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My kid (now 21) everyday asks me to send her an old song I loved as a teen, then she'll send me one she's into. We've been doing this for several years now. It's a mutually beneficial exchange. I keep the old shit alive, and she keeps me up to date on the new stuff.

I’m gen z (born 2002) and tbh I don’t think music has changed all that much but the way people consume it is. It all seems rather disposable and just something for people to have on in the background. No one really listens to full on albums anymore. Getting the sense that people don’t truly care about music as a concept.

Mary needs to have a side gig as a audio book narrator, she has a very soothing voice.

Video game sound tracks are how I found a lot of music. Twisted Metal introduced me to Rob Zombie, Test Drive showed me Fear Factory, Tony Hawk showed me a lot of punk and rock music, Einhander introduced me to electronic music. Movie sound tracks were also a huge deal I feel back in the day with Freddy vs Jason having a banger track list along with Resident Evil and House of Wax.

As a 16 year old: The only thing I can understand is the different value of music today. There’s just so much to listen to that it makes you skip a lot of things that might just need a little time. And as someone who loves writing music that is quite scary tbh

I try to stay away from the whole "It was better back then" but the loss of mystery and record stores are truly and deeply missed.

I get why Boomers feel the way they do. I'm Gen X and went through that, too. It's like your culture is being forgotten or eradicated and you want to stop that process. It's like someone is torching a historical monument that is precious to you. That's also why it's such a relief to older generations when they discover that some kids listen to "their" music after all. Edit: stronger wording to get the point across.

Every generation has had their great music and artists as well as their terrible ones. What I think is going on right now is there is just so much music out there, it is hard to shuffle thru it all to find the really good stuff.

I was born in 92 and I both miss the way things were when people listened to albums and I still appreciate the way music is now with streaming. A person considers themself a fan of an artist just because they like 1 song and never listen to anything else by that artist. I find that frustrating and annoying

I’m 23 and I think it’s almost impossible to group music now as a whole. People I meet that are older get upset that “rock/metal is dead” but don’t bother looking into newer bands and checking out their sounds. Punk music is going thru a damn renaissance rn, pop music is changing and always being experimented on, folk music is coming back and metal is also changing a lot.

the real best part is, even if you hate new music, old music doesnt go away... you can forever enjoy whatever you want

Solid video. I really liked her take. I think about this all the time. The quality of the majority of music is generally so much better than it used to be and there's so much of it. If anything, the punk rock came true. The masses control the music. There's thousands and thousands of songs uploaded and accessible at our finger tips every day. It's wild

I find "It's not for me" to be a very liberating way to think of things as I get older because I can acknowledge that whatever cultural trend doesn't resonate with me without needing to crap all over something other people enjoy. I think the attention span thing is a bit more complicated than just individual responsibility. There's a reason why nearly everyone's attention spans are decreasing simultaneously. Like you said, people would listen to albums all the way through on repeat not out of some bygone discipline but because there were way fewer things competing for attention.

It drives me nuts when people say “I don’t care who did it first, I just like Yadayada” I love digging into music and finding who influenced who, or what genre influenced another genre, or finding original recordings of modern classics. It’s just a fun hobby

I've been living in 2000-2010 music for years. Blink, pierce the veil, FOB, my chemical romance

Thanks to the Internet, people can easily discover artists online based on their interests and then congregate together in person. There is a micro-niche for everything. I’m all for it

People crave the feeling that they are part of something “underground” or at least that they are part of a core fan base from an artist’s hometown that knew about the artist before they “made it.” Up and coming music is so tic tok / insta driven now that it relies more on social media savvy than on the actual music and “hometown” support. Depending on who you ask that can be good or bad. People complain that all the top selling stuff sounds the same because it’s made by like the same 4 producers, but that’s always been the case more or less.

Becoming the old man that yells at the cloud is a rite of passage and in fact, a duty, that continues to stir the youth into their rebellion and self-discovery. If you've become the old man, you made it and you're just fueling the youth to keep doing what they do best until the cycle repeats for them. It's a necessity. Go ahead and graduate. If you're 30-40, it should be coming up fast. I personally enjoy ragging on TikTok and hating Spotify. It's just because I liked it better when older people didn't understand my music either but now I see they helped me find purpose. Now, when I wag the finger while simultaneously telling a non-binary fae kid to get off my lawn and stop listening to the Spotify and stop making TikTok dances on my porch, I'll know I am doing youth around the world a favor as they nonchalantly curse me out and a knowing that they are cool and I am not resonates deep within and the world is theirs for the taking.

I'm nearly 32 but I'm stuck listening to music from 1990-2010. That feeling of childhood nostalgia is too strong to defeat

I love Mary's work and your work and it's cool that you featured her here.

In 1999 I had a portable CD player hooked up through the cassette player in my car, and was blasting the soundtrack to Quake 2 everywhere I went. It was a fluke that I even found out that the game would play as a CD, but I still bang that OST every now and again.

One thing I do find strange about new music at least what my nieces and nephews (12-18 year-olds) listen to is how slow the music they listen to is. All these artists songs now a day are so dreamy and slow and meandering, compared to the stuff I listened to in the late 90's and early 00's.

The way of streaming music has broadened my listening experience like never before. I sure don't miss the old days. I still got so many physical records that turned out to suck because there was almost no other way of finding out wether I would like it or not than buying and listening to them. God, I am still discovering new music from back then which I missed out on. Streaming rules!

Glad to hear the Dead Milkmen reference, I used to listen to their records over and over again back in my college years... though it's surprising you say you didn't know how they looked like for years, since they had a band photo(s) on the back of every record. Though perhaps you were, *ehem*, sailing the seven seas?

I just got into listening to folk music from different countries around the world. Slavic Pagan music, mongolian throat singing, red army choir, old norse, western european folk etc. And in my personal opinion I will always think 1,000 year old music is better.

Born in the 60's and I love the new music. My gateway was Sabbath, Priest and Def Leppard then later Metallica. I like In this Moment, Poppy, Vol Beat, Chet Faker, Post Malone. All very creative. Today's music production is incredible. My Favorites of all time are Dead Can Dance Into the Labyrinth, Lacuna Coil, and Evanescence.

First MetalJesus, now Mary Spender. Finn truly is a man of culture. A gentleman and a scholar.

I am Gen Z and I was raised with 70s and 80s music.

I quite literally started my journey down the heavy music path because of Need for Speed: Most Wanted. Avenged Sevenfold, Early Bullet For My Valentine, Mastadon, shit like that, and I did the "What else sounds like this" and that was back in like 2008. It was like my Tony Hawk, since I never played those games.

Great video! Also I think it’s important to consider that regardless of how accurate the critique may be, I don’t think any popular artistic movement has ever stopped or changed course because of the complaints of the older generation. You can complain all you want but the kids will either ignore you or lean in to the things you don’t like just to spite you. That’s just how it’s always been.

The only thing worse than old man yelling at clouds is millenial man yelling at internet.

The worst thing about music now is how hard it is to sift through the garbage for a gem. The only intangible "reward " feeling I get is finally finding something great after digging through the chaff. Not as great as connecting to a whole album, but not unlike the music saving you from a sinkhole.

I just sold my record collection after 35+ years of collecting. It was like a death in the family!

Gen Z didn't kill music. They just don't make any of it. M Spender is a fair musician... but she makes the same John Mayer clone music as every other chick with an acoustic.

To be fair, the Dead Milkmen look exactly how I expected them to look.

speaking of Indonesia, India, Nepal, and those countries you mentioned, they do really be cooking up with the metal music scene.

I definitely try to enjoy new music and love it when younger people ask for music recommendations, also when they're clearly vibing to the playlist I have going. Both younger and older generations need to not limit themselves with mindsets of "new stuff sucks..." And "old stuff is awful"

I remember going to stores to read metal magazines was an event in itself for me lol. I also used to order CDs straight from the record labels over the phone 🤣

great vid as usual. music is definitely the most accessible its ever been and its excellent, another thing she said that is so true is how much easier it is to make music now, for example i'm 40 i started messing around with garage band this year mostly because i really got into lofi hip hop beats and keep in mind have never made any song in my life and dont know how to play any instruments, after watching seriously 1 youtube video on learning basic and fast music theory and few vids on how to use garageband, then following some beat creators tutorials i was able to make beats with the preset loops and sounds and eventually this year was able to make 2 original 4 minute long beats without just using loops i actually used the instruments and chords and shit like super basic chords but none the less imagine what a tech savy teenager whos already well used to all the technology we have can do in even just a month or even week.

Wisecrack did a piece that's adjacent a few months back called "Did content kill culture?"

Mary has a good channel, worth checking out especially for aspiring singer-songwriters.

I think it’s easy to say, “oh you just don’t give younger artists a chance”, or “Old man yells at cloud”. I think it’s easy to say that. I’m only 26 (I consider myself apart of the Millennial generation as I grew up with Blockbusters, VHS tapes, CD’s, and my first phone was a flip phone). But I’m always willing to give Post 2004 artists a chance, it’s just I mostly don’t like what I hear. I mainly listen to bands and artists from when I was a toddler and young child from 1996 to 2003. The biggest problem with music that I have today is the lack of variety, if you rewind the clock 22 years and there were a lot of different types of bands and artists getting In the PoP charts, and then there was MTV showing different types of bands and artists as well. A band like Limp Bizkit or Evanescence wouldn’t get in the PoP charts today. I think it’s also easy to say “oh there is plenty of good stuff today, you just have to find it”, but the thing is I shouldn’t have to. It should already be on the Radio, TV or mainstream.

Gen Z killed live shows. They all would rather record live concerts on their phones, rather than enjoy the experience.

A CD in 2003 was the equivalent of like $30 in today's money lolol

Gen Z is just getting started.

This is literally the plot of that woody allen movie "Midnight in Paris" but with literature, This guy travels in time to see his literature heroes, only to find his heroes talking about how the real heroes were from before, then he travels there, and THEY say their heroes were from before them.

Music became like tinder. So much choice and one "skip" button.

I think you did a terrific “video review” here where you both listened to Mary but also gave your own take and side points. One of the things I quite like about Mary Spender is her thoughtfulness. Where there are negatives or bad things about art, the music industry, or the creative process - she doesn’t hold back. I nod my head. And where she sees hope, she also calls that out. Negative or positive (eg the idea that someone in a different part of the world than the usual North America / Europe nexus will create some great art and be able to share it once connected to the internet!) - always with eloquence. I really enjoyed your more “grumpy” aspects too, so consider me just subscribed. I think if you and Mary ever did a collab it would be great. Like review a new or old artist together. Anyway - all the best for 2023!

While I think all of this stuff is correct, it is also painfully clear that pop music has become very homogenous and corporatized. In her video, I wrote a comment talking about how vapid the lyrics of modern (pop) music is and how so few of the top artists even write their own music anymore. I actually had people comment who had no idea what I was talking about. They all have professional hitmakers hired by the record companies who write their songs and the artist is chosen and marketed in a way to sell it based on a carefully crafted public image. You used to only find that with acts like Christina Aguilera, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, etc. Those songs sell, but most of them don't come from the heart and you can sense it. Whereas you hear something like Hurt by Trent Reznor. He literally lived that shit and you can feel it in your bones when you hear him sing it. Back in the day, it was easy to filter the wheat from the chaff. It is sooo much harder today. Each major music revolution started with artists who did something different and most of them did what they did in an attempt to push boundaries of traditionally accepted values. Modern pop music however went backwards. People like Justin Bieber popularized the social media kid being turned into a star by a successful artist. While we could say that happened with someone like Eminem with Dr Dre, Eminem carved his own path. Justin largely let the record company use his image as a puppet to make some of the most generic, empty songs ever produced. Tweens gobble up that fakeness for some reason.

I got introduced to Motorhead through Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2, where Ace of Spades played regularly! Also Mary is pretty good musician too, she did the metal cover of Sultans of Swing with Leo on Frogleap Studios.

The fact that music is becoming disposable and that it's unlikely somebody will be able to make a living selling records lends credence to the theory that new music sucks. This could potentially be why the quality of music will change. Obviously it's going to have some impact. There's no reason to think it will necessarily be a good one. It's true that older generations will always think new music sucks, but it's also possible that new music really does suck. There's a reason that even young people are streaming boomer era music. It's possible that the song writing was better and so that music will last while what's being produced now won't.

I got into atmospheric drum and bass thru Unreal Tournament so yes, I classify as one of those people who discovered music through videogames.

Previous generation hate has always been a thing. I had to lie to my parents and say I was studying or spending the night at a friends house to be able to go to hardcore shows. Had to keep my combat boots and leather at a friends house. Good times. Cheers

I'm going to be the old, cranky Boomer here. I think that music, as a whole, is in fact getting far worse, and I can substantiate this claim. I remember a couple of years ago when my University did a concert, showcasing the music of each decade from the 1950s until now. It started out with big band jazz, which was incredibly complex. Then, with the 1980s pop synth, it still had a melody in harmony, but just maintained the same basic chord progression throughout. By the 2000s we had a Taio Cruz song that had 0 instruments played by an actual human. For the 2010s, they had a rap song that could pretty much be described as just spoken word over a basic beat - literally no melody or harmony whatsoever. So, it wasn't a comparison of "bad music now versus good music back then", like many defenders of new music like to claim. It was a representation of the most popular music of each decade. You also have studies showing that over time, lyrics have gotten a lot dumber and more repetitive - from what I can remember, the average pop song is now at the reading comprehension level of a kindergartener. So, why does society hate new music when it comes out but then loves it later? Well, I have a theory. I think that our bar for passable music is simply getting lower and lower. For example, I disliked a lot of 2010s pop when I was a teenager, but now many of those same songs sound amazing to me, simply in comparison to what we have now. So, I think a very strong case can be made that music is becoming far less complex, with less complex structures, dumber and more repetitive lyrics, and less complex melodies or harmonies (or even none at all). I think that what we have nowadays, especially the example of 2010's rap music that I alluded to in my second paragraph, is just such a sad, cynical approach to music. It's sad to see how music is a world of near infinite possibilities, and we have artists who seem like they're trying to set the bar as low as possible for what we might consider to be called "music".

I’m a Gen Xer born in the late 70s and I really don’t like most of the popular music that I hear today. Then again, I’ve never liked most of the popular music that I heard even in the 80s and 90s. Still, something just seems different now. The music and the culture more broadly just seems a lot more hollow and empty. I say this as someone who finds great music ranging from jazz and blues from the early 20th century, to mind blowing jazz albums released in the 50s, to 50s rhythm and blues and rock and roll, to 60s rock and pop, to 70s funk, soul, punk and reggae, to 80s hip hop, pop and dance music, to 90s rock and hip hop and even some prefab pop songs that I really like. The same is true heading into the early 2000s. So, it’s not just a matter of nostalgia. Much of the music that I listen to came out before I was born and even the newer stuff that listen to now I didn’t listen to growing up. Admittedly, I don’t dig into music like I did in my 20s and early 30s, so there may be some stuff being made that’s really good, but I’ve given the things that I’ve heard an honest listen, and most of it just seems hollow and empty, completely devoid of meaning and inspiration.

Idk man I think it's equally as cringe for younger generations to call older generations music cringe also. I've heard it plenty of times where someone whines on comments that "anyone who likes their older music is a boomer and their new stuff is so much better." Like ok man yall weren't around in their height and just blanket anyone who enjoys their older stuff.

Couple of stand-out generation differences in music I've had: - Girl tells me she loves Radiohead. I say yeah, OK Computer is such a great album. She says oh I don't know I've never heard that one. She's only heard albums from Hail To The Thief forward. I'm thinking, how do you even think Radiohead's great when they're clearly on the declinr, imagine if you heard OK Computer it would blow your mind! But then again, maybe it means something so different to you from me that we're essentially talking about different bands. - Guy tells me he's getting into Frank Zappa. I'm like great! What albums do you like? He says I don't knoe about that, I never listen to whole albums really, just like songs on a playlist. I don't think I could even continue the conversation just by being flabberghasted. So much of my music experience, and all my friends, and my gen-x brother's, and my parents, were at least as much about albums as they were any singles, to where I take for granted that it's the natural state. But here's people now who don't think that way at all.

As a Bri’ish “person” I can confirm she is an imposter for saying zee and not zed, but a lot of people say “aych” and not “haych” lol

The more i watch Finns content, the more i understand how dull and bland you have to be not see his sarcastic self aware witt. Also the guy is genuine and hard worker to be honest. These videos have always great insight along with thoughtfully crafted deep dives. Great find

3 big changes are legit bad though. 1) Music availability through streaming has made music something for the background and disposable. 2) Music being a digital commodity means people mostly experience music alone, instead of socially with others like in the past. That's not healthy... 3) Music production being more accesible than ever means people are moving from being consumers to producers. Once you produce music, you don't listen to other's music as much or with as much enthusiasm. From personal experience, I'm much more focused interested in my music than other's, even the stuff I group up with. it's really weird...

Music that had soul or passion is what used to make an impact on the world at large. New artist just want the bag and the clout(for the majority anyways). Real music is being played in underground bars to a crowd of 15-20 people, with no intentions of ever jumping on tiktok.

I think that the bigger issue is a broader absence of meaning. I think that’s why music sucks, but it’s not just music. It’s popular culture in general now.

This is exactly why (when done well) sampling can be so cool. Think of it like finding an easter egg in a game. When you recognize or figure out where a sample comes from, it not only gives you insight into who or what influenced the artist who sampled it, it just gives you more music to listen to. Perfect example, the guitar sample on Kendrick's Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst is what got me into Grant Green's music.

Im gen z and prefer Nickelback over anything that is played on the popular mainstream radio these days. I dont care about what the numbers say is good my ear drums bleed when I hear rap and pop and forgive me but country died with Johnny Cash. Now dont get me wrong I still listen to older 40s -80s music as well as the occasional 90s- early 2000s rap song But Nickelback is the only Band I have heard where I can honestly say that every album and song they have ever made has yet to disappoint me.

I think there's a lot of record labels getting in the way and pushing a lot of the same sound which makes it hard to delineate artists.

My favorite CD in the late 90s was MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries and Jeehun Hwang's incredible soundtrack

New music sucks because most music sucks. People just remember mostly the good ones because the bad ones are usually forgettable.

I'm a millennial and through all my years one of my biggest hobbies have been to find new bands/artists, and I can say that Gen ZEDs music is damn impressive most of the time

Good video. What the world needs is a new musical revolution to change the way people think and feel and not turn into mindless numb robots. Also The Twilight Zone is still unrivaled in its amazing story telling and eeriness. Some get close but not quite. Nothing is better or worse just different.

Totally agree with both you. Every generation has a different way of listening to music and that leads to new evolving music. I am 31 and I am enjoying the great variety I can choose from today in seconds. But I also love finding an Artist/Band and discovering an Album and then the next and so on, if it's catching me. I even began to collect Vinyls, sitting down and reading through the lyrics and escape into music, what I often did with CDs when I was a teenager. But also streaming a lot of music and playlists. I think there are always music people and people that just need some background sound and that's okay.❤️

2:50 She's from Bristol, which makes her close enough to a wurzel that you should be grateful you can understand her speech. Most people around there sound a bit like the farmer with the sea mine from Hot Fuzz.

They hate us cause they ain't us. It's really insane how critical somebody can be over another person's taste in music. Get over yourself, it's not the "good ole days" anymore. Great vid as always Finn!

I was born in 2000 and was raised by my pa into music and playing music is my passion, he’s influenced me greatly on the Beatles, The Who,Jimi Hendrix, most of the 60s rock stuff.. then later I remember I started listening to alternative music stations in the mid 2010s and got really into bands like Tame Impala,Cage The Elephant ,vampire weekend, Arctic Monkeys,Foster the People stuff like that and then that lead me to get into the 90s grunge/alternative stuff, Nirvana, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Rage Against The Machine, and that was a big phase through most of high school.. then that lead me even deep into old 80s punk, and even some surf punk, I think a really underrated band is Wavves, but that’s just my opinion.. but I think now with the world of pop and rap mixed with all of what I mentioned, it’s really just a clusterfuck these days about what to start out on with talking about music with someone.

As a 58 year old german i also thought it is Gen ZEDD .. but to my surprise on every video i saw so far they say Gen ZEE, so maybe Mary also just accepted that and used the most common version. Just as we non english speaker must also except the way how you for example just don't speek vocals at the end of a name and SimonE becomes Cimoohn

I think less has changed than people realize. Music doesn’t hit the same as when we were kids because we have less moments where music just deeply connects with us since we are emotionally more hardened and it takes more for music to feel like it used to. It’s just as good, we just don’t feel music like we used to.

I actually like alot of the newer music. The 2020s remind me of the 80s and 00s where it's just everybody is having fun and not taking things too seriously. 90s and 2010s were very it's "uncool to be cool" atleast that's how the grunge scene thought and the hipsters thought. But the fact that pop punk is back and alot of my favorite 00s band when I was a teen are coming back with great music.

3:15 I think this is still very much true for the newer generation tho... According to the definition, I'm a Gen Z... I still for the majority of music that I listened to don't know what the band/group/artist looks like (unless I watch their music video or something)... A few examples: Pantera, Blink-182, Rise Against, Atreyu, Bon Jovi, Bowling for Soup, Cradle of Filth, Siksa Kubur, Satanic Warmaster, Catamenia, The Smashing Pumpkins other than Billy, TOOL other than the singer, Muse other than the singer, Nirvana other than Kurt, Aimer, FLOW, ChouCho, Duca, Girls Dead Monster, the real life Houkago Tea Time, the real life μ's, the real life BanG Dream!'s bands, Kana Boon, supercell, Stellar, Girls' Generation, Paganini, Debussy, Tchaikovsky, Vivaldi, etc...

"Old man yells at clouds"

British people don't say haitch. I mean, some do, but we try and burn them as fast as possible when we discover them.

I agree with a lot of this. My only complain is, i dont want albums to go away. Songs are great, but there is nothing better than a good, front-to-back cohesive album. The new Lorna Shore album is a good example to me, the last 3 songs especially line up so perfectly.

Bro, DS is later millennials most gen z never had a ds.

Speaking of Black Dahlia Murder, can't wait to see them come back on tour with Brian on vox.

i was born in 2008, i listen to new music, and I also used to listen to old music, I like both, but I like to be a fan of new bands rather than bands that were popular for decades, to feel the feeling of a band being at their best era

I really appreciate you making this video for us. Growing up in a black family, it was definitely interesting to put it lightly, to develop my own music taste of Rock, Metal, etc, and to have my family witness it, as most of them listen to rap, r&b, jazz, soul music, etc. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. I think I just wanted to be different from my family all while discovering a music genre that I absolutely love. They didn't see my taste eye to eye til later on when they just accepted it, for which I'm thankful for. In high school, I did go through that phase of, "Metal is the only good genre, everything else sucks" elitist mentality, but after high school, and after playing so many iconic video games with great music that weren't even metal, I started to broaden my music taste, and now here we are, I still go to metal shows, but I can pretty much listen to most genres today and enjoy them, even the wacky stuff from gen z its veery off the wall and interesting. It reminds me of when Attack Attack first came out and they got so much shit but we many modern bands still look back to them today for inspiration..

That's why you have Anjunadeep and melodic house & techno world.

I remember getting into jazz because I loved the soundtracks to: mafia, Sim city 3000, Larry 7, Jack Orlando

Could it have something to do with the way music is distributed "these days"? With the emergence of KZfaq, Spotify, Pandora, Amazon Music, Apple, etc... musical offerings feel much more formulaic as they're catering to consumers who either only consume exclusively in small bites (aka singles) or have attentions pans that have been molded by endless jump cuts. Don't get me wrong - the music single formula has been a "thing" for a very long time, but for most of that time, technology and distribution was less able to cater to it exclusively. It has nothing to do with the generation, but rather, the technology and means of distribution that was available then and is available now.

New artists or music doesnt have longevity anymore. Music isnt the same anymore as it once was as far as legendary status artists. No one is gonna be going to a Bilie Eilish concert when shes 40.

I think the best example of Gen Z having a positive effect on music is them making an obscure indie song from 2011 that no one had ever heard of, This Side Of Paradise by Coyote Theory, one of the biggest rock songs of 2022.

Really thoughtful analysis by this lady

Do you remember going out to those old rustic pre 1900s this is what it was like in the 1800s amusement park experiences in grade school high school middle school? We got to go and make our own butter and you figure out how easy you have it by comparison to what they did and it gives you a respect for what you have? Well I think every millennial should have to make their own mixtape, from vinyl or CD to cassette. I remember doing that for the first time in the early 90s. Then in 1998 I was sophomore; an the only kid in high school that knew that a CD burner was a thing and was crazy enough to spend the $500 of my savings on getting one and not just the first generation that took 2-3hr with verification of data, 1 to 1 copy otherwise you're going to get those cracks pops when the laser goes over the improperly written data so back then you verified everything. So I saved for when "gen"2X speed came out 300KB/s oh yeah, yeah I know that's dog s*** slow nowadays we have Internet faster than that now but back then that was blazing fast and it didn't matter because you can make your own CDs! Back then though write protection encryption hadn't been invented yet for optical data. Essentially the world became your oyster as far as digital media was concerned nothing cost anything but time and effort. Any video game any movie any pirated material any Napster MP3 file, that 500 bucks basically paid for itself in the first month. It was another three or five years before I saw other people getting on the bandwagon. After that I started buying 100 pack of overburn CDs with 900MB storage space. 2hr of music vs the standard 90min or a higher quality version of a movie you ripped. I found myself real popular in high school and got very good at making mix CDs for myself and Friends and girls. And the way that they looked at me when I gave them their own custom made CD with the tracks that they wanted. It was pure ecstatic Joy from them. They treated those CDs better than they treated their store-bought ones. Got to the point where I started had to charge for the CDs just to reduce how many people asking me. But I tried to help the poor kids the most. Back then it was very hard to get music that you owned due to the prohibitive cost of buying CDs. So the kids I couldn't just spend their parents money buying their favorite album it was a big deal it honestly made a positive good change and how they saw themselves and could play and listen to the same CDs of friends that did. Point is I think children should be taught these older technologies briefly just so they understand where we came from and where we're going. I mean how sad is it when a child from now can't even boot a NES cartridge much less plug it into the TV. 🤧 And to be a geek back then was actually like a badge of honor like you're the outcast or the emo guy 🤣😎. Still a complete dork and loser but you knew that you could see something that other people just couldn't comprehend or realize that computers were truly going to change everything and to get on to them early was a major step up. Can you imagine running the computer nowadays with only one single CPU core. But for a very long time that was the norm. Listen to me just rattling on all you have a good day and thanks for reading. From a Gen Xer.

people forget every era of music movies art etc has a shit ton of "noise" and only remember the best stuff. When you're actually living in it, there's tons and tons of mediocre, fine, okay, art of all types and there's stuff that stands the test of time. When ppl say "i miss 70s music, or 80s" or whatever. They're only thinking of the best of the best. There's TONS of terrible shit haha. its the same now as always. present time we're all trying to sift through and find the good stuff. Time is a great filter in letting the best of the best rise to the surface.

I'm 25 and between 2012-2018, i even saw the quality go down. I started to notice more and more similarities between genres even artist were the same. Same tone, same beat, same high hat, same snare. TO be honest people can care less what I have to say. I grew in te 2000s, music had more character and variety back then if you could make a hit and made money thats all that mattered. Now you have to be between the lines, follow the rules, have the same opinions and beliefs, send the message. Being Z i want more variety and more talent. If people skip songs so easily its because songs are extremely predictable especially since there all mostly the same song done differently.

I'm Gen Z and, only this time, I can agree with the boomers who complain about them. Gen Z is an absolutely horrendous generation as an aggregate.

I love you Finn this is a great topic but I can’t her voice! Thank you for what you do you said you read every comment just wanted to say you got me super interested in black metal. Loved the death core video have you done a tuff x core? Or even a Boston tuff guy video. OBW, black my heart the whole fsu, byd

In the 90’s I had so many Cassette Tapes I trade with friends and family record them on tape make mix tapes. When was a kid we’ll go to the park with a boom box and play basketball, work on our mini bikes, we get golf ball and see how we could drive them. I was doing odd jobs babysitting, mowing grass, cleaning gutters, painting houses, shoveling snow, paper route, before I got at job at 14 plus did a lot of trades. Fixing a lot of things my dad and my grandfather were into music, my bother and I get a lot of electronic. My father a bargain hunter would go to sales and come back with speaker and stereo equipment. all the time. I remember buy a set of speaker for $20. The dollar store right down the block we would get a block of tapes for 1.00. 😅 not mention the comic book store ride our bikes there and go across street to the DQ. Skate breading in the parking lot with the boom box Blaring anthrax. Taking the bus to the city to get some metal shirts and more skateboarding. Good times!

I remember back when TBDM was seen as a poser band in the early to mid 2000s. Funny how times change.

I used to sit on the floor as a kid and go through my Pop's old albums, listening to the ones that peaked my interest. He was the first person I shaped my ideas about music from. I didn't like 90% of his music, but I got hooked on the sound, the melody, the harmonies, and the beat. From The Band, to the Bee Gees, to Cream, to The Bill Gaither Trio; there was a huge assortment of genres of music to explore. We have completely different tastes, but I think he cut me slack on mine because his tastes were all over the map as well. I actually appreciate him for that.

If you don't know what the band looks like then only the music actually matters