Well I can't take credit for that as an original idea as it was already established in the community, but glad to share it with you!

Seriously. Just saw that and I'm looking at my 500 storage bins and lagging game and thinking WTF have I done. Saving all that space I don't need to worry about liquid or gas. Though the gas one is nice for the Natural gas storage. I have 3 geysers in my main game so all my power is through them. Unfortunately they have the same cycle activity. So I have this 1000 tile storage with 20kg of natural gas and it still runs low when they are off.

I use auto sweepers after i group all items in one spot. i use conveyor chutes to group them in different spots which makes them look organized and allows me to see how much stuff i have especially on the scarce materials. this only works for the not super hot or super cold materials though.

Storage bins do have the advantage that critters can't eat out of them. ...but you can address that by putting a horizontal pneumatic door over your infinite solid storage, so it doesn't change much.

It has come full circle.

@@GCFungus and now that I also use mods I use the extreme pressure vent to store 200 or 400 kg (not sure when it overpressures but I think it was 400 kg) of oxygen per tile without any fancy infinite storage setup. Worked so far

@@PapaLurts Sounds like a fair balance, I always thought 20kg/tile was way too little which is why I went to infante storage.

@@GCFungus And to be fair I can't keep my colony functioning or even alive for long enough for that to really matter. I just use the exteme pressure vents because then I never really have to deal with disposing of excess gas

A year later and they're a Klei Ambassador. They absolutely deserve it

Thanks for the feedback, I'm happy to be of help!

I like it, used it twice now, my only issue is u have to setup sweep errands or no debris will move, dupes also have a tendency to drop things when they get a break which leaves stuff in weird places lol but I prefer that over those ugly orange ish storages

Yeah I couldn’t get it to work on my last base months ago and thought infinite gas simply wasn’t possible anymore. This tutorial helped a lot!

@@OneBiasedOpinion does it have to be the same way around as in the video? I put the gas vent on the right hand side Edit: nevermind I'm stupid and didnt notice how much water I had on the tile it was over two kg

I find with those pesky dupes it's usually half me being an idiot, half them being suicidal!

@@GCFungus sorry to bother, is this mechanics still work?

@@ngampok Not a bother at all, I love getting comments from my viewers. Yes, certainly as far as I am aware these all still work. They exist because of how the game mechanics are coded, so I don't think they'll change any time.

@@GCFungus thank you a lot, sir

Thanks, there's many more videos planned!

That would make some builds very difficult...

That's true although in that case you'd have to include the walls for any other storage. Either way infinite storage is always much better!

Thanks for the input! I was aware that the game could crash once an upper limit was reached but I wasn't sure where that was. It sounds like a signed 32 bit integer which is being used to store the value - is that number in kg? If so that is an impressive feat to make 2 billion kg of material on one tile!

@@GCFungus Yes it is in Kg. I have stored all of the polluted water in one infinite storage and was in cycle 1150, so I was dumping all excess production and the amount from whole map for later use. BTW I think the issue occured because of the first two tiles behind the last door amount of stuff increases a lot for a short time. And thank you, did not meant to do that, but that is what fun from ONI is all about :D

@@BigMasterSabre would an Escher Waterfall or gas pocket system prevent that? Or is it going to overflow at some point regardless of whether there are any physics interactions going on? Thanks for the heads up!

@@OneBiasedOpinion It is a coding issue, programmers use integer most of the time, there are another data types, but integer is used for most of the numbers. When you have number 2,147,483,647 and try to add one to it, it will overflow and flip back to minus 2,147,483,647 and starts counting from that up if you will be adding numbers and vice versa with subtraction. I think programmers had to change integer to long in Minecraft, but long will overflow at plus or minus 9,223,372,036,854,775,807. So there is nothing you can do about that, you do not want to have more than 2,147,483,647 of stuff at one tile, no matter what. There are some exploits for other games, like when you create very good weapon in Skyrim and its gold value will have negative numbers, that is the same issue, or in diplomacy you can create really bad offer, that it will flip from negative to positive and the AI will think that this offer is like really good :D I hope it helps

@@BigMasterSabre yes that does help. I wasn’t sure if it was just an integer overflow, or if it was a combination of overflow + physics interaction (i.e. everything would fix itself as long as no physics calculations needed to be made with the overflowing integer). I guess this means I’ll need an automated space vent in all of my storage facilities!

The key is to delete the gas pipe in the right area, that will release the gas. I've not had an issue as long as the entire area is full of the liquid you want to use, and also make sure you don't have airflow tiles in the wrong places. Then I find it helps to deconstruct the top gas tile first, and it should be fine.

Possibly, but I'm not sure you'll want to put the egg evolver and freezer in with infinite storage. Mostly because you'd need to cool down the entire storage, which will be quite a lot of gas, and would be especially annoying if you're getting the gas from hotter sources like geysers. Plus you'd want to do it in hydrogen as that is the only really useful gas to store that is also sterile.

I don't have one specifically but it should be fairly straightforward - simply build everything as shown (minus one insulated tile at the 1 high gap) and leave the airlocks unlocked so the dupes can access everything. Once done, lock the doors and build the last tile, then fill with liquid then deconstruct the gas pipes with 2 gases in.

It's 2kg for the normal vent or 20kg for the high pressure vent, so much easier to use that if you have the plastic. I did mention that in the video.

The auto-dispensers are simply set to all filters (maybe not liquifiables to stop things melting) and sweep only. If you don't use sweep only then they will keep picking up everything on the map. Then you just issue sweep commands for anything you want tidied up and dropped there. There is no automation required for doing this. You can also use this with conveyors if you wish, just add a conveyor chute above the tile to drop them in to. But generally manually sweeping is the easier way. Autosweepers are best used when material is constantly being produced in the same place.

Possible, but that's a whole lot of work. Would be a cool project though!

Make sure the Escher waterfall has liquids on both the tank side and the fill side, that way it cannot escape in either direction.

The heavier liquid should fall through, so it shouldn't matter. That said, I would generally say it's easier to put it in the right order just in case the mechanics get a bit weird.

Actually that should still work as long as the liquid vent is on the steam tile, the technique still works. If you need to enter, then you can probably get in if you use a liquid lock with a different liquid to make changes. Another way to fix it would be to use a different liquid (oil is probably the best choice).

would that explode the pipes you are using?

@@claudiachao2999 you would deposit the gas/liquid inside a chamber where it would be super-cooled to freezing, then use an auto-sweeper to place the frozen chunks into a conveyor system. Ideally, all gasses and liquids to be frozen would enter the same chamber, where the auto-sweeper can then sort them into various bins. Once they’re in a conveyor, you only need to shunt them into their assigned storage space, where you can drop them on the floor and let them thaw out slowly. This will effectively give you sorted tanks of each type of substance in its “natural” state without abusing the physics too much. Alternatively, you can just leave everything inside the chamber and have an auto-sweeper on standby to grab chunks to refill tanks as needed via automation. This would theoretically prevent any chance of a tank explosion due to overpressure ever occurring inside your base. And trust me, you’ll know how bad one of those can be after an accidental rupture drowns your base in liquid hydrogen or rock gas. 🥶

if they make a tile , you gonna lose half of materials you put in.

​@@saeeddavoody6925 Yes, materials should be submitted in small portions to avoid that and care should be taken to prevent cooling from going offline, but once it was established it worked fine.

@@denismayak you are right, it is a way of doing it which is fine , it just needs so much time to build a working machine with automation to ensure that it won't break and put so much power into it . maybe i will test that in my recent base once i get to late game and freeze entire map . it would be kinda funny.

Actually with the latest patch, the gas reservoir was significantly buffed so it is a lot more viable now.

Kind of, although in real life as the pressure inside increases, the doors have to work harder and harder which means more energy.

@@GCFungus Compared to a SPOM, a literal perpetual motion machine, infinitely hard tiles aren't that bad.

@@GCFungus

Was thinking the same thing, posted a video with the layout kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNmXoLyqsJncoqc.html

Did you make it 2 tiles wide, as 1 tile will definitely break and more can be a bit dodgy.

@@GCFungus I got it to work now. It was a bit tricky but I tried a few time

The mechanics are definitely still working. I'm a little confused by your reported error as it relates to pumps not the vents? The vent needs to be in liquid which is less than the overpressure of the vent. If you use a normal vent then the maximum liquid can be 2kg/tile, and 20kg/tile for the high-pressure vent.

@@GCFungus orry my mistake it was "vent over pressure" i have 20kg of Salt water over the vent in a vacuum.

The answer was there was too much salt water on each square, less than 10kg seems to work.

Is the liquid 2 tiles wide and below the maximum output pressure of the vent and suitable for the temperatures of the gas? Otherwise I'd need some more info to work out thr issue.

@@GCFungus I used water as that’s what I had available that didn’t off gas. I must have had too much in the space, when I made it larger it worked fine (I went from 2 squares to 4 squares for the liquid). Thanks for the reply and excellent videos!

This is not correct, you can double check in game or on the wiki but it is 2000g per tile. Offgassing is overpressurized at 1800g per tile which may be what you're thinking of.

Omg I did really believe that it was 1800

@@GCFungus Yeah I'm sorry that was the one! Omg

I’ve been able to use the liquid on gas vent method on my save just fine. Do u have the right amount of liquid and tiles?

It does work, just be very careful with the liquid mass. The normal gas vent will overpressure at 2kg/tile, and the high pressure one at 20kg/tile. If you put more liquid than that then the vent will be overpressured.

Ah that's a good point actually, thanks for mentioning that. To be honest I only used the door compression with gases in practice (although now I've swapped to using the liquid method anyway) and now use escher waterfalls for liquids. If you're using gases then they will simply squash in, but putting liquids into a gas area will be problematic.

@@GCFungus actually this is my mistake, it work perfectly even with gas in it. my airlock mod is causing the water deletion. i apologize

Well, I have a similar problem. Mine's a salt water geyser with the door compressing system. The calculated average output is 2.51 kg/s and I'm using 2.32 k/s in a water boiler for desalination porpouse... but somehow, after a couple of docens of cycles, the liquid compressor goes empty and I don't know why. It is in a perfect vacumm and the settings for the automation are the same for every geyser I use. Could it be a bug showing me a wrong output amount?

Well you can certainly play without this but it does make things harder. I've definitely seen players do it though and be just fine!

Another commenter mentioned a while ago that it was 2,147,483,647 kg - so you would have to be going a while to gather so much material. FPS wise I'm not sure, but different gases interacting definitely takes more computation than just one gas in storage, so better if you can reduce gas mixing.

Well with the latest update, the gas reservoir just got hugely expanded so is definitely a viable choice now, although still not as good as a set and forget infinite storage.

@@GCFungus to be honest. I don't know how people play the game without mods. Such as bigger storage tanks, double power, tooltips, piping everything and expanded cooking. There is a point when it's stressful to play, vs a reasonable and enjoyable challenge. Thanks to your incredibly useful tutorials, the game is actually playable. It certainly wouldn't hurt for a in depth tutorial in-game.

For escher waterfalls I find easier to use outputs of brudges than inputs. All is so much easier said and done in debug mode, than in normal gameplay. Using bridge outputs rather than inputs gives you the advantage to empty the pipes without using pliers and deconstruct the bridges anytime, before finally releasing gasses from the single segments.

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They could be considered exploits but they are available game mechanics so it's up to each player whether they want ti use it or not.

Don't use them then. People are going to play the game they bought with their own money however they see fit, same as you do. Enjoy!

i agree, i think one way to fix it would be to automatically disable gas vents if there is any amount of liquid in front of them any form of abuse of game mechanics to make something infinite is just lame

The entire game is a physics sandbox wrapped up in “survival base manager” paper. I’d say exploiting the physics is well within intended parameters. If you don’t like it, don’t use it. Simple as.

@@OneBiasedOpinion "Physics" implies realistic physics. Infinite storage is obviously not realistic physics, and it seems like it was in the game unintentionally. There are a lot of other ways the game breaks from reality but usually those are clearly intentional. Though it is strange that some blocks break and others don't. Would it really be different if all materials could break?

It does not make the game really really easier. Instead of preventing this exploit they should offer decent ways of stocking gases. We should be able to compress them with a dedicated device.