Right! George R.R. Martin created the most powerful yet memorable female characters in his series! Shit, they were great protagonists and antagonists with complex backgrounds, along with goals and ambitions!

@@isaiahcolesanti275 yeah and they were never really just a gender which is a common pitfall for a lot of female characters, these ones had great traits, backstory, emotions and motivations. Amazing writing

Bram Steenhoek Agreed and that is how you write female characters. I have yet to finish A Game Of Thrones. There’s so many details to the world then I could ever imagine. Hell there’s more creatures and magic for God sakes. I barely see any magic, but in the books there’s more of it. I love it!

@@isaiahcolesanti275 i avtually kinda like that in the show magic is so rare In later seasons however it is used over and over again

I would add Ollena Asha and arguably Arianne to the list. Cersei though is pretty dumb in the books and definitely can't handle situation in king's landing alone. If it was only major female character I could see undermining women abilities

ShadowProject01 you can even hear how upset the person who asked that question became one he answered that. She expected him to try and weasel out of the question so she could later say the people who asked the question were right that GoT is racist. Instead he basically points out that she didn’t read the books, and doesn’t understand TV, because if she had done either (instead of just looking for imaginary racism) she wouldn’t have asked such a dumb question.

I quite astonished that it took the audience up until this point to react. They could have seeing this coming a minute ago... are those in the audience students? its the level so low nowadays!?

@@OvidiuHretcanu What? They laughed because of his wording. How could they have predicted the exact phrasing of his sentences?

They would know the context of the subject. It's not plantation slavery, its ancient slavery. For such a serious allegation to make on a body of work, due diligence on the part of the accuser, truly will serve the accuser. But everyone is cynical these days it seems, perhaps even me in saying that.

@@cipher88101 I'm not defending the critics in anyway, and Martin has an insight to how the show was made to be able to justify and explain why the cast looked the way it did, but just saying it was filmed in Morocco isnt enough to just assume the viewers should watch the show and understand that fact. In fact some movies and shows are filmed precisely in certain countries and areas because they want their movies populations to look a certain way.. Imagine shooting the last samurai in Scotland..it wouldn't work, or at least would add unnecessary difficulties to filming the battle scenes. I'm not trying to suggest the makers should be made accountable for this or they should have gone to some kinda extra effort im just pointing out a fact that people overlook when criticising the viewers.

Agree. He’s incredible.

If he ever finishes the series I'll go back to admiring him

@@squanchy666 Well he finished it no?

@@robbybobbijoe no. He’s still got two whole 1,000 each page books to finish…

JRR Tolkien wrote an even larger world

you are exactly right

Yet people question it. People I play D&D with think LOTR is problematic because the “dark-skinned ones” are evil. Why can’t these people stop injecting racism and sexism into everything?

true but mostly due to circumstance. A medieval European wouldnt move around much unless extremely privileged. So the only nonracists would be the 0.1%, everyone else was brutally poor with men and women having it equally bad in different ways.

1. The middle ages were actually much more diverse than it has historically been presented in media 2. George's books and world are much more diverse and complex than the tv show, but he's the one that gets shit for the tv adaptation

@@akaraniq Maybe but they literally used women as bargaining chips so it most definitely was sexist. And the plague was literally blamed on the Jews so it also was racist. My point stands.

YES. And?

This is the best summary

Same as you would respond to the question on why terrible people in the real world do terrible things. It’s all just ideological bs. A racist will be racist, doesn’t matter if you accuse thousands or millions non-racist people of being racist. But it doesn’t matter to the people using the narrative to make a grab for power...

I'm just getting tired of this woke bs, where everything in art is interrogated for signs of racism and sexism with no empirical factual evidence to back it up.

the critique about Dany is hilarious because she's NOT the saviour at all and people got mad without knowing the ending

@@JEM-wj2oc white walkers=The leaders, the ice ones. Wights=The dead ones, kids, adults, soldiers, farmers etc anyone but the Ice ones. Hope you understand now

I think whitewalkers are norsemen' viking

We actually aren’t sure if they are solid and followed by mist, or are the cold mist, our best source is in the prologue, but even that description isn’t certain and Sam isn’t sure if they bring the cold or are the cold.

danyelah Tabaat that is an interesting idea, one of the maesters says that they were actually just a first men tribe that migrated southward and were demonized by the starks to make the north seem more stoic.

Alex Scrivens it’s also a note that they aren’t even called white walkers or wights (not sure about this one) in the books instead they are referred to as the “others” and are not implied to be corpse like or very humanoid.

Ok groomer.

Welcome to American media. Where the media fishes for a headline or an out of context quote

this kind of comment feels incredibly weird. the questions were asked by a professor who is obviously interested in the books, the show, and the answers to her questions about pretty serious topics. and grrm clearly wanted to answer them properly. he acknowledged how many issues her questions brought up, and instead of undermining and dumbing her words down into an "agenda" and then praising irrelevant things about his work for no reason (like your comment), he answered every part of her question to the best of his ability and wasn't afraid to admit concessions and mistakes.

@@azmilog ok groomer

@@hands-ongaming7180 This feel more like white hysteria to me

I think he was trying to contain his frustration lol. It’s hard to not take it personally when someone critiques your work.

@@thekurt1 Criticism would be one thing... constantly trotting out the same tired accusations that completely miss the point of said work is another.

@@thekurt1this isn’t critictism. It’s immature childish games… there was no elevation of any kind. I heard a baby saying “waaah, people say show bad!! Waaah. Was show bad? George are you bad? Waaah”

@Not Alfie She announced, after finishing the Harry Potter series, that "Dumbledore is gay" to appease part of her fans which were not satisfied with the lack of homosexuality in it. She also has remade Hermione black for the Harry Potter and the Cursed Child play even though in the books she was depicted in illustrations and written form as white to retroactively make her cast more diverse.

@@DarkRockslizer beside this she added some random jewish guy

@@DarkRockslizer the more reasons not to read her garbage

She also turned Nagini into sort of person, so the professor Longbottom is now a murderer

I know it's a joke but dragons in ASOIAF/GOT are neither male or female

It's kind of hilarious and also rather sad that it's academics who didn't read the books and don't know anything about the topic questioning him.

I laughed out loud when they said that Tyrion is the voice of reason xD

They don't have to read the books. Reading the book does not give you any superior ground if the question being asked, is centered around the TV show. Atleast that's what it looks like.

@@danielfake8269 the author of the book who also helped out with the first five seasons as a supervisor.

I recall much more vulgar rape scenes from the book that were left out in TV show

even Walder Frey?

You may like the film The Mission (assuming you haven't seen it) where Robert Di Nero's character who is a slaver and murderer finds redemption. I find it the most powerful redemption scene in any movie.

…Euron Greyjoy.

Rorge

Ramsay Bolton, Euron Greyjoy, Gregor Clegane. He does have some characters that are incapable of redemption.

Yeah you can see as she's asking this long-winded purity check, all over his face is "this shit again? fuckin' serious"

Exactly! If I got an interview with George rr Martin I'd ask about his lore and inspirations. For example I'd want to ask him more about the doom of Valyria, how long do dragons live for? Who's your personal favorite character you've written? Character inspirations for Jon snow. Jaime Lannister, and stannis. Like what inspired those characters personalities and how they are written. Long story short. I'd ask the author about his books.

It was a thoughtful question regarding parallels to modern politics. If you haven't noticed, ASoIaF are political books. He was clearly happy to explain it or else he wouldn't have gone so in-depth without extra prompting. Writers love it when you ask nuanced questions about their world.

@@AmbrosiusIII You’re clearly seeing what you want to see. Just because he answered the question and didn’t show himself to be emotionally effected doesn’t mean that he wasn’t annoyed by it. His body language explained it all. He clearly was uncomfortable as she asked her long-winded question. Just because a story has politics interwoven in it doesn’t mean it’s a political book. That’s just the driving force for conflict. The SOIAF books are actually about the fallacy of heroes in respect to the human condition or nature. Just because the story has politics doesn’t mean that those politics should or do reflect the current day politics. This is a fantasy story in a fantasy world with fictional characters in time period that is reminiscent to medieval times in Western Europe. That question did not apply to the reality of the story at large.

@@chriswilliams7358 im glad your able to read minds homie, let a man speak for himself he dosent need you in the comments telling people that your actually a psychic and his body language tells you more about what hes thinking better than himself

Aaron is Loud and Wireless actually hes very defensive of his work lol he just defended it right now whilst not even trying, just by saying the truth. I think you meant his tone isn’t defensive.

Its perfect. The way he responds. And those questions are so ridiculous. I dont know anyone whos ever honestly had these complaints.

@@Gruesome_j Yea his tone

Yep, reminded me of Tyrion.

Yup, I don't understand why people mock the question itself, it gave us a brilliant answer in the end. And it was asked in good faith too, as far as I can tell. Similar to the question about black GoT characters that he received at WSJ+.

This is where we are unfortunately.

....played one of the recent call of duty games? They took an actual historic event of an all men squad and turned them all female.

That also has characters like Dany, Sansa, Brienne, and Arya? Did they even read the books?

And his story is way more progressive than the actual medieval world ever was. There’s women who are warriors and sole rulers of nations, both of which were extremely rare in our own world. Plus the ones who aren’t warriors or queens are extremely powerful politically. Asoiaf is a pretty feminist series, yet these idiots still find nonsensical reasons to criticize the man. There’s just no winning for George sometimes.

@@brendan9868 then theres no reason to pander to it.

@OnThisSideoftheSky No complaints of sexual exploitation about the thousands of topless Dothraki. A poor Unsullied guy's nipple was sliced off but hey he's a dude so we don't care

OnThisSideoftheSky to be fair he was an asshole. Still doesn’t mean that he deserved what happened to him. He has one of the best arcs on the show and books

That's not true? There was a ton of controversy about that arc as it was seen as using gratuitous torture without good reason in order to be shocking.

@OnThisSideoftheSky He's a white man that betrayed his foster family, murdered the old maester and killed 2 children and passed them of as Bran and Rickon. The man deserved it. But hey, you have to be a whinging little asshole apparently.

Malena Sander his arc on the show was abruptly destroyed. He came back to quickly die in a kamikaze fashion

Yeah, the show dropped a few balls here that the books didn't

Not really

Because the books don't have the issue of practicalities that the tv does. You don't need to shoot a book in one or the other part of the country and you don't need to pay people to play characters in your book.

@Drew Taylor whether they know or do not know, they can still question him on those things. That's like saying your lecturer shouldn't ask you a question on a subject the lecturer already know about. They want his point of view on the matter not what they already know.

If i was in his position just to troll those retards i would only say over and over again "Read the book, R e a d. T h e. B o o k

I mean frankly im glad they did. I love to hear his thoughts and how he writes his characters

Don't give these idiots credit. They're too dumb to distinguish between contemporary slavery and the fact that GOT mirrors the slavery of ancient history instead.

Ikr? This is insanity. Book burning crowd is forming. ....

Because a lot of people are fucking stupid.

Zaltus I think the main issue is that we’ve been saying Dothraki the wrong way

@@themysteriousgamers9616 ikr 8 years later we find out

The anti free speech left must have its ideology infect everything

Good to see you here man. Keep on producing what you do.

Look at how they phrase things. They clearly didn’t read the books, didn’t even know the exact relation of George in the TV series (how much he is involved, etc.); they were unprepared. Actually no, they were prepared, they prepared themselves enough from Twitter.

"yeah.... Uh hu.... Yeah yeah... Yeah... Yeah.. right.... Uh hu..... Yeah.... Yes"

Well actually he's intelligent so he didn't get offended at the question he just answered respectfully and intelligently because he recognized this question wasn't an accusation it was an attempt to get an author's response to the accusations in question. You are sensitive

“I reject your hypothesis”. - Quentin Tarantino

its funny cuz he writes them realisticaly and as actual people and shows their struggles in the world and aparently its ''sexist'' for women to struggle the stuff thats happening to the women and men is realistic to medieval times and eaven today in a lot places ,removing it wouldbe acting like issues like that dont exist ,they just dont wanna see the truth or act like it doesent happen

Mainly women? Joffrey, Ramsay, Euron, night king, little finger, roose, tywin, Frey, viserys etc.. No women orchestrated the red wedding. no women gave jon snow a hard time at castle black. no women are whitewalkers. That being said, I love asoiaf. We see women as more protagonists because grrm wrote them as pov but men are the more antagonist.

@@TJ-fe7rrCersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei Cersei

And after that the interviewer still tries to push the issue in the face of common sense...asking if he has the ability to change this and that as a producer and consultant on the show. It's like she's saying: "OK, the book wasn't written with modern racism in mind and isn't therefore racist, and as far as television is concerned you can't accurately depict that economically on location...but some people freaked out about it, so....can we blame you, and if not, who do we blame?" She doesn't even hear the answer given. She digs for some deeper meaning. She just wants to find the racist, sexist pig. And there is nothing to find.

How dare they!

@@adamchristensen2648 He's a white male. So he MUST be a racist, sexist pig, right? I swear some people are training themselves to look for problems that sometimes just don't even exist.

Perfect response ;)

@Adam Christensen exactly, these kinds of people are pretty much looking for reasons to be offended.

"The fact is, D&D, couldn't have done it without _me_ ."

You're

@Trevor Oman i just cant understand how are people making this spelling mistake mate

@Trevor Oman you're weird, why are ya so butthurt?

@Trevor Oman Why is fixing someones grammar a bad thing? Why is it seen as an attempt to seem smart? Why is bastardizing a language a good thing? If someone talked to me nonsensically in my native tongue I would be confused. Now imagine if someone who is learning a language learned the bastardized version first before understanding why those misunderstandings exist in the first place from native english speakers. If anything, the fact that english is one of the most spoken language in the world should mean that proper grammar is paramount when we're communicating with people all over the world. Masa kita memperbolehkan kebodohan? Bego amet

yeah, especially since you can not argue against sexism and call out for being wrong, if you pretend it does not exists! he has so many examples of strong female characters and the bitter consequences of sexism. Cercei for example was the child of tywins who agrees most with his values and shares his interest in legacy and all, but since she is female, he never even considered her, leading to her not having gotten the education and support needed to set her up propperly and leaving her bitter as hell. He lost everything he worked for to his biases. Brienne gets rediculed all the time but she is the closest we will ever get, to a true knight, that actually holds up the virtues! Also she can stand up to most male opponents which only makes those more bitter towords her . . . Thats not promoting sexism, nor is Meera and Osha acting as the boys protectors . . . Yeah the femal characters are not perfect, like cat and cercei and yes also dany garner a lot of hate, but they are in no way portrayed as worse then the male characters who are just as flawed and at times vile.

Yeah, for real. I see a lot of people praise the kinds of female characters you described, but i honestly always found them boring. Martin's characters in general are incredible. People often talk about characters that "feel like real people", but for me, SoIaF characters were the first time i really felt like that. Most characters don't have nearly enough depth nor are put in situations where they have to make interesting choices. Now, i come from a mostly Japanese background when it comes to fiction. And for me, characters in anime were always very boring. They don't stray from their archetypes much and often act very 2-dimensional. Everytime i see people talk about the "amazing writing in anime" i fucking chuckle. Discovering GRRM and his incredible book series last month was a very welcome breath of fresh air

Surprised? Congrats on waking up from your 20 year coma.

Yeah. It's why he sucks compared to Tolkien.

Very funny comment 👍🏼🤣

lots of moroccans are lightskin tho

@@algonzalez6853 yeah we have white and blond people too

@@SaidBKD95 now that i think about it, spain has 2 cities in morocco, george was kind of lying. They could've casted all races

@@algonzalez6853 And then you look at the spanish people living there and you see they look strangely similar to the Moroccans.

He actually evades,and tries to answer correct way,that they want to hear,reminding that book is different frim tv etc

Like his books ey

He physically cant

sneakin I feel kinda bad for laughing but that was hilarious

@@sneakin3274 Bruh 🤣

Don't forget the heart beat

His mic is so far up his beard lol

@@fawn8831 his mic on on his right lapel and rubbing against his shirt.

@@JamboLinnman Rustling woods.

Interviewer short hair Karen woman probably a member of the LGBQT community gender study teacher asks why her progressive woke political views aren't represented in GOT..... Me: idk.... maybe because this is playing in some fantasy fiction Middle Ages rip off from English history which has very different norms, values and culture then the modern twitter mob????

​@romaneeconti02 Who asked you to spout your political bullshit when replying to my comment? Hitler was, I think we can agree, one of the most despicable people of all time. He was also a Nationalistic Fascist. Very much not liberal. Stalin. Not liberal. Pol Pot not liberal. Also there are parasites who burrow through a persons eye into the brain as part of their life cycle... that pretty despicable. And the flesh eating disease. So yeah, your comment is, how did you put it? Oh yes, "unintelligent".

@romaneeconti02 The fact that you felt the need to ad hom in your reply speaks volumes. "Nazism is a splitting image of modern liberalism"...?? Well shit, I must have missed the call from the liberal parties to go around killing Jews, gays, and to invade other nations for the glory of the supreme race. And you call me a moron? So a totalitarian ideology that was predicated on the supremacy of a single race in which one of the guiding principles was the total obedience to its Fuhrer where which one wasn't allowed to speak against his ideas is the same as allowing free thought, equality of races, freedom and democracy? Because that's what liberalism is based on. You are essentially saying the square is the same as the circle... and that's categorically wrong.

You make some good points BUT Seriously Is your head in the sand? You haven’t noticed the Democratic Party going more and more anti-Semitic. Congresswoman Omar was saying dumb stuff every other week. The Holocaust didn’t start over night. Anti-Semitic feeling were in Germany since at least 1880. First comes rhetoric before persecution and imo we have been seeing anti Jewish rhetoric coming out of the Democratic Party. AOC, Omar Talib. Anti Jewish sentiments on college campuses. It’s definitely out there.

@@ryanmccombs7874 I'm not from the US (And cheekily I might say thank goodness!) So I don't closely follow internal politics over there. However I am aware of some bad actors in the US, but I would not identify them as liberal, rather regressive. It doesn't matter if one claims to be liberal, if ones words and actions are anti liberal then one calling oneself liberal doesn't make one one. On Anti-Semitic feelings: Yes, in fact the roots of anti Semitism goes back to around 380CE if I remember my history lectures correctly.

​@romaneeconti02 Apologies, I meant authoritarian. I wasn't "claiming" Nazism was totalitarian, I simply got my terms mixed up. You are splitting hairs over the difference. My meaning was clear, and both totalitarianism and authoritarianism are horrible... IMO. Your opening post talked about "liberals". Being more of a classical ilk myself I understood you to be having a nonsensical crack at liberalism. Now you've switched goal posts and apparently are talking about modern liberalism. Here's a tip - next time be more precise. Because just as saying all feminists are crazy man hating monsters is a bullshit statement that doesn't take into account the vast variety of feminist thought, so is saying "Liberals are the most despicable and unintelligent forms of life in the world" complete bullshit and doesn't account for the different liberal thought. Even then I'm not sure if I agree that modern liberalism is based on racism. If you said modern progressive-ism is based on racism you might have more of a case as progressives will make policy based entirely on race. As it stands you haven't made a case. You've simply stated something as if it were true.

I was just going to write that! Most of the heroes are women.

@@donnyh3497 But the guys dont get their kit off like the women do. In that way it is sexist.

@@hedkandicaine I might agree if I knew what "get there kit off" meant 😋

@@donnyh3497: WeAreAllNeo says you don't see male sensitive parts in the show. (Actually they have shown.)

@@Szopjale1 You dont, I've seen some old man who didnt have a big part (pun intended) in the show or other minor characters but when it comes to female nudity, there are alot of full frontal. Dont mind nudity, but it should be equal for both sexes, and comparative ages, and context. So like I said, you dont see men get their kit off like the women do, I didnt say men 'never get their kit off'

Hmm maybe a page. But that stills takes months

And it would take 4892 of these questions for him to wrap up the series Dude's got the block

Okay good point!

Yeah, I don't know why George bothers with interviews like this. Call me crazy but I'd rather read Winds than listen to people who think portraying sexism and racism IN FICTION is somehow problematic.

Sorry to upset your perfect balance of 666 Likes...

"George, your fantasy world isn't socially just." ".... yes?"

why is so hard to answer questions? no need to be so defensive, maybe?

Caesar even told his captors that their demands were too small and that they should ask for more!

@@pappy374 so said Caesar

By the way the story is probablt historical. It's the embelishment that Caesar put in his account that I'm mocking in my reply to Papy

Ceasar then did a Daenerys and murdered the pirates to death. Until they all died of being murdered. Quite brutally. He crucified them, covered them in tar and set them on fire. So very like Daenerys.

@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human Yeah. But Caesar also warned them that he'd come back with a huge fleet and execute them if they set him free. And so he did

@@moelester2797 mate im just commenting on a funny line

@Ragnarok what are you blathering about? Im stating that that's my favorite line of his in that conversation. Pretty open and shut case.

Scott Wellman what do you even mean “what are you blathering about”? Are you stupid?

lol

"Oh look, they cast Sean Bean as the main character. I hope he doesn't die haha! (Even though he can't die because he's the main character!)" - Me, watching season 1 before reading the books

@@violet-trash I started watching GoT before I knew anything about it and they were 3 seasons in. A friend leant me the seasons and I loved ned Stark. Though he was an awesome character. All the way up to him bowing his head and mouthing his last words I was waiting that one moment where some one comes out of no where and saves him. Nobody came and off went his head. It was shocking. But the red wedding still takes the cake on most surprising and shocking death scenes. I never thought they could kill off a main character let alone 2 at the same time.

You can argue that anything that exists is natural.

"Dying one of his many deaths" 🤣🤣

😎🤗😎

💩

@A. Dara - 🤣❤️

That means everyone in the show has been pronouncing it wrong😂

Justafan IV, Dothrakai

When did he say that ? the vedio is really long!

I refuse to accept this.

@@---bd3kf 4:45

He looks so unbothered while she’s talking

lmfao

I thought I was the only one yelling at my screen telling her to stop blabbering on.

I think he could already see where it was going and had already dismissed it and was just chilling while she lathered the compliments on hoping he wouldn't get annoyed at what was an obviously dumb and pretty flimsy question that lowkey accused him of racism and sexism.

I think he had to concentrate, to not forget the actual question until she was done. 😂

It is common for your eyebrows to fall out as you get older

All it takes is one look and you can tell the type of person she is.

@@Martick05545 Karen, Kunt, Krazy, Klutz?

She didn't get the taste of blood she wanted, so she kept trying.

@@Martick05545 She's just interviewing him? Seems like you're ascribing maliciousness to her words that isn't there, just because of how she looks

Who the hell is leviticus Cornwall?

Antagonist preacher in 1950’s Alabama

More like an oil magnet in 1899

2shls N G A V I N ?

FACTS Jesus Christ

Everything good has downsides too. Internet gave voice to all of us but also allowed some morons to call what they say 'critique' 😂 maybe it should become a protected term like dentist or dietitian

I think you're ascribing motive to the moderator that isn't there. The conversation she starts actually ends up being wide ranging and thought provoking, which you would know had you actually watched the conversation.

Yeah, I don't get that she's lending credibility to anything. These are concerns that have been raised and he was given a platform to explain why they have no real justification. That to me is a good thing.

Even if he was sexist or racist, who cares? He wrote a book series and that's that.

People should care. Not carrying often leads to baseless worship to the creator. We see this every entertainer or writer to this day.

Go back 20 years ago and you would have the opposite problem. People mocking and belittling you for wasting time with things that aren’t real. I honestly don’t know which is worse.

@@mikekane2492 I of course don’t believe that they are at the same level but I also think that at some point you have to admit that fiction is an important part to our culture, and there for help to build our morals and values. Now obviously we shouldn’t be screaming over that the main character is a male or something but I believe that we need to have a discussion about how much bigotry in cinema and books actually can filter into our daily lives. I hope I don’t even have to explain that we shouldn’t censor fiction and that writers of course has to have the right to write about whatever they want, since if we don’t let them have that right we are restraining their minds and creativity and therefore breaking the human rights by the UN.

​@@Melker_A “ we need to have a discussion about how much bigotry in cinema and books actually can filter into our daily lives.” First there needs to be some _reasonable_ concordance over what precisely constitutes “bigotry” in any credible sense. Alas the parameters that traditionally define prejudice have become disquietingly blurred in recent times... Regardless, there’s a demonstrable profusion of _anti-white/male_ bigotry emanating from the likes of Hollywood these days... but I rather suspect you’re not alluding to _that_ sort. ;)

@@makara80 I’m not alluding to any specific kind of injustice. I recognize that there is prejudice in everything. It doesn’t matter if its coming or going to a person who’s black, white, christian, atheist, a person who likes pineapple on pizza or people who doesn’t like pineapple on pizza. My argument was more of a philosophical kind. I wasn’t directing it to any specific person or event. All I am saying is that discrimination always starts somewhere, sometimes it is because of a toxic person in your life or a bad living environment. But I believe that fiction and the part it plays in our culture also has to do with it. So if a generation of fiction writers write successful works that have prejudice undertones, it will reflect on that society’s culture. This then becomes a perpetual cycle, where a new generation of writers grow up believing the same myths or discriminatory beliefs the previous generations work coined. At the core of it I think we can at least somewhat agree on that.

@@mikekane2492 Hot damn man, calm down. None of that was in any way what Vioar actually said. If people saying that belittling others for enjoying fiction is wrong offends you, then perhaps you're not very mature...?

Very much agree. He's written a series of interrelated narratives that are connected on several levels, and the common thread is that he is dealing with humans that come out of his own personal experience and aspirations, and then our common context of being among other tribes, and then trying to span his stories into the distant past in medieval times when life would, for instance, never tolerate this kind of PC SJW stupidity. In fact the latter would be swatted aside as an annoying bug! So it is that these times of over-riding self-absorption means that Martin must put up with the left's insistence on over-defining every little 'sensitive' thing, until the truth is beaten to death. Good thing that this impending chaos does still have some pushback from some sharp minds of our day!

I notice that right away lol. If I ever wrote something as complicated and dense with interesting story as the GoT series and they ask me questions about political implications in the real world, especially along these bullshit lines, I'd just leave the interview. Or if there's an audience I'd tell the interviewer to ask me things about my books (so I wouldnt disappoint the audience by leaving).

I don’t think it’s crazy to have this conversation, but I think GRRM’s answers were good. What he’s said in the past that’s made the most sense to me is that most fantasy novels are very Eurocentric because they’re written by Europeans. We will get high quality writing that’s more diverse when a more diverse group of authors begin writing great books.

Look on his face : "I've got NO pages"

Came to write the same thing

Legit what I thought, there would be a whole speech of erasing the moroccans etc etc

The question is rather why they chose Morocoo as the place to film the scenes for slaver‘s bay...

Abdol Sabor Salek Well it perfectly fit with what Yunkai looked like in the books so it makes sense also let’s not forget North Africa’s very nice history of being slavers in the real world it works pretty well tbh.

Cobra4811 Now you’re contradicting GRRM. He claimed that the slaves in in the books were not picked by racial lines but just „randomly“. You now claiming that real life Moroccans look similar to them just contradicts his statement. Which one is it now? Your second argument also is weird. There are soooo many they she could have picked for slaver‘s bay like Turkey (Ottoman Empire), the US etc. But they picked an area that would not come directly to mind when talking about slavery.

Abdol Sabor Salek wtf that has nothing to do with what I said you just straw manning hard

Many people will not understand this joke lol

or maybe the interviewer had nothing to do with these accusations. She never told us her personal opinion. Don't be so quick to judge

@@Joullele9 You are asking too much from people who desperatly want to act smart.

Nicolas Broodryk preeeeeach

Nicolas Broodryk Best joke I’ve ever heard in my life. Well done, sir.

yea because he has no reason to.

You don't apologize to these SJW types, you can never appease them.

@@FlowerTrollSan exactly then it'll be now apologise for this too....never ending shit

Ally he interviewers kept twisting his words because he was beating their invalid argument.

So much character growth in these books. Amazing

@@toby1061 I’m sure he knew what he was getting into when he agreed to the interview, and he was probably handsomely paid for his appearance.

Thats a proven fact he didn't remind anyone of anything lol

@@ominousbottleoflube Is there a point to that comment? Reminders can be given for anything, including facts.

Brainwasher Detective Agency Martin says they casted who was available on location and the show and books handled it differently. The books had slavery more like Greek/Roman slavery. Where in there is the “oh and remember blk ppl aren’t the only ones who were slaves” lol.

Jerrick Jerrels it’s called a subtle point.

@@ominousbottleoflube There's lots of proven facts that get otherwise completely ignored, all for the benefit of pushing political, economic and financial narratives. If anything, lies make up the fabric of modern society to the point that so many people are willing to consider conspiracies more than they are willing to listen to the likely (or in the very least increasingly) state controlled media. Look in your university classes, on TV and (generally speaking) your youtube suggestions for an update on the currently accepted talking points and narratives.

That one there was a violation, personally I wouldn't have it

He was the null hypothesis.

Based on the show wich differs from his books. Not as much as with other adaptations, but still. Differences.

Hey George there is a perceived racist in a fictional world I’m horrified!!! For fuck sake

@@errolflynn610 Lady said a lot of words without saying much.

Also, "how he made his world" socially and politically is largely shaped by real world historical fact. In the books, GRRM is just being honest about what those situations were, while weaving it into a fantasy setting. We can effectively learn from the mistakes of what can be a very horrific history if we look at it with honest eyes, not sheltered eyes. Trying to suppress and make historical facts go away for the sake of pampering modern sensibility... that's just stupid and reckless.

🤣🤣🤣 It's totally ridiculous. If the want a perfect all inclusive word perhaps the should create one. But the don't create or invent. All they do is criticize and tear down. Lol it's so pathetic.

And thats is the reason why i like this saga.

I think this is why season 8 fell flat for many. A lot of the characters became caricatures of their good or bad qualities, or worse completely flipped. I liked the show because of how “gray” it really was. It’s a fantasy show but it showed how humans really are. At least in my opinion

thats why I stopped watching movies and series nearly entirely and switched to books.

@@kingplunger6033 I prefer books over movies and shows. This interview is very ridiculous, even though I have never read nor seen GOT. Just wait until they read Gillian Flynn’s books, they’re heads are going to exploded.

Honestly, if anything, if we’re talking very recent, I’d say people are too forgiving for “grey characters” when a lot of them are just terrible people, and the character or the fans, or both, use one redeeming quality or a sad backstory to justify their terrible actions.

What do you mean there isn't a feminist rally in Medieval Europe?

@@Golgari213 No and I hate to be the one to tell you but I don't think they were having any table talks about race relations either.

@@Julia-vo6or it was a joke so uovote my comment.

@@Golgari213 lol Bradley I was joking to I liked your comment.

@@Julia-vo6or wait the knights of the round table didn’t have the table for talking about race relations??? 🤭

OneMeanArtist, and hungry. Bring me one of those chickens.

IrishPotato86 You got money to pay for it?

Benjamin Collins not a penny

Knight Spectre I’ll still take one of those chickens

You are going to die for some chickens?

Zachary Bryant I'm at 1:15 and I'm struggling

I had to skip than lost interest just cause I knew she’s reaching

@@Hope-Truth-Light lol GRRM is subtly giving her the middle finger at 1:28

Yeah she's aweful. They couldnt find or make concise questions for the man? Hes getting older it would just be polite...

I'm not sure how used you are to academic settings, but these kinds of questions are of normal length for university discussions (as this interview is). The goal is to get the context for the question (which is often from a critical position not exhausted by everyday common sense) clear so that the interviewee can actually get an idea of how to answer. In other wors, she is not reaching, she is specifying.

Game of Thrones is too white

@@notleftvsrightnationalismv4666 wtf does that mean

@@ty63t0 It means he hates white people. Very simple.

@@notleftvsrightnationalismv4666 So what?

@@notleftvsrightnationalismv4666 why?? whats too white?? the fact is its regionally accurate...warm climbs more variations of skin tones ..in the cold north lighter skin tones..seems fine to me.

that kind of mindset of labelling everyone in any minority that way is actually kind of unintentionally racist, but we can't explain that to those people without them losing their shit XD

Unlike most of this comment section....

It's really nice seeing his well spoken phrasing contrasting the bloated Tomlin sitting in the chair across from him.

I know. I would have cussed them out. Guess that's why I'm not a famous writer

The dude takes years to carefully plan how his characters speak and act and how they see things, I'm glad that he takes as much care into a majority of what he says.

GRR whispers into the microphone, "Fucking liberals. It was about slavery socialism, ain't that what you want?"

Don't you get it? It is never enough. Every Time you try to be inclusive some other minority will come out of nowhere and claim racism/sexism/whatever. No sorry. A self-proclaimed public Speaker for said minority will come out and bitch about it.

That's what I was thinking. Brianne, Arya, Lyanna Stark (aka the Knight of the Laughing Tree), the sandsnakes, Meera Reed, etc are all valent warriors. Then you have characters like Cersei and Dany who are not warriors but make sure their interests are heard in other ways. I'm not sure if I know another adult fantasy series (as opposed to teenage girl fantasy series) with more strong female characters. Edit: just going by books do that's why people like Lyanna Mormont are missing.

@@endersdragon34 The best female characters are Dany and Cercei. Not strong warriors but strong characters.

@Dingle Barry Sansa has achieved nothing alone the entire show. Her character has grown through hardships, but her attitude doesn't match her accomplishments. She has this "mastermind" attitude that has no reality. Arya has had a nice character arch, but now the show has made her basically unstoppable and it's ruining what was built for her. Honestly, once the book material ended, this show has gone drastically downhill. I used to agree with Sansa being a well written character, but they have pushed it way too far without having anything to backup the change lately.

That' the cancer of modern feminism for you.

It shows a lack of critical thinking. And i’d think them as not having good comprehension skills. It’s very rare these days to see someone with actual views, they got from actual experiences. Now a days its all just band wagon. A he said - she said. Instead of a proper account.

I can tell him thinking..."This bitch is crazy" as she asks the question.

Martin has said many times he is a feminist

Can I get a time stamp of this 😂

PHALLIC hahahaha I love it.

@@LordSathar I hate stereotyping but with her haircut was there really any surprise this would be the kind of question she would ask?

Why are so many people one sided!

Screw tradition!

They’re not. Dummy

Probably more like HER own lol

They definitely are

...That's a chick??

indeed!

He's acting like that because he knows what's coming, and I think he's sick of this pc bullshit.

That's the problem with lady or with men with bad self confidence, they can't be concise.

I knew he was going to do something when she just kept fucking talking

U couldn't be more wrong.

TMD-W he does have a point, a common stigma now is that african americans constantly use slavery as a means to shame whites are unvalidate their side. When it was a white government who wrote the emancipation proclamation.

@@benjamincollins95 But it didn't do so out of kindness or without public pressure coming from the civil rights movement. Also it is not about the question how slaves in the real world would feel about this, but about why a (white) writer/director depicts the freeing of slaves in a certain way. Martin made it clear, that the depiction of that scene in the tv-show is due to practical reasons while shooting and thats perfectly fine in my books. But not knowing that, i think, the question why a white person is the savior of thousands of people of colour is justified, since they are again depicted as passive and somewhat dependent on the active white girl.

@@brutalfunkcore not to mention the white savior is a very common trope and i think it makes sense for people to be tired of seeing this

SkyBlue file that under, ‘Things White People Say’.

She's just a lesbian activist for hire

he was a professor also

Hard cringe for that comment

Amen.

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