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Gender Stereotypes | Women in the 1980s | Youth TV | White light | 1981

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Presenter James Maw chairs a heated studio discussion about gender stereotypes, and then kind of obstacles facing women wanting to join the workplace.
First shown: 30/10/1981
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@stevo728822
@stevo728822 3 жыл бұрын
Young people in the 80's were so much more articulate than they are these days.
@civlyzed
@civlyzed 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we were 😁, thanks for remembering.
@silvagni97
@silvagni97 3 жыл бұрын
That’s bs
@silvagni97
@silvagni97 3 жыл бұрын
Bro we have to deal with climate change u knob
@silvagni97
@silvagni97 3 жыл бұрын
Boomer
@CianODonnell
@CianODonnell 3 жыл бұрын
They were screened for this show.
@velocepeyet
@velocepeyet 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 1978 I was told by an RAF Careers Officer that women don't fly planes. When I asked why he said that it was because women's periods made them unreliable! I was left absolutely speechless.
@TheAnish01
@TheAnish01 3 жыл бұрын
Fluent speech with much clarity but in the present day it is terrible ..
@starbuck5228
@starbuck5228 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do agree , it's very sad indeed 😢
@TheAnish01
@TheAnish01 3 жыл бұрын
@@starbuck5228 Perhaps it is the effect of vast spread of American colloquial slang..I pray there must be a stop to it.
@starbuck5228
@starbuck5228 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAnish01 Kids today need to take elocution lessons majorities off can't speak proper English.
@TheAnish01
@TheAnish01 3 жыл бұрын
@@starbuck5228 True indeed miss, You see I'm from India, there is the influence of Colonial British English.. One learns eloquent English from the very fondness to Shakespeares plays and writings ..As one known as the father of English.. Are you English by any chance if I might ask miss..
@starbuck5228
@starbuck5228 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAnish01 Yes I'm British born and raised
@god563616
@god563616 Жыл бұрын
You see all the cultures having a passionate yet articulate conversation is absolutely Beautiful!!
@SMichaelDeHart
@SMichaelDeHart 3 жыл бұрын
A lot has definitely changed in 40 years.
@spidyman8853
@spidyman8853 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@jimsimpson1006
@jimsimpson1006 3 жыл бұрын
For the better or worse, would you say? (Hint: IMO for the worse!)
@SMichaelDeHart
@SMichaelDeHart 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimsimpson1006 honestly...in some aspects the results of change have exceeded expectations. However, in many other area's the changes have destroyed the unity of families.
@K.Kitbex
@K.Kitbex 3 жыл бұрын
In some ways, yes. I still have to pay my way to earn my pilot's licence and men my age got this for free.
@SMichaelDeHart
@SMichaelDeHart 3 жыл бұрын
@@K.Kitbex so why should a government pay for you to get a certification or ĺicence so you can become a pilot? Go join the military...they'll pay for it. I worked (full time) my way through college. That's my responsibility, not the government.
@colinracheljustpootling7468
@colinracheljustpootling7468 3 жыл бұрын
Days before the words ‘like’ & ‘innit’ were part of every sentence.
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
Innit comes from Jamaican Patois, the use of 'like' comes from America. If Britain didn't colonise those countries or enslave anyone no one would be saying innit or like
@microaggressionsurvivor2937
@microaggressionsurvivor2937 3 жыл бұрын
They can talk to each other without shouting and name calling.
@jimsimpson1006
@jimsimpson1006 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I was about to say that. It’s the 1980s and everybody isn’t outraged and offended!
@monkehbitch
@monkehbitch 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimsimpson1006 you're right. I didn't exactly experience the 80's being born in '84 but going from the 90's into this snowflake generation is terrible. At least in the 90's, people had thick skin. Now, it's just a generation of melts.
@Rob_Walker.
@Rob_Walker. 3 жыл бұрын
Have an 80s evening with your family turn off the Wi-Fi 😘 and only allow 4 tv channels
@civlyzed
@civlyzed 3 жыл бұрын
The 80's are my favorite decade, but I do appreciate the advances in dental care since then! Cheers!
@spidyman8853
@spidyman8853 3 жыл бұрын
Even actress June Brown (Dot Cotton) has stated that her teeth were terrible in 80s and with fame and money for years, she managed to get her teeth re-done.
@MrDanielfff777
@MrDanielfff777 3 жыл бұрын
what advances
@civlyzed
@civlyzed 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrDanielfff777 There have been many, I'm not going to do all the research for you, but here are two links if you have time to check them out, please do: thetealumbrella.ca/2019/06/how-has-dentistry-changed-over-the-years/ www.brocksgapdentalgroup.com/the-5-most-amazing-advancements-in-dentistry-in-the-past-ten-years/
@louduva9849
@louduva9849 3 жыл бұрын
Judith Chisholm was a striking woman. I was sad to read that she died just seven years after this taping.
@bernadettehynes-cafferkey3917
@bernadettehynes-cafferkey3917 3 жыл бұрын
So sad, she died from cancer in 1988 and her life ahead of her 😢
@paddy1437
@paddy1437 3 жыл бұрын
Reasoned debate between non woke people. Awesome
@tonyinit8488
@tonyinit8488 3 жыл бұрын
Blimey.... it got a bit heated towards the end... that poor girl got lectured !😲
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
The young Black guy who was lecturing the young Black woman did not take into account that she is both Black + Woman and probably from a working-class background... She's battling 1. Anti-Black Racism 2. Misogyny/Sexism 3. Classism That's 3 strikes against you! In today's world the intersectionality between those 3 oppressions still holds many Black girls and women back! she was battling more oppression than the Black boys. I wanted to stick up for her so much!
@technischemaschinenfabrik5882
@technischemaschinenfabrik5882 2 жыл бұрын
Women were really pretty in the 80's.
@EgoShredder
@EgoShredder 3 жыл бұрын
This obsession with equalising everything has to stop, or it will end very badly indeed. Nature is about balance but how that is achieved is rarely if ever a 50/50 thing. Anyone can be what they want, but to engineer society to achieve this is wrong. Let things happen naturally, rather than by force.
@MrDanielfff777
@MrDanielfff777 3 жыл бұрын
Fernand Braudel said, “In no society have all regions and all parts of the population developed equally.”
@jimsimpson1006
@jimsimpson1006 3 жыл бұрын
The women are still so feminine looking and not just talking as if they want to be men.
@ianhill20101
@ianhill20101 3 жыл бұрын
They picked the 2 successful woman out of thousands alike and said this is widely achievable, bollocks get in amazon robots
@legacyouternational305
@legacyouternational305 2 жыл бұрын
An incredible woman Judith Chisholm RIP
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
she seemed quite cool
@ferglesnerk
@ferglesnerk 3 жыл бұрын
LOL ... Quiet, orderly, polite, pub fight between Arsenal and Spurs, quiet, orderly ....
@fotopraktica
@fotopraktica Жыл бұрын
This started off civilsed then it degenerated into Jerry Springer yelling pretty fast !
@eleanordavies9815
@eleanordavies9815 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed!
@sufeeb
@sufeeb Ай бұрын
What amazes me is the accents, completely different to nowadays....especially the black girls.
@jennytaylor3324
@jennytaylor3324 3 жыл бұрын
In wales, most of the men are brought up learning knitting like it's second nature. It's an asexual traditional craft. The blond woman spoke well, i thought.
@borispugmomdelyth6244
@borispugmomdelyth6244 Жыл бұрын
What is this show called?
@picklewiickle.1583
@picklewiickle.1583 3 жыл бұрын
see how black people were treated with respect back then. their excuse today about racism is something they built themselves.
@FHIPrincePeter
@FHIPrincePeter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes something certainly has changed. Back then I thought after the showing of "Roots" and the music culture of Ska I and Ska II along with the Soul (Casiters Soul Weekends etc) and Reggae integration would have occurred but I feel that while the Black community has been disenfranchised the Asian community side-lined the idea of integration and have been accepted by the establishment on their own terms, while the Afro-Caribbean community has been left and pushed aside.
@peterhigginsson9875
@peterhigginsson9875 3 жыл бұрын
This was obviously filmed in the middle of London, that's why there were so many black people in the audience. Not really representative of the demographic
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
You're delusional if you think that Black people were treated respectfully all over the UK, based on 1 tv show, filmed in the middle of London. Wake up
@moominmay
@moominmay 7 ай бұрын
@@thehoneyeffectignore him he’s a nasty troll
@spidyman8853
@spidyman8853 3 жыл бұрын
A lot has changed in 4 decades. Women are equal as men in Pay and position. Now a days both sets of parents go out to work and kids who are 14 years or more provided they are sensible, come home to an empty house. They have to fend for themselves till one of the parents come home. Whereas in pre 1990s, the wife or her in doors, stayed at home and prepared the meals for kids and hubby to come home to. Which do you prefer pre 1990s or post 1990s ? and has the family structure stayed in tact ?
@SMichaelDeHart
@SMichaelDeHart 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great question...not one that I can honestly answer right now. It's definitely a question that has massive ramifications either way.
@microaggressionsurvivor2937
@microaggressionsurvivor2937 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80/90s and often cooked for myself. People moan about food now, but food back then good be absolutely terrible. We went hungry and were thin. Now kids have an obesity problem yet are going hungry? There isn't much common sense anymore. Truth isn't valued. The way people communicate on the internet has got people used to confirmatin bias and tribalism as a means of communication.
@moominmay
@moominmay 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think family structure is more broken post 90s (assuming that is the case as I haven’t looked into the stats) because more women are going out to work. At least one parent is generally back by 6pm which leaves plenty family time. Also both parents bringing more income means the kids can actually have more things in an educational and holiday/entertainment sense as well as having strong female and male role models. If it’s as simple as a parent not being available in an evening then there’s nothing to stop the man staying at home either if he’s earning less. Generally working couples are both working precisely because they’re invested in improving and supporting their own family and not relying on welfare. In my experience any families that have broken around me is due to couples having simply fallen out of love with each other or ones had an affair etc. and I’m not sure what anyone can do about that.
@charles-vq6sd
@charles-vq6sd 3 жыл бұрын
i believe it has destroyed family life. In the end both sets of parents have no time for each other. This leads to family breakdown. It is not sensible in my view to equalize pay between men and women.
@vimo8109
@vimo8109 3 жыл бұрын
@@charles-vq6sd why shouldn't pay be equalized?
@evelynwilson1566
@evelynwilson1566 3 жыл бұрын
I think post Covid, we've realised the value of those jobs traditionally done by women - retail, teaching, nursing. It will be interesting to see if there are any subsequent pay rises across these sectors (personally I think nurses and teachers are already well paid but probably worth more. There are lots of women who are like myself, prefer and are better at doing practical outdoors work to being in shops, factories or offices and opportunities are only now opening up to us, that sort of thing is still very male dominated, whereas more traditionally female roles have been opened up to men and women on the whole have been quite accommodating and accepting. In those terms people should be paid for the job they do and their skill, not their gender, and we need to reassess what jobs we think are valuable. The bulk of child rearing, IMO should be done by the person best suited, and that is not always the mother, but yes where possible a parent should be at home. I think there's a lot to be said for the softer skills that women bring to any workforce, and for a more masculine drive and aggression in female dominated workforces. Men and women are different but we can complement each other and in terms of the workplace what matters is whether the person has good enough skills or potential to do all aspects of the job - because that is affected by many things, not just gender (I'm quite good at teaching people, but I would be a terrible nurse, my fingers are not nimble enough for factory work and I can't stand noisy environments, and I hate cooking)-, not whether tradition says that they should have . I loved the two women. That young man who shouted down the young woman was behaving horribly, making assumptions and judging her based on two sentences, turning everything into a war.
@explorer806
@explorer806 3 жыл бұрын
A time when men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
@sanchoodell6789
@sanchoodell6789 3 жыл бұрын
*Don't* panic! and the answer is 42!
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
Relax
@Alfredromeothatsme
@Alfredromeothatsme 3 жыл бұрын
Brut, my go to aftershave back in the day!
@felixmitchell7888
@felixmitchell7888 10 ай бұрын
see how this programme had all types of young people in discussion unity no one trying to kill anyone, that what we had in 80s unity and respect,get along with people, well try to. nowadays kids no respect wanna stab you. different times different people.where i came from had manners and respect for elders people.
@Time_Line_Archive_Project
@Time_Line_Archive_Project 3 жыл бұрын
And then tiktok happened
@TheAxelay
@TheAxelay 3 жыл бұрын
It's really gotten worse after 4 decades here...It somehow made sense and all was well, well as well as it could be back then..Suddenly now people can identify as an ice box and that's so norm, stunning and brave as well cool. Also gender roles and family foundations have been broken down and have been decimated to the core to the point of no return. Careful for what you have wished for decades back?! Balances of power have shifted and in this day and age?! That's but on a personal account I'd take 1981 over this 2021 koof pandemic hell hole as of now.
@pit_stop77
@pit_stop77 3 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about. Those kids were talking about there desire to change an oppressive society that put them in boxes, today is no different, except the discussion is different. And your comment about wanting to be an icebox shows how you are still part of the oppression that continues to pout people in boxes
@TheAxelay
@TheAxelay 3 жыл бұрын
@@pit_stop77 oh right?! You want to bring in generational change here?! Well guess what half if not all those people are the very same populace that are running the show in this world now?! That's how it is as every generation blames the last one before?! For the ills of this world, well it can't be any worse than what it is now can it?! But I bet it will get a lot more worse before it gets any better here! It's just a vicious circle that goes on and on, it'll never die. The promise was that things in time are supposed to get better not worse! You bought yourself into that lie not me! Maybe aspects back were great but people failed to see that and you don't know what you lost till its gone. Well now it is gone and future generations are damned for it! I won't live to see it get any better and neither will you either in this lifetime. You brought it up via the generational Gap not me! As for identity politics, that was kinda a joke but you got all woke over it. But don't worry as they'll be even harsher times ahead from now and you won't have a sense a humor if it identified as one cheers.
@Anna.GG.
@Anna.GG. 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAxelay I totally agree with you, on both comments! 👍
@xfactor3000
@xfactor3000 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you offended J Wall because it is a closeted ice box.
@MrRozburn
@MrRozburn 3 жыл бұрын
This is how it started and now we have chix wit dix everywhere
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
and you love it
@MrDanielfff777
@MrDanielfff777 3 жыл бұрын
The women at 06:00 is hot
@victorc8804
@victorc8804 3 жыл бұрын
And in 2021 you are all old or dead
@burntrim
@burntrim 3 жыл бұрын
That blond bird was fit
@CianODonnell
@CianODonnell 3 жыл бұрын
Women done up to the nines in cosmetics debating gender stereotypes.
@sarahflynn5762
@sarahflynn5762 3 жыл бұрын
you're allowed to wear make-up and also debate gender stereotypes...
@sarahflynn5762
@sarahflynn5762 3 жыл бұрын
not all of them were wearing make-up though
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