Having been a fire investigator, I know of at least one case where "the fire was out" only for the FD to return later to a fully raging fire. Though not my job to invesigate that call and having been at both calls, it was my firm belief that the " rekindle" was actually arson. Unfortunately politics got involved. Why fight with the insurance co.over the details to fix the place when you can just get the full check and a new house..food for thought.

Where The Hell Is The Water? Sad

I read a lot of innuendo on why buildings reignite in this comments. In my hometown in the Netherlands there is a cautionary tale involving a reigniting house. It all started with a warm water boiler exploding when someone in the house started the shower. A guest in a front room was blown through the front window onto the street. He luckily has recovered fully from his injuries. The fire brigade was called and put out a small fire. They started packing up, but were surprised by a reigniting fire before they were even gone. It evolved in a fully involved fire, taking down the original structure and two neighbors. The response of the fire brigade was that big, that regular hydrants were not enough to get enough water. They laid a water transport hose across the city center to get to open water. It was punctured by cars driving over it multiple times. Although a proper investigation was impossible due to the extended fire damage, it is presumed something, most likely the insulation had started to smoulder and later burn out of sight.

Tremendous amount of fire for a rekindle, something funny going on here ! Just saying

Honestly, the rekindle screwup was the best thing that could happen for the homeowner. That house was trashed. Rather than the insurance fix it using what was left, let it burn up completely and start over from scratch. New copper wiring, PEX plumbing, residential sprinklers. All new high efficiency appliances.

looks and sounds like the fire dept didn't do the job right the first time

That’s what happens when you don’t do a good job overhauling chief. Remind me not to move the Neptune

Be careful with blown-in-insulation. Remove as much as you can on a well involved house. It’s known for causing rekindles.

Snooty fireman passing in front of the camera: “Don’t get me.” Well, sorry dude but you were already ‘got’ before you even spoke. Better yet, you are now all over the web. Great video.

Could someone explain why the roof crew didn't have SCBA's in place. We've had a lot of firefighters escape serious injury just because they had full PPE on when the roof gave way under them.

Considering all the equipment and manpower at the beginning of the video only to have a fully engulfed building later is inexcusable. Use it as a training video on this is what you should not do.

How did this happen? Fire was out? That poor family.

That whole damn department needs to be trained… I mean what in the hell were they doing??

Should have titled this one "Just when you though you had it out"

rekindles happen, all it takes is a small pocket of something smoldering in a wall for it to happen. You can overhaul and check with a tic all you want, sometimes it just happens, its the nature of the beast. to say they did a poor job is not fair to the departments involved. Unless you've walked in the boots you probably don't even remotely understand. When we leave a fire scene we like to think the fire is 100% out, most of the time it is...on the rare occasion you see here it wasn't. The calls were 5 hours apart, not knowing how long after they cleared the scene between the 2 calls i would guess maybe 2 hours. That leads me to believe there was a hidden bit of smoldering something that was able to grow. This house is old construction, it probably had rock wool or fiberglass insulation, both of which can hide hotspots from a tic. Think before you criticize, there's a lot of training involved with being a firefighter, you don't just get gear and have at it.

So many experts here. You learn so much watching Chicago Fire.

There's no such thing as a "rekindle". It either wasn't out the first time or it had some "help".

A couple of years ago in our town, a fellow was working on his car in his basement garage. I've forgotten now, but whatever he was doing started a fire. By the time the fire department arrived - all volunteer with a full time chief - the house was totally engulfed in flames. It literally burned to the ground. Besides the house, he lost three prize winning antique cars as well, This is why I would never have garage within the foot print of the house.

So was this a rekindle or did someone screwup …

What made them decide to use the water?

Wow, sure went up quick the second time. My department had a mobile home fire, witch we knocked with only the kitchen burnt. (This was the first time ever my vollie dept saved a mobile home, from a fire originating in the house). We were called back two days later at 4am for the whole trailer on fire and melted gas cans found in underneath. I don't think the insurance company ever even taked to any of the FDs that responded.

A department I was on responded for a kerosene leak in a business. We vented the place and turned it back over to the business owner. A couple hours later it was fully involved. This was a long time ago so I don’t remember the details, but it was something about the workers that were cleaning up the kerosene did something wrong and ignited it.

Dude this is like top notch journalism

Another US firefighter stuff up. The chief should be fired and the whole crew sent for intensive training. What a mess.

What a fire department. They called it out but fire was inside walls and ceiling. Always leave an engine on scene. Fire department is in trouble. Dorks.

Good job boys, NOT!!

Reignition happens a lot more frequently than you'd think and many times it is NOT the fault of the fire department but of the home or landowner. Insurance fraud is real. It has happened numerous times that I know of for a fact in my locality. But training sure is an issue with many volunteers these days and getting people to volunteer is hard enough. There are still the few that are very dedicated and will go out of their way though. One thing I did see positive in this video was the use of the 2.5 or 3 inch (whichever size they use) hoseline. Too much do you see a 1.5 pulled on a well involved fire that has taken great portions of a structure on. The water to heat dissipation gap is so huge that it is dangerous in many ways. Even a 2 inch would be more practical in that scenario but people need to stop being so scared of the large hoses and train on them more. One person can hold onto one if you know what you're doing.

Just like a wood-burning stove. The fire smolders. Lot a smoke & heat. Open-the-door, and a fresh breath of air...and KaBoom!

Ahhhh the ole rekindle. This is why overhaul is so important!! They probably don’t see a lot of fire just watching how they operate.

so now that I watched the entire video let me ask a fire fighter who may read this. I have always felt like the fire department responds with not as many lines as they could. I am not a FF only a victim of house fire and observer. I watched my house and most of these videos and think the FFs need pep in their step and it always seems like less fire damage would happen if they just used more lines. In that thought process I tell myself I'm not a FF, panic helps no one so they look slow but it's a perception from the outside. Am I crazy? I totally respect our FF. They have a hard job and deal with unspeakable tragedies with victims but today I feel like asking the question that always run through my mind.

The reason this fire got the chance to grew that big is lack of engagement..... The ff is way to passiv.... To save this building, they should have open up the roof as soon as the garage fire was suppressed, then they should have used at least 3 handlines, and had s more aggressive attack on all fronts.... Both a, b, c and d side.... Obviously the restart of the fire is due to lack of a real wet down... And a fire watch..... After the fire is "put out" there will always be hotspots that can reegnite a fire....

Normally I am not critical of another Department but there is NO EXCUSE to have a rekindel. One of the clues was the fact that fire broke out by the garage on the left side indicating fire in the walls. The way the smoke pushing out of the attic was the first clue to a flashover. I would NEVER put my men or women on any roof like that. I hope there were no serious injuries. I feel for the homeowner that lost their home due to improper job performance.

I must ask this question: why does it take a long time for the firemen to get water to the building? At the beginning of the film the trucks and men are already prepared to go, but they are not watering down the flames, but standing around, waiting on the hooking latter to be in place,. 2nd question is, why do firefighters break the roof or windows? Does not the fire go out of control more when Air hits the fire?. Yes. firemen are just letting the situation become worst. I know in NY, as a kid, the firemen would have the hose on the houses as soon as they arrived. Maybe the policies have changed?

Prayers that everyone is safe and everyone was out safe.I am so sorry for the home owners loss please stay safe

Born & raised in Neptune Twp. Hamilton Fire Department & Hamilton First Aid for 8 years before I became a USAF AARF. Since Glendola responded, this must be near Shark River Park or Western Hamilton Garden's. Thanks for my stroll down memory lane.

0mg the only thing left standing is the garage where the first fire started. How ironic.

So sad for the family... 😪 🙏

The last call there I would have just hit it with the deck gun

Somebody going g around the neighborhood settingfires?

So was it a rekindle or did it get torched after the departments left? Either way… Doesn’t look good…

Not a firefighter but this seems inexcusable that they didn't properly snuff the fire out properly the 1st time.

This one's knocked... Alright, we've got a fully-involved structure here... **frame collapses**

When you live on Neptune, it takes quite some time for the fire trucks to arrive!

Chief this place looks familiar. 🇬🇧👍🤣😂

A new door, some windows, a little paint, good as new.

The hose man needs to get some strength if he’s going to be on the nozzle. When facing a rolling, involved fire like this, the isn’t any good reason to not have water flowing on the fire.

Incident commander should be fired or step down ! How long was the rekindle burning before someone saw it ?

Roof vented.....done Spot fires extinguished....done Under control, let's all go home. Oh wait.....

Great catch !! Dam they suck at overhaul !! lol no one had a TIC ?? Thermal imagining camera

That beautiful fence. Come on guys.

“The cause of either fire is unknown?” I’d say we all pretty much know what the cause of the second fire was LOL. Like maybe perhaps, the first fire?

Same house? A rekindle? The tower that was in front is gone?

Fire in the walls....a few embers got missed. Homeowner came back after everything and saw reignition then just waited to ensure a full replacement payout. The second half of the video makes it clear the FD wrote off the house and just prevented fire spread on the second response. With no life saftey threats, that would be what usually happens. Many departments in the USA will pull back when lives aren't at threat and just play a defensive strategy. Basically they knock it down in the first 15 minutes, the time it takes to search and save, or the building becomes a loss.

A certain saying about “ass” and “elbow” seems highly applicable here

This is one option for "Remodeling" the ubiquitous, classic American 1960's raised-ranch house with a split-level entryway.

The owner was probably thinking some of her personal possessions were okay and then finds out the whole thing burned to the ground after the fire dept left.

was kinda confused at first, then i read the description and it all made sense.

Am I right in saying that most houses have a ventilation vent on the side of houses?

What gets me is - the fire brigade must have thought they had that fire under control, if not extinguished - so apparently they all went home - MEANWHILE, the smoldering remnants of the blaze must have reignited and spread undetected throughout the house! What an embarrassment it must have been for that crew to be summoned back to the scene only to find the house destroyed.

Wait, this happened after the departments left right? You can see them pulling out the hoses again.

I hate to say it but that house was doomed the moment that garage caught on fire. I can't believe that was the same house. When I was in high school I came home one day and there was a house fire where, sadly, two kids lost their lives. This was about 3 pm in the afternoon. Later that night about 2 am the house caught fire again and it was worse than before. I just remember driving by on my way to school seeing all the fire trucks parked out front of it. These things happen.

Well give them credit they saved the garage

Sad to see a nice home totally destroyed by fire; the insurance company will write it off.

Typical yank firies, how the hell could you loose that place.. seriously

Venting a roof without a mask on?!!! You have got to be kidding me!!!

this leaves you with so many questions? Arson? did they leave the house to soon with hot spots?

I know we fire buffers like to criticize but, hopefully, everyone went home safe. They can always rebuild.

Hopefully they had insurance on their home.

3 words. Thermal imaging camera. A rekindle today is absolutely inexcusable. You don't pick up until you know the fire is out.

What's with the dbag EMS guy around the 1130 mark, "don't get me" Like on video? Uummmm, he's allowed to jackwagon!

So, what happened? I'am so confused, I thought that the fire department had the fire completely put out! Does anybody know what started the fire in the first place? Was it arson? Were the home owners home?

Such nice and pretty Fire trucks...I wonder how and what they use them for...???... Other than parades....Certainly didn't use them in this case, it seems....

No matter how well you overhaul this can and does happen, unfortunately to all fire departments!

As far as tactics the first go, really all I can see wrong is the guys on the roof. Available visibility of all 4 sectors is limited to alpha, bravo, bravo charlie corner. Based on burn patterns visible I'm think the po was charlie side rear of the garage, most likely outside. The fake shake siding, foam board, corner channels and soffit brought it right to the attic. If true (should assume by the color and medial turbulence of the smoke from the gable vents)There is no telling what is under that roof. Being it first broke thru the roof at charlie side towards delta is another reason I believe po was ground level charlie towards delta. So that part of the roof had been the longest, but also meaning the entire charlie sector of the roof was going the longest as well...That aside, a look thru the alpha window shows evidence of all heat and smoke being evacuated out thru the already burning thru roof, but also the gable vents. So really there absolutely no reason to add any openings for vv...if anything add some more points for horizontal ventilation on the first and a half floor...also no need to risk lives to be on top of a roof with evidence of much longer burn time under it. Anyway my observation from what is visible.

Looks like Sylvania township FD in ohio. They are known as foundation savers for a reason, looks like they have competition 😳

Good grief. It's like they gave up on it and just let it burn to the ground.

I just don’t understand with ALL that apparatus there and all the manpower and hydrants around, how this even happens. It doesn’t make a lot of sense.

@11:30 What did he say as he passed by? "Don't get....?"

It wasn't out!..A Re Kindle!...

I hate to say it but they screw up. Fire departments have tools the can show them where hot spot are so they can do there job right. They failed to do there job right and burn down someone house because they where in a hurry to get back to the station.

very odd, newer construction so there's no balloon walls , most likely built before light weight crap, attic opened from roof, seems knocked down, then fully involved,. This house must of has a a gas leak

NFD "we always get it right the second time".

@4:08 I Wish these Firefighters were Wearing Breathing Apparatus, Here In My State Of Victoria in Australia, So Many Firefighters Have Gone Home/Heaven Due to Toxic Smoke Inhalation, Just Doing their Job. This Job As A Firefighter is Deadly. So Many Suffer from Cancer due to the toxic Fumes. To all Firefighters In America, Australia You are Hero's. I Salute Them all. Kindest thoughts to you all and your families and Furbabies. 😥👩‍🚒👨‍🚒🚒

I hate that we don't bury electrical wiring. It's so ugly and it gets exposed to all the bad weather and fallen trees. Guess they left too soon. When my condo building caught on fire they said this could happen and it did but one truck had stayed on site and put it out. What the fire doesn't get the water will.

We see a lot of rekindles in older homes, especially those with balloon frame construction. Where the fire can go up, down, across, under and above and be virtually undetectable, even with all the modern advances in technology.

they stand there and wait for it to burn down...and 1 hose??

My department has a extended firewatch after all structure fires.

9minutes,why are they putting water on it?

I respect firemen and the job they do for our communities, so please don't be offended by my comment. How the hell does this happen with all of the manpower that was on scene and with today's technology? Don't they have thermo scanners that can detect hotspots? If not and this is something that can happen, they shouldn't fully leave until they are positive the entire fire has been put out. Wouldn't it be common sense to leave part of a crew there on scene to monitor the home and to prevent a re-kindle from happening?

Well that's embarrassing !!

I’ve seen rekindling before but whoa 😳

Great job on not doing your job FD

Six firemen just standing around, why not grab a hose and head to the back of house? Absolutely no enthusiasm or professionalism fire fighting for this house..

1st dump your monitor, 2nd the decision for an aerial attack was way to late

Let's face facts here - the firemen did their best to extinguish the blaze, but by the time they left the scene the first time around, that house was ALREADY RUINT past salvaging. It is almost as if the house itself, knowing that it had no future, re-ignited and burned itself the rest of the way to the ground, as a kindly gesture to its unfortunate owners to spare them the expense of having it torn down, which they otherwise would have been required to pay.

You can spend hours and hours and hours overhauling and if you miss 1 ember it can reignite. Its happened before and it doesn't mean anyone is doing a bad job. It happens to the best departments. Unfortunately with a rekindle there is usually alot of ventilation and open doors so the fire has direct access to loads of air and it takes off fast. Before y'all come on here and say that they did a bad job, learn the logistics of structural firefighting. It happens. Get over it

They have to do a better job of overhauling unless someone wanted to make sure it was a total loss lol it looks like the FD left and had to come back usually a rekindle won’t go up that fast 🤔

And Hopefully they got it out by now?

That's a shame.The whole house is gone.Asbury park or Long Branch should have assisted.

Sad for the family. Awful firefighting to permit a rekindle like that to happen.😞