bet you any money they wish they never ended Game of Thrones. You don’t know what you got til you f**k it up and it’s gone and now they have ruined their reputations. They could have done Game of Thrones the justice it deserved and went on a few more seasons and ended it properly but no, they had to ruin my favorite show.

@@deepdirt ​ I think they were "fired" because of how they handle the finale of GoT since Starwars wanted/needed people that knew how to complete a story. After the Last Jedi and the Rise of Skywalker they needed people that knew how to do that, and they sadly failed in that aspect.

sure if GRRM got off his fat ass and wrote the books. The idiot wanted more money and fame and sold the rights before finishing them. Fuck that fat fuck

​@@daniellee2343 You are disgusting, and no, D&D were acting as if they were the one that wrote the story undermining George RR Martin opinions and ideas, so he left the show when they stop listening to him and his opinion since they knew better (and no, they didn't). George would have still help finished the series if they didn't want to rush the ending and cut most of the story line.

Same. I didn't even finish season 5 as you can clearly see it losing the plot it was an awful viewing experience.. Such a tragedy as i really loved season 3

To be honest, Ned Stark is still one of the favourites in the show.

Best season ever?

@@ImaginaryChannel Yes, it's the best... in a brutal, horribly uncomfortable sort of way

@@nicholaskenneth113 he wasn’t asking if season 8 was the best lol he was asking if the person was referring to Emilia’s awkward “best season ever” reply lol

lol remember when they asked Kit Harrington if he could sum it up in one word. He replies "Disappointing" then says "Epic" and then laughs and says one of those two.

@@lastword8783 without a second of hesitation. Lord, he looked so defeated.

Read the books, my friend. Those are and always will be worth your time.

what's crazy is that he argued with them for seasons on end and publicly voiced his opinion and interpretation regardless, and then suddenly he started doing clean up for them and praising them and season 8. It was bizarre, almost like HBO and D&D had held his family hostage or something

@@daphne6211 He has critiziced them after season 8 but hes not as on the nose about it, makes sense tho, its pointless now and hes working with HBO for his Egg and Dunk series so he probably doesn't want too many bad blood going. (Luckily he has much more control over this new one)

@@alejandrovallejo6763 Not GRRM, we were talking about Nikolaj Coster-Waldau

@@daphne6211 Part of the actor job is promoting the work on featured appearances on other talk shows and scheduled interviews. The time he was praising them was probably under contract as the "promotional period/appearances". These clips are probably from interviews that aren't.

You said it girl!!

my thoughts exactly, and these actors chose these roles because they liked the writing and then suddenly it changes and they're stuck with it

I mean, killing him at that point of the story... because all that praying to the Stranger...

Killing Barristan when they did would be like having Catelyn kill Jaime at the end of season 2

How do you feel about them ignoring Tysha (season 4) and Lady Stoneheart (season 5-6) ?

Yeah. I started questioning the series early in season 4, and I fell out of love with it entirely by season 6.

@@jackthenarrator4735 I can remember the first four seasons so vividly. Granted, I didn't start watching GoT until the end of 2017, but I was reminded of when my parents took my sister and I to see Return of the King when I was 9. I can still tell you vivid details from that day, like how I cringed when I thought Pippin's singing would be bad, or how terrified I was watching Frodo get chased by Shelob. I got goosebumps when Aragorn found Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin and knelt before them. The first four seasons of GoT were like that for me. The shock when Joffrey ordered Ned's execution to Oberyn's gruesome death. Seasons 5-8 don't do that for me. I can still remember the brilliance of first four seasons, but I can't remember anything notable happening in seasons 5-6. I have to go on Wikipedia to remind myself what happened. It was that bad for me.

Season 6 was the peak after a mediocre season 5 and befor the downfall of 7 and 8

@@knizzler1624 Season 6 might be the peak of the much lesser half of GoT anyway (5-8). It’s still nowhere near as good as seasons 1-4.

​@@AH-bm5xs I completely disagree with that

That is an understatement to say they are just subverting expectation. George RR Martin subverts tropes. D&D subverts good writing.