Review of Garmin GI 275 in three configurations: PFD, HSI, and EIS.
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@savagecub3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding ! Your avionics bill now exceeds the entire value of the aircraft !
@breddi1Ай бұрын
Many of us spend as much on the panel as we do on the acquisition of the plane…. I’m in that club. That being said I’m in full agreement that to do that in a Cessna 150 is kind of nuts… unless it’s intended to be an IFR trainer. I can’t imagine anyone would really consider a 150 for a legit IFR traveling aircraft.
@stephen40293 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I’ve just had the 3 old standby instruments in my 2006 G1000 Cessna 182 replaced with the GI 275 standby ADI. Some of the things that weren’t intuitive for me have been cleared up in this wonderful video you have produced. Great job.
@orlinlewis6224 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen so far on the GI 275's. Thanks...
@sethhoran74092 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have been looking for something concise that describes the functionality of the 275's while I wait for mine to be installed. This fits the bill beautifully!
@amy72112 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I’m getting two GI 275’s installed in my B36TC and I’ve been searching all over for someone to show me how the knob and touch screen work together. You covered it for me. Now I’ll be more prepared to fly my baby home from the avionics shop next week. Thank you!
@mattolmstead61502 жыл бұрын
How are you liking them?
@amy72112 жыл бұрын
@@mattolmstead6150 They’re awesome! I love that they keep the retro look of the panel. They have beautiful screens and are very easy to learn to use. I also love that they replaced my autopilot annunciator panel as the annunciators are right on the AI. We lost about 40 lbs by removing our faulty vacuum system. The database downloads via WiFi from the 275 and Garmin pilot are very easy to do. One thing I didn’t realize is that you cant receive traffic targets on them with a portable ADS-B in device. You have to have compatible equipment for that feature. But that’s what the iPad does for us. I also recommend getting the Garmin USB port along with it for major uploads or software troubleshooting.
@Devyn6Seven3 жыл бұрын
Really informative as I'm comparing these with the G5s. Thank you for being so thorough!
@follker3 жыл бұрын
best 152 panel ive ever seen, very clean, very neat.
@sphiliben3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout. We appreciate the unseen product placement.
@pilotgirl59532 жыл бұрын
Very Informative! Love your comment about avionics costing more than your aircraft, I was wondering that just a few seconds prior to you mentioning it!
@keithradford46833 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the 275 options. I’m looking to upgrade my 172 and now thinking on the lines of two G5’s and one 275 for the fuel oil T & P’s.. I think they are perhaps a touch small for a primary instrument for those of us with older eyes!!
@MagicBiscuitShow3 жыл бұрын
Sweet panel. Kewl Beans. 90% of my training (back in the day) was in the 150s ... the rest of my time was sprinkled among the Cherokee 140, 160, the Arrow, the Archer, the Warrior, the 172 and a 1947 V Bonanza. Also, got my multi in a decrepit Piper Apache. Cheers, Chuck (NE Florida) : +)
@LeeRoyJenkz Жыл бұрын
Wow that is the cleanest glass cockpit I have seen. Absolutely love it.
@RMAG Жыл бұрын
Love the name. At least I have chicken..
@cehupper3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed! Thank you!
@hunterofaspids52543 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the 275 EIS for my 182. Thank you for your video, it’s very well done. Can you tell me how much weight your aircraft lost with all that old equipment taken away?
@theflightpractitioner72884 жыл бұрын
Very helpful information - thanks for uploading.
@flymoyer38023 жыл бұрын
That is a nice panel. Thanks for the great review. The GI 275 is just too expensive for me.
@MediosCorporativos2 жыл бұрын
How much is the price on the GI 275?
@johncarr1234 жыл бұрын
Do you enable the built in Conext 510 functionality in the 275? Add a iPad mount with a ipad min to display EIS on the iPad using garmin pilot
@cvlenjnir3 жыл бұрын
I am about to add 2 gi275s to my plane. I’m curious if you miss the other steam gauges. I’m trying to decide if it would be useful to keep the airspeed, altimeter, and maybe an extra cdi. Would you be good in imc with your setup? I would appreciate your thoughts.
@AB-jm3iu Жыл бұрын
Great video, nice setup would of loved if you did an IAP for landing, wonder what was the down time when the upgrade was done?
@muhammadsteinberg4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of trying to upgrade my panel. Not trying to be noisy but can you give me an approximate figure of the install cost? You have given me an excellent idea for my panel upgrade. Hilarious when you said this is probably stupid and then went on to do it...Been there done that myself 🤫. Very informative equipment vid for me. Thanks! Btw...150/152 best trainers ever made imo.
@GeorgiaNFA3 жыл бұрын
What was cost of the installation of the 275 suite? Minus the GPS. I understand they run about 2k each.
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
The GI 275's are significantly more expensive than 2K. They start at $3,995 MSRP and installation varies depending on if they are being integrated with autopilots and what is being removed from the aircraft etc., but its several thousand dollars of labor.
@organphil3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very useful video.
@factoryracecar3 жыл бұрын
I just updated the software on my GI275. Now it should be able to display the wind information. How do I go about it? I did have OAT probe installed of course.
@savagecub3 жыл бұрын
I need a remote box that will give the GI275 its information. I don’t have the panel space for the typical Garmin navigators. Any ideas ?
@sparkie951 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video... One thing I noticed, you referenced the ADSB IN in the fact of not seeing any traffic, so you were good.... That is a False assumption... You can only see A/C with ADSB-Out and not all a/c are equipped with ADSB out... you only need it in Class C Airspace and above! Very nice video...
@PilotDaveAviation3 жыл бұрын
Wow that looks amazing !!!
@Cherfield-D-Blessedman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your video. Just asking how much is the total budget to upgrade the instruments panel for Cessna 172 IFR? Please.
@120archer3 жыл бұрын
We’re you able to increase your useful load with this setup? If so , how much ?
@meteorac3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informative presentation. Very professional. I will certainly consider this for the upgrade i plan for my 79 Bonanza. Question: Does the HSI have a built in compass or does it need an external one. I have only DG right now. Thankk you
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
There is a remote magnetometer called a GMU 11 that you need to provide magnetic heading. Usually installed inside a wing.
@delan-63 жыл бұрын
What kind of avionics do you have on your plane?
@madelinescafe8573 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful...thanks for the video
@dennisdunaway59564 жыл бұрын
First I liked your Video, I am a little confused, you said that 2 275's can take the place of a six-pack. From Garmin's Webinar on the 275 it is Primary for the Airspeed, Attitude Indicator, Altimeter, and Turn Coordinator, I don't see where it is primary for the VSI. Just wondering your thoughts on the VSI removal.
@swish61434 жыл бұрын
Dennis Dunaway I think it is the small box beside altitude that shows VS.
@hosegooseman53 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks !!!
@karga2tilki2 жыл бұрын
awesome! suppose a C150 marketprice is maximum about 50k€ fo a good one. What is the price of the new instruments incl. Installation cost?
@Cess08van2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Really nice!
@IFlySRQ3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video review.
@clout13r2 жыл бұрын
How much weight do you save compared to the old panel?
@elliotbritton94544 жыл бұрын
Wow, great review! Is there a different way to select altitude on the pfd besides touching the screen? Also, is a subscription required for synthetic vision? Thanks
@craigthorsley4 жыл бұрын
Synthetic Vision Requires an unlock. Runs just under $1,000
@in2flying3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Question How much extra does the 930 engine monitor give you that the little 275 doesnt? Are you cramming too much engine info into that little of a circle I guess is my question, Thanks!
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
A JPI 930 gives you a much larger screen with all the info at once. To try to cram all that into a standard round gauge would be too much. So the most important stuff is put in the main page and supporting/secondary stuff on other pages. It works.
@DreadnautVS3 жыл бұрын
12:39 "Twice the value of the aircraft" - That's exactly what I was thinking when I was watching this review. I'm not knocking it, do what makes ya happy! Wish I could afford that setup! Neat to see the 6 pack replaced with 2 Gi-275's though, it really cleans that panel up.
@michaelpoworoznik31593 жыл бұрын
nice job Bono
@joseleonardomoreno89573 жыл бұрын
How much would it cost me to put a similar package on mine ?
@daviddoherty18562 жыл бұрын
I recently got a quote for 2 275s and they indicated that would allow them to remove the vacuum ai and dg. Are you sure you can eliminate the remainder of the 6 pack?
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
As long as you have both GI-275’s With ADAHRS and Batteries and reversionary switch. Your installer should know this if they read the STC.
@BFETile2 жыл бұрын
What was complete install cost for this? Thanks
@in2flying3 жыл бұрын
I know this doesn't apply to the trainer your in but the concern i have on the 275 vs the G5 is the back battery. Thoughts?
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
What’s the concern? The G5 has a longer battery time than the GI 275. But if your running on battery that means you’ve had a complete electrical failure. Normally if you are having a complete electrical failure you lost an alternator, you turn off non-essential, equipment, declare an emergency, and land. If your main battery gets so low that your avionics completely turn off and you’re running on the GI 275 battery you still have an hour or so to get to the ground. If this all happened in IMC and you stayed flying long enough to drain your main battery, and drain your GI 275 battery, you severely mismanaged the emergency.
@chriss55493 жыл бұрын
Did this installation add useful load, or was there no weight reduction with the modern avionics? Thanks for all of the info!
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
There was no weight reduction on this specific install.
@xpjet96962 жыл бұрын
@@RMAG Just bought a 150 and may do similar panel. How is it that there is no weight savings after removing all of the old gauges and instruments? That's part of the reason I want to do the upgrade. Thanks for the detailed video!
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
@@xpjet9696 it’s the GTN 750 with the remote transponder and audio panel and we added the sensors for the EIS, added a second NAV/COMM. so we added stuff that was not there before.
@michaelpoworoznik31593 жыл бұрын
great video
@andrewraymond64555 ай бұрын
Would you be willing to go to share a picture of your panel? I’m going to be redoing my C150M/150 here in the near future and really like the 3 GI275s
@tsuranix3 жыл бұрын
Can you comment on the regs for this install? I wanted to get rid of all my analog gauges and replace w/ G5s and GI 275, however, we ran into an interpretation where the ASI and Altimeter could not be replaced solely with these units.
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
This interpretation is correct for a G5. The installation of the G5 requires the retention of the mechanical airspeed indicator, altimeter, and vertical speed indicator. • For installations in aircraft approved for IFR operations: • If the G5 is installed as the primary attitude indicator, the existing rate of turn indicator must be retained. • If the G5 is installed as the rate of turn indicator, the existing primary attitude indicator must be retained. • For installations in aircraft approved for VFR-only operations; • The G5 can be installed as the attitude indicator and rate of turn indicator without retention of either the existing attitude indicator or rate of turn indicator. The GI-275 does not have these limitations if you use two ADAHRS with battery backup versions. Have your installer read page 1-31 of the GI 275 install manual
@tsuranix3 жыл бұрын
@@RMAG Thanks! I'll read more on the 275's. Any idea why this is ? Do the 275's meet a different reliability standard that the FAA has?
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
@@tsuranix G5’s were experimental units that were adapted to and became approved for certified aircraft. GI-275’s were designed from the beginning for certified aircraft and is newer technology.
@thunderingbuzzard3 жыл бұрын
Curious why not a G3X + optional EIS module ($12,800 total + install cost) and backup G5 ($2300 + install cost) instead of 275 Attitude ($4000 + install), 275 HSI ($4300 + install) and EIS ($4600 + install)? There is only $2200 difference for the raw hardware (not including installation) between them, but the G3X can do it all on a larger screen. Was the install cost for a G3X prohibitive? Or maybe the G3X wouldn't fit on the panel. I'm genuinely curious. Loved the video. Great setup!
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
G3X would not fit. We were originally going to do two G5’s but when the GI275’s came out we liked them a lot better. The EIS was an afterthought...
@gliderfs6213 жыл бұрын
G3X would fit between the yokes, and i think there’s different sizes.
@MediosCorporativos2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the G3X installed in your airplane, and where can I get it at that price?
@georgecrothall9411 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video for you, you mentioned a fuel sending unit I had not heard of and didn’t quite catch the name of. Could you tell me the name of those? I would love to have better in tank sensors in mine.
@RMAG Жыл бұрын
CiES Senders. ciescorp.net
@dnk25662 жыл бұрын
Well, I think the panel looks great and if you like it then it doesn't matter how much is put into the aircraft. Having said that, would you care to share the cost of such a project, hardware needed plus typical installation. Additionally it looks like the only autopilot a cessna 150/152 can have is an STEC-50. Woiuld the STEC-50 integrate with the GI 275's? What a great way to get hundreds of hours of actual IFR practice and real world in before moving into something more complex, etc.
@clout13r Жыл бұрын
I am getting 3 gi 275 in my 150. just for the 3 gi275 installed is going to be around 35000$ canadian. In a couple years ill add a gps, and ADS-B. that will probably be another 20 000... paid 35 000 for the plane, there is really no end to the amount of money one can spend on their plane.
@BFETile2 жыл бұрын
What was the cost for this install?
@kylegoeman52373 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@PatrickAlexanderThePilot3 жыл бұрын
How much for this setup ?
@kmartin31042 жыл бұрын
My gi-275 has temp probe installed but for some reason not showing OAT that i can see or Standard rate turn bank angle markers either, wonder where the problem is?
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
It’s either the probe is not connected properly or it’s a software config issue. Have your Garmin dealer/installer fix it.
@kmartin31042 жыл бұрын
@@RMAG yeah i called them about it. thanks
@blister68843 жыл бұрын
At 18.5 mins in you said everything that needs to be said about these! Great quality, great features, but.......!
@planelander2 жыл бұрын
Never thought id hear a 152 having ahars aligning lol 😂
@majohnson552 жыл бұрын
Rmag. Hi there. Is there anyway that I can chat with you off line??? I'm a Mooney M20K owner with an avionics issue and I was wondering if I could get some assistance from a Garmin PRO.
@claytonstarwalt99143 жыл бұрын
What do you use for a clock to be IFR compliant?
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
The clock is a mid continent www.truebluepowerusa.com/products/aviation/usb-charging-ports/md93/
@brentfitzgerald7553 жыл бұрын
I’m not familiar with all the features of a Garmin 750, but if it has a clock feature, which I’m sure it does, then that will suffice for meeting the IFR clock requirement. Not to say the Mid Continent clock isn’t worth installing, though... www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/practice_areas/regulations/Interpretations/data/interps/2016/Nkugba%20-%20%282016%29%20Legal%20Interpretation.pdf
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
@@brentfitzgerald755 I assumed he was asking me what my clock was because it’s highly visible in the video. I don’t think he was asking if I had one though it can be interpreted that way.
@Meowairn11 ай бұрын
Cessna 150’s are valued today. More so than the past. Ppl are finally realizing their value. They are great simple very capable birds.
@FlyingNDriving3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, however seems very much Overkill. I would have just dropped the 275s where the ATT, DG, and CDI were. Moved the old CDI to where the audio panel was and only prob did a new Garmin audio panel with gtn650. I also wonder if you could have fit the dual USB port where the vacuum gauge was for the new install? To each there own and I'm glad you like it
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
It is overkill. But it was fun to do. We would be happy to do your panel just the way you would like.
@ivannova85043 жыл бұрын
I like the panel however, you should've left some analog indicators. (Redundancy).
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause old analog gauges are so reliable for that false sense of security. There is built in redundancy with battery backups and reversionary mode between the GI 275’s. No need for the steam…
@fastglasspilot2 жыл бұрын
How can I reach you (or your establishment)? Thanks.
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
www.sureflight.com/about-us/contact.aspx
@100clagman4 жыл бұрын
I want in a 150 also
@noneNone-mw1px2 жыл бұрын
Is this 152 or 150? Panel says 152
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
It’s a 150M
@mrodneygaliffe62163 жыл бұрын
Garmin could very well use this excellent presentation by Rmag as a link on their web pages. My plan is to just something similar to my four Cessna 152's in the United Kingdom. I am assuming approval now has been received under European rules or British rules when we become a sovereign nation once again on the 1st of January 2021!
@mytubehkjt3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool but when the panel is worth 3 times the value of the aircraft it seems a bit redundant.. Nice though.
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
Two times :)
@swarajsandhu3 жыл бұрын
Is this stuff all certified? I couldn't watch the whole video,my break's over
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@gliderfs6213 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you put a G500 ? These seems to be a bit too tiny, so harder to read.
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
Won’t fit in a C150 panel.
@gliderfs6213 жыл бұрын
@@RMAG Would it, between the 2 yokes ? ^^
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
@@gliderfs621 no
@gliderfs6213 жыл бұрын
Not even a G3X or small size G500 ? I saw some guys putting it in a Super Cub, and it fit very well.
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
@@gliderfs621 G3X and G500 TXi are both 10.6" screens. It won't fit. A G500 TXi 7" screen would fit, but then you would still need another GI 275 for backup and the GI 275 we have for engine instruments. A C150 does not have much space.
@realmonkofficial2 жыл бұрын
why this setup in a C152
@realmonkofficial2 жыл бұрын
its at least a 15K setup, so why put all this in a cessna 152, I'd rather put it in a four seat aircraft with better range and speeds.
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
Because I can
@wayneblackler28182 жыл бұрын
I think it’s superb. Exactly what I want to do in my Long EZ
@MrMarkguth6 ай бұрын
Doubled the value of the 150
@HoundDogMech2 жыл бұрын
I want to see what you do when your Solid and yo loose an alternator with your GLASS. My very first for real IFR flight after just getting My Instrument ticket I had to go Needle Ball and Airspeed for real when Making a turn in the clouds and the Vacuum Horizon takes a Crap. No Problem I was most proficient in Needled, Ball, & AirSpeed as I had just taken my Instrument Checkride. How Proficient are you at flying/Navigating with 2 half size steam gages in the lower part of the panel when all electric power is lost. It happens in older planes that have upgraded Glass Panels installed with that increased electrical draw on a 50 year old system.
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
If you lose an alternator you get a low voltage warning. You cycle the alternator, if it does not come back you immediately declare an emergency, fly to VFR conditions if practicable, or shoot an approach to the closest airport. If your alternator fails, you still have your primary battery, if that gets too low these instruments all have their own backup batteries that will give you an hour to get on the ground. Fortunately with these electric gauges you can’t have a vacuum horizon take a crap as the vacuum system is eliminated. No idea about half size steam gauges, we don’t have any. We have all new wiring, new battery, alternator, etc, no 50 year old electric system.
@fliboyHacksaw2 жыл бұрын
You really must hate Flying a 150. So why do you do it?
@RMAG2 жыл бұрын
Why would I hate it? I never hate flying a plane. This one is nostalgic as I learned in one.
@olafschermann1592 Жыл бұрын
Cessna $20k. Glass cockpit $40k 🙀
@RMAG Жыл бұрын
Both numbers are too low :)
@akoglocko14 жыл бұрын
Avionics probably worth more than the plane...lol
@RMAG4 жыл бұрын
2 times more
@akoglocko14 жыл бұрын
It’s still great looking setup👍
@johncarr1234 жыл бұрын
375 with a iPad panel doc would be 40% less cost
@RMAG4 жыл бұрын
It’s a used GTN 750, but I think when we go to sell the plane we will probably pull the 750 and put something cheaper in.
@GlasairS2-RG3 жыл бұрын
Nice panel but cannot understand putting that kind of money in a Cessna 150.
@gliderfs6213 жыл бұрын
Why not ? Cessna 150 is a very affordable and low cost to use and maintenance, and this kind of avionic can allow to train/fly in IFR in a budget plane.
@rongordon1361 Жыл бұрын
What type of autopilot are you using. What is that big avionics on your right, and what can you use it for…what is wasp
@rongordon1361 Жыл бұрын
What is fir…( I know nothing,forgive me for my stupider)
@rongordon1361 Жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for a starter plane? What would you recommend for avionics?
@rongordon1361 Жыл бұрын
What type of navigation are you using
@stevekiss62773 жыл бұрын
Ugh Why do I feel Garmin is going in the wrong direction with the newest products... I have flown behind a lot of Garmin in the last 15 years... currently GTN, 396, 33X, GDL, Etc..... the 275 EIS appears nearly unreadable... add to that that EGTs are configured on the second screen and I just shake my head. Minimalist is great.. but from a human factor perspective, not having the peripheral vision to something as costly (and deadly) as EGT just stinks. Garmin developers need to fly more old aluminum and less carbon. And they need to do it in moderate turbulence. I want to get rid of my vac pump but the cost (in all senses of the word) is not overcome with this product. The EI and JPI products are more relevant to the average pilot. I an dumb it down... on a steep climb on a hot day in heavy weather and lots of radio work I glance at my EGT to keep me safe. If I need to scroll to the second screen, process the number coming at me... it simply won't happen with the regularity needed to prevent cooking a cylinder. Oh and in the bumps as an aging pilot... the letters are just tooooo small.
@RMAG3 жыл бұрын
It has the max CHT on the main EIS page which is what you want to watch for temp. EGT is mostly used for leaning. This is no different than the G500 TXi. Shows max CHT for temp monitoring and you can access further engine data one button away.
@MrMarkguth6 ай бұрын
No way I’d feel comfortable ifr and just two small instruments, I’d be squinting to follow it
@TimToussaint Жыл бұрын
13:06 It sure sounds like a conspiracy. And you undeniably don’t like it. But you still become part of it.
@azcharlie20092 жыл бұрын
Where do you people get the money for all this?! I worked my ass off my whole life to get where I am, and I cannot afford these $3 thousand and up to $15 thousand gizmos.... Maybe in my next life...