GEN2 to GEN 3 Development Update

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It's been a few months since I made a video about making a trade between GEN2 and GEN3. Since then I've been hard at work to make it a lot more stable. In this video we'll talk more about the current issues I'm facing and some frequently asked questions.
There are a few things that aren’t mentioned in the video. So I decided to mention them here.
Stat Experience to EVs
In GEN2 there is no limit to stat experience. When converting to GEN3 it would then be possible to go over the allowed maximum of 510 EVs. In the software I programmed that all EVs will be lowered until they are less or equal to the allowed maximum.
Are these Pokémon Legit?
It depends. When transferring to Pokémon Home it mostly depends on if the Pokémon has a legal move set. Our Fissure Machamp in this video for example was not allowed into Pokémon Bank. Everyone else is accepted without any problems. But if you for example would check these Pokémon in PKHeX then these Pokémon would not be considered legit, mostly because of the ribbon I decided to give to them. To make them more legal it would be best to not give them the ribbon and to try and find a PID that would match the IVs, but this is low priority in my eyes.
0:00 Introduction
0:13 Hardware
0:43 Synchronization Issues
3:34 Pokémon Conversion: GEN2 to GEN3
4:04 Pokémon Conversion: GEN3 to GEN2
4:58 Transfer to Pokémon Home
5:57 Sale
6:30 Direct Communication with GEN2

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@carbonatedfoxjuice 2 жыл бұрын

absolutely insane to be seeing this process happen in real time, you're making the impossible possible and it's amazing to watch

@jeffreystone8974 2 жыл бұрын

Right? 11-year-old me would pee his pants at the idea of bringing his Vaporeon onto the GBA

@isheamongus811 2 жыл бұрын

I gotta an idea one game starts sending data before tho other one. Second have simulated unplugged cable until the right time. The only con is delay

@KingLarbear Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreystone8974 I'm 29 and I would pee in my pants too right now

@KingLarbear Жыл бұрын

This will give pokemon gen 1 and 2 more relevance and cause their value to go up for those who want to sell and it Always feels weird that they all touch except those two sets. I hope they never break the chain because it kill pokemon. To not be able to take my team with me is whack

@gamelover3100 Жыл бұрын

Is it done yet

@Volgotha 2 жыл бұрын

I will get one of these of SECOND they're for sale. You are going to save my childhood memories from their prison in those cartridges. You're a hero.

@RockerXt29 Жыл бұрын

has he ever put them up for sale?

@KingLarbear Жыл бұрын

@@RockerXt29 not yet, because he stated that before he releases them he wants the software to be polished and he wants a plug and play. He wants it to be as simple as putting in a link cable and all the magic happens in the background.

@RockerXt29 Жыл бұрын

@@KingLarbear any word on if and/or when? Id buy one so fast.

@TheFernandinho Жыл бұрын

@@RockerXt29 no date yet but he is still working on It, he said on a newer video that there is developments regarding multiboot

@justaperson4656 Жыл бұрын

Same here

@LegendBegins 2 жыл бұрын

Super glad to see you’re still working on this. Can’t wait to see how it develops. Using a Ditto to handle gen 3 Pokémon is a brilliant fix.

@JACKHARRINGTON 2 жыл бұрын

I would have made the device read what data the gen 3 game is sending and cancel the trade whenever it detects a gen 3 pokemon.

@Goppier 2 жыл бұрын

I forgot to mention that the trade is cancelled if they are selected to trade, so you can't actually send them to GEN2. I can't cancel the trade earlier, because I don't know what Pokémon the GEN3 games have

@RobotnikPlays 2 жыл бұрын

@@Goppier cant you detect based on Dex ID (or even name lookup?)

@nousukas 2 жыл бұрын

Would make even more sense to make it a smeargle, but it really doesn't matter.

@KingLarbear Жыл бұрын

@@nousukas how so

@ShankMods Жыл бұрын

This is really awesome. I'd love to buy/make one of these some day. Attaining communication on a link cable between a system in GBA mode and a system in GBC is something I never would have guessed would be possible. That's pretty wild. I could see this opening the door to lots of capabilities for inter-system communication for GBA ROM hacks. I'm so looking forward to seeing where this project goes. So much potential!

@marioluigi27 Жыл бұрын

Holy fuck its shank

@NeoAquaKun 2 жыл бұрын

I legit have never been as excited for something, as I am for this. The idea that Pokemon stuck in 20+yo save files can finally get all the way up on the Switch makes me happy. I can't wait to do the Ribbon Master challenge with an Eevee caught in Pokemon Red. I genuinely cannot wait for this to be available to buy.

@-justo- 2 жыл бұрын

they’ve been able to with the virtual console 3ds games my guy

@Gardivanyth 2 жыл бұрын

@@-justo- That's not what they meant. This device is the first time direct communication between gen 2 and gen 3 is possible. Pokemon caught in gen 1 and 2 cartridges were essentially trapped in the past. The Virtual Console games don't directly solve this issue, you would need to modify save data to essentially flash your cartridge's save onto your 3DS - something I doubt most players would want to bother with. More importantly, there's no way for these Gen 1-2 Pokemon to visit the generations in between - they're forced to go directly to 7. For Neo, this is important because they want a Ribbon Master Eevee from gen 1; they need to be able to access gens 3-6 to get all those ribbons.

@-justo- 2 жыл бұрын

@@Gardivanyth ahhhhhh i gotcha

@zerolinkyoshi 2 жыл бұрын

If you don’t want to wait you could use Metropolis’ Conversion Utility. It doesn’t do real time conversion on real hardware, but it’s a PC software that converts a Pokemon from the Gen I/II format to the Gen III format by copying it from a Gen I/II save file and putting it in a Gen III save file.

@zerolinkyoshi 2 жыл бұрын

@@Unholyxkight The PC software referenced in my comment functions the same way as the code on the chip in Goppier's device. The device "modifies" the save data in the same way. The only difference is that Goppier's device is just buying a single piece of hardware rather than two, and that it requires a two-way trade rather than a one-way transfer. There's no difference in legitimacy between using unofficial software on a PC vs using unofficial software (firmware?) on a custom PCB. Furthermore, OP and other commenters in the thread had nothing to say about "legitimacy," and were more concerned with the capability to get Pokemon from Gen II -> III. via: "The idea that Pokemon stuck in 20+yo save files can finally get all the way up on the Switch makes me happy." Goppier's device is very impressive and his videos breaking down the trade process are very well researched and well made, but acting like existing methods are somehow less legitimate and are irrelevant to OP just because they're not on dedicated hardware is an insult to the years of effort members of the community put in to researching the Gen I/II and III data structures and developing tools to do this previously.

@joaomarcellosouza4322 2 жыл бұрын

Man, you are a legend! Solving one of the biggest issues of the pokemon franchise, after decades of agony... I can't describe how happy I am by watching the development of this project, doing all this in an accurately way... I can't wait to get a copy of the final product! Oh, and I must say that I found the Ditto thing outstanding! That was a genius catch!

@AbsolBlogsPokemon 2 жыл бұрын

Really cool to see how you've been refining this even more!!! Super cool to see how you have those 2 separate modes to toggle between stat preservation and Pokemon preservation. Out of curiosity, since only Unown I and V are possible to be shiny in Gen II due to a quirk in the DVs, does trading, for example, a shiny Unown A from Fire Red to Gen II make it just a normal Unown A in Gen II, or do you have a way to make it show up as a shiny A?

@Goppier 2 жыл бұрын

My code will first make it a Unown A and afterwards try to make it shiny. However like you mentioned, it is only possible to get either I or V shiny in GEN2. So they will become either of those letters in the end

@AbsolBlogsPokemon 2 жыл бұрын

@@Goppier makes sense! Thanks for the answer, and keep up the great work

@machine1685 Жыл бұрын

As someone who is currently working on a Master DeX and want to transfer the prize Pokemon from the Stadium games to current hardware, I'm so glad I found this project.

@ComicBooksvsTheWorld 2 жыл бұрын

5:59 Hey, that’s me! Seriously though, super excited to see the progress you’ve made. Keep it up! 👍

@Kleowi 2 жыл бұрын

This is all compatible with Pokemon Home because in terms of legality Pokemon Home already has the necessary flags and checks for a Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 to transfer to Gen 8 and beyond curtesy of the Virtual Console, but PKHeX will quickly catch any inconsistency they might have. Then again PKHeX has false positives for old NYPC Pokemon for Gen 3 so our milleage may vary. The crux of the matter is the legality of those pokemon obtaining moves not allowed in the current gen, as well as Ribbons and what not. From a legality standpoint, Home doesn't care much for Ribbons, but legitimacy wise a Gen 2 pokemon has no business owning Gen 3 ribbons. And for using those Pokemon competitively (which you shouldn't) making them Battle Ready in Gen 8 purges any Legacy moves they might have that could give them an advantage, so it all balances out.

@keiyakins 2 жыл бұрын

They don't have the VC origin mark though, so moves that weren't learnable in 3-6 will get stuck in 5.

@dfury4874 Жыл бұрын

Gen 2 doesn't have ribbons. They would just be deleted when transfered.

@GILLIGFAN 11 ай бұрын

@@dfury4874 Read closer They said “A GEN 2 mon having GEN 3 Ribbons” Meaning it didn’t have ribbons to start but parts of their comment and explanation are admittedly flawed or at least worded wrong

@GILLIGFAN 11 ай бұрын

@kleowi I can’t speak much on Home liking or disliking Ribbons BUT Your sentence about a GEN 2 mon having no business with GEN 3 Ribbons falls apart somewhat if there’s any ribbons those mons could earn after the trading had occurred Purging of moves though yes could and should balance or solve some issues though I think the crux and basis of this device and video series as well as similar projects and notions is that many players with old games/carts would simply be happy enough to to get their old teams/mons Into the Switch Era where they have a much better chance at being preserved. There’s actually a few pretty touching sentimental nostalgic stories out there from folks with GEN 1 , 2, 3 and 4 save files desperate to get their old mons into a more modern setting for safe keeping and the memories

@dfury4874 11 ай бұрын

@@GILLIGFAN ah, i understand now. thank you for the clarification.

@konman10000 Жыл бұрын

This is legitimately a once in a lifetime project and experience. I'm honored I get to be a long for the ride. Thank you so much for what you're doing and especially for sharing it with the community like this!

@nikkaz1950 2 жыл бұрын

The amount of work put into this is amazing. Its a task that I dont think anyone thought would be possible to complete and yet you have not only done it but IMPROVED it. Round of applause to you. Cant wait to see the finished results and if you ever find workarounds to other problems like lets go not being able to trade with the rest of generation 7

@jorgen_ak 2 жыл бұрын

Eyyy can't wait dude! Love how this project is coming along. Rip my dreams of a no guard machamp with fissure though

@off-the-grounder568 Жыл бұрын

You could still manage it in Gens 3, 4, and 5, though. Take on Colo and XD’s postgames, Battle Revolution, the PWT, and all battle facilities with it!

@SYIBOI 2 жыл бұрын

Got my eye on this, it's never been so exciting to be a classic pokemon fan! The fact such a device even exists at all is thrilling and I know as soon as you announce you're selling them I'm gonna drop everything and get at least one.

@BuiRoyValdez 7 ай бұрын

I'll not deny, I keep coming back here to see if there is ever progress on it. I seriously hope to see more from this. There's so much that can come from this. Sure, the 3ds virtual console allows the trades on up to bank, but personally? This method is still more fun to me in its ways.

@hisaceinthehole3426 4 ай бұрын

With or without the 3d games, this is a game changer

@MrStompingshadow 2 ай бұрын

This dude sadly passed away

@hisaceinthehole3426 2 ай бұрын

@@MrStompingshadow nice troll, ssahole.

@hisaceinthehole3426 2 ай бұрын

@@MrStompingshadow nice troll

@MrStompingshadow 2 ай бұрын

@@hisaceinthehole3426 look it up

@nayiru5877 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing! Unfortunately, It's too late to save my childhood friends, the cartridge battery died about 10 years ago. Wish they had never made that limitation, but I'm so glad you're developing this for those who still have them.

@toros7983 7 ай бұрын

Darn hope this becomes available to the purchase soon, with bank potentially closing whenever they decide to pull the plug on it, time is running out.

@cyanprince00 6 ай бұрын

U just can't download it now right? But the service is still online, to use for free

@toros7983 6 ай бұрын

@@cyanprince00 Yep, I have it and used it 2 weeks ago actually. BUT they put out a warning a month or 2 ago that bank would be closing permanently at some point so they recommend you transfer what you have in bank asap. I literally just got a gameboy sp new shell and screen to play and transfer too so sad af.

@hisaceinthehole3426 4 ай бұрын

@@toros7983 its kinda a bummer. Does that mean transferring between New gen poke games will be impossible? Or are they quitting soon? I dont understand their logic honestly.

@MaxxTheLycanroc 2 жыл бұрын

The moment this comes out to the public I will be buying this, I honestly can't believe how awesome it is to see this change in what we thought was impossible happen in real time

@starlight_garden Жыл бұрын

Timestamps/suggested chapters 0:00 Intro 0:13 Hardware 0:43 Synchronization 3:34 Pokémon Conversion: GEN2 to GEN3 4:04 Pokémon Conversion: GEN3 to GEN2 4:58 Transfer to Pokémon Home 5:57 Sale 6:30 Direct Communication with GEN2 6:59 Outro

@Goppier Жыл бұрын

I'll add chapters soon, thanks for the suggestions

@jeffreystone8974 2 жыл бұрын

When this becomes a commercially available product, I wonder if it's going to impact competitive Pokemon at all? Probably not VGC, but maybe the rules on Smogon and Showdown because it's technically possible? I'm excited to see what happens!

@marcelosandoval4206 Жыл бұрын

Nah, the only good thing that isn't in the future games is Fissure... And some moves that aren't competitive... And Fissure together with Sheer Cold and their similar from other types are banned from oficial tournaments, because if for some reason your move lands it will one hit KO everything except Sturdy and Focus Slash... Also they aren't reliable for that lack of accuracy... I don't think the best players will take this risky move

@markeire3028 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff. I've never seen any other explanations of the protocols of the trades and hardware requirements. You make it really easy to follow along. Amazing work

@dratinithedagon7508 2 жыл бұрын

This clearly had a ton of work put into it. I'm definitely gonna get one once they become available.

@eliseosterbrink8000 2 жыл бұрын

Aaaah this is all so cool! It's amazing seeing you go through all of this and explain how everything works- thank you for the time and effort that you're putting in to this project! :)

@thecool887 2 жыл бұрын

would love to see a bi-weekly (every two weeks) update to be honest, i'm really curious about your progress and you explain everything very well ^^

@Kellicing 2 жыл бұрын

This is super cool, makes me wish I had some of the older games so I could play through them myself. The tech here is fascinating, keep up the good work!

@649eranimates 2 жыл бұрын

This is the coolest thing ever I’ve always wondered if it was even possible and now it is! Huge respect for you

@kyrum1234 2 жыл бұрын

this concept was so cool and it was already awesome that you figured it out to the extent you did, so excited to see how far it goes!

@ped1232 2 жыл бұрын

Came across you randomly a few videos back. Insane what you do and I literally can’t wait to see more updates for this. Genuinely will be one of the first to buy one if and when these are ever available.

@Blazico 2 жыл бұрын

I'm really excited to see how you will let the two systems communicate!

@_Teej_264 2 жыл бұрын

So awesome to see this developing. And I absolutely love seeing your logo on that custom hardware!

@ALIPSN 2 жыл бұрын

Again, insane work. I cannot wait for the next video and the whole progress of this thing. Kudos to you man.

@hermitwsevencanaries730 2 жыл бұрын

With this update vid I’m really hoping you get more subscribers & more support. Thank you for giving this a go.

@jesskonye6476 2 жыл бұрын

Why is this more exciting than Nintendo direct. I was literally at the edge of my seat the whole video

@decino 2 жыл бұрын

WAKE UP BABE NEW GOPPIER VIDEO

@maxalmonte14 9 ай бұрын

I'm counting the days until this is released to the public!

@arejaybee 2 жыл бұрын

This is such an awesome project! Good luck on developing it further! Really excited to see this go on sale down the line :)

@pircachupi4771 2 жыл бұрын

Found your channel not too long ago and binged all of your videos, they're fantastic! It's so cool to not only learn about the inner workings of these old games and how they communicate, but to see your solutions for fixing an issue that has always stuck out in the pokemon series. I'm always excited to see more!

@Hypernova99 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine the nightmare of cross gen battling

@sleepydudespillow 2 жыл бұрын

You are amazing at making this! I wish you the best of luck during this project and future projects, you have truly made a huge impact on the Pokemon community that will be remembered for a long time, keep up the good work.

@shadow306k 2 жыл бұрын

This is definitely one of the coolest Pokémon projects I've seen come randomly on my feed in KZfaq, and I am 100% ready to see where this goes in the future, and hopefully own one. The idea of using multi-boot to transfer Pokémon has the same feel of using DS Download play to transfer which I think is even cooler!

@AwesomeHairo 2 жыл бұрын

5:52 This confirms, no matter what, that normal abilities Machamp with Fissure cannot be transferred, no matter what.

@T8UFI 2 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic work well done! I hope you keep working on this, would love to get one of these eventually!

@ElianWailmer0323 2 жыл бұрын

This is AWESOME🙂 Keep up the great work; I'm looking forward to future updates😁👍

@wiitubeking 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing contributions to the conservation of history! Would like to see if I could possibly get in touch with you when you're available as we're exploring the possibility of trading mons from gen 3 over wifi using a device similar to yours. I think that you may have some information that could prove useful! Thank you for all your work and dedication!

@Goppier 2 жыл бұрын

That's cool! I've also had the idea of doing that sometime! Currently busy with some other big projects right now, but once those finish up I would love to look into this as well

@yoshiwoollyworld 2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean wifi trades in gen 3?

@wiitubeking 2 жыл бұрын

@@yoshiwoollyworld Yes, would also love to look into using the same device to send/receive mystery gift via wifi along with trade/battle for that full experience. It's a bit ambitious, but certainly not impossible.

@OPEK. Жыл бұрын

@@wiitubeking mystery gifts have there own corresponding flags in game. If you somehow accomplished it then viewed the Pokémon on PKHex it would say “Has the mystery gift data been contributed?”

@wiitubeking Жыл бұрын

@@OPEK. Official Wonder Card data exists to set off the flags legitimately when receiving a gift from the guy in pokecenter, it should be able to be sent and treated like a legit event as long as the WC3 data is present.

@chipsdonut1 2 жыл бұрын

You sir are going to become rich. I will 100% buy this day 1! Everyone have that notification bell on cause as soon as its out its gonna sell super fast.

@mohimbrood5787 2 жыл бұрын

Good advice

@functional200 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for continuing to work on this!

@AntonZero 2 жыл бұрын

I'm pumped to see this! Followed, subscribed, ding the bell... Everything! I wanna be there when the final version launches!

@MasamuneChad 2 жыл бұрын

This is going to sound overly dramatic but my eyes watered up a bit. Seeing this as a possibility unfold in the last few months is making me really hopeful. I was just in my old Stadium 2 and found monsters that I still have from my old childhood friends. The thought that if I could have them survive means a piece of my personal history could be preserved. Thank you for what you've created. I know there are other ways to manually duplicate them through a hack device but this method makes it feel legitimate.

@TheGlitchyMario 2 жыл бұрын

Take all the time you need. I’d much rather have a good product than a rushed product.

@hanktank45 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome seeing more progress on this project. This is an area that hasn't been touched as much and it's super fascinating to see.

@af.1477 8 ай бұрын

I am very excited to see the next updates! Hope to be able to purchase online in the near future. Hope you have an amazing day!

@numberoneappgames 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you bring this to market. I can't wait to own one. 💜

@IngwiePhoenix 2 жыл бұрын

The custom ROM idea sounds really interesting - actually, I have a question regarding that. When a GB/C game runs on the GBA, what exactly does it see from the Link port? It has a different pinout but from what I gather, the port is still quite manually controlled. Or, is it? That would be my question: What can a GB/C game in a GBA actually do with the link port? Also if you end up making this rom I really hope you make this public so other gen2 hacks like Crystal Clear can add it as features; it's just such an amazing feature!

@Goppier 2 жыл бұрын

A GBC game in a GBA has the same link cable functionalities as if it's in a GBC. It doesn't matter in which console the GBC game is played from. In the video I made my own GBA rom that communicates with GEN2. GEN2 stays unmodified and vanilla. So in theory you can modify emerald to make them communicate directly

@IngwiePhoenix 2 жыл бұрын

@@Goppier Oh! So it's the other way around, oops. That said though, wouldn't the voltage difference on the power lines be a problem?

@makho 2 жыл бұрын

@@IngwiePhoenix Presumably nintendo already solved that problem. I think I can speak for a lot of us that had GBs around the time gen 3 launched and plugging a GBC in to a GBA doesn't appear to have any detrimental effects.

@pod650 2 жыл бұрын

It is actually insane how you're going about doing this. Amazing work!

@joshuakelly9390 2 жыл бұрын

Very excited to see where you go with this. Subbed. Can't wait to hear more.

@jezusmylord 6 ай бұрын

I would totally buy this, for a reasonable price of course.

@jezusmylord 6 ай бұрын

reasonable doesnt mean cheap, please give us an update

@Goppier Ай бұрын

Working on an update!

@o0julek0o 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe a Kickstarter? Or some kind of preorder thing? Pleeeeease?!

@DGKontopoulos 2 жыл бұрын

I second that! I don't want to miss on having one just because I don't place an order fast enough! ^_^;;

@Goppier 2 жыл бұрын

It's not really necessary to have a Kickstarter right now, maybe in the future. A pre-order might me an idea to gauge how many are interested in the device, but I'll update you all in the future once I'm ready for it

@o0julek0o 2 жыл бұрын

@@Goppier sounds good to me. Could do it a bit like the steam deck where you gotta put down a few £/$/€ for a “spot”.

@DavidFowlerMusic Жыл бұрын

Just found you and marathoned your content. The algo loves that!! Keep up the super interesting work!

@pixelknot3960 2 жыл бұрын

So cool to see the custom ROM at the end. I enquired about this when the decompilation project was completed but it wasn't thought to be possible.

@misterspokkynads420 Жыл бұрын

If you set the game of origin number to 7 or 8 then when it reaches Gen 4 it'll appear as HGSS.

@wesleylittlefield6641 27 күн бұрын

@Goppier Is this something you are still working on? I am so very interested in this!

@viktor.m. 2 жыл бұрын

What a champ you are man. Very cool to see this after decades, looking forward to a retail-ready version:)

@Ricar2002YT 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update! Looks great. Can't wait to see what you come up with next

@MelanX 8 ай бұрын

Are there any updates on the "sale" part of the video?

@IndigoTeddy 2 жыл бұрын

Great work! Wondering if you could modify this to also work between gen 1 and 3...

@youmukonpaku3168 2 жыл бұрын

just...just use the time machine in Gen 2

@IndigoTeddy 2 жыл бұрын

@@youmukonpaku3168 I was just asking because some people might want to transfer their Pokémon straight to gen 3 (a flash-saving game) instead of transferring them from one battery-dependent game to another one.

@rolandorga9212 2 жыл бұрын

Jesus, I certainly didn't expected news from this this soon! Keep going at it, king You're almost done!

@frequency15k 2 жыл бұрын

dude, your videos are so awesome, keep up the great work, if your planning to release it, i definitely wouldnt expect a more technical explanation like i mentioned before lmao, but cool stuff none the less

@eragons1894 4 ай бұрын

I wonder if Goppier is still working on this... Or any content at all for that matter. We haven't heard any updates regarding his channel in over 4 months at the moment. Perhaps he got overwhelmed with the amount of people wanting to buy the trade device, and gave up on it? I really hope this isn't the case, but it's a possibility.

@Goppier 2 ай бұрын

Just uploaded a new video and still working on the device! A good way to stay in contact is to join the discord server!

@Victini0510 2 жыл бұрын

The competitive meta for Gen 3 could be radically changed if Dragonite with Extremespeed is able to be transferred from Gen 1/2.

@xivaro1 Жыл бұрын

Extreme speed Is an egg move for Dragonite in the current Switch titles and gen 6 and 7 and presumably 8. I know this because I have a shiny gen 6 dragonite with extreme speed which was bred.

@Victini0510 Жыл бұрын

@@xivaro1 extremespeed is notably not obtainable on ADV Dragonite, which hinders it's competitive viability. Acquiring a Dnite with extreme speed could cause a major shakeup

@xivaro1 Жыл бұрын

@@Victini0510 I was unaware of Dragonite not getting Extremespeed in Gen 3. I thought it did considering the gift dratini with extremespeed in GSC. Well I made an error and I apologize even though it was due to me being unaware.

@xivaro1 Жыл бұрын

@メルウィン59 It must have been added dragonite’s move pool to pay homage to the dragon I with extreme speed you can get in the original GSC. I assumed it was added in Gen 3 when it had not been. That was a mistake on my part.

@tktyga77 Жыл бұрын

Conversely, also see the effects of tradebacks & the implications it would have on Gen 2 & even Gen 1

@miguelmunoz9738 2 жыл бұрын

Really nice you still working on it, I hope you can share with us in the future…. Keep doing

2 жыл бұрын

If legality check can go up to gen 6, in theory it is possible to create a definitive, "legal" version of the first 4 generations which could transfer to Gen V; and even add Unova with some tweaks: 1. Any 1st gen game with all regular wild Pokemon, including starters, and an ingame Mew trade (for a Dragonite, perhaps). 2. VC Pokemon Crystal with all regular wild Pokemon, including starters. As it is the VC version, it has the Celebi event. 3. Pokemon Emerald hack with all available Pokemon. In game trades are swapped for the Hoenn starters and a Jirachi (from that Battle Frontier Meowth), as well as Birth and Southern Islands available. 4. Pokemon Platinum with all available Pokemon. In game trades are swapped for the Sinnoh starters, the Happiny egg is replaced for the Manaphy Egg, and all 3 event items are available at some point. The reason trades are swapped for starters is to pass legal checks as all trades always have regular Poke Balls. As all gens I and II Pokemon display "migrated from Kanto" when sent to gen IV and there weren't special Ribbons or Poke Balls prior Sinnoh, a full chain could be achieved and technically possible.

@salvatorebramante5539 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work! Have you any github project? I want to know more about the code

@Goppier 2 жыл бұрын

Not at the moment! I'll try to upload some of the code later and post a link in the description. There is already a github page from the Walda Pepper video, so you'll find it there eventually

@salvatorebramante5539 2 жыл бұрын

@@Goppier Thanks :)

@salvatorebramante5539 2 жыл бұрын

@@Goppier Thanks! I'll wait for the source :)

@zionox688 2 жыл бұрын

It’s kind of insane to think your solving a multiple decades old problem that was so devastating for an entire generation of Pokémon fans. Keep it up man, your doing some great work here.

@xbzacy234 11 ай бұрын

Fun fact: The unused files in gen 3 also had the time capsule hidden in the files. So there was plans to link gen 2 and gen 3 originally but was scrapped due to probably being too complicated at the time.

@yeah_that_dante Жыл бұрын

Dropping a comment because I am 1000% grabbing one of these when you put them up for sale. You're a freaking genius homie!

@SnoFitzroy 2 жыл бұрын

I'm utterly blown away that HOME and Bank accepted them, since they're all extremely illegal (even if they are legitimate, it's not the same as legal)

@TinyKatyusha 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Even if it's being tricked into thinking the Pokémon are from FireRed and the stats/moves aren't anything wacky, the fact that it didn't red flag the Mew and Celebi in particular surprises me. The rest I'm not so surprised about, but there was only a handful of ways to get Mew and Celebi in Gen3, and the OT obviously wouldn't match the events they originated from in that generation. Due to the nature of this project, though, I wouldn't be surprised if some Pokémon are flagged while others are permitted. Not sure exactly what HOME and Bank's protections look for but obviously incorrect moves and modified stats are part of it.

@thetechconspiracy2 2 жыл бұрын

@@TinyKatyusha I know you could catch Mew via an event in all the Gen 3 games, including FireRed. That doesn't explain how Celebi was able to make it to Bank, unless a bug in Poké Transporter doesn't check the OT of Celebi, since the VC release of Crystal (which uses Poké Transporter to go up to Bank) does let you catch Celebi, the event was hardcoded into that release.

@TinyKatyusha 2 жыл бұрын

@@thetechconspiracy2 Don't think it looks at the OT or verifies the legitimacy of event Pokémon at all. In my tests I was able to get some Mew and Celebi past Bank's checks that were simply caught with the Action Replay code to make any Pokémon appear in tall grass in Gen4. Some got caught and others didn't, so I have no idea what the checks actually look for. Sidenote, I don't condone cheating of course, it was done just to test Bank's legitimacy checks out of curiosity. So regardless of what Bank actually looks for, it appears to be anything but perfect.

@TinyKatyusha 2 жыл бұрын

@@thetechconspiracy2 There was one in-life Gen3 Celebi event for North America as well, but the rest were Japan-only including the Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc Celebi.

@lpfan4491 2 жыл бұрын

The Celebi in VC is the same Celebi that was in the original release. It's just that the emulator sets the value in memory that triggers the unused event.

@hisaceinthehole3426 8 ай бұрын

I hope you're serious about selling them. I will throw money at you so fast, *you will not survive the impact.*

@coenkonieczny4207 2 ай бұрын

Hahaha yes👀

@micah0000 2 жыл бұрын

I immediately went to this video after I finished the first video and this is just so... Amazing!!! I feel like that one guy in the beginning town gushing about how technology is amazing...

@DarkBowser64 2 жыл бұрын

It's been excellent watching this journey. I think you're onto something with multi-boot: it's very likely that you might be able to get it working that way, as a similar thing is used when connecting the gen 3 games to Colosseum and XD to trade Pokemon, and the Poke Transfer Lab with gen 5 for receiving gen 4 mons works in a very similar way with DS Download Play--it starts the downloaded software, and checks your save file. You can hold select when starting up a GBA to not boot the cartridge and instead load data through the port, so the cartridge slot doesn't have to be empty, and a program loaded that way is very likely to be able to work as a valid method of trading. This would also potentially be able to load up any 6 mons of your choice from any of your PC boxes in the gen 3 game, and trade them without them having to be in the party if it just checks the save file and allows you to choose 6.

@julius4858 2 жыл бұрын

Make another button that maximises the IVs so it’s actually worth it

@SpecialeW 2 жыл бұрын

Darn it, now I need to get my hands on some link cables... Very cool project! Keep up the good work.

@judemcnab4394 2 жыл бұрын

Cannot overstate how excited I am for this. Incredible work!

@Kali_Krause 2 жыл бұрын

You are a legend man! This is mind blowing!

@MrSmitheroons 2 жыл бұрын

Even if you go the "document how to make one yourself, but don't sell it" route, I would be tempted to follow that documentation as a DIY project for myself... Thanks or sharing this! Really cool.

@the_premier_zone Жыл бұрын

found this on my recommended, amazing work on this project its very nice to see a big achievement in the Pokemon community

@lowkeyxd5538 6 ай бұрын

For once youtube gave me a very precious recommendation channel 😭

@RandomXbox360 2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit keep up the good work! Glad to see this is still going!! Would definitely be willing to buy!

@KaiCyreus 2 жыл бұрын

the most satisfying part is the casing, was really hoping for that hahah

@thedarkblackspeedy3140 10 ай бұрын

I dont own the gen 1 & 2 but if youre battery still lives this is the bridge Pokemon company never made. This cool dude just made this in his free time. Now the little bugs out and its ready for sale. He will become the hero who saved the gen 1 & 2 pokemon before there gone for good

@aname4931 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, I just saw your previous vid, nice to see a new vid!

@Juvination 2 жыл бұрын

Wow you are doing some amazing things! I'm looking forward to seeing more

@Hourglass36 Жыл бұрын

Very glad to not just hear an outright no when asked about selling these, I would absolutely buy one

@orestis9977 Жыл бұрын

I’ve often thought about how incredible it was to be able to take your Pokémon with you forwards through the games. It always disappointed me to think of gens one and two as islands, distant and cut off from the rest of the series. But the way you tackle this problem, you’re literally building a bridge back in time to those games, saving them in a way that makes them relevant again. It just makes me so happy to see someone putting in the work to make this possible. To fix this problem that’s literally been around for over twenty years! I know everyone who’s played those games is going to want this. I know I do. Thank you so much for making it possible!!

@samuelturner6076 2 жыл бұрын

Progress on this is always exciting, looking forward to seeing more.

@MultiTurtletime 2 ай бұрын

KZfaq was nice enough to show me this video! Liking and bookmarking so I can find again later, and hopefully give you my money!

@hawkfeather6802 2 жыл бұрын

Your project is really cool! Half the reason I haven't played any gen 2 game is because I was disappointed my pokemon would be stuck in their game forever. I look forward to seeing your progress!

@hawkfeather6802 2 жыл бұрын

@Sparksterlot I have,heartgold was my favorite for a while. I started playing pokemon crystal recently. It's pretty cool!

@Kitinporta 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing work! Thank you!

@r49507 2 жыл бұрын

This is super exciting!! I would really love to buy the adapter! Congrats!!

@linker843 2 жыл бұрын

So excited to even possibly buy this! (Just afraid if made public/limited run, then they will all sell in 1 minute and I will miss out) Maybe gauge interest before/take pre-orders/give plenty of notice beforehand? I’m stoked!