Gareth Cliff, I enjoy your eloquence and intellect. You improve with age. Thank you for having Gareth as your guest Alec.

Listen to cliff central on a regular basis, but so good to to hear the master GC get interviewed instead of interviewing someone. Well done Alec

Thank you Alec Hogg....... great to have Gareth Cliff on your podcast 👏👏👏👏👏👏

South Africans living abroad are eagerly observing the unfolding political events in their home country and hoping for a better future for everyone.

Considering a 20% chance of greater war in the Northern Hemisphere, South Africa is a good place to be.

Alex, you & Gareth should also consider having an interview with Citizen Concern lady who has more than 13k more follower's.

100% agree Douglas Murray is brilliant !

Let those crooked and corrupt have it, Gareth! Never a truer word spoken about many of the globe's politicians!

Finally!! Been waiting for Gareth to be on biz news

First thing that caught my eye is the perfect book shelf and even the paper and book on his desk is strait as a ruler..says his a perfectionist.....

Great thinker 5 fm was never the same when he left

Thumbs up Gareth, always great to listen to you 👍

Wow. Opened my eyes. Excellent Alec. Great stuff

This is so funny. My wife, who was always against moving to SA, just surprised me, she wanted to know how expensive real estate is. 😏

Wow Gareth..Well Done.Blessings. Magnus.

We need to make this country work. Gone are the days of running to the UK and Australia among others which are now dystopian hell holes

I lived in Southern Europe and traveled many countries in Europe for over a decade. After 6 to 7 years, I really became homesick. Don't know what it is, but the people of South Africa are really special. We have many attributes about why South Africa is so beautiful but for me, the people really do it for me! I love South Africa.

I'll never forget driving in morning traffic with Gareths very first radio5 morning show. He stuttered and fumbled his way through to the point that the producer cut him from the last 5 or 10 minutes playing only music and ads. He did quite well the next morning though... If only if only I could have predicted and recorded that first show ...

I remember John Burns of 702 said , you will be a big one , now you are ,well done

Gareth, your comment about people choosing to watch and follow guys like yourself like Alec because of what and who you are is spot on! We listen to what you say, because it’s true! No bullshit!

Awesome interview thoroughly enjoyed it

Great chat, I respect Gareth for his intellect and eloquence in equal measure. I think though, that he, and many other commentators, have it wrong when they talk of the latest election results being indicative of the "general feeling" amongst South Africans (who voted -- big shock how many abstained) that they want a government to work together for a common good. I opine that in fact that people have different ideas about how SA should be run, in terms of general policy and direction, and that was evidenced by the election outcome. It's nice to "think" that people said the former, but the disparity and diversity of results points in another direction. To be positive, I think it can be interpreted as the populace looking elsewhere (than the ANC) for effective management of, and development in, South Africa, which helps everyone. Lastly, its a fallacy, I believe, to talk of a government "creating jobs," and I really wish public influencers would rather speak to the truth: which is to say that government can "create enabling circumstances" for jobs to be realised through policy and effective implementation of such, and one of the most important enablers is EDUCATION. For to be smart about the world, history, technology, communication, science and the natural world, is to self-create the circumstances necessary for the populace to generate their own work, businesses, machines, agencies, endeavours and technologies to drive work and economic development!!!! Well educated people can make smarter choices as to who their leaders should be, and so on...this relies on our current government (our NEW government!) realising, en masse (perhaps they have?), the intrinsic potential within our people to create and drive THEMSELVES forward, AND AFFECTING THE POLCY TO ACHIEVE IT. I wish them strength and foresight to HELP move us all forward. Thanks Alec, as usual, brilliant show and work.

Can't believe it, Cliff Central still exists!?

I'm so pleased to see Gareth Cliff on your channel...he is so intelligent and insightful. Well done

I agree what you said about Douglas Murray briliant man

What a pleasure to listen to a bright younger intellectual South African...pride of you Cliff....

Always a pleasure listening to Gareth 🤙🏻

Thanks Alec BN for putting Gareth in the other seat great interview ...Gareth looks so cute 😍 wearing his specs 😊😊😅😮

It would be great if young people had a reliable and non-threatening vehicle in South Africa where we could open up more in terms of cultural celebration and education. Not in a way that causes divide, but in an inclusive way that allows us to actually learn more about one another. I think the lack of mutual understanding and empathy is what is causing the divide in ethnic social boundaries now, and politicians are taking advantage of this for diversion, and are actively boxing us into these mindsets. It's not apartheid causing divide anymore, so we can't blame it anymore. We have adverts in South Africa where a white farmer and a black businessman share a whiskey embracing their differences, but this isn't reality. In reality, it's quite difficult for this to occur on a common basis.

South Africa, In danger of becoming Zimbabwe 2.0, such a shame so much potential.

What has been will be again. What has been done again: There is nothing new under the sun. Bible Ecclesiastes 1:9

Great interview, thank you. Fascinating stuff

Gareth in my eyes you have grown from an irritating dude only about 4-5 years ago to a mature international interviewer. Well done!! It was lovely to see you journey. Really like watching your recent interviews with international guests. Especially the ones with Brett and Johann Hari. Can you try and convince Lex Fridman to come visit our beautiful country - I think he will be impressed.

We are a great nation & well positioned indeed, we are all in this together if we can just get the wheel spinning it will be a paradise on Earth… Nice interview GC

I do believe we should go back to manufacturing our own fertiliser. That I trust would increase our economy considerably.

The fact that you are are fan of Douglas Murray say's it all for me.

Nothing new under the Sun is a bit older than that. Ecclesiastes 1:9.

Nice interview, thanks Alec!

Love this interview.

Alec, "Nothing new under the sun" was first said by Solomon and can be found in Proverbs.

Great interview.

Well done Gareth... And Alec. You've both done a lot, added rational voices... Sometimes pushed that envelope to help stir up average NPC people floating through life

Great interview thanks.

Love Garrett since 5fm🎉

Thank you.

Hey man I new about it. Gareth you rock.

The glasses really suit Gareth!

Great thanks 🙏🏽

John Khun was an amazing person! I remember him from Wits SRC

I concur about Douglas Murray!

Well said

What An Awesome Guy

Great broadcast… good to see Gareth again! I would like to see a beard on you Gareth, would suit you well! Looking forward to sane conversation

This is the original "nothing new under the sun", “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” - Ecclesiastes 1:9 (KJV)

Because wildebeests easily turn into bewilderbeests.

Gareth was blowing his own trumpet during the better half of this interview.

Most indigenous South Africans still require and deserve drastic changes in government. The ANC made a little progress but no doubt were hindered by all the temptations around them. Are you "liberal" white South Africans interested in resolving the horrible legacy of most South Africans which would grow your economy which you say is most important? Seems like you consider this legacy not only not your problem but plan to continue the course. If most South Africans had adequate housing, water, food, electricity, good basic education in sufficient schools, then higher education, access to good healthcare and wages meeting the cost of this living would be beautiful progress for the development of the country. How can a market driven by their exploitation be considered good for them? Its good for a few at the expense of the many. If you really take a moment to consider this senario you realize its not good because there is a senario that's good for all.

Listening to Gareth Cliff here left me the impression that he's basically a right-wing, populist, Trump lover. Way over to the right. Never heard him on the radio and I think I'm unlikely to. He seems to represent a sort of white everyman and he's doing a damn good job of it.

Will there ever be paradise here with idiots deciding policy? 🤔

Gareth Cliff, thinker? Seriously? Raise your standards.

I’m sorry I love biznews and rob hersov but Douglass Murray as your hero!!! Grareth, I’m sorry but I’m done… 😢

Why do you think it is not propaganda and bullshit? It is based on everything that you have read on European history. Why is that not bullshit in this context?