This is maybe the best, most thorough review I've ever watched!
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words
@danielkutcher57042 жыл бұрын
Looks like a winner, Mark! A square frying pan with tight-fitting lid would make a good case to keep the sharp points from poking the contents of the backpack. A good canvas envelope could keep the inside of the pan clean. I have no idea where to procure such a pan, but it's something worth exploring.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I see square pans often at the thrift store. I will measure and see if I can find a match. Thanks for commenting
@davidlewis65282 жыл бұрын
The stove is excellent as is the video. I have had one for more than a year and have used it many times. Best sleeve to store this stove in, in addition to 2 steel tent pegs and the 5" x 5" grate is a cargo pocket salvaged from a pair of worn out cargo pants. Thanks for the great video and keep up the good work Mark.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks for commenting
@patriciaribaric34092 жыл бұрын
I like the simplicity of the design.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is one of the best aspects of this stove. Thanks for commenting
@razifmahathir24372 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, greetings from sunny and slowly emerging from lockdown Malaysia 🇲🇾. Great and comprehensive review of this neat little stove. Not sure that we have any stockists for this one in our part of the world but certainly going to check it out. Stay safe 😷
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Hello to you as well. You could always see what James at Siege Stoves would charge for shipping. Thanks for commenting
@thomascronquist16043 жыл бұрын
Mark, Great review. I have the cross member bars that I purchased about 12 years ago. Just ordered the Gen 3. Your costing me another $ investment for camping. I will be making a leather cover for the Seige Stove. Thank you, Tom C
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
A leather case will be nice. All I made for mine was a simple cordura nylon type case. Thanks for commenting
@michaeldavidheit2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your well done and very informative video. I have had one for over a year but have not yet used it. I'm glad I watched your video because your ideas and suggestions have given me motivation to get mine out and use it, and to make a set of metal stakes as you did. I hadn't thought of alternative fuels but your video has inspired me to do so. Not just pellets, or chunk charcoal or alcohol; I do have a good supply of chunk hickory and other woods for my smoker and I'm thinking that some hickory and a nice cut of moose steak might be a great first meal on the stove. Thank you sir ...
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video helpful. Enjoy your new stove. Thanks for commenting
@debonairedragon2 жыл бұрын
I've had the original for years and can't rate it highly enough. The addition of the stove instead of using a can (or ikea utensil holder) looks great. Might be time to make another purchase. I also want to point out just how great the customer service was from seige. My original purchase came with a set of stands that didn't quite go together properly (I think he was still hand making them at that stage) I got in contact and he sent out a new set free of charge including postage and I'm in Australia so I can tell you that wouldn't have been cheap. I have an original emberlit stove too but the seige has been my favourite for years.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Right on. Great stove, great company. Thanks for commenting
@vvogt42522 жыл бұрын
You are a Great Sales man! Now this stove is on my list to buy. Thanks Mark for the info about this Cool stove. Have a Great Day Brother.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for commenting
@terryw.milburn85652 жыл бұрын
Passed Your Test With Great Success, Thanks For Sharing This, Mark ! ATB T God Bless
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Yes, a very nice stove. Thanks for commenting Terry
@jongjoorhee9312 жыл бұрын
Hello, Mark. I like it. I like it a lot. This is a kind of stove I love to have with me on the trail. Light weight, folds down flat, good air flow and sturdy, versatile and skeletonised bottom and top cross bars to boot. What is not to like. I think I am going to get 2 for me and my son with 2 more sets of cross bars. Yes, I am keeping my firebox stove and all my chinese copies of famous stoves, too. I have a set of 12 long (14 inches) stainless steel tent pegs for wet seasons. I would use them to move the stove if I have to by putting through the holes of bottom cross bars. Appreciate the great info and presentation, Mark.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Wow, another happy customer😊. Kidding aside, I am sure you will like the stove. Thanks for commenting
@SIEGESTOVES2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark for such a superb and thorough review. As you observed, the visual simplicity of the design conceals years of real-world testing and refinement. This was done while maintaining a focus on keeping the design as clean and simple as possible and at the same time optimizing for a variety of capabilities. I am reminded of the many historic figures who have apologized for writing long letters, explaining that it would have taken too much time to write a short letter. The Siege Stove is the equivalent of that short letter - high-performance, functionality and durability, uncluttered by anything unnecessary or finicky, or which might compromise the stove. From the get-go we were committed to making the stoves in the USA on philosophical grounds (which also helps ensure material purity and fabrication consistency). We also keep prices competitive by applying very low margins and only selling direct. Whereas most retail products have 4x and higher mark-ups on the production costs (the manufacturer wholesales it for double their cost, and the retailer doubles it again), the end-user price for our titanium Cross-Members, for example, is closer to just 1.5 x our core production costs (material & laser fabrication) - quite a lot lower than what manufacturers generally even charge as a wholesale price. To give further context to how reasonable our prices are, without mentioning any specific stoves, our US-made 100% titanium Flat-Pack Stove (made from US-produced aerospace-grade Ti) is priced significantly lower than the similar-fuel capacity $160 Chinese-made and $220 German-made titanium hinged stoves listed on Amazon, while also being a lighter and more compact carry. Hinges provide some convenience but at the price of weight and size, and we have seen reports of hinges warping over time (as well as the floor plates), rendering hinged stoves unable to be folded up or out (some hinge components may also not be titanium, and in the case of the $220 stove, the floor plate is stainless steel (to mitigate the potential warpage lock-up), so stoves that are billed as titanium are not always all titanium). We designed our stoves to last generations, with nothing to break down (a little warping of the walls is normal and will have no impact on stove function). With a little practice the Siege Stove can be assembled in 25-40 seconds and disassembled in under 10 seconds. Identical walls and the ability to interconnect components in almost any order (walls or cross-members first) also means that one never has to worry about assembling parts out of sequence and having to back-track. Thanks again! Siege Stoves
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Hello James and thank you for commenting on my video. Your stove totally surpassed my expectations. It deserves more attention than it has received. I am very happy with my purchase
@fool4682 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark for this thorough review, and thank you Seige Stoves for the great design. I bought and received the titanium version and was not disappointed. I also have a Firebox, and was shocked and how much lighter this stove is for virtually the same functionality and utility. Well done to both of you, and I look forward to Mark highlighting this stove in future videos.
@MrFmiller2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a great portable fireplace. I would use 2” X 4” long splits vertically with smaller slivers once coals are established. Crowding the fuel would make it last longer.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Yes, thicker and more splits make for a better long burn fuel load for sure. Thanks for commenting
@willowufgood12542 жыл бұрын
Bientôt, on pourra se lancer dans la production. Je suis aussi en recherche d'amélioration de tout ces produits. Pour protéger la nature, forêt, et ne plus être en survie en nature. Au contraire, rendre la vie sûre, en forêt et autres lieux. Un grand merci encore et encore. Magnifique vidéo ! Pouvoir se parler comprendre sans parler le même langage. Will low.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Je suis heureux que vous ayez apprécié la vidéo. Dois-je comprendre que vous allez produire vos propres poêles à bois ?
@willowufgood12542 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft cela est fort possible et pas seulement rechaud. Tout ce qui mène à une vie plus sûre en nature.
@Woodswalker19652 жыл бұрын
Great stove Mark. Impressive size to weight ratio. Nice burn too 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I would like it at first but it grew on me. Thanks for commenting Wade
@Jim-vi4hh2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Your purchase of the stove speaks volumes about the quality of the stove. You mention that these grates will work with other types of stoves. I also watched your video with the grates and colander as a wood stove. My question is when you might use the colander and grates rather than the Siege stove itself. Take care.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim. I assume you mean the Siege Stove cross members. They can be purchased separately and used with a variety of containers to create a stove. Most often, it is the Ikea utensil strainer but it could be almost any can. Placing them on the steamer is just another way of using them and saving money. Not really about which is better for certain situations. If you have the full Gen 3 flat pack stove, you really don't need anything else. Thanks for commenting
@benthere80512 жыл бұрын
That's a nice stove, Mark.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I think so too! Thanks for commenting
@willowufgood12542 жыл бұрын
Amélioration, inverser, section plus large vers le bas. Essayer avec forme rectangulaire pour faciliter un ajout de recharge carburant, bois, trappe visite et bois sur la longueur et combustion toujours sur partie basse, 1ère combustion, important. Puis rajouter une parois pour effet pyrolyse. Préfère, ce modèle au rond car tiens moins de place et meilleur apport de petit bois avec pyrolyse, plus économique. Merci, Will
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Merci pour vos remarques et suggestions
@dennisley35532 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, Matt. I had been wondering about your health… looking good.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Feeling great
@gavinlait88412 жыл бұрын
My go-to stove review guy No1...
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words
@jasonjohnson63442 жыл бұрын
I recently got the folding SS backpacking stove from Winnerwell. I got the optional raised stand for it too. It is larger than this one and it’s heavier but it pops into ready, very quickly. Both the stove and the riser fit into the box the riser came in and…without actually going to measure it, I’d guess the box is about 7”x7”x1 1/4”. I have the stove you’re discussing too, in SS. I like it great for backpacking but I mostly car camp and the Winnerwell is a better option for that IMO. Always great info from you. 👍👍
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I had looked at the Winnerwell some time ago. I need to take a second look. Thanks for commenting
@JackBlack-gh5yf2 жыл бұрын
Nice stove! You're costing me a fortune Mark! :D
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
You and me both! Actually, I am very happy with this stove. Thanks for commenting
@JackBlack-gh5yf2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks for another great review Mark, very thorough and insightful, as always.
@RaindanceBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Huh. Cool stove. I’ve never even heard of it before. I just received the KIHD stove, but I haven’t had time to test it yet. I really like the looks of that Siege stove, though.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I have been wanting a KIHD stove for some time but the price is a bit high. Yes I know, Canadian. If someone can tell me it is worth the extra I will buy one
@RaindanceBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yeah, it wasn’t cheap, but honestly, the only other stoves I know are the Firebox and the uh… whatever that German one is called. Both are $$$, so maybe my view of what these cost is skewed. Before getting the KIHD, the only stoves I had were (are, actually) a Firebox nano that one of my subs gave me, and my trusty IKEA cutlery caddy stove.
@randal14702 жыл бұрын
Neat, looking forward to seeing more of this one.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we will be able to get out and use it together soon
@melissahoffman46872 жыл бұрын
If you want to Mark you can drill a can sized hole in the middle of the stove so it can mimic a rocket stove and gasifier at once. It may be easier to put sticks in. :)
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
It would make a big change to airflow but I am not sure it would either gasify or have the height for the chimney effect. For me, it is very easy to add sticks as is. Thanks for commenting
@TheTarotCardGuy2 жыл бұрын
Great review Mark. My biggest 'turn off' of these stoves, is the fact that you have to put them together. Not a big deal in 3 seasons, but come winter time when its freezing rain or snow my fingers lose a lot of their dexterity and my patience is usually running low. Thats the main reason i went with the Firebox, and SimpleTheory stoves; No assembly required. I'd love your input or maybe an update once the temps drop and the snow starts falling. Love your videos and value your insite !
@connorf68622 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with this. In the dead of winter some of these tasks can become a real chore. Firebox for this reason is a hit for me.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with a folding stove in winter for ease of setup. Having said that, we rarely get below -25C / -13F here in Nova Scotia. Most days I go out in winter it is -10C. I find that if I have been at all active, my hands remain warm enough to handle a stove, especially if I am wearing thinner gloves. I really do not like cold hands so I usually have two pair of gloves with me. One more recommendation is to take a larger stove like this one as they work much better in the cold dues to a critical mass of heat they can generate. Thanks for commenting
@TheTarotCardGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks for the feedback. I have bad arthritis in my finger joints from years of martial arts and the cold makes my fingers almost unbendable if exposed for too long or if they are wet as well. Thin gloves may very well prove to be a viable option. I will have to try that out.
@billheckman59372 жыл бұрын
Another nice review. It looks like a neat stove, however, as others have mentioned these "puzzle" stoves are not for me when the weather is cold and miserable. I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy yours when it arrives. I will be interested in seeing the bag/envelope yo make for it.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Sure, I can show the case off. Thanks for commenting
@redsorgum2 жыл бұрын
Like with the Trangia, I would try laying the pot stands flat for the wood pellets, unless it restricts the airflow. Great review.👏👏👏👏
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Yes, worth trying. Thanks for commenting
@l.v.i.bushcraftandsurvival66922 жыл бұрын
It's a good stove, and I have several variants I tested out and showcased personally. Titanium - made in USA, almost an unheard of thing. I recommend Siege Stove products myself.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Right on. Thanks for commenting
@AndiTMMT Жыл бұрын
Herzlichen Dank für dieses sehr gute Review. Da bekomme ich Lust, den guten Siege Stove zu kaufen. Beste Grüße aus Deutschland
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Ich freue mich, dass Sie das Video hilfreich fanden. Ich habe auch eine Reihe großartiger Öfen aus Deutschland überprüft. Vielen Dank für Ihren Kommentar
@AndiTMMT Жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Eine Frage. Welches sind heute, nach ihren vielen Vergleichen/ Test aktuell für Sie die 2 besten Stoves, ihre Favoriten?
@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
@@AndiTMMT Das ist so sehr schwer zu beantworten. Ich betrachte den Siege Stove und Bushcraft Essentials LF ganz oben auf meiner Liste. Aber auch der klassische Firebox Stove und der neue Firebox Freestyle. Ich habe Bewertungen für sie alle. Hoffe das hilft
@AndiTMMT Жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Vielen Dank. Ich werde Sie mir in den kommenden Tagen ansehen, vergleichen und hoffe, meinen Favoriten zu finden. Bisher nutze ich nur den Trangia sowie den Primus Omnilite Ti - auch im Trangia. Aber die Möglichkeit mit Holz zu kochen und zu wärmen ist, denke ich, eine gute und schöne Ergänzug. Viele Grüße.
@scouternushka2672 жыл бұрын
As of July 2022 approx $201 Cdn for Ti Flat Pack, Ti cross members, 2 stainless side toasters, large pouch and shipping. Would prefer to spend less than $200.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is unreal. I paid half that. What has happened.
@davidtiner40942 жыл бұрын
Hello Mark, I would like to tell you about using a 16oz can to hold a wood pellet fire rather than making alterations to your many stoves. Drill 1/4" holes in the bottom of the can, 2 rows of holes around the outside near the bottom and 1 row 1" below the top. It will work almost as a gasifier stove but it is only a burner to be used in other stoves. 2 handfuls of pellets will work almost for 30 minutes. Very little smoke, nothing but a little ash left, and it only takes a can from the trash and 5 minutes to make. Fairly wind friendly.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave. I do have videos on using a smaller version of the Ikea utensil strainer that matched the 16oz can is size. I will try adding that (and a 16oz can) to a few stoves and talk about using them in a future. Thanks for commenting
@overweighthikerwannabe9012 жыл бұрын
Maybe if the bottom cross members were on perpendicularly instead of diagonally they'd be less 'tippy' with the stick method of moving the stove. Seem like the weight would be balanced better and more even.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Still tricky but might be easier. I will give that a try. Thanks for commenting
@charlesfaulkner86532 жыл бұрын
Love the review Mark but I’ll stick with the Firebox stove. I’ll probably give my stainless to one of my kids and get the titanium model. Thanks for sharing.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chuck. Can't go wrong with the Firebox in SS or Ti. Thanks for commenting
@sorinoutdoors54182 жыл бұрын
Good review as always Mark, but too expensive for what it is. Stick with my Ti Bush box, super happy with it.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat the Bushbox in titanium. Thanks for commenting
@redoak38092 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Mark. I want one in Titanium. It seems a little fiddly, though, and those trade-mark cross pieces would be much nicer if they weren't as high and designed just for this stove. Have you checked out the Picogrill 85 Stove? I think it is also a winner.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I am considering mods to lower the height of the cross members, setting them in parallel. Yes, I have a video on the Picogrill 85 coming out shortly. Thanks for commenting
@jasonjohnson63442 жыл бұрын
The height of the pot stand actually leaves fairly adequate space for feeding fuel into the stove without having to move the pot/pan.
@jackvoss58412 жыл бұрын
I think that charcoal burns at a much higher temperature than wood. Seems to me that might shorten the life of the stove? Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@orraman54273 жыл бұрын
If one end of your skewers was bent into a hook would it be possible to hook them into the base member which has the notches and lift the complete stove? The hook would have to be quite a tight fit on the thickness of the cross member to give you some control while lifting but the square cut out looks large enough for this to work. It looks like a nice wee stove, it all comes down to price. ATB.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
That is an idea I will take a look at. Unfortunately, American made titanium products will always be more expensive that off-shore. Thanks for commenting
@jackvoss58412 жыл бұрын
Stove looks good. I never thought of moving a stove once lit. I still don’t. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@adamnoman46582 жыл бұрын
@@MarkYoungBushcraft : You give a down-vote for a problem that you yourself admit will almost never occur but which can, in any case, be easily solved with the Leatherman that you carry at one of the "feet" and a skewer or twig through one of the upper holes at the opposite side.
@sirdee96072 жыл бұрын
Great Stove
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@CitizenJane-2 жыл бұрын
I watched the video where you use charcoal in this unit. Impressive ! Does charcoal make the food taste ? Mostly hardwood around me.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I like using charcoal when we have a fire ban as we are still permitted to do so. It gives a good amount of steady, almost smokeless heat for cooking. I prefer natural hardwood charcoal as it has no binders like briquettes have. Burns hotter and faster but does not add unwanted flavours to the food. For real wood, I prefer hardwood unless it is just a quick boil up. Softwoods often leave a bad taste on food as well as a lot of resin on the pots. Thanks for commenting
@melissahoffman46872 жыл бұрын
Can you add a propane or butane burner into this stove? Just curious.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
So, I had not included that in the video but will in an update. Yes, a Trangia style gas adapter will fit well but a small modification is need to allow the bottom plate to accept other gas burners. Thanks for commenting
@emmanueljesusmacalalag1932 Жыл бұрын
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@MarkYoungBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words
@thomasfaaborg7392 жыл бұрын
As allways. simple is better.
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Thanks for commenting
@jimf19642 жыл бұрын
Other than not being made in China, I have to say I’m not too impressed. Maybe I’m just grumpy today, but I feel like it had little effort into designing it and the advantages are just something you found by looking for it. Unless it’s really cheap to buy, because most stuck stoves, as we all know, are unreasonably expensive
@MarkYoungBushcraft2 жыл бұрын
The made in USA is big for many people. I am not saying it is better than a Firebox (even some of them are made off-shore) but is is different and a bit cheaper in titanium. Thanks for commenting Jim
@hk3pdx Жыл бұрын
Gen2 vs Gen3, 2 water cups? Gen 3 is inverted Gen3?