Gas-Powered vs. Battery-Powered String Trimmer (Weed Eaters)

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WorkshopAddict

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10 ай бұрын

Gas-Powered
Pros:
✓ Delivers commercial-level, all-day performance
✓ Sufficient power for large properties or many properties
✓ Handles tall grass and overgrowth with ease
✓ Preferred choice of pros
✓ Can be repaired
✓ Consistent power throughout use
✓ Easy to carry gasoline with you
Cons:
✗ Gas engine "MIGHT" require maintenance
✗ Noisy to operate
✗ The engine can become gummed up without proper fuel or stabilizer
✗ Pull starters can be difficult for some homeowners
✗ Gas and oil can be messy to work with
Battery-Powered
Pros:
✓ Does a sufficient job for a small property or a single property
✓ No engine to maintain
✓ Batteries swap out easily if you run out of power
✓ Very low noise
✓ No gas or oil to replace
✓ Easier to start - no pull cord
✓ No fumes
✓ Can use batteries from other machines from the same brand
Cons:
✗ Battery power dilemma - Need a recharging station if you want to weed eat all day (or have tons of batteries)
✗ Battery run time
✗ Battery recharge time
✗ Hard to find someone to repair
✗ Batteries are VERY Expensive to replace
✗ Rechargeable batteries and chargers may not come with the unit

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@vernsteinbrecker3759
@vernsteinbrecker3759 10 ай бұрын
Wish I would have seen this before I replaced my Stihl trimmer with the Green Works 80 volt and ny gas lawn mower with the 80 volt lawn mower. Neither one do the same job as the gas
@robertgarrido6196
@robertgarrido6196 10 ай бұрын
Which version of the greenworks trimmer did you get? The mower wasn't too impressive, but having multiple batteries was what sold me.
@DropDeadFrederick
@DropDeadFrederick 10 ай бұрын
It really all depends on the size of your lawn. I started out with a gas trimmer (Cub Cadet 4-stroke) and mower (Cub Cadet 21" zero turn capable). My lawn is about average sized and i quickly figured out that my trimmer was way more than what i needed for the job. I literally gave it away and bought a DeWalt 20v and I've been nothing but happy with it since. It gets the job done and i never run out of battery power. The Cub Cadet was great for cutting tall grass but since I don't have any, it wasn't right for me. I just got rid of my CC mower three weeks ago in favor of a Ryobi 40v AWD mower. The only reason i ditched the gas mower is because i got fed up with having to replace the carb pretty much every year no matter how well i maintained the thing. The Ryobi came with two 6ah batteries and the two are plenty enough to cut my entire lawn. For home use on average sized lawns, battery power is the way to go. It's just easier to stick a battery in the thing and go, plus when winter comes you don't have to worry about winterizing the thing. If you have a huge yard and/or tall grass, or your doing a lot of yards, then gas is far better though. The only yard tool I have that's gas is my leaf blower, and you can have it after you pry it out of my cold dead hands. 😆. I learned the hard way that gas is far superior for that because typically you're blowing leaves in the latter part of the year when it's getting cold out. Batteries just don't last very long in the cold where gas doesn't care. Run out of gas and you can just fill the tank. Run out of battery power and if you don't have extra batteries you're stuck waiting for the one you do have to recharge. 😕
@januarymorris9087
@januarymorris9087 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate your video! I own the Milwaukee battery operated trimmer that does not have the quick change option and I use a 9.0 battery on it, I also upgraded the trimmer line to the 095 size and then I'm decently happy with it. It doesn't get much better than slapping a battery in it and pressing a button in your off and running. I also own a stihl rma 510 mower and the fact that I can press a button and be up and going is a win. With all that said, I've always avoided the gas powered stuff because of the maintenance and the fear that I would have to deal with a carburetor issue in the first couple years, I don't use my stuff very often, so I always feared carburetor issues, I was aware of the ethanol free gas thing, however, I've never used any of that stuff because I just didn't own gas powered equipment long enough to experience it. So I'm a big fan of battery stuff but it definitely has its limitations, there will be a day when the batteries die and at that point I might just try out what you said. I would gladly trade My battery mower for a big motor Toro mower. I don't know if I'm ready to give up my Milwaukee trimmer yet, it would have to be a very lightweight trimmer like the one you showed in this video and it would have to be less than $100 difference in price. I have a 1/3 acre yard with a fence on half of it so I trim both sides of the fence and I can do it twice with my Milwaukee trimmer on one battery charge, I will say there are times. I've seen some heavy weeds that were difficult so I totally understand the higher RPM thing you mentioned in the video. Keep up the good work! Thanks for the info
@abelesparza6059
@abelesparza6059 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Gas and battery powered each have their pros and cons that will vary based on the environment they operate in. Neither gas or battery OPE is perfect.
@jamesbubnick
@jamesbubnick 10 ай бұрын
One of the best things about your channel is you're open and understand people have different needs for equipment. I've been to Western Michigan multiple times and the environment you have is very different then a city/suburbs You are right on the money about battery packs. I bought everything from the original echo 58v line. I'm sure you're well aware of the battery issues that line experienced and then Echo bringing out a revised 56v line. Luckily Echo replaced all my equipment for free since I complained to them about it....However if I was going to redo my equipment line up and have to pay for it I probably wouldn't buy the Echo line. I'd buy a line that also has tool batteries as the packs go on sale and I have more options then only the OPE line. My uncle asked me about what chainsaw I would buy if I was going to do it again and I said the DeWalt hands down w/ the 60v flex volt pack. He ended up buying it and has no regrets plus plenty of tools in the series. I'm a huge Echo fan so this is hard for me to say. I exclusively bought echo for years and recommended their products. I'm also a bit annoyed as a bought the Echo Inverter Generator EGi-2300 and after I did more research I'm convinced it's the same as the Ryobi just a slightly different case for 40% higher price. My oldest piece of 2 cycle equipment is a Stihl 009L chainsaw. It' approximately 30 years old and I know it will outlast and battery powered piece of equipment. However because of my use case I sold my Echo CS series 16" saw and my Stihl 029 Super Farm Boss. I don't live in a place where I'm going to need to run a saw for hours on end and have large trees. Personally I think the 58/56v echo string trimmer is 90% of what an SRM-2400 is and for the suburbs I can't think of a better tool. As for REC fuel I've noticed it really depends where you live. When I lived in the countryside of IL it was easy to find Ethanol Free fuel, when I visit my parents in the Subuarbs of Cleveland the closest gas station is at least 35 minutes away. Hav you tried Aspen Ethanol Free fuel? Apparently it's rated as the best canned fuel for OPE.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
I have not tried Aspen as I have so much Rec Fuel around me that I mix my own.
@mikevollmer3579
@mikevollmer3579 10 ай бұрын
Another great video thanks 👍
@markbratt6058
@markbratt6058 10 ай бұрын
I currently own a Stihl string trimmer, blower and edger. I agree with you about the power of gas can't be beat. Until watching your video, I was going to switch over to EGO products because I don't enjoy the smell of gas/oil when I'm done with the lawn. I really like the idea of battery operated equipment, but I'm young enough that I can pull the cord to start my equipment. Your video has given me more to think about. I've had my Stihl tools for over 10 years with no issues. I wasn't going to replace my Stihl tools until they died and the cost of repair was too much. I like your videos, keep up the good work. I purchased a Exmark zero turn in 2020 and I thought I regretted not looking at the EGO zero turn mower. When I sat in the EGO zero turn, there was no comparsion to my Exmark. The EGO really felt cheap and plastic compared the Exmark. For now, I'm going to stick to the gas powered tools.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
Thank you and you are making the right choice.
@wftseriously6694
@wftseriously6694 10 ай бұрын
I agree the about the speed of the gas string trimmers. I have owned a few gas 2 AND 4 stroke of the years. Personally I prefer the battery string trimmers because of the lower noise, vibration, fumes, yearly maintenance. Slower speed is an acceptable tradeoff
@padude131
@padude131 2 ай бұрын
I was using non- ethanol gas for a few years in all my gas powered equipment until I taked to my local Stihl dealer. He recommended just using BP middle grade gas and Stihl 2 stroke oil. He said that that's all he uses so that's what I've been doing too. And im still on the fence between gas and battery tools. I'm liking my battery tools more and more every day.
@iamswright1853
@iamswright1853 10 ай бұрын
I’m not a senior but I like the convenience and low maintenance of battery powered. Also no continuous noise or fumes. There’s only noise when you pull the trigger.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
But there is maintenance. You must maintain a working battery and IF that trimmer ever stops working, you have to repair it because no shops will know how.
@MacNeilR
@MacNeilR 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddict No, I disagree about your maintenance comment. Also I've had to get my gas engines repaired but after 3 years I've had no repairs on the battery equipment.
@jaywelker5566
@jaywelker5566 10 ай бұрын
​@@WorkshopAddict idk, if you're effectively "maintaining" a battery by just simply swapping a couple between the chargers I still consider that very minor compared to what would still be the simple act of transporting, storing and the act of filling out of a jerry can. Swapping a battery is still honestly a simpler task than filling a gas tank, even if you do battery swaps more often. And I say that as somebody who has access to a 250 gallon barrel of premium on one of our properties at all times. Which 99% of people won't have. The less gas I have to can up the better. Otherwise battery maintenance comes down to just keeping it in a moderate temperature environment and storing them under 50% charge IF you're going to shelve them for months between uses. Yes, serviceability is another story. And there's plenty of authorized service centers that CAN work on power tools. I live near a town of
@mektrix8887
@mektrix8887 Ай бұрын
I just went gas on all my cordless drills ;)
@joshuaking34
@joshuaking34 10 ай бұрын
My current setup is a DeWalt DCST972 with a 3ah FlexVolt and .095 Ugly Twist line. Perfect setup for a 1/4 acre property.
@michaelsilberg9059
@michaelsilberg9059 10 ай бұрын
I love this content. Hitting the pros and cons of alternatives from a short and long-term perspective. Respecting the audience as mature adults, not treating the audience like ADHD kids, unable or unwilling to learn or deal with minimal maintenance. This channel is a clinic in how to provide value for time spent watching. Also, it was fun and interesting to observe, even if slightly distracting seeing how far AI generated brand placements have come with the Jeep logo insert on the T-shirt!
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
? AI generated logo insert? That is MY Jeep T-Shirt I purchased in Clearwater Florida on vacation in 2022. :) I am a LONG TIME Jeep owner, since 1997, and I currently own 2 Jeeps and just got this Bronco to try it out. What made you think it was AI? Or better yet that I had the ability to do that?
@michaelsilberg9059
@michaelsilberg9059 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddict Haha, then probably it's artifacts from your video editing software, but the logo stays perfectly white even when it's moving with the shirt and would show some small amount of random shadowing or differential reflecting from reflection angle. Also, the Jeep logo tracks very well with the shirt, but if you focus on it over time you can still see slight tracking deviations. Also, it could be my oversensitivity to CGI graphics placements that started with the NFL digitally painting in the yellow "first down" line. Haha, so maybe I'm imagining it or it's more artifacts from your video editing software. A quick Google search turned up the Rembrand company that does this. Also, the Jeep brand coincidentally seems like it would be a perfect brand engagement crossover for your audience. Your channel and what you provide is so good and I have huge respect for your way of thinking and how you present. I'll even take down the comment if it pisses you off. Cheers and looking forward to your next video.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
I am not mad and leave the comment. I was just surprised to read it. I need to learn more about AI and have no clue how that could be done. I can see where you could read my comment thinking it is aggressive. It was not. I was laughing while typing it.
@michaelsilberg9059
@michaelsilberg9059 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddict It's insane how much product inserting goes on in video content. The first company that came up in my Google search was "Rembrand". The cover page has a bunch of example videos demoing what they do with AI. It's just one company doing it, but that company and others are of course out there pitching their clients and content creators based on KZfaq engagement analytics. Just like carburators vs EFI and liquid gas vs batteries, live action real videos and movies have seen ever increasing CGI (and now AI) created content. It's kind of disturbing, but I'd rather be aware than a comfortable, blissfully unaware consoomer being surreptitiously influenced. Your perspective is the antidote. Thank you.
@Lightning-yr5wu
@Lightning-yr5wu 10 ай бұрын
Jeep t shirt with a bronco in the back ground..love it!🤣🤣🤣
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
I own 2 Jeeps and a Bronco. I never think about the shirt I have on. This would have been impossible for me to plan.
@keith7630
@keith7630 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddictbut I thought the Jeep logo on your shirt was AI generated? 😂
@ES44AC-2
@ES44AC-2 10 ай бұрын
Between my Zero Turn mower and weed killer I barely use a string trimmer ,so I have a 20v Dewalt. I have a bunch of batteries for all my other Dewalt 20v tools.
@rrrrepairs
@rrrrepairs 10 ай бұрын
I have a Husky gas trimmer and the DeWalt flex volt trimmer and I definitely use the DeWalt more often. Here in Jersey there are no non ethanol gas pumps so you are forced to buy the premixed cans or stock up on carburetors if you’re using pump gas. I’m with you on the gas vs electric debate being that I work as a diesel field mechanic so when the battery trimmer goes down, the gas powered is ready to jump ahead in line!
@ProbeGT2
@ProbeGT2 10 ай бұрын
I had a Stihl kombi 110. Changed it for the flexvolt trimmer. I don't understand why he says there's such a power difference. I've even managed to put a blade on my flexvolt and the thing's a freaking beast. Of course, you won't go full throttle for 1 hour, but power and specially torque, is there with a blade. As for battery tools being iphones, if you go with major brand, this is not true. Most major brands still use the same battery connections that they used 10-15 years ago. Yes, people don't want a 5 year old drill anymore because brushless motors changed the game, but once you've got a brushless drill, the new one might be a bit better but the performance difference will never be like brushed vs brushless.
@d.a.9937
@d.a.9937 10 ай бұрын
I've had the Milwaukee Quik-Lok for a few years now. The string trimmer has excellent power and gets good runtime. My only issue is how frequently I have to untangle and re-string it.
@justinsgarage1125
@justinsgarage1125 10 ай бұрын
If the grass you are trimming is getting wrapped around the string, you don’t need a battery ope. If you’re tackling a lawn or homestead that hasn’t been mowed in 2 months on a regular basis, battery isn’t for you. For MOST with smaller yards in suburban America, battery is fine. It’s a place more and more where people are hiring folks to charge their lightbulbs. They don’t want to deal with storing gas, worrying about fumes, deal with leaks, they may not have storage space for gas equipment or worry about diagnosing equipment problems. An additional point concerning RPM - while gas might have higher peak RPM, battery delivers constant power delivery over a broader range of RPMs offering more usable power across the operating range. Even when I worked for a commercial landscape company, I never found a reason to run a string trimmer at full throttle, unless I was dealing with overgrown brush, because general maintenance and grass doesn’t require full throttle. Sure, there is a higher up front cost and battery maintenance to deal with, but I think it’s a price more and more people are willing to pay to not deal with gas especially as states, municipalities and HOAs implement restrictions on Gas OPE. Thanks for coming to my TED talk 😎
@worldsails2000
@worldsails2000 10 ай бұрын
I have that same Milwaukee trimmer. In all honesty I have never used the trimmer part, I mainly use the lawn edger attachment. I also have the hedge trimmer, pole saw and broom attachments. The hedge trimmer is the second most used attachment. I have no regrets about buying this. If you do buy a gas powered unit please watch the Chickanic videos about using premix gas, especially used with Stihl equipment. She says that the premix will gradually destroy your engine because it runs too hot.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
Who can afford to pay almost 32 bucks a gallon for pre-mix?
@worldsails2000
@worldsails2000 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddictI used to use it in my small Mantis rototiller, but that's just because it only gets about 45 minutes of run time every year. I thought I was doing it a favor by not mixing my own. After I watched the Chickanic videos I checked the spark plug in my tiller and sure enough it looked like it was running too hot.
@jronmanbuilds
@jronmanbuilds 10 ай бұрын
I am currently on Ego for my lawn business. My mowers are still gasoline. What you said is spot on. I would probably still recommend battery to a home owner of any age myself. Most properties in a city that are regularly maintained aren’t going to push a trimmer too hard and therefore the extra performance is not needed. Another area gasoline excels in is extreme temps. They can usually run in extreme hot or cold without issue where the battery tends to lose battery health if they run in these extremes. I don’t think lithium ion or pouch cell is the future. Solid state sounds promising but we will see I guess.
@michaelbychkov8030
@michaelbychkov8030 10 ай бұрын
isn't pouch cell a type of solid state battery?
@svenkill
@svenkill 10 ай бұрын
No, pouch cell is just a different format of lithium-ion. pouch cells are what you find in phones, tablets, and laptops. just makes for more compact batteries that can push more watts.@@michaelbychkov8030
@CorsoandMastiffadventures
@CorsoandMastiffadventures 10 ай бұрын
I had a smaller stihl string trimmer (I got 2nd handed). It ran like a top on my larger property. I moved and picked up a makita 18V string trimmer and blower for 200bucks. It works great but it works 70 to 80% as good as the old gas machine except for big weeds. Just doesn't have enough ass.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
But for $200, can you complain? That is how it should be. Less performance, less money. If OPE was priced that way, there would not be a reason to make this video.
@CorsoandMastiffadventures
@CorsoandMastiffadventures 10 ай бұрын
It's exactly what I need and maybe over kill for my current house haha I've been very happy with my OPE set up. Like you mentioned, the easy part of only managing 1 battery platform for everything is a blessing.
@lthegr81
@lthegr81 10 ай бұрын
I'm lost, I brought all my lawn items from home depot and never had an issue. But! They never broke on me. My Ryobi never broke yet, going on 4 years now. I just brought the ego auto feed trimmer. Also, gas is going away! By 2030, gas mowers and trimmers will be no more. Got to consider this when buying. Love the video
@hermitrob5481
@hermitrob5481 2 ай бұрын
Some of live in the real world. Gas isn't going anywhere.
@andrenesterenko53
@andrenesterenko53 10 ай бұрын
I totally agree on the "tool" batteries. I had a Husqvarna battery mower. Great mower; terrible batteries. I switched to a Worx. Wish it had more power, but it's worked flawlessly for 5 years now. I used to have to bring my gas mower in for service to get it up and running every spring costing me at least $100. I've got a Ryobi 40v attachment capable trimmer. I've had no problems with it for 3 years. I do only have a 3/4 acre lot. Aside from the Husqvarna fiasco, my electric OPE has cost me much less money and maintenance than gas equipment would have. I would say that your cost estimations are off, but I know that you can cherry-pick certain brands to get those numbers. Expensive batteries like Ego and Greenworks seem better avoided. Ryobi might appear expensive too, but I can normally catch a sale or something.
@ProbeGT2
@ProbeGT2 10 ай бұрын
Are you sure the 4stroke mix revs 10 000 rpm? I had one and i'm really skeptical about that. The 2 strokes maybe but the 4 stroke?
@philn9813
@philn9813 10 ай бұрын
My dad keeps saying "get higher voltage", well, in looking at the amperage on a lot of those and doing some basic math, the specs are more similar than most realize. (Stihl KOMBI and M18 string trimmer owner too....both have their place...we have a small yard and a piece of property, which, as you imagine is where the kombi gets it's workout..)
@stephenparchewski1998
@stephenparchewski1998 Ай бұрын
I’ve used a battery powered Milwaukee trimmer. They are nice for small stuff, but I use a Stihl KM130r with .105 line for when I want to go full Rambo on grass that’s 2 feet tall. It’s kinda like comparing a garden spade to a D8 Cat.
@mikehunt2996
@mikehunt2996 3 ай бұрын
Dude, I have the Stihl trimmer and I have eletric Ego and love them both! Ego's are pricey but they last a long time!!!! My gas trimmer is more powerful tho.
@claytondenton7998
@claytondenton7998 10 ай бұрын
I have a kobalt 24v that I love I haven't had any problem with it cutting anything
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 Ай бұрын
I recently bought the Milwaukee M18 brushcutter, it will be OK for light work, but petrol power is still far superior!! With the cost of extra high output batteries, it ain't worth it!
@kevinbushell2746
@kevinbushell2746 10 ай бұрын
Nice motor in the background sadly not available in the UK
@Hotel_Motel_Rooms
@Hotel_Motel_Rooms 4 ай бұрын
Would like to see you compare the products in real world tests. You ❤️ Gas
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 4 ай бұрын
Spring is just here. We have plans to!
@joshuavanhoozer1518
@joshuavanhoozer1518 3 ай бұрын
I’m sticking with gas equipment because gas has been around for years and is proven and until we no longer have a choice we should stick with what works
@Dan-zs4rk
@Dan-zs4rk 10 ай бұрын
I have the Milwaukee string trimmer with a few attachments. Now I have the edger unfortunately It rips my grass. I’m wondering if that’s do to the lack of RPMs or the blades themselves. I’ve only noticed the last month or so. changing the blade didn’t help. ive used a gas but it was craftsman..... lol. Worst piece of crap of all time. I need to ask my neighbor if he’ll let me try his edger and see if there is a difference. He has either stihl or echo
@mustang2433
@mustang2433 10 ай бұрын
I have a ego string trimmer and it’s great for doing small work but when I had to do some heavy work on my property and the battery just doesn’t last long so I was looking at a bigger battery and when I saw the price of a 5ah battery at 300 dollars I decided to just get a stihl fs56 for 220 dollars and it ran circles around the ego and had a longer run time with one tank of gas with heavy work the ego is great but now I never touch it I always grab the gas one
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
While my experience is VERY similar, it took me a few years to realize that gas was king.
@mustang2433
@mustang2433 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddict same here I had everything battery from string trimmer leaf blower chainsaw lawnmower I had all batteries and I definitely think they have there place it’s all good equipment but one you feel the power of gas is hard to go back
@olgajoachimosmundsen4647
@olgajoachimosmundsen4647 10 ай бұрын
Hey, how long do you reckon a brushless professional tool will last in general, if used by professional?
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
That is going to depend on the tool. Is it a drill or a string trimmer. I see some pros go through tools in 3 months and others get 5 years. I need more info to answer this.
@johnbailey9682
@johnbailey9682 10 ай бұрын
I prefer the gas models. I was using shindaiwa ran a lawn service for just over 60 years . I gave the milwaukee straight shaft a try bought 3 of them and I also bought a split shaft . After buying 13 batteries the 12 .0 battery . That was just not enough batteries and I had the hand held blower also . 5 of the batteries did not even last a year and milwaukee would not back there warranty . Well those batteries are $250 dollars plus tax .13 times $250 that’s a HUGE amount of money gas never cost me that much . Plus the batteries did not make it through even one year . I did like the milwaukee string trimmer but they have a very long way to go . I had the t230 shindaiwa split shaft trimmer they were great .
@James.99
@James.99 10 ай бұрын
I have the Echo srm-266 and Echo pas-2620. There aren't any battery powered models on Earth that come close as far as run time and cutting power
@stepansavelyonok5532
@stepansavelyonok5532 10 ай бұрын
I use makita's string trimmers one 40v is for cutting tall grass, bought it when i had little jungles on my property, and second one 18v is my mother's to trim grass around flowers(it is the only reason I have some 18v batteries yet). But for larger garden equipment I use 82v greenworks. It has waaaay more power and runtime with batteries in price of makita's bare tools. And the green one have decent, I mean DECENT snowblowers. They are already here. They are expencive, but blow snow no less than average gas powered one. Most tool-batteries-operated snowblowers just can't have this much power.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
GW is the most complained about battery on my channel from the people in comments. Many will leave an 80-volt on the charger for a month and come back to a completely non working battery. While the price is better, GW is like Ryobi where they suck you into the brand with the tools then want to sell you crazy expensive batteries.
@stepansavelyonok5532
@stepansavelyonok5532 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddict unfortunately in our country this is the only brand we have with wide range commercial grade battery tools beside Karcher. No battery Stihl, Husqvarna or EGO. For now I quite satisfied with performance especially with snowblowers especially working in temperatures up to -30°C or -22°F.
@mics3747
@mics3747 10 ай бұрын
I understand not minding the smell of exhaust. It can automatically bring back memories of good, carefree times… But I try not to forget that benzene and other carcinogens are entering my body with every breath. How much do you enjoy that aroma?
@cjdefrain
@cjdefrain 10 ай бұрын
I am an avid Ryobi guy. I have found that the prices are considerably lower and the quality is decent for the home user. Every tool that I have had malfunction (not many) even it was my fault Home Depot exchanged the tool no questions asked! So, to say that warranty is a big issue and finding where to go is disingenuous!
@JST4CYL
@JST4CYL 10 ай бұрын
I definitely acknowledge that I am a Milwaukee guy but I will tell you that I have literally cleaned ditches and culverts with the same Quik-lok Milwaukee you have there on low and never needed more power. I'd venture to guess that anyone needing more power also try to stuff a saw straight into the object they're trying to cut immediately after pulling the trigger. I'm sure you aren't a guy who doesn't understand how to use a weedeater but I think your acknowledgement at the end showed why you said the electric model was inferior to the gas.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
What acknowledgement? I live in a rural area and my ditch banks are covered in weeds. Some weeds are more like 3 foot tall trees. The grass is so thick the the Milwaukee on low will just wind the grass around the head and stop the motor. It is all about what you use it for. I might be in a more extreme situation. I can make a video easily showing you that I could not do what you are saying in my ditch.
@JST4CYL
@JST4CYL 10 ай бұрын
@WorkshopAddict - The acknowledgement that you made to being biased to gas because of liking everything about it, from smell to sound etc. If you let it get out of hand sure, I'm certain a trimmer won't cut down a tree. It's not made to. Does a different tool accomplish the task (gas powered trimmer), sure. It's made to trim and maintain. Not hit once every few months in an environment where weeds thrive. I don't think that electric trimmers blow away gas yet but I'm honest with the situation. In my opinion, you painted them for people who live in HOA's or Condos lol. Just my opinion.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
Gotcha, did you also here that I carry the Milwaukee in my trailer and use it on a commercial job, albeit a small one? The picture I want to paint is that battery is great for some, but you lose 40% of the performance and are limited in runtime with the possibility of it costing more than a gas unit. You will pay for the convenience of battery at some point.
@JST4CYL
@JST4CYL 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddict - I did hear that.
@dustinkrebs8229
@dustinkrebs8229 10 ай бұрын
Some people om marketplace be thinking their tools are worth gold💯 🤣
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
You can ask whatever you want for something but it does not mean it will ever sell.
@timstegall7226
@timstegall7226 5 ай бұрын
Those Stihl 4 mix engines need to have their valves adjusted occasionally. I would avoid those and get the Echo or Husqvarna.
@ZeGermanHam
@ZeGermanHam 10 ай бұрын
For the average residential homeowner, I don't see any point in owning a gas powered string trimmer. You won't be weed eating all day, and probably won't need the extra RPM for maintenance trimming. I also think the stated cost of batteries is quite overblown in this video. For most residential lots, you can get away with a 5Ah or 6Ah battery, and those usually can often be purchased for $150 or less. You can get a 2-pack of M18 High Output 6.0Ah batteries for $249 (so $124.50/ea), and even an M18 High Output 12.0Ah battery is just $249 at full cost, and you can find sales very often. I don't know anyone who would pay $400 for a single Milwaukee or DeWalt battery as was suggested in this video. And even though I live in a major metropolitan area with a population in the millions, there is ONE gas station within 40 minutes of driving that sells ethanol-free gas. So yeah, battery powered string trimmers are a no-brainer for homeowners. If you work in commercial landscaping, that's obviously a different story. This video seemed to be a little fuzzy on who the pros and cons of each type applied to.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
In reading your comment, I question who you think the average homeowner is. I guess the average would be skewed a bit more to people in the city due to population. I live in a city with 40,000 people and I have 6 places to get Rec Fuel around me and 2 within 4 miles. At my cabin, there is a town of less than 2,000 and about 4 of the 6 gas stations have Rec Fuel. I can understand the lower demand for Rec Fuel in an heavily populated area. You are correct on battery costs with Milwaukee, but incorrect on prices of the 40-Volt Ryobi or 56-Volt Ego or 80-volt Greenworks. The issue is the "Average Homeowner will cheap out and get a 40-volt Ryobi and that little machine will do great until just past the 3 year warranty, and then they have to buy another one. That cost over 10 or 15 years is immense compared to simply taking care of a good gas powered unit.
@mkhjensen
@mkhjensen 10 ай бұрын
One big advantage using battery power is that you don't give your self cancer, like you will from the gasoline powered equipment.
@thomasvikoren3981
@thomasvikoren3981 10 ай бұрын
Something you might want to suggest on future videos: Installing a fuel shutoff on small engine devices (if there's space) and then let the fuel burn up when you're finished and leave the carb empty without fuel. I think this really helps the carbs from gumming up and in reality carb failure is the main source of problems for most intermittently used small engines? P.s. did you try doing a jump-start with a 18v tool battery alone yet? It works well. The voltage drops due to the current inflow into the vehicle battery and I do not think there is much risk from overvoltage damage to the vehicle.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
I did talk about fuel shut offs, but they are not present on 2 strokes for obvious reasons.
@xvxjimboxvx
@xvxjimboxvx 10 ай бұрын
Yea going to stick with gas. Bought a echo trimmer blower chainsaw hedge trimmer from home depot 13 years ago. Put trufuel in it it starts they all start on third pull every time.
@kristoferbrown8007
@kristoferbrown8007 10 ай бұрын
My issue with gas powered equipment is that the carburetors always gum up and if you don't know how to take apart a carburetor, you have to take it somewhere to get it cleaned anyway. It's a hassle. Yes, if you know how to maintain gasoline engines properly, sure, they are relatively maintenance free, but carburetors are a pain in the butt. Pull starting is annoying. And they are loud and noisy. If you want to deal with all of that for better performance, that's your choice. I also don't understand why you think the Milwaukee string trimmer is only good for city lots. I have a 3 acre property with foot high grass that I trim all the time. I have absolutely no issues with it. If you're trying to cut down quarter inch thick briars and stuff, sure it'll struggle, but you would just switch to the hedger You make a lot of valid points but I think you're underselling the Milwaukee and over selling the gas unit.
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
I am not trying to compare the Milwaukee to all gas, just using it because it is the main one I use. I personally cannot even use the Milwaukee on my 1 acre lot at home without 2 12 AH batteries. I have a lot of fence and a lot of county ditch line. That is my experience. With that said, most carburetor issues go away when you use rec fuel.
@kristoferbrown8007
@kristoferbrown8007 10 ай бұрын
@@WorkshopAddict That's a fair assessment. We all have slightly different terrains that we need to maintain. I even use mine to maintain a disc golf course. Works well but the batteries do have their limitations. And they do cost a ton when they crap out. I will also agree that ethanol-free gas makes a huge difference on carbureted engines. I've used it on my side by side since day one and never had an issue. Also, you have the benefit of having grown up around small engines. 😂 For a lot of us they are intimidating. Regardless, great content as always. Whether I agree or not, I always appreciate a different perspective.
@ssclassof2000
@ssclassof2000 10 ай бұрын
I don't think he is overselling the gas. I agree with his opinion. If you buy rec fuel and get a fuel shutoff and run the carb dry you won't have any issues. I use the rec fuel in my 25 year old stihl chainsaw. I use this saw maybe once every couple years and it's starts everytime. I don't even drain the fuel.
@mikebroom1866
@mikebroom1866 10 ай бұрын
Unless it's a chainsaw, if it has a pull start, it needs to be electric and I'm never going back. What's not being factored in here is the lifetime cost of maintenance (or fuel) of a string trimmer. I have constant problems with 2 stroke equipment, 0 with electric, and it has PLENTY of power.
@jaycarneygiants
@jaycarneygiants 10 ай бұрын
You really should step out of your comfort zone with Milwaukee and Dewalt. Ego makes the BEST battery string trimmer battery on the market and Ryobi makes the quietest!
@online_now6834
@online_now6834 10 ай бұрын
I bought a ton of EGO stuff a few years ago, its obsolete and the batteries are already no good. All it really did was create E-waste. I should have never went away from my gas powered tools. Also, EGO does not stand behind their stuff.
@SuperMisterManager
@SuperMisterManager 10 ай бұрын
So... Gas is not Past😂 The cost of my Kobalt 80 v battery is $179 for 2AH, but $249 for 4ah. Ya, if you have only one battery string trimmer and only 1 battery for it, i see your point for buying a $200 gas trimmer over a $400 electric trimmer. Most consumers would end up buying whatever is on sale then. I think that's when people make their mistake: when buying only one OPE in a system and not investing in other pieces. I started my collection when they were giving away a 2nd battery around 2015 i think. At one point i had 7 batteries but i sold the ones i didnt need at the time. But I came from a Black and Decker 20v trimmer and would burn through 3-4 batteries after every trimming.😅 To me that's in the past. I have 5 batteries, and each one charges in 30 mins. So if i lose one I'm fine. My bubby and I use at most 2 OPE at any one time when were gardening so we could probably survive on less. You mentioned the noise factor, w electric vs gas, but you didn't mention the one of the top benefits of less noise: you can do gardening later night or early in the morning without disturbing people. Also, in my city, they passed a local ordinance banning gas blowers. And I'm sure gas string trimmers and mowers are next. Also, to this day, my buddy still is crummy with the string trimmer. I can't imagine him trying to use a gas one. Of all the OPEs, the blower is the easiest to learn, but the string trimmer is one of the hardest to learn the technique. So a gas string trimmer would be even harder for most people or children to pick up. Also, we have st augustine. But I disagree with you about buying hand power tool manufacturer's OPEs. The blowers use too much energy, so its better for battery longevity to have large high voltage and amp OPE batteries with battery pack ventilation. Blowers are the only OPEs which I have to swap batteries at 80- 90% completion of our driveway.
@Roman-vh1rr
@Roman-vh1rr 10 ай бұрын
For next 7-10 years idont think there’s going to be battery technology that’s better than gas
@dfax1
@dfax1 10 ай бұрын
So Ryobi sucks??
@WorkshopAddict
@WorkshopAddict 10 ай бұрын
The problem I have with Ryobi is that they price it as a economy brand and so many people go buy it thinking they found a deal. Next thing you know, it does not work, they forgot about the warranty or Home Depot denies it and they buy another. Over the course of 10 years, they have put 2 times the money into these battery trimmers than they would have into a good gas one. TTI gets richer and the average person has little to no idea that they spent double than what they should have.
@James.99
@James.99 10 ай бұрын
I used to have a Ryobi 4 stroke weed eater and it was basically designed to fail after one season. Echo 2 stroke all the way they last forever
@ProbeGT2
@ProbeGT2 10 ай бұрын
Also, there's no way the battery cost 400$ come on. I bought an high output 8.0 last week for 250$ CND. Also, every year the batteries get cheaper and cheaper. 5 years ago a 5ah battery was 200+$ nowadays you can get them in pack of 2 for 170$. In 4-5 years an hd8 or hd12 will be around 200$. Yes, for 200$ you will still buy A LOT of gas but please, at least be fair in your comparison.
@bwhs89
@bwhs89 2 ай бұрын
The average battery may not be $400 but a quick google search on any of the "high end" batteries will show prices around that price or greater. The STIHL AP 500 S battery is $380.
@chublez
@chublez 25 күн бұрын
​@bwhs89 I can cherry pick some real expensive gas too. Make a fair comparison or don't bother. Also learn to maintain batteries. Just a bit of learning like he says.
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