Game Theory: Why You Can't Save Aerith With a Phoenix Down! (Final Fantasy 7)

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One of the most memorable, and heartbreaking, moments of the original Final Fantasy 7 game was the death of Aerith. No matter what you do, how many saves you load, there is no way to save her. Not even the Phoenix Down works! It's always bugged me that this resource made to save people from death, couldn't save this beloved character. Why IS that? Today, it's time to pluck some feathers and see if we can find an answer to this fowl question!
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@whenisdinner2137 4 жыл бұрын

As we say in borderlands, "Death isn't permanent unless its in a cutscene."

@jeremybitar9831 4 жыл бұрын

Still better than FFXIV where somebody killed in a cutscene can be dead or just missing for half the game and show up again. Also deaths outside of cutscenes are possible

@KohenBlassingame 4 жыл бұрын

MATPAT NEEDS TO DO A WITCHER 3 THEORY

@lunerblade13 4 жыл бұрын

CATCH A RIDE

@5kit 4 жыл бұрын

Or minecraft hardcore

@KurtisC93 4 жыл бұрын

Fire Emblem has entered the chat.

@BootyjuiceJenkins 4 жыл бұрын

The most dangerous thing to a video game character is not magic, enemies, or low health. *It's a cutscene*

@jaire4061 4 жыл бұрын

Bootyjuice Jenkins or cannon...😭

@HELLRAISER02 4 жыл бұрын

Yeap, in gameplay you can take multiple shotgun shells before dying, in a cutscenes you die to a single rifle bullet, absolutely ridiculous

@flameburst9734 4 жыл бұрын

Especially XC2 characters.

@RobinDJoker 4 жыл бұрын

unless you're in a Devil May Cry game, or a game made by Platinum Games, in which case a cutscene means you're nigh unstoppable

@JFra472449 4 жыл бұрын

Hyperion: We can always bring you back, unless you died in a cutscene.

@yourdadisizzy 4 жыл бұрын

I've always thought of them as being able to bring people back from the BRINK of death not death itself, so it always made sense to me.

@jetstreamgaming8058 4 жыл бұрын

They are explained in every situation as reviving someone from unconsciousness not death. Because when you die your life force returns to the stream as mako energy Wich can’t be restored

@trsamisari 3 жыл бұрын

Well then they should rename them, because phoenixes come back from ashes, so they revive

@blackshadow016 2 жыл бұрын

that's exactly my thought

@watertommyz 4 жыл бұрын

"Fell Unconscious" solves the problem. Phoenix down isn't for death revivals.

@elliotburing87 4 жыл бұрын

Too bad that is a retcon.

@MalekitGJ 4 жыл бұрын

@@elliotburing87 not really, it's been a thing since FF4 (much before than FF7)

@cmelton6796 4 жыл бұрын

downy fresh smelling salts

@fernandozavaletabustos205 4 жыл бұрын

@@MalekitGJ Or even FF5 when somebody important bites the dust.

@watertommyz 3 жыл бұрын

@@cmelton6796 You know, RPGs are indpired by true tabletop rpg's and the phoenix down is very similar to saving rolls, for when characters fall unconscious, and of course potential other factord that could save a character. I never thought of that till now lol

@pichongames 4 жыл бұрын

FFVII Fans: Cool theory People who are playing this game for the first time: WAIT WHAT

@JustCallMeFreya 4 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY

@BeansIMosin 4 жыл бұрын

I have no idea what this game is about but I know it's a rpg

@alex21091 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't played a single game lol, im so confused like wtf is this dog

@firefliesowlcity12 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I felt like this was in bad sprit l, even kinda mean. If someone managed to go all these years without being spoiled and bought the new game wanting to experience the FF7 story for themselves it sucks they get a major story like this from a random KZfaq video. (Especially because there is already a Game Theory episode on Aerith's death)

@gocheckhattiecattie6965 4 жыл бұрын

I've never played it

@SarahYTC 4 жыл бұрын

Who needs a "Phoenix Down" when you can cast "Raise"

@VJK102 4 жыл бұрын

Why cast "Arise" when you can cast "Rise from your grave!!!"

@calitz87 4 жыл бұрын

Be prepared and cast Reraise.

@yocats9974 4 жыл бұрын

@@VJK102 Why cast "Rise from your grave!!!" when you can cast "You're finally awake"

@kausdebonair 4 жыл бұрын

The magic spell formally known as "Life"

@unlimitedbadness9517 4 жыл бұрын

@@yocats9974 why cast You’re finally awake when u can cast resurrection

@xoxorockstar 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought that a character doesn’t “die” when they run out of HP. Instead they “fall unconscious ” and are unable to fight. That’s why a Phoenix down revived them. But in this case Aeris is actually dead so a Phoenix down won’t work

@creeperkinght1144 6 ай бұрын

it's no different to Pokemon's Revive

@julmor9997 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, MatPat, the original FF7 stated that when you used Summon Materia, you were summoning them from another dimension, so wouldn't it be better to say that the Phoenix doesn't have enough strength to properly revive them after teleporting to their dimension then teleporting back to its own?

@ranwolf1240 4 жыл бұрын

I'm more concerned about how Cloud carried her corpse to the middle of the lake with nothing to stand on

@patrickaycock3655 4 жыл бұрын

Underwater materia. Or maybe a jesus materia?

@cherrydragon3120 4 жыл бұрын

WITH THE POWER OF HOLY!!!

@moe583 4 жыл бұрын

Shallow Lake and dumped her near the cut off

@RedEyesBlackDragon0 4 жыл бұрын

In the event of a water burial, Cloud's forearms can be used as a flotation device.

@chronofantasy1987 4 жыл бұрын

With the magic called float.

@VGInterviews 4 жыл бұрын

"This 23 year old debate" *shows the roman numeral for 22*

@Varinz 4 жыл бұрын

Thought the same thing. Explain yourself Matty!

@campkira 4 жыл бұрын

stay in school not.. be youtuber...

@micahkeeler8595 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe you should stay in school...

@JEDonnert 4 жыл бұрын

@@campkira lol It would have been the editor.

@Josh-oc7ib 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, smart, i am not aware of roman numerals and their meaning.

@bltanti 4 жыл бұрын

The real mystery is why no one used Soft on Seto, even though it cures stone.

@StarNinja77 4 жыл бұрын

Eh, there are literally multiple spears sticking out of his stone body... Cure the stone and he would have a few moments of pure agony before true death took him. =/

@helmiazizm 4 жыл бұрын

@@StarNinja77 just get Nanaki or any of Cloud's gang to use Cure3 then

@narutardkyuubi 4 жыл бұрын

Err...the spear are still inside, and pretty deep. ‘Curing’ that would cause the spears to dig in deeper and cause even more pain

@shock019 4 жыл бұрын

@@StarNinja77 I mean I personally would prefer death to being turned to stone and being unable to move for all eternity.

@TankHunter678 4 жыл бұрын

It's most likely that he died in the moments before his body turned completely into stone. Using Soft on him in that state would just cause the corpse to collapse into a heap. In a sense leaving him stoned like that turns his own body into a memorial to his bravery to protect his kin and homeland.

@ski4567 4 жыл бұрын

FF7 theory: How the heck does Barrets gun arm work? And would it even be functional/practical/harmful in the real world?

@user-qf6li2wv4i 4 жыл бұрын

that's not it. here's the real problem: how Cait Sith work??? he's a stuffed animal (ultimania) and his big moogle is a robot, sooooooo... how? can Reeve create a new mind for non-living things (like full them with live I dunno) and controlling them when he wants to??? or he can control non-living things (but then he should do that like ALL the time and also have Bipolar disorder 'cause they seem so SO different with Cait)??? magic, you say? but if he owns some materia for that kind of things, TURKs would have taken it away long ago, because it is very useful, so I doubt it, wich leads us to a very strange result: Reeve can do magic without materia. like Cetra. 'cause you know only Cetra can cast magic without materia. lmao real mystery

@ski4567 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-qf6li2wv4i I'm pretty sure Cait Sith is just a remote controlled plush toy cat and moggle. Both the cat and moggle are toys that Reeve's can control with a stupendous range.

@user-qf6li2wv4i 4 жыл бұрын

@@ski4567 yeah, plush toy and not a robot! how???

@ski4567 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-qf6li2wv4i If you ever had a old toy robot when you were a young child that had a controller, same process. Cait Sith has a receiver inside with some kind of wiring and robotic insides covered in plush and fluff, this making him a toy/robot. Its not that wild thinking about it.

@user-qf6li2wv4i 4 жыл бұрын

@@ski4567 yeah it's probably this guide with 'staffed cat' thing that make me think of some strange theories...

@Callyn9x 4 жыл бұрын

Matpat: Says Omnislash about hitting the like button KH:CoM Cloud: "I'm about to ruin this mans career" does Cross Slash instead

@dylanconfer1116 4 жыл бұрын

I misread that as Omnissiah. I have been reading too many Warhammer books lately apparently.

@mikailnascimento2823 4 жыл бұрын

@@dylanconfer1116 I feel it brother, i know the feel

@konocinnamon-kun1584 4 жыл бұрын

@Fire Mast3r Padawan 2 GACHA HINJAKU HINJAKU! *freezes foe's legs*

@dylanconfer1116 4 жыл бұрын

@@mikailnascimento2823 Headbutt that subscribe button with your awakened god-plate to commune with its machine-spirit. Can you guess what book I'm reading?

@stefanm.734 4 жыл бұрын

RIP the 5 people that are playing through the game for the first time and had this show up in their recommended.

@GuildWars4Ever98 4 жыл бұрын

rip me i guess

@ummm385 4 жыл бұрын

Yup

@james1557 4 жыл бұрын

@spicedfudge 4 жыл бұрын

Stefan M. That was me I’m very sad now

@TheTimon64 4 жыл бұрын

The drawbacks of KZfaq sometimes....

@dodonooblord7074 4 жыл бұрын

3:50 "23 year old debate" Shows the Roman numerals for 22

@Vriel659 4 жыл бұрын

Final Fantasy fan here.

@dodonooblord7074 4 жыл бұрын

@@Vriel659 I am not a fan of final fantasy, I just know my Roman numerals

@somerandomkid7222 3 жыл бұрын

@@Vriel659 we got a dum dum here

@NidgeDFX 4 жыл бұрын

My jr high gf literally dumped me back in 97 because I was sad about aeris death.

@itlh6296 4 жыл бұрын

@vchrono9839 4 жыл бұрын

F MEGA

@aymnismail6991 4 жыл бұрын

@@vchrono9839 KAKYOIN

@stalinsoulz7872 4 жыл бұрын

How does it Feels Like Reliving it Again only in HD Cutscene?

@A_real_Ha_So 3 жыл бұрын

@C R I was guessing it's also because he was probably into Mariah Carey but your guess was as good as mine.

@the83rdtrombonist60 4 жыл бұрын

MatPat: "Was that all there was?" Everyone: "That's all there was." Anthem: "I was there, too." Everyone: "That's all there was."

@yo_its_rabbid 4 жыл бұрын

There was an exploit we did as kids that kept Aerith alive after she “died.” I remember her just not talking, but still sticking along for the fight. Good times.

@kharijordan6426 4 жыл бұрын

Nice

@dazigolding5814 4 жыл бұрын

Who needs Phoenix Downs when you can just break the game?

@Americansikkunt 4 жыл бұрын

Wait, really? As a kid, I heard a rumor that putting BackStreet Boys Millenium CD, Instead of Disc 3, would revive her after a dancing mini game...

@Torin2Sequel 4 жыл бұрын

Wasn't there a strange part in the game where she actually did have a single line she spoke to the party if you did that? I think it was up on the mountain with all the horrible snowstorm weather... But its been a long time so I could be remembering wrong.

@yo_its_rabbid 4 жыл бұрын

Cult Boy And I also heard that you could unlock Luigi in Super Mario 64 by somehow sliding an entire plate of pasta into the cartridge slot.

@intotheindievods8821 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine if you actually used the feather to scratch their nose so they sneeze, waking up.

@Alovon 4 жыл бұрын

Considering FF7 Remake's plot and reveals at the end, this video becomes sorta ironic. Expecting a theory on that one in a few months there Matt

@venerealmelon 4 жыл бұрын

How does the ending make it ironic?

@Alovon 4 жыл бұрын

@@venerealmelon SPOILERS FOR REMAKE Pretty much it's seems like Sephiroth wants Aerith to survive to prevent her from helping Holy from the Lifestream. He is goading Cloud to try to save her with the "Seven Seconds" comment

@VirtualShepherdOfficial 4 жыл бұрын

Palpatine replying to MatPat for FF8 theory: "Do it!"

@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын

DEW IT!

@sharilshahed6106 4 жыл бұрын

ironic. And now I realized I just quoted him.

@alejandrolievano5573 4 жыл бұрын

DII IT NOW!!

@shibba2517 4 жыл бұрын

I am the 66th thumb up

@W0lfenstrike 4 жыл бұрын

STEW IT!

@SciFactsYT118 4 жыл бұрын

Random fact: There are times when Pluto is closer to the Sun than Neptune - one of these timelines was from 1979 to 1999.

@cysner4619 4 жыл бұрын

SciFactsYT I didnt ask but thanks for the KNOWLEDGE

@pepperclaire7610 4 жыл бұрын

SciFactsYT .. huh I didn’t know that, how long does it stay close to the sun?

@cooletz028 4 жыл бұрын

SciFactsYT other random fact russia is bigger than pluto in land mass

@estewart7395 4 жыл бұрын

@the83rdtrombonist60 4 жыл бұрын

And that's why Pluto is a dwarf planet.

@dotsya 4 жыл бұрын

I remember playing FF9 when I was 12. Grinded to level 99 and easily dispatched all the enemies with Zidane, but at a certain part of the game, he kept walking like he was worn out. That's when the game basically said that only through the power of friendship and teamwork can you succeed. It was at that moment where I started to slowly hate certain jrpg formulas.

@Coreisus 3 жыл бұрын

Fair. Feel that. Total immersion breaker there.

@lisat7878 4 жыл бұрын

Im "down" for some FF8 theories. Can't wait to see em!

@user-vl7jd1kf4f 4 жыл бұрын

Can we skip eight and go straight to FF9? There was some seriously weird shiz up in that nest.

@ripple3767 4 жыл бұрын

FF8 Is my Favorite Game of All time, And It is Older than I am, I would LOVE to see some FF8 Theories.

@inkstain3562 4 жыл бұрын

Oh nooooo 😂

@mysteryshadow5m439 4 жыл бұрын

Me too

@ripple3767 4 жыл бұрын

@@mysteryshadow5m439 Gamer Respect

@harmonicconvergence1860 4 жыл бұрын

Final Fantsy 5 had a scene with a character death; one of the deceased's loved ones used curative magic, life magic, _and_ revive items to no effect. Aerith's death was two games late to the evidence that phoenix downs are more of a knock-out recovery item than a death recovery item.

@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын

Still I hope they expand this scene with similar scenario, so people wouldn't be confused why they did nothing. I also suspect that if Sephiroth infected her with Jenova, it could cause serious shock to Cetra. We do know that both don't mix too well (eghm... Cloud).

@TheKrossRoads 4 жыл бұрын

As someone mentioned on a similar comment: FF5 actually came out AFTER FF7 outside Japan. Even then, the series was pretty niche until 7 came out, bringing it to the mainstream.

@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheKrossRoads FFIV and FFVI were relatively well known. At least until you consider SNES as obscure in general.

@Dat_DekuBoi 4 жыл бұрын

Although in XII there is a status effect called Doom but you could use a Phoenix Down to revive them

@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dat_DekuBoi It is in majority of the games.

@silvertayuun 4 жыл бұрын

3:52 “put an end to this 23 year old debate” ... Only has 22 in Roman numerals 😅

@AzaliahE 4 жыл бұрын

Thought I was the only one hahahaa

@FlowerMama23 4 жыл бұрын

I saw it too xD

@silentoccasion4359 4 жыл бұрын

r/facepalm

@loankabby3548 3 жыл бұрын

In FFV when one of the characters died, the party around them tried to use Life 3, Phoenix Down, and Raise spells. That leads credence to your theory of needing something more powerful to actually bring back the dead. In final fantasy six one character brought a rare Phoenix something item to Rachel that revived her back from the dead but only for a short time before passing on again.

@thienphucn1 4 жыл бұрын

FF7 Remake: the character just fell unconscious when there HP reaches 0

@Hermes-ww9uc 4 жыл бұрын

3:50 Matpat:"I'm going to put an end t this 23 year old debate." Also Matpat: XXII which is 22 in roman numerals.

@mrmesterioussss2262 4 жыл бұрын

To*

@jackwheeler5181 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too.

@MrSkysenGames 4 жыл бұрын

All this even though everyone knows that deaths outside of battles are permanent. Rule of gaming. Get crushed to death by Emerald Weapon? Toss them a Down and they're fine. Leave your village and come back to everyone dead? Not working.

@c0rr0s10n 4 жыл бұрын

what is considered a battle? technically its as if sephiroth did a surprise battle called: back attack, but her hp was not high enough to survive a single hit. she was the sole party member so its game over for her. oh god...that's why she died. i hate that i figured this out.

@MrSkysenGames 4 жыл бұрын

A battle is that thing where the screen changes and you get the attack menus. She was in a cutscene, which is a horrible place for a character to be if they don't want to die or be gravely injured. Heck, she could have been wounded on the map - even run through - and still had a 50/50 chance, considering Cloud was skewered in his flashbacks. Had she gotten a game over, she could have reloaded her save and caught up with everyone.

@beebajazz 4 жыл бұрын

Final Fantasy 4 disagrees

@MrSkysenGames 4 жыл бұрын

Been too long since I played FFIV. Refresh my memory.

@beebajazz 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSkysenGames most of the cast of ff4 "dies" out of battle, but is found to have survived later. A notable exception is Tellah, who dies... After overexerting in battle reducing his own HP to 0. They even attempt life spells and phoenix downs on him.

@JRokujuushi 4 жыл бұрын

I'm down for some FF8 theories. Kinda want to see your take on the FF7 Remake, too.

@creeperkinght1144 6 ай бұрын

I want to see him discuss the theory how Squall might be dead due to Ultimecia's demise, and how she might be Squall's girlfriend.

@McFlurry148 4 жыл бұрын

When Aerith died, a part of my soul died as well....

@TristanandIsolt 2 жыл бұрын

24 years ago and still painful as hell.

@thesound-chameleonman3580 2 жыл бұрын

Cloud accidentally drowns her. She was still possibly still alive before if paralysed but alive.

@minirock4858 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, HP0 doesn't equal death and don't think it's a kind of "family-friendly" feature (just look at the quite mature themes FF games are known for...). Actually this comes from tabletop RPGs. You know, actual paper character sheets, dice rolls, and more of an adventure than just door-monster-loot where you actually have to think of the consequences of your choices and where death is PERMANENT? Anyway, in Dungeons & Dragons, HP0 didn't mean death. It meant the character was unconscious and in a critical state: they would gradually lose HP overtime if not stabilized by a fellow character with first-aid knowledge under the condition of a success roll. Ennemy could also still attack a character with HP0. You guessed it: your HP could go into negative. Death occured when a character had negative max HP. Let's say you have 16HP. You fall down to 0 -> unconsciousness and critical state, you can't do or say anything and you can't heal yourself. If not stabilized you would lose 1HP each turn. And also take full damage if attacked. Fall down to -16HP means you're dead. And back then, only if you had a very high level priest or paladin in your team could you have a chance of revival. When you die in D&D, you tear your character sheet apart, there's no coming back after a night at the local INN.

@Sawtooth44 4 жыл бұрын

although now days in D&D you dont have to drop to -max HP to die just fail 3 death saves BUT if a creature can deal enough damage to you to ether -max hp or twice that you die INSTANTLY

@asrieldreemurr1988 4 жыл бұрын

No they changed now if your stable you have to make a con saving throw if it’s above ten you save if not you don’t if you make it three times your stable and nothing happens if you fail three times you die you Also still die if negative damage goes over your health

@AsboXFlemzo 4 жыл бұрын

yeh i was gonna say it but you did it better its DnD rules

@mollymauktealeaf 4 жыл бұрын

@@asrieldreemurr1988 Death saves aren't con saves, they're just a straight d20.

@sleepy990 4 жыл бұрын

0Hp does really mean that you are just knocked out. Except when you’re the persona 3, 4, or 5 protagonist. In those three games, if your hp reaches 0 you do die.

@cloudy_cake1815 4 жыл бұрын

“Us gamers are lucky” Matpat -April 11 2020

@akali_irl 4 жыл бұрын

my sweet 16 :)

@WingZX1103 4 жыл бұрын

Its has been a good year for gamers

@XtremeLWC 3 жыл бұрын

Matpat PLEASE do a theory on the FF7 remake now that it’s out, there’s so much theorizing material in it and I want to hear your thoughts on the game please make it

@noctstrife 3 жыл бұрын

Right!

@A_real_Ha_So 3 жыл бұрын

The thing that had me thinking there was a way to bring her back was the fact that you could buy her advanced weapons as the game advanced. I mean when has that happened before?

@deepmind5318 3 жыл бұрын

If you check the developer reports on the game's development, there's a part that describes that Aerith was actually never supposed to die, it was late in development when they decided that Aerith was going to die. Meaning, they had items planned for her that went ultimately unused, but there probably was no time to elimate all evidence, again, showing that they changed plans way too late in development. Dataminers also uncovered lines of dialogue that would have been used, of her reacting to things after her passing.

@sakura1044 2 жыл бұрын

Tifa was added late in development, though. She was only added after Aerith's death was decided.

@morganleedom6291 4 жыл бұрын

Game: exists Matt Patt: *WAIT THATS ILLEGAL*

@DogPerson626 4 жыл бұрын

*matpat

@SDPhantomGamer 4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Materia literally is crystallized energy made from the souls of the dead, aka the Lifestream.

@GoldieTamamo 4 жыл бұрын

It contains the memories and experiences of the dead, in fact--which is how it imparts its powers to the wearer.

@SDPhantomGamer 4 жыл бұрын

@@GoldieTamamo I was pointing out the process in how it's created, not what defines the magic contained within them. It's explained in one of the cutscenes, I forgot which ones. Mako is made from condensing the Lifestream into a liquid state, Materia is formed when condensed further into a solid. I'm pretty sure it was Sephiroth that said this.

@mrj5256 4 жыл бұрын

@ValorJ Omega I want to say it was in Crisis Core that you get a cut scene showing a naturally formed materia.. Theres a tree near a mako stream that forms one ever X years and you got "lucky" enough to be there during its completion..

@SDPhantomGamer 4 жыл бұрын

@@mrj5256 I'm going to say it was Sephiroth describing how the condensers at the Nibelheim reactor are supposed to work before looking into one of them and finding Hojo's experiment. There is the naturally-formed materia in Crisis Core, but I don't remember there being an explanation there.

@vulpinedeity3379 4 жыл бұрын

The naturally-occurring mako fountain and materia exist in both the orignal game and crisis core, as does the explanation.

@EclipseHighroller 3 жыл бұрын

Random fact: Cloud killed Aerith, not Sephiroth. She was still alive after being stabbed as his sword missed any vital organ. But it did clip her spine, making her paralyzed. Meaning she couldn’t move. So when cloud set her in the water, she was still alive, until she sank and drowned. Cloud killed Aerith

@qittikat 3 жыл бұрын

🤭

@shadowstriker6506 3 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t that a different game theory episode?

@EclipseHighroller 3 жыл бұрын

@@shadowstriker6506 maybe? I remember it from years ago, so it’s possible

@paparaiski 4 жыл бұрын

In final fantasy 6, Locke seek and found the Phoenix magicite to revive his dead girlfriend but still failed. Phoenix down is only effective for a fainted character, its like ammonia you can buy in generic pharmacy. 🤣

@ckinggaming5bucketmadness766 4 жыл бұрын

“Good time to be a gamer” Gamers who still get schoolwork anyway:NOOOO

@sabribeser2268 4 жыл бұрын

Everyone:Doom eternal animal, crossing final,fantasy remake this year is AWWSOOMMEEEE Me:POOOSSSTTAAAAALLLL 4

@tad_tao 4 жыл бұрын

Gamers who lost their jobs due to pandemic: :')

@Jacky.c.v 4 жыл бұрын

magnificentadao Sameee

@captainarmageddon882 4 жыл бұрын

You should do a theory on a game called “don’t starve together”. It’s a great game and the lore is very confusing.

@Phi_Lix 4 жыл бұрын

Captain Armageddon I’m sure he has or at least mentioned it briefly.

@rickbill06 4 жыл бұрын

@Phi_Lix 4 жыл бұрын

TRGA randomic ?

@mateolucapiagarbarino7888 4 жыл бұрын

Yeees that would be awesome

@rickbill06 4 жыл бұрын

U say up for up the comentary is good when u dont have a good think to talk and u want to that comentary go up

@shadowstriker6506 3 жыл бұрын

*look nervously at 9 year old FFVII video* I guess if a Phoenix down just wakes you up it’ll be hard to actually *GET* up if your paralyzed...

@Yesterdaysmaybe 4 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: Did you know that Tifa was created to die? In the original script, the creators wanted someone close to Cloud and the group to die to give them all personal motivation to go after Sephiroth. Initially that was going to be Tifa. However, it was later decided that Aerith should be the one because as the last ancient and the most innocent of the group, the creators thought her death would have the bigger impact. So in the final draft Tifa and Aerith's roles were swapped and Aerith is the one who got the axe. ( Or sword.)

@aidanb6882 4 жыл бұрын

Phoenix down: [revives one party member] Aerith: *"that's where you're wrong kiddo"*

@Outofcontexst 4 жыл бұрын

@d.nightone5673 4 жыл бұрын

Another Proof that 0 HP doesn't mean dead is the fact that in a lot of installments the the character will stand up with 1 HP once the battle is over. - it´s the same in the new VII REMAKE, Oh AND YES PLEASE SOME FF VIII Theories!!

@tohtoriTurvotus 4 жыл бұрын

In Final Fantasy, characters are not really "killed" during combat, they are just knocked out, "unable to fight" or "disabled". Some games even clearly state that Phoenix Down is used to "revive" UNCONSCIOUS characters. If all characters are unable to fight, then your party is "wiped out" (dead) because everyone is unconscious and unable to stop the enemies from actually killing them.

@wanderingghost6841 4 жыл бұрын

D. Nightone True, when Aireth reaches 0 hp in the remake, sometimes she said “ I'm gonna rest for a while” and as for Cloud “I can't move” soo that doesn't mean they are really dead, just unconscious.

@attackbrains2095 4 жыл бұрын

Wandering Ghost when someone is downed in the remake, it says “(name) is unconcious”

@thegreatandmightyseff7214 4 жыл бұрын

In final fantasy 6, if someone goes to 0 hp the just get “wounded

@thegreatandmightyseff7214 4 жыл бұрын

all the ffs are on different worlds in the same universe so maybe on the ff7 world pheonix downs are manufactured differently than in the ff3 world

@markedeagle2357 4 жыл бұрын

Me about to about to play ff7 remake: *scrolling through KZfaq* Game theory: Aerith dies Me:

@vergil_6707 4 жыл бұрын

dude its a really old game and its VERY popular

@Withered741 4 жыл бұрын

@@vergil_6707 Exactly, its so old there's a new generation of people who haven't played the original. People who know nothing about the game and want to come in blind. Whether or not Aerith truely dies doesn't matter because they'll think she will and try not to get attached to her.

@AglaeJuarez 4 жыл бұрын

same happened here :'c

@markedeagle2357 4 жыл бұрын

@@Withered741 ^

@A_Tatsunoko 4 жыл бұрын

Aglae Juarez same

@justineberlein5916 3 жыл бұрын

Adding to the proof is Galuf's death in FF5 (the best game). He keeps on fighting Exdeath while at 0 hp so the rest of the party has a chance to escape, and very definitely dies afterward.

@shaesullivan 4 жыл бұрын

The irony here is that, MattPat thought more about Aerith's death than Nomura did. XD

@tyronetiggums6441 4 жыл бұрын

Except that in FF5 they already established that Phoenix Downs can't revive a person if they're fatally wounded (a party member dies and the rest tries everything to save him: Curaga, Life spell, Phoenix Down, and Elixir to no effect). Only reason there's even a debacle on the matter is because the West didn't receive FF5 until after FF7 and even then the ways to play it through official channels are very limited.

@TheRezro 4 жыл бұрын

@@tyronetiggums6441 Still I hope that they clarify that in the remake. Simplest solution would be that Sephiroth infected her, making her revive impossible.

@Redcrimson177 4 жыл бұрын

FF8 Theory: Could you fire your dog at your enemies like an exploding crossbow bolt

@cxalesce 4 жыл бұрын

@Liam Walker Rinoa from FF8 has an ability called Angelo Cannon, where she fires her dog Angelo at enemies.

@Xentrolis 4 жыл бұрын

Another angle to take this is the fact that the cinematic portion of the game is canon in terms of the story, whereas gameplay is not. So when a character dies in battle, it didn't really happen from a story perspective. It also explains why you never see anyone use phoenix downs in cut scenes.

@vogonp4287 3 жыл бұрын

The interesting thing about the Aerith not being dead theory is that we actually see Cloud survive a similar Sephiroth sword incident.

@lynararosewater923 4 жыл бұрын

Still doesn't explain why we cant use a Soft to revive Red's father. Poor guy...

@jessinoan 4 жыл бұрын

Lynnara Rosewater THIS. Haunts me still.

@catnat6571 4 жыл бұрын

Nah, we need a supersoft

@wakaitsu 4 жыл бұрын

Because he was in stone for too long and using Soft on him would just make a statue into a rotten corpse. It is actualy explained rather clearly in the game itself, as Seto wasn't just petrified, he was also poisoned, and if you happen to get petri and poison in any regular fight, you'd know that petrification doesn't stop poison from chunking out you HP.

@MoonDisast 4 жыл бұрын

@@catnat6571 No. We needed... A Square Soft.

@FilmAcolyteReturns 4 жыл бұрын

Because the plot says it can’t. It’s like in the Mass Effect games where your shield doesn’t work in the cutscenes.

@QuantumPolagnus 4 жыл бұрын

FF8 theory: how do you get one of those hot dogs at Balamb Garden before they sell out?!

@Prizzlesticks 4 жыл бұрын

You gotta save the world, that's the only way.

@DB-su4ke 4 жыл бұрын

THESE ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS

@DemonEyeXGamer 4 жыл бұрын

Hey MatPat, I know you just covered FF7 again and you want to do 8, but heres one that would work as a two party for both Game and Film Theory. The three whispers(Rubrum, Croceo and Viridi) summoned at the end are Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo. I'll let you do your own research on that because I find it to be an intriguing theory and dont want to put thoughts in your head about how that works out.

@solego5504 4 жыл бұрын

I could go for some FF8 theories. I always really enjoyed the game, even if I have to admit the story was more twisted than an M Night Shamalan fever dream.

@cybercoven6502 4 жыл бұрын

I still remember Matt's theory of cloud killing aeirth's by accidentally drowning her

@murakumo65 4 жыл бұрын

yes...accidentally

@waluigi7331 4 жыл бұрын

lol

@JiroTheFro 4 жыл бұрын

Same

@cockatielsrule1300 4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about that theory when the episode first started. XD

@churrbumlion 4 жыл бұрын

cockatielsrule1300 right same funny thing is his theory now would debunk his old theory

@LadyAneh 4 жыл бұрын

I’d say because when you “die” in a FF battle, it’s a knockout, not actual death. Edit: Think of phoenix down as a magical substitute for being treated in an emergency room. If you can’t be saved by conventional medicine because your injuries are too critical, phoenix down won’t work either.

@rogueprince1341 4 жыл бұрын

Thats what I've always thought

@AzhreiVep 4 жыл бұрын

That is generally what KO stands for, yeah.

@LadyAneh 4 жыл бұрын

Azhrei Vep No, really? 🙄

@reyonXIII 4 жыл бұрын

Think of it as like in tabletop games, when your HP hits zero, but you're not treated as "dead" yet, though in that case, its coz of death saving rolls. You're not dead, but you're in mortal danger. FF Tactics addresses that better, frankly, but it's waived in others games for convenience's sake. And really, Final Fantasy V already addressed that, so people arguing for her revival with a Phoenix Down or Life spell don't know what they're talking about, when those failed to work on a character that actually dies.

@mario_maniac9368 4 жыл бұрын

Yes thank you people need to realize that in rpg like ff or Pokémon they faint or knocked unconscious

@Yonah_144 8 ай бұрын

When I first played this game as a kid, I thought the real reason Cloud did not use a Phoenix Down on Aerith was because it had something to do with her stopping Sephiroth from using Meteor. I never followed the "KO" analogy, because that seemed more of a gameplay thing than the story. In the story, a person becomes more powerful when their energy fuses with the planet, because they know more of the truth. This is why Sephiroth summoned Meteor in the first place, because the amount of damage caused would make him a god.

@LtCdrXander 4 жыл бұрын

You can just use Yuffie warping to bring Aerith back. In the PC version, if you get a game over during the Jenova fight after Aerith dies, if you go to your last save with Aerith in the party and try to get Yuffie in the forests, it will warp you to the spot you got your last game over; in this case, the Jenova fight after Aerith dies. However this time you would still have Aerith in your party and could use her for the rest of the game. None of the dialogue or anything else changes, so the others still act like she's dead.

@ThatArwing 4 жыл бұрын

Matpat: Why did Aerith have to die? Yuffie warp glitch: She didn't Everyone: What Yuffie warp glitch: What

@tysondennis1016 4 жыл бұрын

No one: Aerith: Oh look at that, I’ve been impaled. And Aerith dying was bad. But Super Smash Bros Genocide gave me PTSD.

@juliusbryanbulawan6710 4 жыл бұрын

You forgot the Olaf laugh hahaha

@deadheat1635 3 жыл бұрын

Well luckily Sephiroth came in and prevented that from happening...so he can impale more people.

@deb.r.h. 3 жыл бұрын

I love this. I wrote a whole blog post about Rinoa being Ultimecia, so I'll be looking for FFVIII theories!

@Henry_NYC 4 жыл бұрын

Simple answer: Phoenix down wakes someone who is unconscious, not a resurrection

@mordtavvis3360 4 жыл бұрын

That's the official answer as well

@KirbyIsLife 4 жыл бұрын

This man just solved all our problems

@shinobidaniel_12 4 жыл бұрын

This is the worst truth i have ever seen

@InGreatPainIAm 4 жыл бұрын

Still confused, apparently getting stabbed just means your unconscious ... huh

@delicateghoul 4 жыл бұрын

@@InGreatPainIAm no, what they mean is getting stabbed IS WORSE than being unconscious and thus a phoenix down isn't enough to save her

@DoctorTalon 4 жыл бұрын

Supporting KO vs Death: Final Fantasy V, the group tried to use the Phoenix Down to revive Galuf only to fail.

@DJ_Birdman 4 жыл бұрын

this is also true!

@cheesybreezy4433 4 жыл бұрын

Boom

@JuanXM 4 жыл бұрын

Well that would have made the theory 30 seconds long haha... And not a theory

@DarnocTechCH 4 жыл бұрын

She didn't died, she finished casting holy before Sepharoth stabbed. The real question is : what is exactly holy material do? I think it make the user "be one with the force/force ghost". In this case, one with the planet/lifestream. She gave up her physical body to be one with the planet. So technically her spirit still alive?

@Michael-yf6bl 3 жыл бұрын

0:28 ok I've only played kingdom hearts but from the little I've heard of isn't this like 90% of the plot in final fantasy

@benjimaxbobjohn 3 жыл бұрын

Final Fantasy 7? Yeah. The rest? No.

@Darkwolf425 4 жыл бұрын

FF6 also confirms this as well "Locke hears a legend of the legendary esper Phoenix said to revive the dead. He wants to use it on Rachel and heads for the Phoenix Cave where the rest of the party locates him and invites him to Kohlingen. Locke uses the esper to revive Rachel who tells him to stop feeling guilty. She dies again, restoring Phoenix to life. Locke, exculpated, joins Celes and the others to fight Kefka."

@adamestrada7610 4 жыл бұрын

FF fans: mourns and questions Aerith's death for years. Galuf: *Am I a joke to you?!*

@elguno6398 4 жыл бұрын

Man poor Galuf. Even the characters tried to revive him

@DeskoDev 4 жыл бұрын

@@elguno6398 This is one of the reasons why I find Galuf's death so emotional compared to Aerith. They didn't even bother trying to revive her whereas all of the main characters and HIS OWN GRANDDAUGHTER in V did everything they could to try to save him yet even stuff like Phoenix Downs wouldn't work.

@nunotorres6314 4 жыл бұрын

Rest in peace Galuf

@ariaofthe6strings230 4 жыл бұрын

@@DeskoDev HIS LITTLE GIRL USING MULTIPLE HEALING MAGIC TO HEAL HIM WAS SO HEARTBREAKING!!! 😭😭😭😭 I actually cried my eyes out when he died against Exdeath. I legit had to stop playing for a day or 2. Or 3... or a week...

@mrowo1224 4 жыл бұрын

V was my first ff game and i still get sad about his death RIP

@TeamThunderStar 4 жыл бұрын

Final Fantasy VIII is my favorite, I'd love to see some theories on that one!

@sorangar5723 4 жыл бұрын

Matpat: TELL ME IF YOU want FF8 THEORIES!!! Me: Do final fantasy 9 Matpat: I'VE GOT 2 THEORIES ALL READY TO G- Me: Final. Fantasy. 9.

@theAhrBee 4 жыл бұрын

Final. Fantasy. IX.

@Grafonmaru 4 жыл бұрын

Aerith's death didn't get me nearly as badly as Red Xiii finding out his father did not abandon the village. We couldn't use soft on him either!

@Hoontor 4 жыл бұрын

Thats because soft has to be administered ASAP to prevent any permanent damage, Sato sadly was a statue for far too long.

@cherrydragon3120 4 жыл бұрын

i mean… why would you think soft would work on someone who's been turned to stone YEARS ago? obviously he would be dead by the time redXIII even gets there. due to malnutrition and thirst. whats inside that layer of magic stone is a dead rotten corpse. ofcourse soft doesn't work then anymore.

@williamstark9568 4 жыл бұрын

@@cherrydragon3120 Sato's statue cried though.

@ArcaneEther 4 жыл бұрын

If you're willing to accept evidence from outside FF7, in FF9 the character Blank is petrified early on in the game. To cure him, a special "Super Soft" has to be obtained much, much later in the plot. This suggests that either the ordinary Soft only works on the *_recently_* petrified or that petrification exists in multiple degrees and that Softs only cure the lower tiers of the ailment. As far as we know, "Super Soft" doesn't exist in FF7's world.

@DJ_Birdman 4 жыл бұрын

@@ArcaneEther That and also the fact that Seto /Willingly/ wanted to stay petrified to become a "living" monument to protect his family's home from whatever force was going to destroy it. so while yes even though his body is still petrified, the soul still resides in that rock; unknown to whatever has happened on the planet. But the sheer force of Red-XII's sadness and regret reached the soul of Seto and thus, creating the tear. so even if they could, i dont think Seto would become un-petrified.

@jIguess 4 жыл бұрын

*Should we use a Phoenix down?* Nah I’m sure she’ll be okay

@LovelyLina034 4 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that this game came out exactly a year before i was born and I was so interested in this game (not just on that fact alone, the story is great the characters all were relatable and understandable and it deserved its rightful remastered just like FFX)

@nepzski Жыл бұрын

i hate falling asleep watching game theory because i stay up at night thinking about more theories but i fell asleep snug as a bug in a rug

@daniellestehbens5942 4 жыл бұрын

(Disclaimer: can’t remember where I read this) Most Materia is made when parts of the Life Stream crystallises and forms the orb. That’s why you can just randomly find Materia in the world. It just formed. And as anyone who played the games know the Life Stream is made up of the souls who died. So it would make sense that the summons could have had their Materia form that way. I started to believe it didn’t actually bring people back from the dead when I played FF15. Because when you use a Phoenix down, it’s the “Dead” characters themselves who roll onto their back or whatever to use the Phoenix Down.

@KigaiOkasu 4 жыл бұрын

I remember Nomura saying in an Advent Children behind the scenes clip that Materia is made from the memories in the Lifestream. In the Before Crisis mobile game, you supposedly could take pictures with your phone camera and turn it into Materia, so not all Materia is naturally occuring.

@Deexeh 4 жыл бұрын

You could even look at Final Fantasy 7. When the Pheonix dies later in the game, you see the Baby Pheonix and the Materia come out of it.

@jaxsonbateman 4 жыл бұрын

You probably read it in game. Hojo describes how materia is formed in the Nibelheim flashbacks in Kalm town, when you come across a natural materia in the Nibel mountains. Really though, the revive from KO thing seems pretty obvious, at least to me - I didn't even really think about it until I actually saw this question asked like 15-20 years ago, but honestly, Occam's Razor - what's the most likely reason people aren't using Phoenix Downs left, right and centre to revive any person that dies? Because it doesn't revive the dead.

@Axioanarchist 4 жыл бұрын

Id be up for some 8 theories. And there's a 9 theory I've been wondering for years: With the technology and knowledge level shown in the game, should the people of Gaia in ff9 have been able to deduce that Terra existed? Its always something i thought rather odd that it was there and its effects on the world so visible but no one knew at all about it until Kuja showed up. If the Gaians had been more primitive and medieval I would have understood, but they have advanced steam- and magical tech and a highly educated populace. Would be highly interested in the thoughts of the theorists.

@LadyLunarPhoenix 4 жыл бұрын

Well they 'knew' Terra existed. Its just that Terra itself is a Moon sized Moon shaped Ship that took up orbit around the planet. No one had the tech to travel space to it in order to investigate, so they just assumed it a second moon. Its the same in Four, the Moon was a large space ship that arrived at the primitive world and just stayed there waiting until Blue Planets' civilization had advanced enough so they could meet. In 9's case, the purpose is more sinister. The Terrians are hiding there waiting for all the Gaians to die out so they can take over the planet. They don't want to people to know they exist. Their souls are sleeping inside the that moon and the Geonomes exist as soul jar vessels for them to possess when its time to leave.

@Prizzlesticks 4 жыл бұрын

For the IX theory, ask yourself this. If someone said another planet's spiritual core had essentially taken over the Earth's, and here was some vague evidence of that, would you believe them?

@F1rstWorldNomaD 4 жыл бұрын

FF9 is a classic steam punk/medieval fantasy... You should think of it as medieval but with steam tech. Education levels of the average person would not be that incredible. Also they knew it existed, but if I remember correctly they just thought of it as a moon. A common theme of Gaia and Terra in games and anime is that they're polar opposite mirror worlds (basically Jin/Yang but in an astrological setting). The population of both thinking the other is a moon.

@thesmashdancers105 3 жыл бұрын

I do hope he covers what's up with the Final Fantasy 7 remake. Especially how Aerith even came back or seemed to know what was happening in this timeline..

@izu9742 4 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda upset I get spoil alerted :(

@KittyLitterYT 4 жыл бұрын

Do a theory about how all the chocobos represent cloud's dead family as he slowly dies in a coma I say that as a joke, but it's exactly the sort of soul-crushing stuff you manage to prove

@Befernfard0fo 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to hear a theory on why at the end of ff8 they show a frame where Squall's face is a hole!

@lanmetal 4 жыл бұрын

Ah, the "Squall is dead" theory. Hadn't read about that one in a while. Brings back so many memories.

@phildragonbleu 4 жыл бұрын

that was just a prank to scare people. In the real ending, he just stares at the sky then fall after seeing the broken space helmet.

@albert3ization 4 жыл бұрын

Squall became more "open minded"

@XxXxXJerseyKidXxXxX 4 жыл бұрын

I rlly do believe it was squalls death that we were witnessing at the end. Even though the writers said it themselves that it wasnt dead, the theory is so eerily on point it would be ridiculous to think otherwise. The ending itself was a whoke life flashing before your eyes and it was mostly all cgis from disc 1. At the end of disc 1 when Edea impales squall with a large ice through his heart, you gotta ask yourself why is it you that you wake up in the next disc in a prison w/o any wounds or at least a scar?

@albert3ization 4 жыл бұрын

@@XxXxXJerseyKidXxXxX The ice impalement was not in his heart, When I played it. it was on the wrong side. but his HP 0 he was unconscious. I don't think so, he his main character. I don't know any other main characters that dies. Specially when they are the one you play has. The ending doesn't make much sense to me, but I am not that far. So I don't have any idea. But its odd that the other group doesn't jump in to help out the fight.

@stephenvangorden812 4 жыл бұрын

I like how the man that has discovered so much through his theory, yet he puts the cartoon heart on the wrong side of his body. The 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@stephenvangorden812 4 жыл бұрын

The shouldn't exist...

@LordFoxxyFoxington 4 жыл бұрын

It's in the lore that Sephiroths sword negates any possible phoenix downs or phoenix summons or resurrection spells.

@tinpan6052 4 жыл бұрын

Because if you did revive her the sword would still be stuck in them and they would scream in Pain and die over and over again;)

@ChronoMoth 4 жыл бұрын

ey reference to that oney cartoon

@glonkerdonker132 4 жыл бұрын

Here before its pinned

@0XBlondie96X0 4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't you remove the sword

@couldntthinkofaname2403 4 жыл бұрын

Your local vault 13 Deathclaw take the mf sword out then revive

@estewart7395 4 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 4 жыл бұрын

12:20 FF5 haas the same thing you summon deceased creatures as summons. Two of them actually are confirmed to be dead the hydra and the Phoenix. The hydra appears as a ghost and the Phoenix kills itself for you in a extremely sad cutscene that still gets to me. Funnily enough the Phoenix and the hydra were dragons of the sisters in your party.

@ryanwilliams3111 4 жыл бұрын

The day after i got the original(my first time playing any ff) you released this video and i was spoiled about Aerith’s fate. I know you had to put it in the title and i also heard from other places as I read more about the game so i’m not really mad. Also glad i didn’t put her in my party.

@protocolz954 4 жыл бұрын

But the pheonix down in final Fantasy xv cost a lot of gils...

@timewarrior7298 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta be honest matpat, killing Aerith right in front of my eyes again is traumatizing and wish to not relive it again.

@michaelwilson5114 4 жыл бұрын

Have a feeling that with the better character development, especially with one certain person, in the remake - I'm gonna get scarred again. T_T

@boney2982 4 жыл бұрын

Yaaaay more depression

@campkira 4 жыл бұрын

you don't know aerith is around when fight last boss...in remake..

@SwordlordRoy 4 жыл бұрын

"Why wouldn't Phoenix Down work?" -Recalls old theory, 'She wasn't dead, just paralyzed until Cloud drowned her' "Unless she wasn't dead, which is an old theory of mine..." - 'called it'

@VoidCron 4 жыл бұрын

Dead bodies dont drown... they float....

@MckaysProductions 4 жыл бұрын

@@VoidCron ....Initially, bodies will likely sink to the bottom, but as bodies decompose and gasses are released in the body, the corpse will rise back to the surface as a result of buoyancy.

@VoidCron 4 жыл бұрын

Just a saying bud

@MckaysProductions 4 жыл бұрын

@@VoidCron It really isn't.

@VoidCron 4 жыл бұрын

Heard it somewhere, thanks for the science though. I can definitely use that one of these days. No sarcasm intended

@NeoLagna 4 жыл бұрын

Every single theroy on final fantasy 8 you got, I'll watch. Out of every final fantasy, 8s characters were the ones that inspired me to be heroic every day, not just act it when it was convient.

@allister1420 3 жыл бұрын

I definitely want more Final Fantasy theories.

@happycamperds9917 4 жыл бұрын

I think they hint in the remake that they are “just knocked out.” This just brings up your old Batman episode, but whatever.

@supervegito2277 4 жыл бұрын

Some are... but others vanish into green mist (Lifestream?)

@tymemaster 4 жыл бұрын

Thats how its always been ko is the status that phoenix down and raise heals

@Lady_Devilman 4 жыл бұрын

Let's talk about why the GF's live in the minds if the characters from ff8 that cause them to lose thier memories. That has bugged my for years. The GF's have lived on their own in temples/ruins or a living on other creatures that can be stolen, but yet they live in the minds of the main characters?

@Sorciechan 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think they explain it too well in the game, but I always assumed that, in the place of a catalyst, like materia and magicite, FF8's world had SeeDs use their own mind, instead. Doesn't really explain why, tho. The world was in a war with sorceresses, so maybe the GF system is a half-baked attempt at recreating a sorceress' power without realizing that for normal people, you can't just summon them without a price (or, maybe the price was always there and that would partly explain why some sorceresses go mad with power)? Also, I think the losing memories thing was being pushed into being a rumor by the government (think they claimed only a few experienced it), that's why Selphie was making videos of everyone near the end, just in case. Don't take my word for it, tho. I'm basing this on the memory of 13 yr old me and it's been a while since I played.

@zackfair6203 4 жыл бұрын

2:51 so true about Supernova 🤣

@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 4 жыл бұрын

I just figure that the better explanation is that it DOES revive the dead or very nearly dead, it just doesn't heal the injuries very well. This works if you assume that every injury in other fights is just less severe than a full spinal impalement, which shouldn't be too much of a stretch. It could revive her but she's still got a massive hole in her chest and her spine has been severed, at the very least, she isn't fighting any more and is probably paralyzed. More likely, she's paralyzed pretty high up and is likely barely, if at all, able to breathe much less speak. Leaving her dead is probably more of a mercy than trying to bring her back.

@ozoneinacone 4 жыл бұрын

Mat Pat: "If YoU HAvE a SparE LIveR aROunD To AfoRD iT" Me: 'looks at table' *knew this would come in handy*

@themostbritishpersonalive868 4 жыл бұрын

What

@baitthewhoosh5739 4 жыл бұрын

*Hol up*

@pixelflamex7603 4 жыл бұрын

@@baitthewhoosh5739 yeah theres a problem How didnt the liver rot if you didnt keep it frozen ?

@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын

JonTron: "I have several questions!"

@AbsoluteRatBastard 4 жыл бұрын

GIVE MY BACK MY LIVER, DUDE!

@PlayrR3D156 4 жыл бұрын

6:56 He's technically correct because suffering from chaos is a real thing in Final Fantasy.

@Jackm4Boris 3 жыл бұрын

When he was talking about the KO and how it's not dead, all i could think about was Miracle Max in Princess Bride explaining how he is only mostly dead but not all dead.