Tim B. You indeed did Tim!! I also Thank YOU.... for watching, glad I could help out!

100% agree, this guy seems like a pros pro, and explained the situation in a manner that really instills confidence in his knowledge. Plus his gear setup was amazing, and made me know this isn't his first or thousandth time.

I have always liked Amarr... not so much nowadays but it’s nothing to do with the doors. Amarr charges dealers extra for placing an order over the phone, email or fax... ridiculous! They are abandoning their durasafe hardware which I liked. So Amarr is making changes but not really for the better.

Now THAT'S what I'm talkin about!!! That is fantastic Gallatyn! Remember me at Christmas time... ;)

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Great fast video with lots lot piints

Thanks Hugh, I get a lot of flak for calling a spade a spade, but your right buddy...there's a lot of it out there! Now how in the hell do I get to Australia!! They got some mighty fine women and some mighty fine beer! count me in!

I agree brother!! But I guess it’s good for us that they don’t.

Dave Lafontaine a job like this is never the exact same in circumstance, it serves you well to know your limitations and there certainly is value in that!

and lets not forget the value of a true professional organization like yours in some circumstances its worth its weight in gold. Ill get a company to come out, fix it and adjust the entire system, and teach me about it for a hundred bucks or so. I do what I do well, they do what they do well! for me? computer security. :-) thanks for the video,and the thoughtful reply.

coltdoor1 .....Indeed Colt! I would think that anyone with any kind of experience would know that the doughnut needs a bit of lube but your right...it gets overlooked most times.

Thanks James! glad to be able to help out the diy people out there!

The Goontar ..... Right on brother!!! 👍🏻👍🏻

Julius Jones now theres a man that recognizes talent!! 👍🏻👍🏻

Thats a tough call, 1/4 inch isn't much and might not be worth playing with just keep an eye on the door and if it starts acting strange or sounding funny then that might be the time to address that 1/4 inch.

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I would consider the Amarr, Stratford 3000 the best steel sectional I've installed. I look for a door that goes together properly without modification, is solid and comes with great hardware. Amarr is a pinch resistant door with the best design, others can't copy it because of patent issues, so they come up with their own version and they suck. There are other good doors but part for part Amarr is the best in my opinion.

Thanks for the information. Have a nice weekend.

You too!

Do you think it might have something to do with the torsion spring?

Jason Bassie It could...yes.

Maybe don’t have the door open so high.

Thanks for answering. As you know, the door opens as high as it goes electrically, which is all the way back over. The left side is still loose at the bottom once on the grove. What causes that? As you describe on your vid, the right side is nice and tight and the left loose, that is my situation (except as noted, the left, loose wire was mounted on properly but still has a slack, that shouldn't be there. That slack is causing not only to get the wire jump off again, but to get the door stuck once is coming down (which can damage other parts!). What is causing this slack? Thanks again for trying to help me (if it all fails will have to call a pro).

Montery12 most doors will run out of spring tension at just over 7ft so your door opener should stop the door just as it clears the header, not much more.

Glad to be of assistance Cody!! Good job buddy!

Probably… but they do have a place below the video called discription where i can put a link to the non music version of the same video… for wankers. 🤷🏼‍♂️

+ninerlen Glad to help out!!!

Glad it all worked out for ya! Thanks for watching.

Makes no difference to me, they are both nice doors.

Makes sense. I've been working on them for almost a year now and they both have their pros and cons. (I do hate the flimsy operator bracket on Wayne Dalton doors, though. They always seem to be breaking.)

Well the wayne dalton #9100 is a fairly flimsy door, but if it's strutted properly and the machine has a good reversing system and the door is installed correctly it should last as long as an average door can be expected to. but then again that applies to all doors really, if it's installed correctly even a piece of junk can last a few yrs. On the other hand a really good door can fall apart fairly quickly if it's not put in right to begin with.

Blake Waddill Fantastic! Glad it worked out for ya!!

+capoman1 Yes I would start from scratch, sometimes trying to work with the way it is, can be worse. So replace the cables then since the cables were originally already off the springs will simply shrink when you loosen the set screws. Loosen the set screws on the "hubs" (the big pulleys that hold the cables) as well then feed the cable on to one of the hubs and tighten the set screw, then pull the cable tight and lock it in place with vice grips and do the same on the other hub. The hubs should be right up against the bearing plates when you tighten them. Once both cables are tight then you can proceed to winding the springs, if you count each hole in the cone as one then it would be considered a quarter turn...for 7ft high doors start with 29-30 quarter turns and then set the "set screw" and move on to the next spring and do the same, you might find the door heavy or even springy so you can take off or add a few more winds to get it just right. The key to doing this correctly is getting the cables tight and locked in place before winding the springs, make sure you have the springs on the proper side otherwise you are winding backwards. Give that a shot and let me know if you have any other questions.

Alright, thanks so much. I will check back in now that I know how to proceed. Just got first snow and would love to be able to park in the garage.

You can do it Capo! But if anything doesn't seem right let me know.

+gary defilippo Hi Gary, your problem is actually quite simple...bad advice. you don't need end bearings they never wear out and you can't just add a spring, door springs are rated for weight so they have to be exact and you can't just add an extra one...it doesn't work that way. If you have the wrong springs the cable will just keep coming off, you tell me what door you have and I WILL TELL YOU WHAT SPRING OR SPRINGS YOU NEED.

nick elias sounds like something has been painted... either the door itself or the vinyl trim and when it sits for a period of time the paint re-seals itself and locks the door in place. If your door has been painted the put some lube in between the sections. If not check the trim on the outside to see if paint has overlapped the trim and is in contact with the door.

All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. ahhhhhhh! i think youre on to something. i just moved into my.house and the people before me did paint the door. they mustve painted over the hinges. im going to try and what you said. thank you!!!!!

nelias7306 its not typically the hinges... its the sections themselves so open the door until the sections separate and lube the gaps in between each section, this might or might not be a permanent solution but if it works for a while atleast you'll know for sure what the problem is. From there you can scrape or sand the excess paint off next time it starts sticking. Do this from the outside, thats where you'll find the problem.

All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. gotcha will do. i will let you know how it goes tomorrow thanks again!

nelias7306 very cool, i see this almost every single time a painter paints a door. Keep me posted buddy!

Your door should have two cables, but it could have 1 spring.

James Wise they lift the door, theres a knob on the bottom of the door that the cables attach to and the spring turns the tube as it unwinds... lifting the door.

James Wise they're basically attached to the bar for the main spring. the main spring lifts the weight of the garage door

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@@ALLProGarageDoors Help me install my new shutters and you will be top of the list; and I don't even mind if you chew gum while doing the job-LOL!!

The problem with these guys is they don't have to put out quality and innovative stuff anymore to stay on top, they just sign a contract with home depot and badda bing...badda boom you will sell doors regardless of the quality because the guy with the orange apron says it's good stuff!! Only clopay would come out with a door where the stiles could literally be removed by hand, with little effort and no tools (#1000 and #1100 series) that is stupidity...and beyond!!

Not necessarily, It could be springs...I wouldn't rule that out but there are several reasons this happens...it could be your door is going up too high, set your opener to stop maybe a few inches lower and that should keep tension on the cables.

@@ALLProGarageDoors thank you. This door was replaced just over a year ago and the last week the one side has had the cable come off three times. When I called the installer he wanted nearly 100 dollars to come look at it. I'm frustrated because it was only 13 months ago I replaced everything on it. He said the springs could have lost tension but said I shouldn't do it.

@@billhooley9582 I had a door like that yesterday myself and the problem was that the tracks were un-even, the right side was 1-1/2 inches lower than the left so I brought the door down and leveled it then measured from the top of the door to the gap where the two tracks (horizontal and vertical)are bolted together...that measurement should be the same. At 1-1/2 inches different the cables would never stay on. Sounds like this guy doesn't know what he's doing which is no surprise, oil dipped springs don't lose tension and galvanized springs are supposed to be wound enough to be springy so when they do lose tension in roughly ten months that the door will now be balanced...only a rookie wouldn't compensate for that.

wolfgang102695 Thats awesome Wolfgang!!!

+Everything home repair.....no you can just put a bar in the spring and undo the set screws so that the tube spins free or you can put a good pair of vise grips on the tube and slack the cables just enough to put them back on.

+Justin B Awesome!!

I got it on amazon, made by stanley I think. It's not bad for repairs although it had to be extensively modified for heavier tools like vise grips. It does tend to pull on the back of your neck with the weight of all the tools. I don't wear it anymore now that I'm doing door installs full time instead of repairs. I do think at some point I might wear it again.

Basel M probably preassembled one ahead of time for another job.

Rob Simpson thats fantastic Rob... glad to help out buddy 👍🏻👍🏻

i’m not sure, it’s an old video but i use a white lithium spray these days, it sticks very well, doesn’t drip on the car when the garage door opens and stays on for a long time and you can use it on regular door hinges, kitchen cabinet hinges etc.

I enjoyed the gum chewing. It adds to the persona!

+Brian Sum1YouNo Keep me on you're Christmas list Brian! ;) Most spun cables can be fixed in 1/2 an hr by a professional and no garage door professional charges 1,000.00 an hr so in short the guy was trying to rip you off, glad you didn't fall for it.

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Jack O' Club ... hey there Jack! Is it an abrupt stop like it bangs into something and stops or a slow binding like stop?

ck for a broken spring, release tension on the springs put cables on then re-attach springs.

All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. I have a man here to fix mine right now! Both cables came off. he said he needs to reset the spring. What would a typical prices for this be?

89.95 and that includes a full tune up.

Dustin Hatfield hopefully you got done with all ten fingers still intact!

Your Hubby and you will probably both see this but...A professional can re-set your cables AND do a general maintenance in 1/2 an hr...it should run no more than $100.00 maybe another 20.00 if your cables are thrashed.

Amen brother!! Thanks for watching, if you have any questions let me know.

Thanks Mark a silicone type spray is fine, you just don’t want something runny. The stuff we use isn’t available retail so silicone type is close.

@@ALLProGarageDoors Thanks for your quick reply. Much appreciated!

That's fricken fantastic!!! Saved you some serious coin too! Glad it worked for ya buddy.

You know it's never gonna be a good comment when someone starts out telling you how much experience they have. But the viewer of this video must always take into consideration...the circumstances and situation for which I'm there in the first place, the renter was moving out and jacked the door as he was moving so he's not going to replace anything he doesn't absolutely have to and he wasn't even home when I did the repair and since the "ropes"... we call em cables are rated for hundreds of pounds more than the door actually weighs I'm not going to replace unless they are frayed. Yes if you are doing this for yourself and would like the peace of mind then sure..if it makes you feel better then replace em. As far as the dangers of a torsion spring door, I really wouldn't worry about it since it's just kindergarten stuff anyway.

I’d venture to say you have the wrong springs.

+Steve 1961P. .....Hey there Steve, if your sectional door has "Torsion" springs then you can mount the opener anywhere you want, Torsion springs lift the door evenly from the tube having cables on both sides...the opener is just the motivator that keeps it moving.I've mounted openers all the way to one side before and it's worked fine. The only reason we don't do it more often is simply because the outlets to plug in to are usually in the center. So yes you can easily mount the opener off to one side and be fine.

+All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. FANTASTIC!!!!!! I am a mechanical type and I see it the same as you, but obviously you have a million times more experience with this issue. So I am very happy to know it will work fine.. Thank you for the fast response and the free info... 5+ stars for you!!!!! Ps. I watch a lot of YT videos and read many comments. Don't ever take anything the jerks say to heart. They simply have to blow their horn to make themselves feel better.. Schmucks...... Thanks again......

Amen Steve! I don't let the schmucks run smack on my page without getting my two cents in. Not many have as much experience as I do and the few that do don't typically talk crap, it's the rookies that talk all the game but don't bring any. So your good to go on the opener...put it anywhere you want and if you have any problems let me know buddy!!

Clopay fell asleep at the wheel somewhere around the time they hooked up with Home Depot...Amarr started making the Dura-Safe hardware and Wayne-Dalton and Martin had pinch resistant doors and Clopay wanted one too but the good designs were patented so they came up with this monstrosity. They have been making the 251 and 151 models for at least 6-8 yrs now...maybe even 10 yrs, and it's bad on so many levels, the pins were steel, and the end hinges took a longer pin than the center hinges and they had the habit of coming out and jamming in the track. The hinges themselves were so light that a small child could bend them with their hands. This door is the "Trac-Drive" of garage doors!!

Put a pair of vise grips on the tube and lift up until the cable slacks a little then put it back on the hub.

Whether or not you like a product, your role is to repair it to the best of your ability. Save the editorializing.

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No problem at all Karmina! Thanks for watching, if you have any questions let me know!

+Flower Power I found it on Amazon for like 54 bucks, it took quite a bit of modifying before I could use it but for repairs it worked pretty good.

Rita Morzouq call your local garage door guy... for around a hundred bucks he’ll have you up and running.

If the red colored drum or “hub” is on the right side and also on the other side of the track then yes its possible... not always normal but possible that it was installed that way.

twinsmama15 So here's what you do...vise grip the door (under the roller on the slack side...and above the roller on the tight side) so that it's totally level and feed the cable back into the notch, wind it around the grooves until the loop at the bottom is very close to the knob on the bottom bracket the snap it back on the knob and you should be ok. But!! your door has to be level first.

All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. Thank you very much for your reply. I am going to give this a try, see if I can get it level first, that is definitely a problem.

Well when a cable comes off one side but not the other the door goes crooked and the side with the tight cable has to be held in place while the loose side is raised, naturally when you raise the loose side the tight side will want to go up as well that's why the use of vise grips to lock the door from raising further on the tight side is essential while another pair of vise grips on the underside of the roller on the loose side is used to hold that side from falling. You can use clamps with the same effect if you have any.

All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. Thank you!!! Going to give this a shot this weekend. I may need to wait for another pair of hands, but going to try myself first. Have a great day and thank you so much for making this video, it helps people like myself, rural area and female, ( although I know this helps the males too).

No problem at all, if you have any questions let me know.

A professional can re-set your cables AND do a general maintenance in 1/2 an hr...it should run no more than $100.00 maybe another 20.00 if your cables are thrashed.

If the door is lopsided instead of trying to get the high side down...try to get the low side up, but you have to lock one of the rollers on the high side from wanting to go up more as you lift the low side up, it's actually very easy. then when the door is even push the high side down and inch at a time keeping the door level and although the high side will be hard to push it will go down with pressure, the key is keeping the door level.

Yes but if one side still has the cable on and under tension then you have to lift the side of the door that the cable is off and push down on the side the cable is still on so that the door goes down evenly and level, if you don't get the door level it won't go down. You have to do this slowly inches at a time or the top roller will pop out.

Yes most "openers" have that capability provided the "sensor beam" is in the proper location.

15 minutes is money well saved Donald...good job!!!

You have to put a 3/8th thick bar in the cone and hold it while you loosen the set screws.

+Trenton Kelley Hahahaha!!! They are testing you're skills!

Bob Chunn thats great buddy!! The repairman probably would have overcharged you anyway!

Thanks a lot Buddy

+R. Borowiec Thanks for watchin RB!

+All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. Anytime man! You're the only one who had a good enough video to explain how to put the cable back together. All these other douchebags out there are just using it as bait for an advertisement to get you to call them to do it. It's also great how you make the video entertaining and letting us know what not to buy because that garage door brand is garbage! You my friend seem to know garage doors better than anyone out there and you make it look easy. Hell yeah man! I've got all my friends watching your videos. Do you have a Facebook Page?

+R. Borowiec I totally agree, most are just a sales pitch. I like to have some fun with the video's (the wayne dalton I-drive video was a crack up) as well as make fun of the riff raff and tough shit if they don't like it. People like you are who I make my video's for, if I can save someone some coin then I've passed it forward because I've used youtube to save me a buttload of money doing stuff myself!! Yea we do have a facebook page but it's very tough to keep up with youtube and facebook and the website and the field work so I've turned over the FB to a media company to stay relevent. It's not as personal as I would like, although I do make some posts on it it remains pretty generic. You can find it easily by name. If you have any questions RB...hit me up! Thanks buddy

Thanks for watching and glad to help out!

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techman0113 Spun cables have so many variables and so many different ways to get the cable back on, you could also vise grip the roller so the door won't fall and take the cable off the knob of the bottom bracket then unfurl the rats nest and wrap in back onto the hub (drum) and then click it back over the knob on the bottom bracket. If you have groove wear on the tube then if your skills were good you could move the tube a few inches in either direction to get away from the wear spot.