GBS Control: Installation & Overview

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This video highlights GBS Control, the amazing custom software from Rama that converts the mediocre GBS8200 scaler into an AWESOME piece of retro gaming hardware! I’ll cover the basics from assembly & programming, to lag testing and comparisons.
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Dave’s install video: • How to Upgrade the GBS...
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amoore2600's GBS Control Capture Examples: • Gbscontrol
8220 Output Improvement components:
Replace R58 with 100 (or120) Ohm ferrite bead and after the ferrite, add a 1uF capacitor to ground as shown here: github.com/ramapcsx2/gbs-cont...
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00:00 Intro and opening
01:38 Hardware Installation
05:48 Software Setup
08:41 Connect to WiFi
09:38 Inputs
10:56 Outputs
13:03 Lag Testing
14:39 Examples & Comparisons
18:29 Outro
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@ZinhoMegaman 4 жыл бұрын

I got mine since that video about using CRT monitor to play retro consoles and I would like to thank you Bob, for me the GBS with the Control mod is the perfect solution I was looking for!

@konsolkongendk 4 жыл бұрын

Really great video Bob! I’ve been curious about the GBS control but never looked into it as I already own an OSSC and Framemeister. Glad to finally see this running, and I think your comparisons between the OSSC are really good, using games that makes the differences very noticeable :)

@simbin. 4 жыл бұрын

This looks like something fun to tinker with. I already had the parts for other projects, where I never ended up using them.

@kramerdesign9443 4 жыл бұрын

I'm so into this! Definitely going down this route for my setup - thanks Bob!!

@dlang6487 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Bob! The quality and knowledge you bring is top notch!

@ToddsNerdCave 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video Bob! I think the motion deinterlacing is what makes this project so appealing. Good stuff!

@undamned 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks for reminding people to take their time on the install. It's always worth it :)

@jfroco 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, as usual. Thank you, Bob. I’m looking forward to your downscaling video.

@BambooShadow 4 жыл бұрын

Great work as always. Shoutouts to Rama!

@mikeweit 3 жыл бұрын

Bob thanks to you and this video I went down the rabbit hole. I now have 3 trash saved CRTs (2x toshiba af, and a Panasonic Tau) and just completed the gbs control build. I’m currently playing my Wii in 1080p upscalled from 480p and this entire build is awesome. Thanks man! No better way to wait out the pandemic!

@tyisafk 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sold. I love my OSSC, but my use case has changed and I'm really digging the downscaling and motion adaptive deinterlacing.

@quantum82xx 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. That all in one unit looks very promising!

@SkyScourgeGod 4 жыл бұрын

This is an extremely compelling product to use for deinterlacing and downscaling. As far as 240p goes, as you mentioned before the RetroTink and OSSC are still the top dogs as long as money isn't an issue. However, the GBS's deinterlacing has really made an awesome impression on me. I use an OSSC, but I'm not a fan of the bob-deinterlacing due to the fields constantly moving up and down which makes it hard to focus on static screens like menus and such. To fix this I use an Crestron HD Scaler which handles the deinterlacing instead of the OSSC, but I have no idea how much lag it produces. I don't think its bad at all, but the OSSC is needed to convert the analog signal to digital before the Crestron gets it because its does get laggy when dealing with pure analog since its also upscaling. The GBS on the other hand has some hard numbers to show and they're really good compared to more popular deinterlacers like the Framemeister. I may consider this project just for 480i only, but I am looking forward to seeing your next video on how downscaling may be beneficial. Thanks for all the effort and information you give us!

@-dash 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great opportunity to just jump in and learn how to solder. I’m excited.

@Kaixero 3 жыл бұрын

I actually did it. This is the best low cost investment I've ever made. This thing is incredible. It's just that good. Things you will need if you never soldered before, like me: • female ended wires, if you buy the full-size esp8266 board like I did, not the mini one Bob did • one single jumper, though you can get around this by...spreading solder between the two pins on the flip side of the board. Go with the jumper. • 100 Ohm resistors (3 total) • you can pretty much only buy the above parts in bulk because brick and mortar parts stores are basically dead RIP • soldering iron kit (iron, solder wire, flux, DESOLDER PLUNGER PUMP THING [necessary], solder wick, multiple iron heads) Having never done it before I really thought I would kill it, and I nearly did, but it turned out fantastically. The only complaints I have are that the 1080p output frequency is guaranteed to cause a disconnect with the wifi, and the screen tearing is noticable sometimes, but the clock gen mod fixes that easily, just more work and an extra purchase. This thing is a dream.

@revengenerd1 8 ай бұрын

Intersting I bought a pre made GBS-C and notice now and again a horizontal line scrolling down the screen.

@robinmasters150 4 жыл бұрын

that's what I want to see on retrorgb! thx Bob

@seanm1738 4 жыл бұрын

Helpful video, Bob!! Thanks for the walkthrough 👍

@joshmiller887 4 жыл бұрын

A lot of this awesome information is completely over my head. I keep trying to soak it all up and make sense of it all. What a great lesson. Thanks as always Bob!

@franciscoserralvo6349 4 жыл бұрын

This is great for downscaling xbox 480i to 240p, it even do some quality deinterlacing, impressive. I need to get one ASAP! Great video, thanks Bob!

@Vanessaira-Retro 4 жыл бұрын

"Some Nerding required..."

@rorykurek643 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff, Bob. Can't wait for the videos on deinterlacing and downscaling. Those seem like the killer apps for this device. Definitely better than spending $150+ on a DVDO or TVOne box for those same features!

@KyoshoBallard 4 жыл бұрын

10:45 "Nerding" used in this way is new to me, but I approve. :D Anyway, this is awesome. Last time I looked at this project (a couple years ago?) they were using Raspberry Pis to do this stuff to the GBS scaler. Everything's gotten way fancier and cleaner with an Arduino and those awesome menus. Great work, guys!

@RetroGamerBB 3 жыл бұрын

I did mine with dooklink's raspberry pi mod on a pi 2b. I didnt do the component out mod. That requires more nerding.

@Crlarl 4 жыл бұрын

It seems like Rama is like the Fire Nation: It changed everything.

@HeadlockedGaming 3 жыл бұрын

Think I'll finally find my solution to my Mortal Kombat 4 arcade issue here. Soon as I saw you did a video on this I was immediately relieved.

@SirJonSoda 4 жыл бұрын

That motion adaptive deinterlancing looks pretty neat. It's no doubt very good for the PS2, even forcing 480p many games won't work at all in that resolution. Please do that video about deinterlacing

@Sega90s 4 жыл бұрын

Most impressive part of this scaler is the Web/GUI interface. That is the one area the current OSSC and Frameister lack is a menu devoid of navigational nerding.

@tigheklory 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Bob! I use the GBA for capture from my Arcade games!

@ethantaylor8306 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video! I've got one of these for my Genesis going to an arcade LED panel. Clean, crisp, and cheap, can't ask for much more. And let's be honest, being able to sit on your couch, and futz with the settings is enough to justify using it.

@foobar2027 Жыл бұрын

I made three of these, one for me and one each for my two oldest daughters that are also into ps1/ps2 gaming and they work beautifully. Easy to use and great performance at a very reasonable price. I actually bought a board for a fourth one. Lol. I am planning to build a dedicated PS2 arcade cabinet. I.e. an arcade cabinet but one that has a ps2 built in with a HDD and OPL. And instead of clickety buttons and a joystick it will just have a holder for a PS2 controller. Kind of like those cabinets you used to see at Fry's or game stores to try out some demo-games. But this one will look a lot more like an ordinary full size arcade game cabinet, but it will just be for a PS2.

@ShawneeUnion 3 жыл бұрын

I watched this video like 10 times before pulling the trigger. OMG it’s good. Went from Hyperkin, to Portta (not bad), to GBS Control. Lots more control and overall image is much better. Thanks for all the details and examples. I’m enjoying the Wii I have hooked up to this a lot more now.

@rzeka 4 жыл бұрын

I use one of these for plugging a component source into a VGA monitor, with the "Source Pass-through" setting in gbscontrol, and it seems to just be straight up transcoding YPbPr to RGB, which is exactly what I want.

@BertClaes 4 жыл бұрын

nice! I have one running now for some weeks with a neo geo mvs. works great!

@mattsephton 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video! It should be a real injection of new blood to the GBS-C scene.

@ein123456789 4 жыл бұрын

I can't wait for the downscaling video, I've been interested in getting a downscaling solution, was thinking about a vsc into RGB interface, but if the GBS works better, that's even better.

@h0laPlaneta 2 жыл бұрын

@Poplep was this video ever released? Can´t wait to see what downscaling options we have now that the Retrotink 5X does not downscale with newer firmwares...

@tiagozawadzki 2 жыл бұрын

Best retro rgb video, hehe

@ItsJustEmK 4 жыл бұрын

Have you started seeing 240p/480i switching causing dropouts again after installing the clock gen? Because that's been my experience. It was seamless without the clock gen, but I wired it up and started powering it off C47 and now it works great and there's no tearing... but it does drop out for a split second when 480i240p switches happen.

@bubbadmatt8124 3 жыл бұрын

@retrorgb this just popped into my head, what if used to help safeguard a groovymame setup with an rgb modded consumer crt by having the gbs be the go between to prevent any chances of more than 15khz? Or on a crt with component inputs

@RabidGerry 3 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome video, so clear on a lot of things and I will totally be exploring these options. Few quick questions though, 2:31 you mention 100 capacitor to ground yes? The link you included is for a 1000

@freerad4life 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Are there any cheap VGA to HDMI transcoders that will output RGB Full Range? My experience is that they output RGB Limited Range which looks washed out on my computer monitors.

@grandmaster1004 10 ай бұрын

Dude, that Rust in Peace Flying V is epic!

@RetroRGB 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! I customized the neck and added hand-wown pickups :)

@jackiemueller5121 4 жыл бұрын

9:50 where can I get an adapter cable like that? I can't seem to find one anywhere.

@JB2X-Z Жыл бұрын

I ran into the GBS8200 by complete accident when I was trying to connect my SNES through RBG onto my CRT monitor, and now THIS comes up? Awesome.

@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын

If you mean a VGA CRT, then the GBS-Control project is perfect. Check this out for more info: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7KbgZVyv7KmfXU.html

@JB2X-Z Жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB I sure do! I've been fully enjoying this whole project!

@XenoDragun 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the downstate video. Been looking for something to downscale the 360 to arcade cab. UVC is just crazy price right now. How come the esp8266 listed is different then the one installed in video?

@chchris25 3 жыл бұрын

Can you downscale a VGA computer signal to 240P with this device? I know you can achieve this using your graphics card in tandem with a VGA to component transcoder. However my graphics card is too old to achieve this. Instead, I use an Extron VSC 100 in tandem with a Extron RGB 190 to achieve a 240P image.

@CYR1X Жыл бұрын

so am I right in understanding this can do lagless ypbpr to rgbhv converting? as a person trying to play original xbox games could be could if it did that and then also passed through ypbpr with the gbs-8220 model which has two outputs.

@quintonh2063 Жыл бұрын

I am having a issue with the gbs not outputting a video signal. I am using a vga to hdmi converter. Have verified the converter works properly. I can log into the controller via wifi, but cannot select a output resolution. Have triple checked wiring connections, but am at a loss at this point. I am questioning if the gbs is even powering on as the led indicator on the board does not illuminate. Any suggestions?

@stephenprice8825 3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if the gbs-control supports 240p@120hz? I've heard the older version by dooklink had a preset for it but I can't seem to find any information on the newer version having that preset as well. Any information anyone has would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

@Daniel-it1dp 3 жыл бұрын

Cool, I might have to look into this for downscaling one of our digital streaming boxes (i.e. Roku, Google TV, Amazon Fire Stick) for use on our CRT that my son prefers.

@DoubleMonoLR 7 ай бұрын

I think you could just put the sync resistor inside the SCART connector - they're usually easy to open & have plenty of room inside. I used to do a similar modification inside 3rd party Nintendo cables many years ago.

@OuterHeavenBoss 2 жыл бұрын

Where can I find a diagram for mods required for 8220? Some of the solder points are different than in the tutorials.

@TheExodvs 3 жыл бұрын

17:31-17:39 Does that include converting 31+ kHz signals from YPbPr to RGBHV?

@agenda697 3 жыл бұрын

That's a cool Jackson V back there !

@AshtonCoolman 4 жыл бұрын

I happen to have a GBS 8220 lying around. This is just the kind of mod I'm looking for! Thanks for the thorough, high quality video.

@Renulph 3 жыл бұрын

Did you end up doing it?

@leventefazekas2661 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Where can you buy the vga male - component cable? Is there a female vga version als available? So the vga to hdmi converter does not add any additional lag?

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

Here's one cable that worked for me: amzn.to/3fQJrSU Also, no, that converter doesn't add any lag. Please check the "lag testing retro scalers" video for more info.

@OuterHeavenBoss 2 жыл бұрын

@RetroRGB - I have the 8220 dual output, what parts do I need for that?

@TheSideTangentPodcast 3 жыл бұрын

I'm considering picking this up but maybe someone could confirm something for me. I want to set up my GameCube, Dreamcast, and original Xbox to a PC CRT to take advantage of 480p. I was just wondering if this would be a fairly cost-effective way of doing that, or if there were better options since whenever I go looking for Component to VGA transcoders they either rarely pop up or are more money than I'd like to spend on something like this.

@WingmanLive 2 жыл бұрын

I love this stuff its got me thinking, can you add custom resolutions? Other thing is input lag, i know lcd is the worst offender and oled is 13ms or lets say a frame of lag, but its the vga crt monitor has 0.007 ms or basically zero lag. So if you use a crt monitor with a custom resolution could you still get zero lag or would the conversion introduce lag even to a crt monitor?

@soulrazor1 4 жыл бұрын

Just noticed that the adapter for HDMI at 12:23 says on the plugs HDMI IN and VGA Out. Does it work as VGA in and HDMI out combining the audio from the audio 3.5 jack to HDMI without an additional power supply to that adaptor?

@soulrazor1 4 жыл бұрын

At 5:22 the adaptor had that 5v input, do they both work with audio?

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

I just grabbed the wrong adapter for the b-roll shot. Check the description for the one I recommend.

@soulrazor1 4 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB thank you for the clarification

@PowerPC601 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. I do have a question. How did you get RGB out of the PS1? Did you use SCART to VGA?

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I used the SCART Cleaner, but the GBS-C AIO works equally as good...it's just not available yet: www.gbscaio.com/ www.retrorgb.com/scartcleaner.html

@phrtza Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to somehow force GBS Control to output 1080p at all times? In my experience, it selects seemingly arbitrary resolution when for example no input is coming in.

@Manny2211 3 жыл бұрын

Very good video info thanks for sharing

@benjbit 3 жыл бұрын

Any way to use this to downscale in an s-video monitor?

@DJumperGo Жыл бұрын

Hello! How to connect VHS (from SCART) to gbs82xx ? I use 1881n, but have black screen.

@bubbadmatt8124 4 жыл бұрын

@retrorgb would the downscaling option work with an rgb modded consumer CRT TV? For if ya want to keep your ps3, ps2, og xbox, 360, and heck even wii and Wii u hooked up via analog.

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but you'd need to make sure you set those consoles to 480p. 720p and 1080p can't be downscaled to 240p....at least not yet.

@Djw8991 4 жыл бұрын

really looking forward to that deinterlacing video

@argniests5357 3 жыл бұрын

You mentioned that something needs to be removed from the 8220 (the one with dual vga outputs)...something that causes interference? What has to be removed?

@R0b3 3 жыл бұрын

Hi dear. Is this a mod to extend upscaling pcb? Can I use it to connect my Sega model 2 Daytona to LCD monitor? I need to change it.

@ConsoleKits 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Do you think this could work on an MVS + Jamma? I have one of these laying around. Pretty impressive project!

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, but you'd need to make sure the video levels matched standard RGBs. So MVS -> cheap supergun -> GBSControl should be perfect.

@spacemining 4 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB Get a MiniGun on ebay or tindie. MVS -> MiniGun -> GBSControl

@Kashes_ Жыл бұрын

hey bob what wire did you use? 26 awg and for the clock battery did you use kyner wire or 28 awg??

@chrisb1236 2 жыл бұрын

I have a consolized MV1C that has a 15khz RGB signal coming out a DB15 - could I run that to the GBS input and then have the GBS output component video (essentially using it as a transcoder)?

@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. You can choose to pass through the signal, transcode, or scale it. Just check the github and notes about the proper mods required for high quality component output.

@Ark_Retro Жыл бұрын

Can I put hdmi-component converter in and take out scart RGB 480i?

@huangaga6923 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Anyone knows if gbsc support ps2 rgb sync on green for 480p? -->after testing my gbsc, it supports the sync on green via a switch. good.

@mh732 3 жыл бұрын

Is there an audio input on the GBS-C AIO?

@carminone 3 жыл бұрын

Magnificent video!!!!!

@SwareJonge 3 жыл бұрын

Does the pass-trough mode(240p or 480i source) also work with the VGA to HDMI adapter? I'm curious about this since this would be really handy for my streaming setup, since there are not a lot of Scart splitters of high quality and a reasonable price I had the idea to use a GBS8220(with the mod) and the use VGA as output method, combine the sync and use that on my CRT and then send the other via the VGA to HDMI adapter to a capture card, i'd really appreciate it if someone could point this out to me!

@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but your HDMI target device would have to be compatible with 240p and 480i for it to work.

@SwareJonge 3 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB Ok thanks! i believe my capture card supports that!

@Babsdoproductions Жыл бұрын

Mine didn’t have any luck with my Sega Blast City with 31Khz Sanwa arcade monitor, the image kept scrolling and fizzling out. Removing the GBS and plugging directly in via HDMI to VGA did the trick when set to 640x480 in Windows so now I can get my Mame setup going albeit without the GBS in the mix. Not sure what the problem was, perhaps it was the fact that mine had a clock mod installed for compatibility with certain other combinations? I thought that would be better to get a fully modded up GBS but perhaps not? I’m not interested in buying a non-clock modded GBS unit just to test since my arcade setup works and I found out the monitor didn’t do 15Khz anyway so now I may try to use my GBS unit with retro consoles and see how it does with that at least.

@RafaelOliviera952 3 жыл бұрын

I do not understand one thing, gbscontrol is instaled on the wi-fi arduíno device and bypass the original hardware ?

@torokun 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this vid. If you can help... I am also interested in finding out better downscaling method. Mainly going from recent “Mini” consoles to older 4:3 composite connection only TVs. New Mini consoles have 16:9 ratio only and have no means to do full screen mode using 4:3 TVs. I would appreciate your help on this one.

@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын

I'm currently working on a video dedicated specifically to downscaling. I hope to have it out in a few weeks, but 720p 16:9 -> 240p 4:3 is tricky and ads lag.

@h0laPlaneta 2 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB Could you share the link to this downscaling video please? Could not find it.

@georgen9838 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the informative video! 5:44 you show the 8200 and 8220 side by side... and they are each using different variants of the 8266. Looks like the 8220 uses the D1 style board whereas the 8200 is using the CP2102 (which is also the board you have linked in the description). Was that an intentional choice for a particular reason, or did it just happen to be what you had around (since the layout shouldn't matter)?

@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын

Honestly, it’s all I had access to. I bought from different sources hoping to get a variety, but that’s what I ended up with.

@Jearrohawk 14 күн бұрын

Trying to build one… and stuck. Bob, ive added a clock generator and vga to HDMI out adapter, while inputting via component video. I can only get video feed of 480p from a wii, in “pass-through” only. None of the upscaling presets are “selectable” and when i do select a preset, the screen just goes black. Can i get some help?

@TheSmorsked 4 жыл бұрын

I really need some help with deinterlacing 480i. Hyped for that video :D

@human890209yang Жыл бұрын

My signal input is AV(CVBS). It seems an add-on converter board is needed before the GBS Control or OSSC. Does this extra add-on add latency?

@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын

Zero latency added: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJmpfLqVs5bLe3k.html

@human890209yang Жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB Thanks. I need to switch between 2 CVBS sources from time to time. I guess it maybe similar to the 240p-480i swtich of the consoles. Is a GBS Control with a Koryuu Transcoder the solution for me?

@DigitalJazzArcade 9 ай бұрын

What I'm looking for is a cheap way to direct stream from my arcade cabinets to OBS. Do you have any videos explaining this? Another question is the Wifi. Can I use wifi to get signal from console or arcade to my PC? or is the wifi not used in that manner with this mod? Sorry this is all new to me, I currently stream with webcams recording the arcade screen and want to fix this with direct feed. Without paying hundreds of dollars, but I will spend more money if I need to.

@djrkzr 4 жыл бұрын

Gbscontrol is amazing project for the price. Image quality is up to 20% improved comparing to stock gbs boards. And other thing, just to encourrage people those gbs boards are unbeliveable durable to soldering(meaning if you make mistake just redo it)

@rzeka 4 жыл бұрын

Does the GBS8200 convert Analog -> Digital -> Analog, or does it do all that processing while keeping the signal analog? If it's gonna convert the video to digital at any point, I'd think it would be able to output digital video directly.

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

It's A-D-A. As far as I know, no one's been able to tap digital video from it.

@rzeka 4 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB Thanks

@nerdyneedsalife8315 4 жыл бұрын

So I tried looking online and I'm confused. Does this support CVBS? I saw this one Wordpress blog saying to feed CVBS into sync but I can't tell if they were using any other converter.

@rzeka 4 жыл бұрын

Mine doesn't seem to, but I might be doing something wrong

@DaveVelociraptor 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video. I'm trying to find out the best way to connect Atari ST 320x200 to a CRT VGA monitor as the 15khz scan is out of range. Do you think this is worth a try for that purpose?

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

I THINK this will work, however I don't have an ST to test. If you don't mind building your own hardware/software, I think this is a worthwhile project to test.

@mattsephton 4 жыл бұрын

Search KZfaq I believe there's a video of most home computers to GBS. Atari ST, Amiga, Beeb, etc.

@stevenxw 2 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to use this device to get 240p composite video from an HDMI source? In my head, the setup looks like HDMI from PC -> HDMI to VGA converter into GBS -> VGA to composite converter out of GBS -> 15khz NTSC crt composite input. Would appreciate any help :-)

@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын

Generating composite from RGB is REAAAAALY hard. The short version is because you need a pixel clock to sync the color data. Here's the long version: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5dig8qXv9KZZpc.html

@stevenxw 2 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB Ahh, I see. Thanks for the quick reply! Starting to seem like composite 240p from HDMI source isn't possible at all, unless you have any ideas otherwise. But maybe it would be wiser to go in a different direction, such as original hardware or CRT Emudriver. Thanks again!!

@ClaytonCLF 4 жыл бұрын

I'll be looking forward to those downscaling solutions! I got a PS3 recently and got bummed at how it can't display 240p. Although, the PS1 emulation on it seems worse than people think it may be, because aside from not displaying 240p, it's scaled incorrectly vertically, at least in 480i on my 29" CRT; Symphony of the Night has some tearing when scrolling up or down, though it's not noticeable on 3D games. But the worst thing to me, is the audio delay. Input lag seems fine, but it was impossible not to notice the delay on any audio cue. The PS2 is much, much better at backwards compatibility than the PS3.

@TheSuperjr3000 6 ай бұрын

I have a question if someone can answer but how would one get audio out, my understanding is VGA is only video and not audio so with the VGA to HDMI solutions that have the little aux port how would one get audio from like component cables. Would you need to externally plug the audio cables to the aux input and route it that way? or Does the board have a spot to intercept audio signals from? I'm proficient enough at soldering that I would like to build one myself is why I'm asking

@RetroRGB 6 ай бұрын

I always route only video through the GBS-C, then have audio going from the source to the VGA to HDMI converter.

@TheSuperjr3000 6 ай бұрын

Thank you much appreciated!

@danilodequeiroz9520 3 жыл бұрын

How to use a RGBs / RGsB signals without have to switch sync connector or cables?

@RaydenUMK3 4 жыл бұрын

I have used a few GBS-8200 in the past for converting 25Khz medium resolution arcade games to VGA, I didn't much in there to upgrade it for that purpose, is that correct?

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

I would never recommend using one without the GBS Control mod. The variable lag alone is reason to upgrade.

@andy251203 4 жыл бұрын

GBS control only outputs RGBHV or component, right? How did you plug into your PVM which is RGBs for the PS3 downscale?

@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын

www.retrorgb.com/building-a-passive-sync-combiner.html

@hcjd1 3 жыл бұрын

With gbs 8200 could I bring out component ps2 output into gbs then out a vga cord to vga to the ossc or would I have to do it manditory component to the ossc

@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын

If you're using a PS2, I wouldn't go through the OSSC at all - I'd just use the GBS-C's motion adaptive deinterlacing and get a cheap VGA to HDMI converter.

@hcjd1 3 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB so even if I already have the ossc already I shouldn’t use it with any of the features on the ossc in addition with gbs c? Also does it require a specific resister swap since it’s intially coming out of the component from ps2 through vga hdmi-adapter or in the ossc case vga to vga does anything have to be removed or added in the case of dim display with component or is it fine since its coming out vga instead of component anyway or is that something. With the newer model Bc I have the black button gbs 8200

@Niedajsiepolaku 4 ай бұрын

how to get into settings? you have any app for it on phone for easy settings?

@nya111222 4 жыл бұрын

awesome. finally have a cheap downscaler.

@souocesar 2 жыл бұрын

OMFG "Voultar Nudez" xD That cracked me up xD

@luminvader3131 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bob I love this scaler I added a on off switch to my 100ohm resistor so alot less fuss. Had some wifi issues with mine can be helped with replacing the aluminum heatsync with a ceramic one. Also noticed I'd get wifi drop outs from a sync stripper i made did you have any of these issues?

@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I don't have any of those issues, but I'd like to find an external antenna for the wifi to boost the range.

@luminvader3131 4 жыл бұрын

@@RetroRGB thank you and everyone in this fine community who has made things like this possible for a retro enthusiasts who are on a very tight budget.

@luminvader3131 4 жыл бұрын

Hi bob was doing some searching found a module that does have an external antenna not sure if its compatible but thought I'd share D1 Mini Pro NodeMCU WiFi LUA ESP8266 ESP-12 WeMos Microcontroller w/ Antenna

@joshmccorkle3042 Жыл бұрын

Purchasing the power supply from elsewhere - can anyone confirm the barrel connector measurements? The linked product states 5.5mm outer, and I've heard that 2.1mm inner diameter is correct, just want to make sure it's not 2.5mm. Thanks!

@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын

I use the WSU050-4000 that I discussed in the video. It also works on MiSTer and 5v Neo Geo AES'.

@DrLilo 4 жыл бұрын

I've been using GBS-C as my daily driver for the past month and it's been pretty great, especially for the price. I'm no wizard with the soldering iron and I actually screwed up, damaging the board... But the board only costs £15 so I just bought another one and tried again. Imo, that's pretty much the point, right there.