Garmin Swim 2 would be good to review I think. It has settings for Pool Swim, Open Water Swim, Run, Bike, and Cardio (Indoor). Which meets most peoples needs for only $220/£220

Coros Vertix and Apple Watch. Is Apple watch any good for running?

@@AI-xi4jk I havent had the chance to test out the new one first hand but I've heard good things. The only thing that drives me nuts about Apple watches is needing to charge daily and also the Battery life in GPS mode. I've heard that apple has really good heart rate accuracy too. Love the Vertix though! Killer watch!

945 vs suunto 9 baro!

No one’s done a serious comparison of specialised Apple Watch fitness/sports apps vs the best in class dedicated fitness/sports watches. To do this you’d first need to find the best Apple Watch apps in each category e.g. swimming, running, gym, cycling, hiking etc. You could create multiple series of videos (or a dedicated channel) just trying to identify the best Apple Watch apps for each category! Become the KZfaq expert on Apple Watch fitness/sports apps. Once ppl realise you’ve done your research, then your expertise in apps will turn heads when you compare the best Apple Watch apps vs best dedicated watches. If it turns out Apple Watch apps aren’t good enough then your research will turn heads at Apple and app developers. Your channel can become the go-to channel for Apple Watch fitness, but more than this - your reviews will tell them what they have to do to catch up with and beat dedicated watches. As each year ticks by you can be the keeper of the competition between Apps vs dedicated watches by updating us at Christmas with the ‘state of the nation’ of how the two camps are doing. If it turns out Apple Watch apps do well on functionality (given all its apps), it would be interesting to see how accurate is is compared to other watches (heart rate, GPS, etc.) Here are some apps to consider: WorkOutDoors (amazingly configurable), RunKeeper, SmartGym, Komoot, Cyclemeter/Runmeter. Given there are so many apps, becoming THE KZfaq expert will be time consuming and difficult, but this also creates a barrier to entry for others, meaning it’ll be easier for you to hold onto this top spot. P.s. everyone knows reviews on AppStore’s and Amazon are rigged with fakes, so your review on apps will give people the truth. One thing to bear in mind - you’ll need to ensure you state the version of the app you’re reviewing. Then subsequent reviews can update progress as newer versions get released. You could setup playlists for each app and all its versions, plus playlists for your top picks.

Thanks so much!

I agree! The 945 is well built and what I like about the plastic case is that if it DOES happen to scratch the scratch is less noticeable due to the material being black all the way through. The Fenix watches tend to show scratches quite obviously. That said, my Fenix 6 DLC has held up incredibly well for the past several months. Thanks for watching!

Glad I could help! 👍

which one did you get? because i am also between these two

I would love to see some of the newer Fenix 6 features on the 945 via a firmware update. However that hasn’t been how Garmin has historically done things. We’ll probably have to wait for the 955 before seeing any of the newer UI.

Good point regarding Maps after purchase. Since I don't know anything about 945/F6 experience: Does garmin offer free maps in case I'd travel to a place not in my native continent and are these maps for free? Cause I've seen Garmin offering Maps offered for about 400 Francs for some regions in Europe … Maps! And if this is true (maps being free) does this mean I can still decide wether to purchase the watch wherever I travel without missing out on garmin maps for my home country?

@@karlbadde7435 With the 945 you get your region maps on the device and there are maps that can be downloaded off of Connect that are specific to a sport. But if you want High Detail maps or maps outside your region they charge extra. Thankfully you can go to garmin.openstreetmap.nl and grab any kind of map at any detail you want.

Thanks! I'm glad I could help!

It's really awful and just repeats and repeats. It's probably free to use because it's the same sort of terrible "oooh ahhh" music that I hear in drone footage videos.

@@elwyn5150 Haha, I'm sorry to torture you like that! I'm still trying to polish my style so I appreciate the feedback. Maybe I'll try something a little less repetitive in the next one. The music hides some of the hissing my microphone setup has :-D

Honestly, I like reviews with no background music at all. If the review is interesting enough there's no need.

@@ChaseTheSummit I loved the music, kept me bouncing and made me excited on potentially getting the watch!

@@ChaseTheSummit There are some softwares like Audacity that you can use to remove the hissing sound from the recording. And It's free. BTW great review.

Congrats! Hope you enjoy it!

@@ChaseTheSummit thank you! So far - it is awe, but I can't figure out how to accurately track a HIIT workout. Garmin forums are suggesting that I track it as cardio, but when the cycles are shorter than 1m (full cycle) it falls short. I've paired it with a Polar H10 and when I run it side by side with Polar Beat the latter is much more accurate.

Happy to help

Thanks for watching!

So to clarify, you do not have a map, right? But can you preload a course onto the watch from the Garmin Connect ap?

Lucy Foster correct!

Niladri Haldar so how does it direct you-a printed list of directions?

I have a three sapphire and scratched my screen this year also wouldn't mind having music so I don't need my phone

@@lucyfoster4082 you can find videos, it uses an arrow, tells you when you are off course and tells you when to turn, I just used it last week for a out of town 20 mile run, works well

It is interesting that Garmin applies their anti-reflective coating to the top of the sapphire while others coat the bottom to prevent it from scratching. That said, my sapphire Fenix 6 still looks new and it's been through hell over the last year. I wouldn't say it's easily scratched like Gorilla Glass but it's certainly a bit more fragile than some other sapphires. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the feedback!

thanks for watching!

Glad it was helpful!

for sure

Would you recommend buying a Fenix 5 plus sapphire nowadays for € 418? I'm looking for a good sportwatch but € 600+ is too much imo

The non saphire in the fenix 6 (f6 pro) is just not as black when backlit. I dont think anyone is beating their $600 or whatever watch up enough to justify the saphire glass, unless its because you stare at it more at night. Both will age just fine untill you buy the next one in 5 years

Haha! I don't know about that but thanks!

Chase the Summit well he doesn’t have such a comparison, yet it’s clearly something people value - just look at your ‘likes’ to ‘dislikes’ ratio on this video...off the charts!

@@GodfreyMann I thought it was just my charming personality 😂. Thanks again for watching!

Hey Matt! I wear the Fenix 6 as my daily right now but it seems to change all the time. I do prefer the lighter weight and lower profile of the 945 even though they're so similar. The bigger screen on the F6 is nice though! Honestly I like the 945 because scratches are less obvious in black plastic vs scratched metal.

@@ChaseTheSummit - Oh yeah, that sounds about right. And I'm guessing you're always testing new watches at this point so 'daily driver' might be hard to define. 👍🏻

The 945 sounds like a good fit. It's essentially a Fenix in a plastic casing and with the newer software updates they're even more similar. Thanks for watching!

I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching.

I should have mentioned the exact sizes in the video! In person that extra .1" is quite noticeable particularly when viewing the map screen.

Fenix 6x pro 1.4'' 280x280

@@jurko25 I wish I could get that big screen without the 51mm case size!

This is just a feature overview of whats new in the Fenix 6 compared to the 945. I'll need to spend more time with the Fenix 6 to publish my "full review" about it. From the time I've spent with the F6 I can say that it seems just as "fast" as the 945 when scrolling through widgets. Perhaps a touch faster when scrolling or zooming in the maps but not by much. I'm assuming they're using the same CPU for the F6 that was in the 945 but I can't say for sure. There's nothing wrong with the plastic on the 945. Saying its "plastic" isn't an insult... It's just a fact and is a major factor in why the device is cheaper. It also helps with weight reduction and it's also nice that if it's scratched it's still black underneath instead of a shiny silver streak in the metal. I'm assuming they'll port over MOST of the features to the 945. But they may leave some exclusive to the Fenix 6 just as a selling point. I guess we shall see! Thanks for watching the video!

Better bluetooth range (both to a phone and to sensors) than the Fenix devices, from my observations. I think it's because there is less metal in the contruction to interfere with the signal. So not only do you get a ligher device, you get better range as well. Button mushiness can be an issue on the 945, so make sure you buy it from a vendor who has a decent returns policy.

If they're the same price there's not really a reason to go with the 945 unless you REALLY want a slightly smaller and lighter watch. They're both great! Thanks for watching!

@@ChaseTheSummit good to know! I'm torn for the same reason, but yeah I could get them for the same price pretty much...maybe like $20 difference. Been going back and forth between the two for weeks now haha. I have the vivoactive 3 currently and want to upgrade. I would be using it for primarily running as well as some hiking :)

You're right. Indoors and under backlight the gorilla glass is easier to read. But outdoors they're basically the same. The trade off is the indestructible nature of Sapphire compared to the relatively scratchable Gorilla Glass. I managed to scratch my 945 the first day I owned it, but I've never scratched sapphire and I've owned lots of watches! After you add a screen protector to the Gorilla glass you lose a little bit of contrast anyways. Idk tough call!

there's a thread with hundreds of comments on the garmin forums about the display. What I got out of it is that some Fenix 6 (including the one in this video) have a blue-ish tint and the blacks and not "really" black. Some Fenix (there is very clear photos in the garmin thread) have a really "good" screen with real blacks and no blue tint. Garmin doesn't acknowledge a default, they simply admit it's different but within specs. When I go for my Fenix6, I'll make sure to have the "good" display. Do not settle for less than perfect at this price point. for me it's not acceptable.

I think the 945 is closer related to the Fenix 6. The 945 offers 36 hours of GPS battery life while the Fenix 5 Plus only offers 18 hours in comparison. Also, since this video was released Garmin has released a handful of updates that brought a bunch of the Fenix 6 features to the 945 including Widget Glances, Updated Widgets, and more data fields per page in activities. To my knowledge the 5 Plus hasn't received these updates. Thanks for watching!

Thank you!

Thanks for sharing. I don't think you can go wrong either way!

Thaanks! I'm trying to get my hands on a Vivoactive 4. Stay tuned!

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks!

Thank you!

Hey thanks! Yeah I ended up sticking with the Fenix 6 as a daily driver mainly for the new features like widget glances, and Power Modes, which have since been rolled into the 945. The Sapphire dispay was also a big reason as its much harder to scratch. The 945 is still fantastic and I love how light it is. Both are great options.

Sure is! I actually have a newer comparison with all of the latest firmware updates on my channel 👍

Both watches have very similar offline maps and navigation. Both can follow a course and sync with Garmin Connect course builder. The Fenix 6 has a slight edge with its updated map themes but not by much. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching!

For some reason the 945 has one of the brightest screens of any Garmin I've tried. The Fenix 6 isn't bad at all but the 945 is a bit more contrasty and vivid. Also, keep in mind that sapphire transfers less light so it's a bit dimmer overall even with the backlight off. Hope that helps.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll consider that for another video.

Thanks for watching! This video was made before Garmin released the firmware update that allowed 6 data fields. They've since rolled out additional features to the 945.

​@@ChaseTheSummit oh sorry! :) however it is normal that sometimes there are gaps in the pulse OX graph where the sensor seems to be unable to measure?

@@l_costa10 pulsox is somewhat temperamental. You need to be sitting completely still for it to take a reading. Also it needs to be set to "all day mode" otherwise it will only be enabled at altitude. Hope that helps!

With my 945 it kind of "broke in" after a while and became a little more mushy. They still work fine but definitely not like they did out of the box. The Fenix on the other hand remains clicky. Thanks for watching!

@@ChaseTheSummit For the serious coin that Garmin are charging for the 945, why can't they make the buttons work properly (ie with clickiness and proper tactile feedback) from day one, and stay that way for the life of the device? Thanks for the reply.

Thanks! I don't have a Tactix Delta or the means to get one at this point so I'm not sure if I can help there!

Thanks!

Totally agree. The Sapphire is in a whole different league!

Glad you like them!

Thanks for watching!

Glad it was helpful!

Since this video was posted Garmin has included Pace Pro in a beta firmware update in the 945. Once installed, It can be found under courses > pace pro. Hope that helps!

For sure, protectors are ideal.

Glad it was helpful! 🎅

Yup, those could be added as custom data fields. I believe HR will be there by default but more can be added.

Chase the Summit Thanks ! Appreciate !!!! I was trying to decide between 945 and f6.

Battery life between the Fenix 6 and 945 are quite similar with the Fenix 6 having a slight edge due to its software optimization. I was able to complete a 100 mile ultra marathon in 26 hours wearing the Fenix 6, when I crossed the finish line it had 30% battery left. The Garmin Warranty is 1 year. The battery is not user replaceable but garmin will replace it for a small fee.

Thank you!

You are correct. On the 945 the barometer hole is located under the HR sensor on the back of the watch. However, there is a small "gutter" that allows it to breathe. I personally never had an issue with it becoming clogged but I could see it happening a lot easier than the Fenix 6. The 945 is SO much lighter though which is really nice and with all of the new firmware updates its recieved it's basically got the same firmware as the Fenix 6 now. A lot has changed since this video was posted!

Thanks a lot. Both are very attractive to me... Also thinking of getting the 6S because of weight... Display should be the same like 945 und it is lighter than the middle 6... 6X is too much...

These are really tough devices especially if you opt for the Sapphire screen. If you did manage to crack it the screen is not user replaceable unless you're skilled and can find the parts on Ebay. Garmin will repair the watch for a price or offer you a discount on a replacement in most cases.

@@ChaseTheSummit Anyway keep watching HR sensor. Mine in fr935 started to cracking with no reason. I just saw photos with broken sensors in f5x and fr945. No obvious reason and they are cracking after half year. I can send photos if you want.

They'll both do the job since they're very similar in specs. The Fenix 6 will give you a slightly larger screen and a bit more customization in the power modes. I actually have a new video comparing these two with the latest firmware updates you should check out! Thanks for watching.

I actually notice the new video right after I commented. Thanks for the help!

Interesting that you had such issues with your 945's. Thanks for sharing!

Yeah it's a tough one! The 945 is certainly a better value but the Fenix 6 is better built. I do like the lighter weight of the 945 though. With the latest firmware updates they're both pretty similar functionality wise too. Although, the 945 did not get the "power modes" that the F6 has. Thanks for watching!

The winner really depends on your use case. Out of those three the 945 has the most features so it's the "winner" in my opinion.

Thanks for the kind words! I don't have a video review of the Fenix 5X but I do have a written review of it over on my website below. chasethesummit.com/2018/06/01/garmin-fenix-5x-a-trail-runners-review/

Thank you! Cheers!

Ouch! That's an expensive watch to scratch. Yeah you're probably right that you scratched the coating and not the sapphire. I wish Garmin coated it under the glass instead of on top but it probably wouldn't be as effective at reducing glare. I never had an issue with sapphire but I have scratched a lot of "glass" watches. Thanks for watching.

@@ChaseTheSummit Yeah, I think it has to be on top from what I've heard... Always a pleasure Chase!

Garmin 645 is an awesome device with most of the features of the 945. However if you need more battery life I'd say check out the Coros Apex for the same price! I have a video review of that as well.

They both work great for me. However I do need to strap down the Fenix 6 a bit tighter to prevent the weight of it from wobbling around. The 945 is so light it doesn't budge.

Hey Lucy! I think DC Rainmaker may have some videos regarding navigation. I personally don't create routes ON the watch too often. I typically create routes on a computer and them navigate them on the watch after the fact. I also use the "Back to start" feature quite frequently when I'm just trying to explore new trails. It's a pretty handy tool if you can get around its quirks! Thanks for watching.

Maybe there is a different reason for varying contrast between watches. There are even watches of the same model, but very different contrast: forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-6-series/174384/two-sapphire-fenix-6-pro-s-backlight-contrast-issues/929990#929990

The 945 is a big step up from the 935 in my opinion. Mainly because you get full mapping and navigation. But also, music, wifi, and advanced training metrics. I'd say in GPS mode you'll get 5-10 additional hours of battery life compared to your 935. I ran a couple of ultras with the 945 and after 10 hours of running I still had 65% left even with navigation turned on! Thanks for watching!

@@ChaseTheSummit thanks for the response!

Watch out for the Asia versions on amazon. A lot of the discounted Garmins on amazon are asia version and are different from the US version.

Thanks!

Nope. None of these sport watches offer that. You'd probably need something like android wear or an apple watch. That's the trade off with having amazing battery life. A bit less processing power for things like this!

The case is screwed together. I don't believe it uses tape.

@@ChaseTheSummit I meant the clasp on the bracelet!

Oh I understand now!

Are you referring to the bezel? Yes, it will scratch. The gray DLC coated version is more durable but will scratch if hit hard enough on something like brick, or rock. Personally, I don't mind a few knicks or dings on the bezel as long as the glass stays scratch-free. To me, it adds character!

@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks for your reaction. Yes the bezel is what I mean. I think ik will go for the Fenix 6 Sapphire because of the looks. One last question for you. I got now the Garmin Forerunner 245 Music and wil normally do runs for 5 till 15 kilometer. Do you think I will feel a huge different while running with the Fenix 6 comparing to the Forerunner because of the weight. Or is it maybe better to look at the Fenix 6S if I will use it for running the most?

The 6 Pro is about as big as I can go on my wrist. The Fenix 6x is the same size as the Fenix 3 HR, or 5X. It's certainly larger and heavier. I'm a small guy so these big watches become a bit intrusive but for some it's not a big deal. I'd suggest checking them out in person before making a decision. Thanks for watching!

@@ChaseTheSummit i Would like the extra battery time on the 6x, but man, that is a big watch. hadent considered the 945, i will check it out also.

They're both fantastic for ultras. The Fenix 6 probably has a slight advantage thanks to the Power Modes, larger screen, and more detailed maps. I've used the 945 on several ultras and the Fenix 6 on a 100 Miler. Both work great! Hope that helps!

They do scratch. I won't say "easily" but it certainly happens. I find it adds character but if scratches really bother you you'll be annoying. The DLC gray sapphire version is the most durable of the bunch with it's "diamond like coating". Thanks for watching!

@@ChaseTheSummit thanks for the reply, I just ordered the Fenix 6 Pro but bought a silicone bezel protector for work! 😁

Both the 945 and Fenix 6 offer offline music. You can upload your own MP3's using Garmin Express or sync services like Amazon Music, Deezer, Spotify, and IHeartRadio. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.

They do support it! However I'm not much of a swimmer so I'm not sure I'll get around to testing it. If I do, I'll be sure to update! Thanks for watching!

Chase the Summit thanks for the reply. I have a 920XT and hrm swim so might do a comparison myself sometime if i get a fenix 6 pro or FR945