Gear Talk:Chinese Boreal Shirt

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3 жыл бұрын

Ordered one of the fake Boreal shirts: Here's the report.
Took 42 days for it to arrive.
Not wool: Cotton/Poly Blend
Size: Ran small compared to my Lester River
Color: Lighter than the OD ordered.
Fit: Small and awkward, the face shield is too high and stiff. The shock cord does not slide through the grommets properly, as a result it tries to strangle you!
Weight: Probably half of the Lester River weight
Pockets; No inside pockets like the Lester River
Cost: $42.99 (bought on the half price sale)
Basically it's a light weight hoodie with a face shield built in, in my opinion not worth the money and not even close to what is advertised.
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@Woodswalker1965 3 жыл бұрын

Nicely done. My image was used in those ads. Great way to expose these crooks. 👍

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent!

@blackhatbushcraft 3 жыл бұрын

The sweatshirt was free, they sold the shipping lol! It is pretty cool that you actually ordered one to show what a fraud it is. It TICKS me off every time I see the add showing LESTER RIVER and WEATHERWOOL products being shown. If you can get any wear out of it, I guess the 42.00 isn't terrible. It does look fairly well made just out of inferior material. I will definitely share this video! Thanks buddy.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt, I actually saw a student with one at a class last year. I'll throw it in the van so we can all laugh at it when we get together again.

@EPGunman 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review!!! Not to mention the information!!! Have a good one sir

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@hial22 3 жыл бұрын

I love that you film inside of the garage.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks? I film from lots of places, this is where I spend most of my time when I'm home, it's my project space.

@MNAZ12 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service.

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

You too!

@silvermountainman2562 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I’d seen this video earlier. My fake pullover arrived last week, and I waited 2 months to receive it. I spent $88. I gave it away, but will hold on to my Expensive lesson for life … 😅

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Sad thing is, it's not a bad pullover for the money (on sale) but it's not what they advertise.

@southernlandsolo7839 3 жыл бұрын

Cool review, thanks bro. No sheep were harmed in the making of this garment

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

That's for sure!

@rlbranch65 3 жыл бұрын

Wished I had seen this before purchasing myself. However I was able to stop my bank from processing the payment. Thanks for sharing this.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you got the payment stopped.

@rlbranch65 3 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays, yeah I was worried after seeing other's comments. Guess the old saying "Too good to be true" was accurate. But thank you for your video as it may help others avoid making the same decision.

@calvecg 3 жыл бұрын

After seeing the ad 10 times a day, I finally bit. Just got it, then went to KZfaq and found this video. This is exactly what I got, except mine doesn't even have the material tag (it does have the "Styledesign" tag.) Well, I should have known better, that's about all I can say.

@rickparsons3593 3 жыл бұрын

I did same thing, must been on same boat got it yesterday also. I forwarded all the info to Lester River.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

It was a long time coming, that's for sure.

@sniper12121991 3 жыл бұрын

I noticed the video ad had clips of the Weatherwool Anorak and thats what tipped me off. lol And not even 1% of wool. Thanks for review. Enjoyed the video and the experiment.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I recognized the ad material they were using as well. That's actually why I tried this little experiment to begin with. They use stuff from Lester River and Weatherwool in their ads.

@leejuhsu 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video! I was just wondering how come they use the photos and videos that aren't theirs.

@MrPatronio 3 жыл бұрын

Ha! I got one too. I don’t “hate” it but it really is cheap and lightweight

@MichaelR58 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing , God bless !

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@robslagle 3 жыл бұрын

I knew from the price it had to be too good to be true. 100% wool ain’t cheap

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I normally ignore stuff like this but I knew where the advertising video and pictures came from and knew it wasn't legit.

@danielcharbonneau222 3 жыл бұрын

LOL great review. Man ya that ad flooded Facebook and like you said lots of highly praised responses. It was about time we see reality. Thanks man.

@TheArkansasBushcrafter 3 жыл бұрын

They will recruit and send people the products for free in exchange for good reviews

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I knew it was going to be junk or just never come in at all.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

They didn't bother this time, they just stole footage from the companies and put it in the ads as their own. I actually surprised anything came in at all. The company name on the label is YIFEN.

@richardgummere84 3 жыл бұрын

I saw all the ads too and something didn't seem legit. Thanks for the video

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I recognized the the photos and video they used and knew where it came from so I started hounding them a little through the comments. then they had the half price sale for Christmas so I decided to order and see what happened. I was actually put on a 3 day time out by FaceBook for posting the same comment on multiple ads.

@trynsurviven2440 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not too surprised really. When I saw the ad I thought I had seen the product they were showing somewhere else. I wonder if Lester Rivers knows.

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

They do, same with Weather Wool, very little can be done.

@james_lessick892 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the hit for the team. Not gonna order that! Lol.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

No sweat, I knew it was going to be junk when I ordered it.

@jenniferbauman4802 Жыл бұрын

Good video. I say field test the hell out of that shirt. And do an update. I guess it's for those who cannot afford or sew one together from a wool blanky. But they should not be showing you one thing and give you something else. I bet if you looked at the info on it it said cotton and polyester. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts. They all most got me on it. I think I make one out of my wool blanky 70 - 30 . And save some money.

@Otis010707 2 жыл бұрын

What you got was better than what I rcv'd! Mine screamed cheap velour...

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

That's basically what this is ..... very low insulation value!

@johnburgin7478 3 жыл бұрын

Assuming this is what Joshua E was talking about on Fascist Book a couple of weeks ago . Unscrupulous businesses everywhere. Looks like fleece. Thanks for posting

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Josh was actually talking about another situation but same basic problem, false advertising . Fleece would be better! The ads have slowed down on my FB feed but I fully expect to see them come around again.

@johnburgin7478 3 жыл бұрын

Steady barrage of stuff on Fascist Book and here . I can watch one of y’all’s videos and I’m flooded with similar / suggested content.

@randyrc58 3 жыл бұрын

I've seen the ads. I knew they were stealing from the makers of real wool anoraks. I own a boreal mountain anorak and recognized the footage from them. Dirty dogs

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I knew where the advertising came from as well, that's why I started down this path!

@paulmood308 3 жыл бұрын

These ads target those that can’t or won’t pony up $295 for a pullover made from green army blankets. But, as usual, you get what you pay for. For $295, I would hope you’re getting a quality made product.

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@TheOriginalFILIBUSTA 2 жыл бұрын

When you showed the Chinese address, you also showed all your personal coordinates.

@peterstevens6555 2 жыл бұрын

Hello from Auckland, New Zealand ...I just brought one yesterday, hope it's not a fake !!!

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

It will depend on where you bought it from. Good luck!

@peterstevens6555 2 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays Brought it from the Lester River Bushcraft in the U.K. !!!

@jryan0891 3 жыл бұрын

I saw the bogus adds for those things. Fortunately I have a Lester River and know you’d never get a good one for that price. I reported the ad to FB. Who knows if they ever get any consequences for their dishonesty.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I reported four or five of the ads, there never went away. Then I got a 3 day "time-out" from FB for going though and posting the same comment on about 8 different ads for this product.

@billwatson3527 2 жыл бұрын

I have a $40.00 100% wool boreal pullover jacket. I paid $35.00 dollars for a surplus blanket, $5.00 for a pattern, and ask my wife to make me one. No way I was paying over $200.00 to have a blanket made into a jacket. Was able to get some matching wool mittens out of the deal with a string attached.

@jrallmond9481 2 жыл бұрын

That's brilliant! What pattern did you use?

@billwatson3527 2 жыл бұрын

@@jrallmond9481 I got the pattern from " Green Pepper Patterns". It is more than $5.00 now. Pattern # 124. I went with the Fairbanks because the cuffs can be closed or left loose. Also, had her make me one out of a poncho liner.

@saltydogsays Жыл бұрын

Always great when you can do it yourself, I've made several myself.

@michaelmccoy7429 3 жыл бұрын

I also ordered something else (can't remember what exactly) and it never arrived.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I am actually surprised that anything came in from this. I knew it wouldn't be anywhere close to what they were advertising if it did happen to show up. It annoyed me that they had just stolen the videos and picture from other manufacturers and didn't even try to make it look like their own.

@michaelmccoy7429 3 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays right. I don't like when they do that either

@TravisTellsTruths 2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Wow is right!

@randallminchew6780 3 жыл бұрын

I keep seeing this on Facebook as well. I'll klick hide add and it just comes back with a different name but same add.

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Last fall they were operating under about a dozen different company names ... all the same ad, they finally banned me from all their ads because I was going through and posting a link to this video in the comment section of every ad.

@shawnr771 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Black Hat Bushcraft sent me. I see that you are a veteran. Thank you for your service. A little constructive criticism. Write yourself a script or a set of bullet points to cover. Ones that you can read without squinting. It will help your presentation. Thanks again for the heads up.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and welcome aboard.

@shawnr771 3 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays You are most welcome.

@MNAZ12 3 жыл бұрын

Batttleship Sailor here. USS NEW JERSEY

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@karimkalache712 2 жыл бұрын

Why doesn't Facebook ban this ad?

@karimkalache712 2 жыл бұрын

And Amazon is still running this product 👎

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Because they are paying for placement. Follow the money.

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Amazon gets a cut of all the third party marketing .... always follow the money.

@1SaltyAmerican 3 жыл бұрын

Sumbitches got me twice! Once from 2 different sites. My own damn fault. The next one i order will be from lester river lol

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

You won't be sorry after you own one.

@Otis010707 2 жыл бұрын

Yo Salt! What pissed me off more than the cheesy quality was that they had the stones to charge me for expedited shipping and it took FOREVER to arrive! And PayPal even gave me a hard time with the refund request!

@karimkalache712 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going through the refund process right now. They first offered me $5 then $9, I'm still going back and forth waiting for a reply right now. Sucks bro!

@Otis010707 2 жыл бұрын

@@karimkalache712 When they blew off my angst over getting charged for expedited shipping and blamed it on the US-based shipping agent I lost my shit. These people are absolute scum and belong in jail.

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Mine took over 40 days to arrive and quite a few emails bounced back and forth.

@JACKnJESUS 2 жыл бұрын

Now here is a guy...that doesn't...eat soup. Edit: C'mon...it's a bit unfair to compare one clothing that is ten times the price of the other. Is the OG worth ten of the knockoffs? No, it is not. Life is a tradeoff...

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Valid points, however, if they knew their product was comparable would they use the other companies advertising material to boost their own sales. No they would not. I said in the video that it was an ok pullover, just not at all what they advertise. They advertise 100 percent wool but the product you receive is zero percent wool. So yes, the OG that they advertise is worth 19 times what you actually receive.

@JACKnJESUS 2 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays For that to be true...using your own example here...your position is that the wool is 19 times better than the material of the knock offs... back to tradeoffs. Don't get me wrong...this is the real deal and worth the coin.

@kenuber4766 Жыл бұрын

You need to stop feeding the "Chi Com's"!!

@togster186 3 жыл бұрын

Hope you sanitized yourself after handling everything lol I got Boreal , and Love it.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I ain't scared!!

@richardstyron5716 3 жыл бұрын

Cotton is the new China word for wool.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

I guess it could have been the language barrier that confused me!

@karimkalache712 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I gotta be honest about is why has the genuine item gone up in price since the scam? I got duped by the cheap shit, but thought okay one day I'll get that really one to take the sting out of it. Videos of guys online with the genuine one saying they paid $250 usd for it, it now shows as $335 on the website. Why is that? Covid? Or increased traffic from the scam? That's not ethical if it the latter.

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

I am told by at least two of the manufacturers that the price of wool has increased a lot. I guess the bug killed the sheep too!

@karimkalache712 2 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays that's what the river trading company told me too, sorry forgot the name. But at over $400 both for the Canadian or American one they are out of touch for me now. I'll look at other products. Thanks for the reply!

@richhoule3462 2 жыл бұрын

Do all SeaBees grow gnarly beards and smoke cigars after they retire lol? My friend from high school did the same. Hell you probably know him

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's pretty much a given for most. You never know, it's a small community!

@richhoule3462 2 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays You guys get it done!

@luciferiancheflux1967 2 жыл бұрын

Boreal Anorak - montreal -Quebec speak with Andy ..

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

I currently sport a Lester River, not sure how that one compares.

@luciferiancheflux1967 2 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays - To be honest there both fantastic products. I have friends both. it came down to it’s made in my city . 30 min from house i’m glad i did . cheers . unless you want another one you can have one of each I also bought their blanket from boreal amazing well worth it for me because we have land all year round Cheers

@michaelmccoy7429 3 жыл бұрын

This seems like 90% of stuff off wish. Its all garbage. I ordered a schmage off wish and the threading was so loose that it wouldn't stop a marble from going through

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

All true!

@Mr808islands 3 жыл бұрын

Safer order amazon

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Exact same thing on Amazon, they stole the photos and videos from Lester River and Weatherwool and send you this piece of junk.

@valyard 3 жыл бұрын

Everything I ever seen advertised on Facebook, was either chinese imitation crap or could be got cheaper on Amazon, including shipping.

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

It got my attention because I knew where the advertising videos were stolen from.

@will1231 Жыл бұрын

I got mine i was so disappointed my butt is still hurting china had some of it.

@saltydogsays Жыл бұрын

Live and learn I guess!

@adamcarfield7201 3 жыл бұрын

Don't ever order anything off wish same ship

@saltydogsays 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@johnl.8616 2 жыл бұрын

Made of Chinesium.

@clifflanderwalkitoff7650 3 жыл бұрын

I got on , cotton and polyester rubbish

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Yep!

@TBOR101 3 жыл бұрын

Well great public service announcement...Sorry it cost you 42 bucks though, but hey you probably started the wheel in motion to bankrupt that cheesy chinese company 👍👍

@saltydogsays 3 жыл бұрын

Probably won't hurt them at all, they have dozens of ads on different platforms and they just keep changing the company names and running the ads over and aver again. Just wanted to confirm what I knew and let the viewers know.

@TBOR101 3 жыл бұрын

@@saltydogsays maybe, but your experience will cascade through the community