Fantastic video. Great job pulling in historical quotes and references. Very well done and entertaining!
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
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@brianmccarthy55574 жыл бұрын
He should like it. He's on the credits at the end. Fake review.
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
Brian McCarthy as a patron, he requested that I do this video, so I did. That is one of my patreon tiers.
@jackhorner81424 жыл бұрын
DRJ Sweetapple 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
@HavocHerseim4 жыл бұрын
The movie is inaccurate. The reviewer clearly never read the "novel". First, its a resource book, not a novel. There's no story. It's a history book. The reviewer is an idiot. Second, the book spans several decades... Bill the Butcher and the Dead Rabbits never even met. They were different generations. The gangs and people portrayed were taken across several decades and smashed together for a movie.
@stevenleslie85574 жыл бұрын
Accurate or not, I love the ending with the time lapse graveyard to the present.
@haydndavies22484 жыл бұрын
And the music that plays as well.
@CSDonohue114 жыл бұрын
I still watch this movie every couple months.
@kurtisgonzales373 жыл бұрын
Gangs of New York is in my top 3 ALL-TIME favorite movies! It was scripted, and acted amazingly.
@AnonymousAccount5143 жыл бұрын
it is the best part, coupled with leo’s narration “will they know we were here”...it makes me tear every time i see it
@AnonymousAccount5143 жыл бұрын
@eric sosa yeah...its funny i cry at movies and music, but not irl
@jamesc72774 жыл бұрын
With regard to the Irish being given citizenship in exchange for service in the Civil War: My great grandfather, immigrant from Ireland in about 1860-61 was told that joining the army would grant him automatic citizenship, or so he said...it’s possible he may have misunderstood, he was an Irish language speaker who may have had shaky English skills. However, he served not only in the Civil War, but remained in the army as his career until he retired. In 1906, the year in which he ultimately died, he investigated his immigration (citizenship) status, discovered that he was, in fact, NOT a citizen. He remedied that situation, being sworn in as a citizen after a long career in the US Army and a relatively) brief period of retirement, during which time he married (an Irish-speaking Irish immigrant) and produced at least ten American-born children.
@DaVeganZombie4 жыл бұрын
Hey, that’s awesome, thank you for the story and, I hope he’s resting proud knowing he’s got his legacy living strong!
@bretteveretthowell32764 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that I found that interesting.
@Nightcrawler110524 жыл бұрын
He had 10 children in the same year he died? What a legend!
@realitynowassigned4 жыл бұрын
Ten? Tf?
@999Giustina4 жыл бұрын
10 children were not unusual for that time.
@randomperson25974 жыл бұрын
You know what isn’t accurate? Cameron Diaz’s Irish accent.....
@johnvannewhouse4 жыл бұрын
HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!! ...lmao....
@him0504 жыл бұрын
As a British person I didn’t even know she was attempting one, it’s that bad.
@sc_r1ptv1224 жыл бұрын
@@him050 looool same
@tezzo554 жыл бұрын
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, that's cultural appropriation for ya
@him0504 жыл бұрын
tezzo55 isn’t oi vey a Jewish thing anyway? 😂
@MrUnsolvedMystery4 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie even with the long running time never a boring scene Gets better every time I watch it. Daniel day Lewis is such a phenomenal and believable actor in this movie.
@nunyabizness1993 жыл бұрын
I already wore out one dvd.. I was told that was not possible, but it is..
@ntnrocket13 жыл бұрын
It's a great movie, no doubt.
@verycoolguy59473 жыл бұрын
Where do they find you people? I don’t think I ever want to see it again it was so meh and everything was predictable.
@Gfysimpletons3 жыл бұрын
@D Legionnaire took your advice. What a shit movie……..
@Gfysimpletons3 жыл бұрын
@@verycoolguy5947 if you are talking about the mercenary, you are F’ING spot on……..garbage
@kayyyp49393 жыл бұрын
I can’t get over Daniel Day’s insanely amazing performance!! His character is one of my all time favs. He’s also one of the greatest actors ever
@paulden31583 жыл бұрын
He should have gotten the Oscar for best actor here, not Adrian Brody
@user-we9oe6pr3e2 жыл бұрын
@@paulden3158 For sure!!!!
@unrealuknow8642 жыл бұрын
He is a great actor. Daniel Plainview was another character he played perfectly.
@scipioafricanus5871 Жыл бұрын
@@unrealuknow864 He definitely drink Adrien Brody's milkshake. He drink it up! FSSSTTT!!!! DRRRRAAAAIIIINAGE!!!!
@Jakevrana Жыл бұрын
@@scipioafricanus5871 dang, not I’m going to be saying that all day……… “DRAINAGE “
@mdevidograndpacificlumbera15394 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this movie as a child, and thinking how unrealistic and fantastical it all was- dare I say even whimsical! With the top hats and costumes, the gang living in an old mineshaft or cave, Throwing fruits at performers on stage, brawling firefighters, etc, etc. It looked like a world from a fantasy novel. BOY was I surpirsed when I learned that's how people actually lived. Having grown up in the 90's and 2000's it seems so alien!!! Suffice to say, it is now one of my favorite films.
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
Something else that happens in the movie that he touches base on but doesn't really go into is about Bill being a firefighter, the scene in the movie where two different firefighting outfits are fighting each other while the house burns feet away from them actually did happen all the time back then. In those days the law read like marine salvage laws, whatever the firefighters could salvage from out of a building became theirs, quite often multiple firefighting departments would show up at a fire and start fighting each other over the homes valuables and as a result the house would burn down while they were pounding each other out in the street. Also the richer a resident was the more he'd have to pay the local firefighters to keep them from intentionally lighting their house on fire so they could claim salvage rights over the contents of the house. Nice huh?
@d.c.88284 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 Yay, capitalism!
@algini124 жыл бұрын
If someone had told me this past December 2019, that we'd have a virus epidemic and protests all over the country over the death of one man, plus riots in Portland turning to anarchy, and another in Kenosha Wisconsin ready to become anarchy, I'd of said the same thing.
@PogueMahone14 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 That's pretty much the way things work under laissez-faire capitalist regimes -- in the absence of adequate law or governance, life becomes a racket run by gangs led by despotic bosses. It's also pretty much been the story of Western society from ancient Rome forward.
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
@@PogueMahone1 Oh yea, sure thing, we can credit every bit of progress since Roman times as having come from systems run by totalitarian governments as opposed to capitalist systems, like the very KZfaq that you're on right now. Do you say things just to make it look like you swallowed a dictionary or do you really mean that nonsense? Because if you do I really don't think you've thought things through very well.
@williambarr35514 жыл бұрын
There is a scene in Gangs of New York which amazed me, jaw dropping. From a ship at dock young Irishmen are disembarking, walking down the dock to land. On the dock is a desk with a Union soldier writing down names as a Union officer informs the Irishmen they are recruited into the Union Army. This scene reenacted exactly family lore of my Irish ancestor who arrived in NYC in 1861. He was recruited into the Union Army while disembarking from the ship he took from Ireland. He entered the 8th Connecticut Regiment; fought at Antietam, was wounded when AP Hill made his flanking attack against the Union left saving Lee's army. He settled in DC and for my family the rest is history. Great scene, good movie.
@maryshaffer84744 жыл бұрын
Ked to the conscription riots
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
I've got a similar ancestor story except he got sucked into the Civil War when he got off a boat from Germany, promptly got his ass (literally) shot at some battle down in the Carolinas. Of course he survived the war, otherwise I wouldn't be here telling you about him.
@toirmetalshaping4 жыл бұрын
Great fanily history story
@CSDonohue114 жыл бұрын
Lovely
@PissMaster34.5 Жыл бұрын
He saved (General Robert Edward) Lee's (traitorous) army by flanking the (whole) Union's left....(alone)? Confederate Rambo shit. Nice! Puts Benedict Arnold to shame. What confuses me, though, is how the Union ended up losing the war 🤯 I'm just glad he settled in DC like the conqueror he may or may not have been. Love live the lost cause! 👻 🤣...😐 what?!?!
@skyden241954 жыл бұрын
Definite fan of the movie. When I found out "The Dead Rabbits" was an actual, historical gang, I became much more intrigued by the story portrayed in the film. Thanks for producing this insightful look into the actual history behind "Gangs of New York."
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
Their name is the English pronunciation of the actual name of their gang. I heard it once in a documentary, it's pronounced "deed rabeen" or something close to that, it was a term in Irish that meant "large hulking man", it wound up being known as "dead rabbits" because that's what people thought they were saying when they told them the name of their organization.
@skyden241954 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 awesome. Thanks for the additional info.
@ibhistory1064 жыл бұрын
dude. you should really dig the book. Book is quite decent. Not sure to the day on how accurate it is but it's a really interesting read
@notmyname96252 жыл бұрын
I think several of the gangs in the movie were real gangs of that area back then.
@dylanlane3787 Жыл бұрын
Every gang actually named in the movie was a real thing back then. And William cutting "bill the butcher" was about as accurately portrayed as possible from what is known.
@LuvAndNotH83 жыл бұрын
So we just gonna ignore the fact there actually was a cat woman...Hell Cat Maggie. That shits crazy.
@freddymarsuc9043 жыл бұрын
Yeah can't see anyone talk about her
@elyastoohey66213 жыл бұрын
Most of this story is based on real stuff. There was a “priest” Vallon. Who likely was not an ordained priest, just as it’s inferred that Vallons status in the movie was a bit in limbo. Riots. Race problems. Massive political corruption. Ballot tampering. Starting to sound a lot like 2020. Hell cat Maggie was real, as were quite a few others.
@cocksure8430 Жыл бұрын
C'mon man!! Every city has at least one Hellcat Mary....theres one begging in Leeds city, UK right now!!,😂
@Sheepwillbesheep Жыл бұрын
Irish women are nuts.
@justinlast2lastharder749 Жыл бұрын
@@cocksure8430 Same Francisco, LA, and Portland have them on damn near everyone street corner.
@markmorgan98854 жыл бұрын
I took a class under Prof. Anbinder (pronounced Anne-bine-der) when I was an undergrad at GWU. He said he had worked as a historical consultant on the film. He said every time he would point out the history of the time, Scorcese would shoot him down saying it has to match the tone of the film or he had had a dream about it. The only suggestion he had that was put in was the different color ballots for different parties used during the election scene.
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the pronunciation guide since I cite him a lot! Yeah, for anyone who hasn’t listened to his interviews or lectures, I highly recommend it!
@slickmechanical4 жыл бұрын
In the opening scene Priest Valon teaches Amsterdam the St. Michael prayer, however that prayer wasnt composed until the 1870s by Pope Leo XIII.
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
I did not know that, thank you! More proof that Scorcese knew his 1800's history, and decided that order be damned, he was going to rearrange it however he liked.
@Suave1214 жыл бұрын
If Scorsese said that Priest Valon recited the St Michael's Prayer in 1848 then by God he did
@imgeorge81n4 жыл бұрын
Nerd
@TheHalflingLad4 жыл бұрын
@@imgeorge81n Really, dude? Is that supposed to be a dig? You found a nerdy comment under a review of a 3 hour long period movie on a history-focused channel? Well I'll be damned, how is that even possible?
@imgeorge81n4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHalflingLad nerds, both of you 🤓 🤓
@viggo11494 жыл бұрын
This recommendation was spot on; stopped watching, watched the movie, enjoyed it, and came back to the video. Great job!
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it.
@SStupendous2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClarified Loved this video, jsut found it again - and watched it again. The main thing that bugged me - other than all of the soldiers wearing forage caps, and wearing them like Shakos - was the buildings. You mention that by then there were 5+ story buildings, important to mention. I've seen pictures of Civil War-era NYC with up to 9 stories, so buildings definitely are too small. Also, a key thing to note is the fashion; as someone very into 19th-Century fashion, they're all dressed very 1840s-1850s. Pictures of the time alone of typical city folk would tell you the fashion, much like most other historical details, is decades behind.
@iammrbeat4 жыл бұрын
So are you telling me people rioted and fought before 2020? Get out of town.
@grindstone49104 жыл бұрын
Over racial issues, no less.
@PoopNuker4 жыл бұрын
About once every couple generations
@BodywiseMustard4 жыл бұрын
It's almost like the USA was built on racism
@kfrancis18724 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@greensmurf65154 жыл бұрын
We just kill more people during today's riots.
@tmcleanful4 жыл бұрын
Good choice - hit every notable entry that History Buffs hasn't covered. Was shocked that they haven't covered this one.
@michaelmckinnon15913 жыл бұрын
It was based on historical figures and events even Priest Fallon was based on a real person
@SStupendous Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmckinnon1591 If you watched the film you'd know that's not true. They're loosely based on historical people, some of them.
@Oldschooldan13 жыл бұрын
I always loved this movie. One of my ancestors was Isaac Varian the 63rd Mayor of New York from 1839-1841. He was the leader of Tammany Hall from1835 until 1842. He died one year after the draft riots. I really felt this movie portrayed the times and feel of that era. An absolute masterpiece!
@natalie_watson Жыл бұрын
That's cool as hell. How did u find out that info??
@Oldschooldan1 Жыл бұрын
@@natalie_watson My father is a historian and a genealogist. I spent most of my childhood being dragged around the country looking for dead relatives. I used to joke that I've met more of my dead relatives than living. Boring as hell when you're a little kid, but I so appreciate it today.
@beowulf51064 жыл бұрын
At the end of the movie, I like how Martin Scorsese do the time-lapse from 1860's to present on the same background scene while U2's soundtrack, "The hands that built america", plays.
@johnnycash13653 жыл бұрын
The hands that built America you say? Couldn't grow a damn spud though!
@mookiestewart37763 жыл бұрын
So black people????
@kevinbushracing583 жыл бұрын
@@mookiestewart3776 lmao!!!!!!!!
@deadlyoneable2 жыл бұрын
@@mookiestewart3776 manual labor you mean? With out yt people nothing would have ever happened. In fact they should demand repetitions for what blk people have done to their creation.
@itaxevasixn8808 Жыл бұрын
@@deadlyoneablebased
@jacsauvage4 жыл бұрын
So why isn't this stuff taught in schools? Why do I have learn about it randomly on KZfaq? Amazing stuff.
@PogueMahone14 жыл бұрын
Because most local US school boards want you to know Jack Shit. US schools exist solely to produce fresh, young cogs and widgets to replace old, damaged, worn-out ones within our overheated capitalist economic machine. To it, we are not people, only interchangeable meat parts.
@stevek88294 жыл бұрын
Because schools don't have the years to teach every thing in the world. It's up to the individual, if curious, to learn more throughout life.
@cushseth42764 жыл бұрын
I think the real question is... why the fuck would they teach this in schools? History is about broad strokes, unless you're actually a historian. Hows that course work gonna go? Revolution, civil war, gangs, reconstruction, world war 1, world war 2... well, the point is "gangs" isn't quite as important as the other things on the list.
@cushseth42764 жыл бұрын
@@PogueMahone1 Well the purpose of public schools in general is to teach people how to be productive and improve the society in which they live. The purpose of public schools IS NOT to teach you how to think as an individual or whatever the hell else you think it is. Parents teach their children how to be "happy". Then you can pay to go to college that teaches you what you want to learn. We both kind of said the same thing, but you said it with way more snark than is necessary considering your lack of understanding.
@Cagon4153 жыл бұрын
@@cushseth4276 teaching of gangs in a broader sense might actually do some good. It might give people insight on what people generally do when society takes away most of their options. Most people are ignorant to that.
@darrenfreyauthor4 жыл бұрын
"Thank God, I die a true American." Villain or not, that line was beautiful!
@SAVikingSA Жыл бұрын
The thing is, he's not a traditional villain. He has clear convictions and motivations. The viewer might not agree with him politically, but he doesn't do anything really outside the norm of what the protagonists do. By the end, you have sympathy for Bill, culminating in the time lapse showing the march of progress surrounding his grave. It's genius.
@darrenfreyauthor Жыл бұрын
@@SAVikingSA that was very well said! Thank you.
@SAVikingSA Жыл бұрын
@@darrenfreyauthor one of the best parts of the film is the overlayed power structure. Bill is the "villain" as a nativist, compared to the Irish protagonists. The thing is, both are being victimized by the corrupt Tammany Hall system, who are probably the actual villains of the story. Then the godlike power of the Federal government crushes everyone. Faced with that, you end up sympathizing with Bill. He was a creation, not a monster.
@cashnelson2306 Жыл бұрын
what does a "villain" have to do with how beautiful a line is lol
@CoralCopperHead Жыл бұрын
@@SAVikingSA ...I had the opposite problem. By the time the movie was over, my sympathy had dried up for *_everyone_* involved.
@Szyperak4 жыл бұрын
"Did this really happen?" I asked my mother 18 years ago, when I first saw this movie. She didn't have an answer, but after all this time you've given me one. Thanks!
@ela76824 жыл бұрын
its authentic not accurate
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
That's a fair way of putting it. Listening to Anbinder's lectures, Scorcese was fully aware of the actual timeline, but knowingly compressed and scrambled events for dramatic effect.
@spraynardkruger99034 жыл бұрын
Yea, maybe went for immersion over historical accuracy.
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClarified Quite often movie makers have to do that to tell a story that takes place over a period of years inside of the amount of time a movie can run in, no movie executive's want to hear about a 14 hour movie. Besides, movies aren't history lessons they're entertainment, one of the biggest mistakes people make is learning history from movies, if I see something like Lawrence of Arabia and it sparks my interest in something then I'll start researching it, but I never quote verse about something that I learned about in a movie, that's a big mistake.
@ViewThis.4 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely impossible to be accurate in a Historical movie. There is no way to avoid embellishment of some sort in the many different scenes. Fiction gets mixed with Non Fiction no matter what.
@estarriol74 жыл бұрын
And as a result, it's a great film, I was massively entertained, and sparked my interest in 19th Century American history, starting with Asbury's book. So much better than a more accurate, less entertaining film.
@taipan1854 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favourite movies. Daniel Day Lewis was nothing short of amazing as Bill the Butcher.
@josephvickrey53964 жыл бұрын
How badass was Bill the Butcher? Spoiler for 18 year old movie He killed Liam Neeson!
@anthonylewis92564 жыл бұрын
Another bastard son of arron I've folded in the warmth of my embrace
@stevet13964 жыл бұрын
Daniel day Lewis is nothing short of awesome in nearly everything he does. Last of the mohicans will always be near the top of my all time favs.
@taipan1854 жыл бұрын
@@stevet1396 Absolutely, the guy is easily one of the greatest actors of our time.
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
DDL is amazing in any movie in my opinion he's the best actor that's ever graced the screen.
@annodomini9754 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Phenomenal take on all this. Without making it a political focus, the potato famine was also coupled with the exportation of food from Ireland at the same time as the potato blight. Any irish (or even scot which experienced much the same treatment during the Highland clearances) would say that the immigration of gaelic populations, was the result of attempted genocide. The word "Famine" has been used to subvert the actual extent of the treatment of irish people, however when you look at that in context with Irish America, it helps to explain why the irish were very much fed-up, why they had to fight for even identity.
@evelynwaugh40534 жыл бұрын
Reading about this time, and the choices that English politicians made regarding famine relief is heartbreaking and sobering. At that time, there was also more of a determinist view of Christianity, and many believed that the poor deserved their dire fates.
@annodomini9754 жыл бұрын
@@evelynwaugh4053 Absolutely. The very treatment has been coined after the name of the man responsible, Malthusian. After Thomas Malthus, who thought the poor simply the equivalent of rabbits, and that them dying would naturally remedy the imbalance in the economy.
@MrSniperdude014 жыл бұрын
@Anno Domini Well said !! Also explains why Irish parents were willing to sell their kids into "indentured servitude"-- a form of White Slavery. It was a better shot at survival for the next generation, however harsh. Funny how the world acknowledges the 1990s famines in Dafur & Somalia, the deliberate famine in 1930's Ukraine, the Deliberate famine in Cambodia under Pol Pot, yet when it comes to the Irish famine nobody wants to admit British Culpability. "Civilized people" don't do such horrible things
@patrickpeppers4 жыл бұрын
@Tom Sanders It sounds like the state did a shit job since a million people died. They probably could have used some of those exports domestically to save human lives, but that was secondary to business and state interests apparently.
@tomthx58044 жыл бұрын
@@evelynwaugh4053 That part about Christianity believing the poor deserved their fates is totally untrue. Since the beginning of Christianity, they have always made a special effort to help the poor. I have no idea where you get such rubbish, except you may have read some of the more atheist style histories, where many untruths are told
@djdrack46814 жыл бұрын
Cool video. 10/10. - Great breakdown of even some of the minor parts of the movie - Great graphical cutscenes etc. - Great audio. (not monotonous).
@natalie_watson Жыл бұрын
Great points! Agreed!
@Mo-mw4it2 жыл бұрын
Back in my catholic school years in Dublin, our history teacher played this for our class. All my 14 year old eyes saw was the violence, but watching it now I see it for the hugely important story it's trying to tell, that's still relevant today. Amazing film!
@snodrod4204 жыл бұрын
Gangs of New York is one of my favorite Scorsese movies. My favorite D.D. Lewis film, and just an all around kick arse flick
@danielueblacker91184 жыл бұрын
sorry DDL his left foot...
@ibhistory1064 жыл бұрын
better than My Left Foot or Linkoln?
@frankdavis79094 жыл бұрын
If you haven't watched There Will Be Blood, watch it. His best acting IMO.
@DaVeganZombie4 жыл бұрын
Wow.... this was the fastest 20 minutes I’ve ever experienced. This is such a good video. I haven’t ever heard your channel but I’m checking your stuff out now. KZfaq recommendations for the win.
@danieljak27843 жыл бұрын
William Poole didn’t die from the leg wound. He was shot in the chest after he fell to the floor. He did survive for 14 days after. Great video, love the history!
@weenzoriain67644 жыл бұрын
As a Limerick man whose ancestors somehow survived the Great Genocide and avoided a coffin ship (as I'm still here bemoaning the rain); It always annoys me how people whinge about Cameron Diaz and Di Caprio's accents. The characters they play are born and bred in the USA so if they had a distinct dialect from a region of Ireland like I do, it would be strange.Their accents and characters are Irish-American and I've never had a problem with it. There are plenty of authentic Irish accents in the movie as Amsterdam (Leo) alludes to narrating and describing whilst walking through the 5-Points - great scene too
@Dreyno Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Accents in the US were just developing and we would barely recognise them today. First generation Irish-Americans would’ve had a weird mix of their parents accent and whatever the New York accent was at the time.
@ComradeMarlow10 ай бұрын
The firefighter scene is more accurate than many may think. The history of firefighting in that era is absolutely amazing and fascinating. Truly criminal stuff, with the engine companies fighting one another both figuratively and literally
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the Irish-African American relations. Irish in mass supported generally racist Democrats through out the 19th century and were active participants and instigators of the anti-black riots not only in 19th, but in the 20th century also. There's an active myth of "we are Irish - we can't be racist!", which is close to saying "we are German - we can't be nazis!"
@fearmorpiercemacmaghnais71864 жыл бұрын
Calling an entire people and country racist.... 😎😎😎 class act
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect4 жыл бұрын
@@fearmorpiercemacmaghnais7186 I never did that.
@thebonerfromhell2 жыл бұрын
Finding out about my countrymens violence against the Africans was very disturbing to me back when this film was made. Then, seeing a fair bit of racism in my own country, Ireland, in the early 2000s as we gained our own African and Eastern European immigrants made me realise that we irish aren't as friendly as some think we are. We're great over here at bigging ourselves up as the underdogs who fought through to win, totally forgetting our part in forging the world through violence along with every other nation. I guess people are just the same across the world.
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect2 жыл бұрын
@@thebonerfromhell hiya, I'm sorry for coming out as a cunt towards the Irish, this "underdog" thing makes me overreact. I think it's the whole human nature to treat someone who's different this way. And it's also our nature to find the ways to connect. So you're absolutely right.
@thebonerfromhell2 жыл бұрын
@@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect nah, you're not being a cunt. It's true that the Irish gained whiteness through violent means and there were many Irish who who committed atrocities towards Africans in those days. Which strikes me as odd seeing as we were treated with similar contempt by the English.
@MrBagpipes4 жыл бұрын
As an Irish person I made a point of watching this film although the xenophobia and religious bigotry of Nativists was something I was well aware of beforehand. Some of the things in the film did seem larger than life to me but I was more concerned about the message the film appeared to want to convey. And for me that message was primarily about the destructive nature of prejudice. I think the film also said to Americans that America was not nearly as welcoming to 'the huddled masses' as they sometimes like to believe. The film should have reminded us Irish and our diaspora of the hypocrisy of us whinging about how we have been treated whilst demonstrating Nativist attitudes to immigrants who arrived in places after us.
@MrBagpipes4 жыл бұрын
@@gypsyHAASy my first words were ",as an Irish person." I never mentioned being American.
@MrBagpipes4 жыл бұрын
@Bosco's box strange that because my own brother sneaked into America illegally. Tens of thousands of Irish have sneaked into America and that's why a succession of Irish Governments begged America for them to be given Green Cards and naturalised. And seeing as Irish are massively over represented in the numbers of people who are homeless and in hostels in the UK it might be an idea if you think a bit more carefully the next time you are tempted to bang on about hand outs. If you actually knew what you're trying to slabber about you'd know a substantial number of Irish immigrants to America actually landed in Canada first then made their way to America. And that artificial construct you talk about was forced upon a particularly ancient culture that has been subverted way more than any immigrants in Ireland have managed to do. With the number of Irish people unwilling to learn Irish or participate in any Irish cultural activities we don't actually need foreigners to subvert our culture,we can do that just fine. But feel free to kid on you're Uber Irish as you cheer on English soccer teams,watch English soap operas and obsess about Royal weddings. I work with immigrants and real asylum seekers. Individuals who had muscles in their arms cut by the Iranian Government when being tortured for being pro-democracy. I've met others battered by the Congolese Police for being Trade Union reps. None of them had a pot to piss in. I do however like the comedic value of your far left Marxist histrionics...... exaggeration is always good for a few giggles especially when it involves kidding on that the neo-liberal and centre right politicians who fund NGOs are really Marxists. 👍😂
@MrBagpipes3 жыл бұрын
@@gypsyHAASy Doesn't care what I think but responds twice. Nearly as cringey as telling folk not to comment on something American then slabbering about The North and whatever the fuck ",the other kind of Irish," is.
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde83732 жыл бұрын
What about Irish racism and sectarianism during draft riotsor is it the Irish are always the Victims?
@MrBagpipes2 жыл бұрын
@@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 did you miss the bit where I said Irish folk shouldn't demonstrate Nativist attitudes towards others?
@ARCtrooperblueleader4 жыл бұрын
This remains my favorite Scorsese film. My only real issue with the film is that the editing of certain scenes is spotty, but can be ignored. It’s one of my favorite films of all time.
@danielueblacker91184 жыл бұрын
Goodfella's sorry, his mom is in it...
@christopherbolton41994 жыл бұрын
Really good movie. Its just a seemingly perfect fit for describing the way the standards of life were in such times. Brutal and unforgiving.
@wanderingvagabond1634 Жыл бұрын
The biggest irony of the film was Daniel Day Lewis throwing a knife at a picture of Abraham Lincoln then portraying him 14 years later in another movie.
@Dell88music Жыл бұрын
I watched this video because i was curious about the accuracy of this movie. The fact that you're splitting hairs on some of these examples so much makes me respect this movie for being damn close to the mark, as well as a very entertaining, moving period piece.
@minimumcan4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Protestants and the Catholics brought their centuries old feud with them to mid 1800's New York.
@julianshepherd20384 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think the Irish dont like being kicked around.
@MortRotu4 жыл бұрын
@@julianshepherd2038 do you blame them?
@Richard02924 жыл бұрын
Common occurance tbh.
@LegionaryAtticus4 жыл бұрын
@@julianshepherd2038 If that's true then they should've respected the customs and culture of their new home.
@MrBagpipes4 жыл бұрын
Saxon do you mean learning to speak Native Americans' languages and practising their religions? Because the English language and Protestantism certainly isn't indigenous to America now is it?
@brendancripps88904 жыл бұрын
Just found you and this video. Nicely done! Your review does a fantastic job dealing with one of the difficulties of being a historian and reviewing historical fiction (be it movies or novels). I particularly liked your quote "if you can put aside (historical inaccuracies) then this does a great job of capturing the themes of the era if not the actual history itself." This is a perfect way to describe the historian's quandary: enjoying a film or novel but getting slowed down by historical inaccuracies. Ever considered doing a similar review on "Glory"? Enough historical inaccuracies and still a fantastic film. Thanks again. Cheers!
@larryhovekamp4318 Жыл бұрын
The book which the movie was based on, "The Gangs Of New York", did mention about Chinese immigrant presence before the Civil War.
@defhoez4493 жыл бұрын
And this many years later....people are STILL crammed into small apartments so the owners can get more money.
@markusandreas12734 жыл бұрын
Wow! I thought almost everything was made up for this movie, I guess not! Good video!
@mikemauro31194 жыл бұрын
Usually when a movie is based on a nonfiction book, it's not all made up
@kylemendoza88604 жыл бұрын
It was.
@jonathantan24692 жыл бұрын
Especially the flying Irish ninja catwoman in the opening streetfight. Apparently she actually existed.
@gregbors8364 Жыл бұрын
I thought Lord of the Rings was made up but then I found out that “men” were a thing
@OGDeepStroke4 жыл бұрын
Martin really had a 1800’s new york built for this movie.
@robert234567894 жыл бұрын
the magic of green screen and small sets
@lordvlygar29634 жыл бұрын
Yep... in the middle of Rome, Italy. It's still standing.
@godofthisshit3 жыл бұрын
@@lordvlygar2963 Is it on the outskirts?
@lordvlygar29633 жыл бұрын
@@godofthisshit It's at Cinecitta studios, which I think is in Municipio vii.
@Hopscotchlemonadespritz3 жыл бұрын
A surprisingly rewatchable epic I haven't tired of. The sets and costumes create an otherworldly cinematic immersion 👽🌎 Memorable characters like the chilling, charming Bill The Butcher add significantly to the entertainment value, while historical inaccuracy is reason enough to dig deeper.
@alanharrison694 Жыл бұрын
Very well done. My father kept the original printing in the library, and I read it as a teen. After she film, I read it a second time as well.
@DWilliam13 жыл бұрын
The gang members were much better dressed and more politically aware back then...
@mookiestewart37763 жыл бұрын
There was no real indoor plumbing .....they stank lol
@michaelmckinnon15913 жыл бұрын
@@mookiestewart3776 the poor ones, yeah because soap was expensive
@asmooshi97523 жыл бұрын
Ya no. Italian american mafia in New York during the 60's-80's were way more politically aware
@Xpwnxage3 жыл бұрын
They were still ruthless bastards, who gives a fuck what they wore.
@DWilliam13 жыл бұрын
@@Xpwnxage you seem angry…
@brianpeck40354 жыл бұрын
When i was young i looked through a garbage pile and found a book from the 1890s called "Darkness and Daylight or Lights and Shadows of New York Life" originals can be found cheap. It's full of etchings taken from photographs along with writings by a retired chief of police, a woman involved with a Christian charity and a detective. The cultures of gangs, sailors, beggars, pickpockets, opium dens and others are detailed. One of my favorite books ever! In it I found that the Humane Society for the prevention of cruelty to animals preceded and supported Child protection law!
@fukcg00gle954 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'll have to read that book for sure. Thanks.
@jameslawracy26664 жыл бұрын
The only major inaccuracy is the scene around the church. That is a factual scene but happened in 1836 and was the beginning of the Ancient Order of Hibernians in America. The story is good and factual but the sequence of some events is not always accurate.
@johnbrownsahero3154 жыл бұрын
Even the Romans had street gangs, looks up the blues and greens.
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
Sports hooligans before it was cool.
@stevenleslie85574 жыл бұрын
Until Justinian trapped them in the Hippodrome and had them all slaughtered.
@craftpaint16444 жыл бұрын
In Rome they were Guilds.
@Justowner4 жыл бұрын
They tried to get political. Ol' Justinian showed them why that was a bad plan.
@bg82244 жыл бұрын
*Eastern Romans
@toirmetalshaping4 жыл бұрын
Much of the same with the Irish here in what was Upper Canada, and then Canada. My Great Great Grandfather (Peter Ryan) could only make it to Alderman (St George Ward) in Toronto in the late 1880's. Interesting in today's climate. Good video!!
@danboy77 Жыл бұрын
I always thought this was Scorsese’s best film since Goodfellas, blown away when I saw it at the cinema, got the feeling the audience did not appreciate it but I sat there in awe! And the ending credits felt like the most stylish thing I’d ever seen.
@natalie_watson Жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you.
@solrebel74 жыл бұрын
This story is about my neighborhood
@inthedeadhours4 жыл бұрын
This was once the only movie TNT owned.
@MrSniperdude014 жыл бұрын
I did not know that. Kewl share
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
This and A Christmas Story.
@inthedeadhours4 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 oh God. Don't remind me.
@dukecraig24024 жыл бұрын
@@inthedeadhours TNT will remind us of that every year.
@inthedeadhours4 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 this is my hell.
@fiachoconnor4 жыл бұрын
Good job man. I enjoyed that. Its worth mentioning that these movies are theatrical and not documentaries, there "poetic license" is acceptable to tell a dramatic story.
@joetable6634 жыл бұрын
This movie got me heavily interested in US history
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
My 8th grade US History teacher showed us the movie and then hastily paused at the Draft Riot scene yelling "wait the Navy never did that!"
@michaelmckinnon15913 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClarified actually your history teacher was wrong, the US Navy did that to break up the rioting because of how bad it got
@RamblinRoverMatt Жыл бұрын
This video is sooo good! And it did 1.5 million views! Why have you not done a whole series like this with historical movies?? I would watch them all lol
@bwanaugonjwa24454 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty impressed with your video. You definitely deserve more views and recognition
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That’s kind of you to say.
@Road_Rash Жыл бұрын
As a historical reenactor myself, I've always loved the clothes in this film...excellent wardrobe...
@exidy-yt3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and commentary on one my favourite movies and a time and place period that has begun to fascinate me more and more, away from the 1790-1820 period i've been mostly fixated on. Thank you for creating this excellent video, I can't wait to see what else you come up with!
@danevertt3210 Жыл бұрын
Why are you fixated on 1790-1820??
@exidy-yt Жыл бұрын
@@danevertt3210 Mostly the Napoleonic wars, but also the massive political upheavals that were taking place worldwide at the time: the bloody slave rebellions in the Caribbean, the South American colonies breaking away from Spain and Portugal etc.
@danevertt3210 Жыл бұрын
@@exidy-yt yea I figured it would be napoleon heavy. I don’t blame you sir
@ralphraffles13943 жыл бұрын
The first “Irish” immigrant wave was much earlier, the Protestant Anglo/Scots/Ulstermen who served with George Washington, indeed many as senior officers and even generals eg Knox of Fort Knox fame.
@dnstone11273 жыл бұрын
They weren't real Irish though or Catholic
@donaldwhittaker7987Ай бұрын
Brilliant film. Scorsese deserves all the usual prizes -- pulitzer, national book award, nobel for literature, etc. He is in the same league as Kubrick and Coppola and very few others.
@dave28084 жыл бұрын
The scene of firefighters fighting each other and hearing how the municipality operated is interesting. They weren't ran by the city and on their own program
@notmenotme6144 жыл бұрын
This is what happens if you had privatised fire or police. I’m surprised the film did not show a house and fire and the firefighters saying to the occupants “sorry we won’t do anything as you’re not a subscriber to us”.
@dontworry56964 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the Gangs of Portland sequel!!!
@ladylestranj3 жыл бұрын
I too was thinking that the Ds are the same today as yesterday...... lol
@PhilHoy974 жыл бұрын
The Draft Riot is one of the saddest points; exploited, impoverished immigrants turned against other exploited people. The Irish had faced oppression, colonisation, several famines and rebellions and during An Gorta Mór forced to emigrate to America where they thought they would get a better life. When they got there they were forced into the army or still lived in poverty. In the five points they mixed with the free African Americans initially relations were good and tap dance was created through mixing of African and Irish music and dance. But then tensions started to rise with more Irish people arriving and with emancipation coming for African American slaves. The press began to print anti black stories and pseudoscientific talks. They’d started to spread that the free slaves would come and take their jobs. This stoked tensions and started to drive the wedge. The Irish had just faced starvation and didn’t want to face it again. When conscription came and black people were exempt because they weren’t considered citizens (3/5ths of a person) and this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. But instead of joining up with their African brothers and sisters and working class solidarity against the upper class oppressors, they took the anti black bate and during the draft riot cruelly lynched and murdered black people. It’s heartbreaking. People who had stood in tears back home in Ireland at the stories of Frederick Douglass about his and black American brothers and sisters treatment in America , here in America they now were lynching them. It’s shameful and in hindsight we can see how it was engineered. I wonder how things would have turned out if they had have stood in solidarity instead of forcing themselves up the ladder by pushing the black Americans off.
@jamesmooney8933 Жыл бұрын
The Irish gangs were an extention of the Irish of clans. Ireland was a system of warring clans. In the movie, it is shown that only Irish that were from the same county in Ireland were considered kin. The Irish system of clans warfare went back to before the Romans.
@TheAnanaki2 жыл бұрын
Much like Master & Commander, while not historically accurate, Gangs of New York is historically authentic.
@KobraVR4 жыл бұрын
My favourite scene is the way the Natives melt out of the scenery and when Day Lewis strikes the ground with his stick and each time in zooms in on his eye 😄
@SukiStarFox8883 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video!! ..My friend was a NYPD detective for many years. He said by far the most vicious gang was the "Westies". An Irish gang centered in Hell's Kitchen. Jack said that if they got a "Westies" call, the officers would be pretty nervous. lol Makes sense... a long history of grit.
@Dreyno Жыл бұрын
Do what the cops here in ireland used to do when there was gang trouble. Put the kettle on and head down later to pick up the pieces.
@danevertt3210 Жыл бұрын
The Westies did some vile shit at certain points of there active years
@AbrahamLincoln43 жыл бұрын
The 5 points were no different from the east side of London back then I presume?
@moodyowlproductions42873 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much
@peterlonergan3 жыл бұрын
You got the Irish famine part wrong. It wasn't the potato blight that was the cause. It was English rule.
@Legalizeasbestos3 жыл бұрын
One thing I’ve come to understand about street fights and scuffles is that usually the number of people dead is very low. Watch any clash and you’ll see that most people are sticking to their side and occasionally grappling with an opponent. People don’t just throw themselves into the opps like they do movies. Most fights only a few people are REALLY fighting and everyone is trying to survive. People weren’t just magically suicidal back in the day. My point being that just because “only 8 people died” doesn’t mean it wasn’t a massive fight.
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
You're right, it would have been more like the kind of situations in the modern era when different protest groups clash. A few people fighting, most holding back. A lot of people getting out of there. More of a riot than an actual battle
@jone704 жыл бұрын
Great video, I love the film and I am pleased to see the tone, and themes were accurate. Now I'm off to watch it again......
@doctorgoobie7329 Жыл бұрын
You can have a thoroughly enjoyable time watching this film and fast forwarding through every scene that Daniel Day-Lewis isn't in.
@Phelixc4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the film, one of my favorites, but I never knew it was portraying actual events. I knew that some of the people did exist (like Tammany and others), but I thought it was highly fictionalized. Cool to see that it does take inspiration from real stuff though, even if the timeline is fudged and condensed. This was a great video, thank you for teaching me something new.
@briansinger5258 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm. Movie is exactly what happened in New York in the 1980s.
@sgabig17 күн бұрын
I see what you did there 👀
@nickgov663 жыл бұрын
Messing around with time frames is common in film and television, one example is "Peaky Blinders" which has the gang being formed by men returning from the First World War, in actual fact by this time The Peakies were long gone, their heyday was at the end of the 19th and early part of the 20th centuries. My grandmother was a member of the Simpson family, at the time her brothers, noted street fighters, were known for their antipathy to the Peakies.
@JJBird11184 жыл бұрын
This was a great video and so interesting! I’m glad I found you. Can’t wait to watch more!
@wtk60694 жыл бұрын
There's plenty of heightened reality in any movie due to dramatic needs and artistic license, but beyond that consideration, "Gangs of New York" is reasonably accurate.
@michael-h81534 жыл бұрын
Do this is real and enemy at the gates is a lie. Give me a break
@lucasesteban484 жыл бұрын
This is super interesting. Thanks for making such a great video on one of my favourite films!
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@felipeiglesias Жыл бұрын
The final scene of this movie it always gives me chills: see the past of time on how very important moments and people became ruins of time is very Romantic/Pantheistic to the core. Always enjoyable movie.
@liferlanceadventures1465 Жыл бұрын
Love your stuff dude. You actually brought me into the game because I stumbled on your videos when looking at something I don't even remember. Keep it up my dude!
@stevejohnson80344 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thanks for the analysis of what I thought was a intriguing, but largely just a "sad" film. This video helps explain it's significance beyond it's spectical. Thank You!
@detritus100014 жыл бұрын
Stove pipe, brother. Not stove top.
@danielueblacker91184 жыл бұрын
Hay WTH I like STUFFING..... please.
@bhartley868 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job of research and profound thought. I tend to criticize everything but I could not find a fault, well done !
@JeffreyDeCristofaro Жыл бұрын
My second favorite Scorsese film, just behind TAXI DRIVER, and one of my favorite historical epics! It was clearly a labor of love for Scorsese, who spent decades planning this project and had already captured the gritty side of New York. And that he had TIME film critic Jay Cocks as co-writer and was able to get Italian studio Cinecitta (which had done Biblical epics like QUO VADIS? and BEN-HUR and the series ROME) to recreate the Five Points was nothing short of astounding!
@TVans-vs3gn Жыл бұрын
Quo Vadis - thank you for mentioning that. Gotta watch it.
@mikhailv67tv3 жыл бұрын
Sydney had the razor gangs. They had a huge fight in the post Great War period in Kings Cross. No guns were used due to gun laws but they fought with cut throat razors. .slashing at each other.
@rileycannon67894 жыл бұрын
I very much agreed with you there at a point you made at the end where people were accusing it of cherry picking the most explosive of events and you largely dismissed that argument this is a part of American history that rarely gets displayed and as such I don't mind the somewhat broad brush he painted with because he got so much right. If it were another WWII movie or something like that I would want it to be very specific as we already have great movies about it generally and the place to go to mine for interesting content is to get specific at this point. But the relatively unsung part of American history needs more of the poetic truth to give people an idea of the feel before it's important to get into the nitty gritty of the details.
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad that came across.
@jovanweismiller71144 жыл бұрын
I saw it when it first came out. Being married to a descendant of the Irish who fled because of the Famine I knew some of the errors you pointed out, but not most of them. Great video!
@haroldsmith12134 жыл бұрын
great comparison with book, its amazing any immigrants survived the poverty and resentment that greeted them- nice video thanks so much
@_Peremalfait2 жыл бұрын
The scene where Irish immigrants were being inducted into the army right off the boat was, as you say, a bit of a stretch. Or, put another way, a crock. According to civil war historian Bruce Catton, the Irish as a percentage of the population were underrepresented in the army.
@adrianpetyt9167 Жыл бұрын
One person who's definitely out of time and place is the character called "Monk" who carves notches on his bat for each person he's clobbered with it. He's based on Monk Eastman, the 'Prince of Gangsters', a Jewish gang leader from the lower East Side a generation or two later. By his time, Five Points was full of Italian immigrants and their gangs battled Jewish gangs.
@pamelakay64034 жыл бұрын
Well now you’ve peaked my curiosity - I need to watch this now...
@HavocHerseim4 жыл бұрын
The movie is highly inaccurate. The reviewer is an idiot. The "novel" is a history book. A resource book. None of these gangs or people existed together. Just read the book. Its better... and actually has facts in it.
@JJVater4 жыл бұрын
As with all movies for entertainment it deviates from history but keeps it within arms length for sure. It’s a great film regardless of what any naysayers decide to purport.
@BasedGodEmperorTrump3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this brand new when I was 14 or 15 and realizing that was going on 19 years ago makes me feel old. Lmao 😅
@misterkefir4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! enjoyed it through and through. Thanks a lot and cheers!
@guesswho22peekaboo2 жыл бұрын
RE: Your conclusion. It makes me sad that people thought the cherry-picking was to paint America in a bad light. I think it's important to have an honest look at American history, all of it, even the things we're ashamed of. It was definitely cherry-picking, but for dramatic affect. And I'm fine with that. The opening scene tells you immediately not to take this film literally, so don't. I appreciate your analysis and appreciation for the film as a work of art, not necessarily an accurate historical piece. I think Scorsese took just enough license without spreading outright lies. It made me interested to learn more and I did.
@mirzaghalib86592 жыл бұрын
why are you ashamed of things you didn't do?
@timucinharkonnen26993 жыл бұрын
New Amsterdam aka NY was quite similar to most early metropolises at this time. Just like London for example. Some people think "ghettos" or "no go areas" like favelas are a modern days phenomenon, while in fact it isn't. It appears everywhere at any time where extreme poverty of a great mass collides with the need of economic competition.
@seanstevens33714 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel and I love it!
@johnm30664 жыл бұрын
"he based it off multiple paintings and engravings..." 1:22 must have overlooked that half the people in those paintings were of color.
@edcrichton94574 жыл бұрын
Being dark complexioned was indicative of being poor working class and not necessarily contemporary views on race.
@SomaliSamurai4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Perfect summation of the film, and it's pseudo-historical connections to the period. Also one of my favorite movies if that counts for anything!
@HistoryClarified4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed it as well. It’s a wonderful LEGO set with most of the correct pieces but placed in whatever order it feels like.
@Tubes12AX7k2 жыл бұрын
That scene in this video at 3:38 I think is supposed to be a depiction of a famous photo called Bandits' Roost. The timeline is historically "off" but the sentiment is there. This is right at "Mulberry Bend" on Mulberry Street in NYC. The whole block was eventually razed. There are some ironies about what was built right next to this area but I'll let you read about the history of the Five Points.
@Runey004 жыл бұрын
This was just so awesome. I love this movie and it was great to see the historical accuracy depicted on fact rather than opinion. Keep up the good work! I look forward to more of your videos.