"Android investigating Android's..." It's almost like humans investigating humans

This is supposed to be everything wrong with Detroit: Become Human. Not Everything wrong with David Cage.

8:49 she does. YK500 is specifically designed to simulate a human child for people who wish to have a child but unable to. They can however switch off certain function according to their desire. YK500 can indeed eat and defecate, which is one of its/her function.

90% of these “sins” can be explained and make sense if you look into the lore of the game. The other 10% are just David Cage being David Cage

I feel about 25-33% of these sins are not about the game at all, or partially about the game but much moreso about david cage.

The sins about Alice just feel like something you ignored yourself, it's obvious that Todd used Alice as some sort of replacement to fill the void of his daughter.

27:30 you can actually get dialogue of this if you stay idle in the Eden club before the investigation starts. I just know Hank asks the owner if anything has happened like this before and the owner just says an android went missing 2-3 months ago. That android is North.

Honestly the only sin in this game is that Todd is able to afford two androids and still pay for Kara's numerous repairs even though he is jobless and has lots of credit card debt to pay.

This is weird. You seem to have some personal obsession with hating David Cage

Half of these aren't even sins, they're just "David Cage"

17:43 He actually knows alice is an android because if you die in that chapter you have a cutscene of him dismantling alice

This video had less research than my science project in second grade.

David Cage: *Breathes* This channel: "SINNER!"

Not gonna lie, I genuinely enjoyed this game

Almost all of these "sins" don't even matter or could easily be explained, even if you ignore the ones about David Cage.

10:26 Deviants self destruct when they are stressed, not normal androids. It obviously has something to do with becoming a deviant and was not in the initial programming

Only Markus and Connor can convert Androids because they are both prototype builds of rk series

First Android was upset because he was being replaced when he thought that he was actually part of the family. Not because he was going to be killed. Sounds like you have a personal vendetta against David Cage and didn't bother to double check your research as long as it suited your agenda.

12:36 Connor’s actor, Bryan, explained in a video that the android must be deviant to know that they want to take the LED off in the first place, so it’s likely that Cyberlife didn’t anticipate deviancy and as such, didn’t bother making the LEDs hard to remove.

Actually, you are mistaken about Zlatko. He does recognize that Alice is an android. There are several clues. First off, he doesn't decide to help until he sees Alice. Kara has likely changed her appearance enough that he doesn't immediately recognize that she is an android. That is why he doesn't want to help. And later he refers to Alice as "it" and tells Luther to take her to his workshop where he works on androids. Also, the Kamski test had nothing to do with Chloe. The point was to test whether Connor was capable of empathy. Kamski wanted to know if he was going deviant.

12:40 Bryan Dechart ( who plays Connor ) mentioned that the android would have to have become deviant to be aware of the LED and take it out

The android at the beginning was mad because they were going to replace him and he loved the family

I wish there was a sins channel that actually pointed out plot holes and weak story lines so people could judge games fairly.

Does he realise he achieved the BEST possible ending of the game? Like how? He even managed to keep Simon alive- just letting u know those characters can die at 100 different places

Todd acting like Alice is his daughter makes sense. He got her to replace his real daughter, so he puts all of his feelings and emotions on to her. His wife and daughter left him, so he got Alice to start over and to be his replacement goldfish.

17:43 Of course he knew. It's a matter of "show, don't tell". Notice how he kept referring to her as "it", he knew Alice was an android, but had no reason to say it out loud.

Zlatko definitely knew Alice was an Android..... there is a reason he says “ that child” incredulously and refers to her as “it”

Sins in this video: -The hostage taking Android went deviant from realizing the family he thought loved him would replace him, not that he would be shut down. -Todd would treat Alice like a human, as he bought her to do just that. Why do you think she doesn't have an LED? She is there to replace the daughter his partner probably took. -The economy of a futurescape with robotic labor available for any profession is not worth speculating about, let alone making claims for. -You should sin the product, not the fact that David Cage directed it. -The fact that the bus driver doesn't force Kara to the back of the bus implies that it is not actual segregation. The android compartment is probably to save space and not fill up seats with beings that don't experience comfort or personal space. But if they are needed on the bus itself, such as when an android is chaperoning a child, they are allowed there. -Yet again, your hate for David Cage blinds you to the merits of the game itself. -The point of fat people being bad is undercut by the fact that Rose exists. -Kara's story is there to show the impact Connor and Markus have on an average person. If Markus is violent, it's a lot harder for them. -Self destruction doesn't seem to be a non-deviant feature. It was not intended. -Deviants would self destruct on having their memory probed. -Kara couldn't use Todd's account without revealing her location. -Public transportation may be free in a futurescape like this game. -Hank gets away with what he does because of his past in the force and with the chief. Not that it's a great plot point, but it's not ridiculous. -Alice's mom left. Implying that Alice should have a connection to her still is unfounded. -The Jericho people don't seem surprised by the warehouse plan. They just didn't attempt it until Markus convinced them. -Kara was located not after escaping Todd. The tracker could have explained that. -Connor specifically doesn't tell Hank that it is an android sex club. Hank is surprised by it when they get there. -Not a sin, but I agree that Markus's weird power of mind control and deviancy creation is weird. -Child androids designed to replace children probably have fever programs. They get cold and uncomfortable, or at least pretend to be, so why wouldn't they imitate illness? -The graphiti vandalism is an impulsive act by Markus. The plan was just to free androids in stores. -Kamski was fairly hidden. Hank could've started the search for him as soon as he was put on the investigation. -Kamski was testing if Connor specifically was deviant and had empathy. He is unconcerned about the Chloe, and doesn't think she is deviant. -Markus can definitely die. Many times. As can everyone else. -Reviewing the evidence is a last ditch effort, probably not the first time they've done that. It's all Connor can think to do to solve it however. -A small part of Jericho exploded, causing it to sink. The explosives were just in one room. This is explained by all of them just saying it will force them to evacuate, not kill them. -This game has cliches and plot holes, but not nearly as many as you imply.

Some of these sins do fall flat if you consider other options you could make, but then again, many more would be added...

I’d probably sit for hours to watch an Android Paint too

9:20 Oh come on, man. Todd was insane in his loneliness and red ice addiction. There's no plot-writing sin in showing him trying to put blame on an android. 10:57 Really? Haven't seen people breaking their stuff out of sheer rage? Since androids are perceived as things, lashing out at one is almost equal to throwing phone to the wall. 20:13 Really? It's stated, that Markus was custom made and gifted to Carl Manfred by Elijah Kamski, who was a fan of Mr. Manfred's fine art. So Marcus got his ability from his custom software. If androids fail to gain victory in their uprising, Kamski becomes CEO of the company again. It was his plan all along and he wins no matter what happens.

7:30 How is this a sin? So what, he has his preference. Most of these "sins" are just non-constructive, hateful pieces of your biased attitude towards David Cage.

*press X to become human*

24:36 The reason that Rose says that Alice has a fever is because Alice is supposed to be just like a normal child so she can get "cold", have "fevers" and "sneeze".

Markus is the rk200 Connor is the rk800 It’s obvious that he can do what Markus can do

1:29 His memory would still be wiped, which is likely what Daniel was pissed about.

- sins the “reveal” of Lt. Anderson’s son being “killed by an Android” but leaves out the fact that Lt. Anderson HIMSELF says his son was killed by a HUMAN doctor who was too high on Red Ice to operate - Really man? That’s like one of the more critical scenes in the game.

**screams to the phone** TWENTY-EIGHT STAB WOUNDS! DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE HIM A CHANCE, HUH?!

If you do the recycling plant Kara mission at the end (by surrendering in the previous level), you can unlock the skinless android versions of Kara and Alice in the gallery, which gives you a bit more info on their system specs. Alice can get fevers and other illnesses as part of the "mimic child" function (and her LED can be turned off without having to be removed); surprised Luther or another character didn't just come out and say this in-game, but there you go. Also, Zlatko refers to her as "it" and intends to do his weird robo-surgery experiments on her, so clearly recognises that she's an android, even if Kara is deluding herself.

I was expecting Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics" to be mentioned in the video, as it is extremely relevant A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws

17:50 zlatko knows Alice is Android when he reboots kara he says luther to take the "little brat, I will deal with it later" He calls Alice it

Everything Wrong With Detroit: Become Human 1.David Cage video over.

7:02 Markus can also copy Carl's work that takes him months in just a few moments, which means either Markus is best speedrunner when it comes to painting, or Carl sits there watching Markus paint for a few months

i feel like more than half of these "sins" are just misinterpretations

My PlayStation error screen came after kamski on conners mind said “by the way I always leave an emergency exit in my programs you never know.”

Humans: androids don't feel emotions Also humans: **insluts adroids to make them feel bad**

I love how Markus's whole story is jumpstarted by the fact that the cops didn't do their job right when a rich guy's house was broken into.

16:09 he talks about the controls being difficult when they actually weren't haha I didn't get stuck on any level for too long...maybe he just wasn't nice enough at the game haha

The real sin about the Alice android twist is that it undermines Kara's storyline. I know there are supporters to the twist who feel that there is a message or test in it for the gamers, but I don't care. There is no denying that Kara's story was already very beautiful when we thought Alice was human.

Here's a drinking game. Take a shot every time he says "David"

30:41 He doesn’t leave, Carl treats him well. He does what you think he should do. If Carl dies at the end of the conversation, he comes in, analyses his life signs and is super distressed.

21:44 they were programmed to self-wipe their memory. To force a deviant to wipe memory, it has to be done manually, unless they wipe it on their own.

"Who would buy a machine that might brick itself?" Anyone who buys Apple products, in fact.

I didn't like how he made Alice an Android because I liked the idea of how the human and an Android could get along so well

Alice feels pain because she is designed to be like a real kid

Dartigan: *Gives a sin because humans are being irrational.* The Game: OH MY GOD! THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT!

8:35 that's incorrect. Police just found Carlos, he died three weeks earlier but they just discovered the body when connor and hank arrived

the sin at 27:28 is incorrect, if you stand around hank and the manager without looking for eyewitnesses you can hear the club manager mentioning that he's had an android "run off" after going home with a client and never being seen again after he ended up dead. This is a reference to North's background and was really interesting when I first stumbled on it. EDIT: Also when you first arrive at the police station as Connor and look up deviant case files there is a case filed by the manager as well, stating that a WR400 or Traci sex bot went missing after escorting the customer. so it's mentioned TWICE!

Umm yes a lot of American homes have the toilet separated from the shower area, the last 3 homes I’ve lived in are that way.

11:17 It's strange that Kara seems to be the only deviant who can't recognize ra9. We know this because of three scenes. 1. If you decide to stay with Ralph for the night after escaping Todd then walk into the kitchen, you find Ralph carving the phrase ra9 all over the walls of the kitchen, Kara examines it for a bit then asks Ralph what it means. Also apparently some androids can know about ra9 but not know what it means, because Ralph replies with, "I don't know." 2. In Zlatko's home there's a room where you can find ra9 written in the corner (I don't remember which room it was) Kara examines it and once again seems to have no knowledge of it as she just stares at it blankly without idea. 3. In the concentration camp there's small spot with ra9 scribbled on it and then it's exactly like #2

Daniel didn't snap because he didn't want to die. He snapped because he felt betrayed. He didn't want to die in the hostage situation. And Carl had an accident not too long before the game. He probably had his mansion before the wheelchair

17:45 atually Zlatko knows that Alice is an android, that's why he let Kara and Alice in his house.

on the point of connor and markus being able to awaken androids, if you make Connor shoot the Chloe at Kamski's place you can choose "VIRUS" to ask kamski in which he says deviancy spreads through android indenfication data they share with each other so any "infected" android can "infect" others with deviancy

16:58 I only have now understood why Zlatko attempted to turn away Kara. Kara had disguised herself as human by cutting her hair and changing clothes, so Zlatko thought she was some random person. Zlatko is an expert on androids and so once he noticed Alice he immediately knew she was an android because Alice had not disguised herself. With a quick bit of thinking Zlatko recognized Kara as another android model.

you might aswell name this video "everything wrong with David Cage"

I believe ra9 is the player himself

6:01 I thought that Alice looked nothing like the child in this photograph. Now I see that wasn’t just bad animation.

“He’s grown so much” “Sin”

New drinking game: Take a sip each time you hear "David Cage" in this video.

Alice says in the game that she didnt want kara to know her secret because she tought kara would not love her as much if she knew-

Dude, four minutes into this video are enough to see you are a frustrated writer. You are pointing at narrative decisions as "sins", like "omg is he comparing the androids being enslaved to slavery?". Well, yes, that is like the central issue of the plot. You would have written it differently. But you did not write the game. So, not being you becomes a sin.

I really can't tell if this is a joke anymore. One moment I think "oh he's just doing a cinema sins thing, he's just being funny" then I'm thinking "wait that sin doesn't make sense, it was explained in the game itself... and why do you include David Cage in almost every sentence you speak?" the next.

I would assume that Alice is just how he is choosing to deal with his issues. He's pretending it's his daughter (and is apparently usually high on something) so him talking to her like she isn't an Android isn't surprising

Quite a few of the sins were plot points that are addressed in different story branches. For example, Alice can run a fever and simulate other common illnesses as part of her programming. rA9 is explained by Kamski if you choose to ask him about it, and a secret ending pretty much confirms that the deviant problem was engineered. I still love this vid but there aren't as many plot holes as you think

I like it when characters that don't know eachother meet and interact in game.

"Raise your hand if you think speaking with the man who invented androids should have been the first thing Hank and Connor did in their investigation into android deviancy" My mom: *Son why are you raising your hand?*

10:20 A sin should be removed because Connor deadass explains this immediately after.

As a drug addict with a mood disorder caused by antidepressants, it wouldn't be surprising if Todd was delusional and projected his feelings about his real daughter onto Alice. After all, why would he have Alice in the first place if not to replace his daughter. In addition to this, when Todd gets violent towards Kara in certain other paths (IE the one where he kills Alice) and claims that this is "all her fault". At first glance this could seem like a borderline fourth wall break intended to scold the player for failing, but if you think about it this could also be Todd projecting his feelings about his ex wife onto Kara. So basically, if you consider this, the script isn't flawed and isn't made only for the convenience of a plot twist, but instead a true depiction of severe mental illness and addiction.

Any character: h- This guy: They said something, which is so David Cage. It's unnecessary. *ding*

I swear, like half of the sins are about David Cage.

5:37 actually, i live in california and i have a separate room for my toilet. so do my grandparents, who live like 15 minutes away from me. so, they ARE a thing in american homes. *-1 sin*

It's actually scary to know that Dartigan has intimate knowlgde of David Cage tropes just by playing some of his past games.

08:02 what about Rose, or Hank, or Fowler, or that other fat detective that Hank worked with

The whole video he said “david cage” like 70 times

Honestly I feel like lots of the “sins” are just opinions and not objective things wrong with the game, like instead of saying it’s stupid the game mirrors segregation and slavery at the same time consider this isn’t an EXACT parallel androids are not just a race they’re a new species in this story so obviously it will be different, you seem to think since the story blatantly eludes to these heavy issues all the aspects of the story MUST fit within those parameters. I mean, that’s pretty ridiculous.

Oh so many incorrect sins that could have been answered by simply paying attention. (The rest were fine, but damn did it mess with my enjoyment of the video.) For example, Zlatko DOES know that Alice is an android, he just doesn't let on to Kara that he knows. In fact, you can hear him talking to Luther about "it" later in the scene when referring to Alice. A better sin would be "How the *hell* does Kara not notice the blue blood stains all over Zlatko's hands?" Also, why is Hank's character development a sin? So few of the characters in this game have development. Don't knock one of them that does.

“Everything wrong with Detroit: Become Human” Me: Nothing

12:15 they named it after the boat it was on, and this is foreshadowing that jericho IS later invaded and destroyed

I'd take at least 1 sin away for the Alice changing temperature bit. It's how she was programmed, to act and react like a normal human child. In the Battle Of Detroit chapter (If you weren't captured) you can talk to her at the beginning and decide whether or not to turn her sensitivity to the weather off

10:30 Only deviants self destruct when they're in stressful situations, Connor literally says this at 10:25. They aren't programmed to self destruct, the entire concept of the game is deviants don't follow their programming. How do you sin the first half of a sentence with listening to the second half!?

8:09 "you padding the sin count bro?"

A lot of the sins that poke at markus being able to instantly convert androids makes sense when you see how troubled Connor was when he learnt Simon's memories/death in a variant of the stratford tower investigation

Half of these sins are invalid. The whole point of the game is Androids becoming human, so change from their original programming. The ones with Todd make me believe you haven’t actually played the game, the whole point is that Todd’s daughter was out of the picture so he acted as if this Android was his daughter.

I’m surprised “my name is Connor I’m the Android sent by cyberlife” was not a removal of a sin

This 35 minute video has more sins that the entire 10-12 hour game.

28:32 So what if David Cage's work is similar to his previous work? You wouldn't blame an artist for making 3 paintings with the same art style

Game with flaws: * exsits * Sin counter: *d a v i d c a g e*

Cyberlife is actually located on Belle Isle, which is an island between Detroit and Canada that belongs to Detroit. The bridge he crosses exists currently.

The cars not slowing down is another bit of (perhaps unintentional) foreshadowing. If you read the various magazines one of them talks about how automated cars will do all these calculations in an instant to minimize injury/death. They don’t slow down because both Kara and Alice are androids and don’t factor into their safety protocols. :)

Kara’s story is meant to be about the average everyday androids at that time. The androids that wanted freedom. Their story isn’t meant to be about their influence on the revolution. You either get them free, or you don’t. You have Markus leading the revolution, Connor against it (depending on what you choose), and then Kara and Alice, who just want freedom.