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Her name is Marion...not Mary-on.

I agree. But to make it feel more smooth (the transition between the 2 actors) I like to think he’s more dopey once he is home with him mom and real nervous especially once he sees Gene there with her. He knows he’s not in control of the situation anymore so he’s less confident. Idk if that was the same thought process of the show runners but I think it’s a good way to help move past the actor change.

I thought the original Jeff had this like spookier vibe too, but props to that other actor for stepping up and filling the role as well as he did. Even though he didn’t have the same kind of chemistry with bob, imo I feel like the dopier version almost fit better into this latest episode than old Jeff would have if that makes sense

Slippin jeffy

I thought the other Jeff was better. More intimidating.

True but I can't imagine the original actor falling like that

right?!

The loneliness underneath it felt perfectly timed.

New Jeff kinda ruined it. It felt like a season 2 episode where Jimmy did some scheme with some buddies for lulz. It didn't feel like he was in danger of his cover being exposed. Old Jeff was way more intimidating, you could feel Saul was in real danger with him.

The thing with the two Jeff characters. People get too hung up. Pretty simple, a lot of other people have mentioned this too. In the mall, Jeff had Saul surprised and cornered. He’s a real tough guy until he sees Gene in his mother’s kitchen charming her. Now he’s rattled. Big time.

@@jpmnky yeah he’s all bark no bite I don’t know how people don’t pick up on that

I liked it, more so for them having the balls to do it so late in the show. It was a good change of pace.

A lot of people expected Walt and Jesse this episode, based on the leaked reporting. I'm so glad that we didn't get it though, as now we are in legitimate suspense as to when they appear. The same people criticizing this episode are the ones who criticized episodes like Sabrosito and Black & Blue the night after they aired. And guess what, those criticisms always come back to haunt them.

It’s exactly what Jimmy would have done. He isn’t Walter and the writers were going to have him handle it just as Jimmy would. It was awesome.

I liked it, but I understand why some didn't. With only 4 episodes left in the entire series, it didn't do much to progress the plot. Everything could have been condensed to half an episode or less and still gotten everything across plus advanced the plot. But honestly, the breakneck pace and intensity of the last few episodes was unsustainable. Because if there's no valleys the peaks will seem a lot more dull. We need a lull so the final 2 episodes are comparatively thrilling.

I feel like some people are letting their bb nostalgia affect their experiences with bcs, getting a machine gun and killing everybody was the perfect way for Walter white to end all his problems, but that wouldn't make sense for Jimmy, this episode however, is pure slipping Jimmy action, and goddammit I love it

No. It was all about making Jeff say, what he made Saul say.

Also when Mike started yelling YOU ARE DONE to his innocent granddaughter 😂

I think it's reminiscent of Mike making people repeat something in order to make them remember it for good.

@@daves9355 both is good

​@@ccj1227 or gus saying that to walt

the convo got so awkwardly personal, it does make sense the officer wouldn't want gene to visit again. jimmy had no intention of returning after this anyway. it's just going to look like he's embarrassed to come back.

Also, I think in both cases - Walt AND Saul - they were accessing REAL feelings that they ACTUALLY possessed somewhere in their psyche and using those to “method act” in the moment, which was really cool

I love just how purposefully misguiding the writers are. We all imagined that line would come back at the end of the series, but it was used to describe Nippy being found! What could the next episodes possibly show us now?

I thought for sure Kim and Jeff were connected. What a misdirect of that line! Good on whoever puts the teasers together!

I laughed like hell the first time I read that Kim and Jeff were somehow hooked up. So silly.

Those teasers have been deliberately designed to mislead and trip us up. The "I'm not your friend" line was in another one and we also just saw it in Jeff's garage, again it felt totally benign and inconsequential. People thought the "Now, what to do with you" line was referring to Howard's body but it was actually referring to Jimmy.

I don't think this story is over yet. You don't bring in Carol freaking Burnett just to play a sweet old lady. They could have got anyone for that. She's onto Saul.

I read that if you view it as Saul/Gene’s point of view the change in character kind of makes sense. Gene goes from being intimidated with no upper hand to speak of, to almost making one out of thin air - with nothing but his words and ability to read people. I agree with you though.

And I completely agree with the both of yous!

It was not good. Barely worth watching. Just more slippin Jimmy.

Except fly is a average episode, and this was fun to watch. Only problem is that it’s a waste to do it this late into the series, unless this bites Saul in the ass and is what gets him caught

People seem to easily forget this lol.

It never does in this show lol

“after all that a happy ending” turns out to be a useless nothing line VINCE…. I KNEEL.. B-BRAVO……..

Exactly. People believe that Jimmy was gone and Saul took over. Yeah but Jimmy was in there. Hence all of his Jimmy McGill momentous in his mansion. He is still in there and Saul Goodman is just a face that he made himself wear. Reminds me of what Mike told him and Kim sitting on the bed before they went to the courthouse after Howard and then on top of that, Kim leaving. That’s a straight up self preservation mask.

Kind of worded it poorly, sorry. Just woke up and felt like the world could hear my opinion. Lol per usual

@@sauerfamily you’re right because when Gene holds up the shirt and tie and sizes himself up in the mirror we’re seeing all three of his personae at once.

Nice Catch! I knew that tune as well!

i knew it was from one of my 60s soundtrack albums, the Mission: Impossible LP from 1967 is a masterpiece.

Go Big Red!!!

I don't remember Vicki Lawrence doing those commercials....but I do remember "The Night that the Lights Went Out in Georgia"

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Eh...nah. Fact is that the actor change was due to the fact that the first Jeff was contractually obligated to another TV project and could not reprise the role. But IMO the recast choice was poor.

Like Gordon ramsay says : YOU ARE IN FUCKING DENIAL no, this episode was SHIT and the new actor is crap

@@WJSuberMD eh...yeah. that's true, but people can have their own headcanons that make the show make a little more sense.

@@WJSuberMD that's what happened in reality, I think it's a good way to interpret why he looks different in universe though. It's what I've been doing.

@@KevinLuper99 Ive never understood the term, "headcon." It's a misnomer. Canon is canon, determined by the writer/creators. But I digress.... lol

Lol I literally said that to myself when he left it on the rack. Very nice touch

@Wieldy Nutz Given what we know thus far, it could just be the fact that he wanted to get in the game, expecting he'll make more money with time. He was just doing what he was being told by Saul, believing that step by step he would become a successful criminal.

I haven't seen hate for the episode. It was an essential part of the evolution of the story. It frustrates me that non-thinking folk who watch cannot see this. (1) the "Jeff threat" had to be resolved. And with so few episodes left, it had to be "done and one;" (2) The episode shows overtly the "Saul tryin' to get out" concept, where Gene, by necessity, let "Saul fix the thing" so to speak; up to recently, we weren't sure if Saul/SJ was gone forever or not. Now we know for sure that he was just under the surface (hints with the "get a lawyer!" comment, yes. (3) the solution was clever, well written and executed (agree original Jeff better...intimidating, while this one was goofy...this recast choice is the one negative of the episode.); (4) The episode ends with the viewer not sure how this "slippin' Jimmy/Saul resurfacing" will affect Gene's future (Is Gene likely to just go back to being a Cinnabon manager for the rest of his life? Not likely.Or is this "taste" of "the game" too tempting? But how will it play out? We will soon know. And how would Gene's taste of the beloved "Saul" life jibe with any potential long-term Kim reunion? These seem incongruent. These facts lead to tension for the viewer to desire seeing resolution, one way or the other. Perhaps I am being uncharitable for those who did not like the episode. But since BCS is IMO the or one of the best TV shows ever produced, on a myriad of levels, and, by extension, I assume the viewers are sophisticated enough to appreciate all the overt and subtle implications of the episode, I cannot see how S6E10 is not appreciated for the essential episode that it is. Don't worry. We are not done with flashbacks, BCS/BB world, and I am sure, some bit of Kim (love Rhea and the character).

@@WJSuberMD ​ I agree with many of the points you make, but I was still slightly disappointed at the end of the episode for one reason in particular. The plot of the episode was really enjoyable, with Gene using a classic Slippin’ Jimmy type scheme in order to solve his Jeff problem. Additionally, the implication of Gene getting a “taste” of the old life and wanting more of that makes me excited (and scared) to see what kind of trouble he gets into next… I’m really glad to see Gene not simply live the rest of his life in fear/unhappiness. I think all of this is really good for the Gene timeline moving forward (because we have to be getting a bit more finality with Gene than where we left off at the end of Nippy) However, my main issue with the episode is the character of Jeff himself. This is a character we’ve been speculating about for YEARS (since he was introduced in season 4) and not to mention, all of the promotional material has been hinting at Jeff being a serious threat. To have Jeff’s character be as simple as a guy who used to be in Albuquerque and just happened to recognize Saul seemed a little flat to me. With that kind of anticipation, I think Jeff should have been somehow connected to the BCS or BB timelines. I suppose that’s still a remote possibility in some fashion, but I don’t think it’s likely after seeing how Nippy played out. Sure, I’m really glad this episode seems to be the catalyst for Gene to become more like Saul/Jimmy moving forward, but I can’t help but feel Jeff, and by extension, this episode was a relatively easy way to get Saul to resurface from within Gene.

I feel that season 6 is like two mini seasons combined. They even had waiting time for new episodes which kinda proves the point. How I feel is that Lalos death should had ended the first mini season and this episode would be great start after the little wait. But i understand their decisions to release episodes this way and order at this point.

@@jari-petterivirtanen4629 Ending with Lalo’s death would’ve been a good place but they weren’t planning to split it up like they did. That was forced on them because of a 5-week delay after Bob’s heart attack and covid restrictions. Their original plan was just to play them all straight through so it does feel a little weird

Agree.

Nah I think he could pull it off

Yes!!! I noticed this too and it was honestly a bit menacing to see Saul pick up that from Walt. It’s most likely a reference to Jeff but the parallel is really cool

That's what I was thinking when I first saw that! I see it as Gene learning from his mistake as Saul, of letting Walt go too far with control, and he's not letting anyone go that far again. When he wants to be done, he's gonna make damn sure that he's done.

It might be over for Kim story-wise but Gene is never over her.

He had that lunchbox in earlier Gene flash forwards as well.

I noticed it. I don't think we've seen the last of Kim

Very true that was my first thought, but KC's AAA team is in omaha, and Nebraska tends to root for KC teams. So it could also be camo as well as a nod to kim.

Of course it's not the end of Kim. You did see the previews for next week right?

Gene said that Jeff wanted in in the game. Jeff wants to be a gangster like Saul.

@@MetalCharlo I think a cool $5MM would've slaked that thirst. Given Marion's comments, I would agree that there is probably something not good awaiting him in Albuquerque.

The reason "Gene" was hanging out with Jeff's mom was to send a vague threat to Jeff that his mom was in the company of a dangerous criminal. Then Gene enticed Jeff, a bored and not wealthy taxi driver living with his mother, with the promise of getting him into "the game." But the whole plan was in fact just to entrap Jeff so that if he tried to rat Saul out he would go down too. That was the whole point of the episode.

@@Snottle1 don’t forget when Saul called the vacuum guy and he said he’d take care of it. That’s how he ended up taking care of it.

@@Snottle1 The question arises from before that. Why didn't Jeff immediately inform the authorities? I don't really see Jeff as a criminal, he had to be coerced and practically forced into it. The conversation about "The Game" wasn't Gene seeing that Jeff wanted it, it was Gene convicing Jeff that he wanted it.

I thought that too! There was so much suspense!

That line paid off though as Jeff slipped on the part of the floor that was just polished. I thought that was more clever than running into the janitor, because I assume that's what a lot of people thought would happen.

Slippin' Jeffie ;)

Damn Killer Karrit is here. I used to watch you play Der Riese with MrDalekJD.

What could have been done is more careful producters and more careful Harvey when he signed his contract with the new TV show. Given he got his other roles thanks to his performance in BCS I think that it's a shame that he signed a contract where he cannot return I'm BCS. Everybody knew that Jeff was to be in season 6. Everybody knew he is an important character that Everybody was looking for. The blame is big

its kind of strange that with all the time they had to film, they didnt have a single time to get that actor in. i get that each episode films over the course of a month or so, so they only have that window, but i feel like the jeff character is important enough to the story to move things around.

@@taopaille-paille4992 I believe Bob Odenkirk’s heart attack pushed back the filming and it interfered with a contract signed by the original actor who played Jeff- so it wasn’t done on purpose, BUT contracts must be honored

I agree 100%- the old Jeff had a much more menacing look than new Slipping Jeffy

I like this theory

No bullshit, I thought the same thing - and frankly, I couldn't have enjoyed the episode as much otherwise.

No, they had to recast Jeff because the original actor was busy shooting "We Own This City" for HBO.

@@seannymommy I understand why he wasn't there, and I blame the original actor for not having the sense to prioritize Saul, but I don't know if that's really an ironclad excuse. It reeks of that time Vince McMahon tried to sell the public on Fake Diesel and Fake Razor Ramon... I still enjoyed the episode, but that took something out of it for me. The whole series gets a 9/10 instead of a 10/10.

@@seannymommy That said, I can understand why Don Harvey wouldn't pass up the chance to work with David Simon. The Wire is the 2nd or 3rd best show to hit the airwaves after all. Nonetheless, I feel robbed of his services.

Malcolm in the Middle also starred Bryan Cranston. Just a coincidence and I highly doubt that's what they had in mind.

Yep I feel like this is exactly what happened. I’ll always wonder how things would’ve transpired with the more menacing version of Jeff.

I find it as this: Jeff was going to be made as a fool regardless. I think jeff thought he could trick and scare Saul, but Gene realized during his phone call with Ed that he has all the control in the situation

I and a few others have believed that this is because Jeff had leverage when confronting Gene in public but he’s a lot more timid now that Gene is with his mom though how Gene came into contact with her remains to be seen.

Probably true. But I also suspect that the writers took the opportunity to use the recasting as a means to show Jeff as he actually was meant to be in the eyes of the audience and not as he appeared from Genes point of view when he was confronted by Jeff and was freaking out inside

@@TheLAGopher the writers said they didnt change it for the new actor - they had written it way before the old jeff couldnt commit to the show. which is strange because I agree with you....

@Commercialdiver Kliensorge yes, I just was happy they decided to do the whole episode that way

@Commercialdiver Kliensorge Well done Sherlock.

I believe that some of the outdoor scenes were actually shot in infrared, which gives the scene a bizarre look.

@Commercialdiver Kliensorge even the logos at the end were

I think ppl that find this episode more humdrum because it is set in the humdrum world of « normal « middle America. Not the punch and glam of the drug cartel. It is a more recognizable world, less exotic. Just a thought.

And I thought I was the only one who recognized this!

Same here. This new one felt weak from the start. The other one you fully believed would try to blackmail, double cross or flat sellout Gene to the police. Would of made his say it speech to Jeff mean a lot more if it was the other actor.

I think we only see him that way because he was caught off guard by Gene encountering him with his mom. Gene became the intimidating one

I noticed it. Also nearest major league team to Omaha...

I think the Royals lunch box was about still having feelings for Kim.

Most MLB baseball fans in Omaha are Royals fans.

Yea he had it in 5x1

He did not state that the theft items were worth "about 5,000 dollars. He stated that theft IN EXCESS of 5,000 increases jail time. The amount (while not crazy high), is not limited to that amount. Also, Gene timed the eating and observed where mall cop sat. Had he not sat that way, Gene would have amended the plan.

Yea, but people act like this show never has scenes that are contrived, remember how Walt took down Gus in breaking bad? I agree though that is a pet peeve of mine when they do that but it's still entertaining and doesn't ruin the immersion for me or anything

@@isaiahromero9861 What's wrong with that scene?

@@joeyhardin5903 not just the scene necessarily. It was the whole process of Walt poisoning brock to get Jesse to think it was gus, and then trying to car bomb him, and then the thing with Hector, it's all just so overly complicated and really out there, I do love Gus's death scene though but I just brought that up because it's definitely one of the most contrived moments of the show

Exactly my thoughts. When Kiwi said that it might be reference to "say my name", i laughed out loud :v

Jeff totally went off plan! Instead of stopping he went greedy and almost effed it all up!

Definitely not as good as the last 3 episodes but it’s a solid B for me

Agree

I view it as Todd’s weight shift in el camino

i hear that but i kind of look at it as a plus. playing on the 'nobody' thread running through lalo and saul and then in genes character and lifestyle. almost like part if the paranoia is suspicious of many peopl who could be jeff. like the character of nobody is shifty in black and white and grayscale. like abstract storytelling

Agreed

Yep. And so many blew it off saying it would be nothing.

Slippin' Jeffie! 😂

I think most of us binge watched the first 5 seasons before season 6 started.

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@@P1CKL3_RICK Saul goods mam

On the BCS podcast, peter gould mentioned that they wrote the entire season before they started filming, so I'm not sure if they would have changed anything mid way through the season

i missed the warning and was unaware who the new actor was. the episode was full of suspense and mixed emotions because again jimmy manipulated not just jeff but those two officers. kim is nowhere around, but jimmy is still abusing people's trust. while that officer was eating the cinnabon i did not want him to turn around. it was not because i was on the thieves' sides. the officer was enjoying that pastry so much. if he was aware of the betrayal, it'd break my heart.

@@lapacesiaconvoi yea the way i looked at it if Jeff got caught then Gene was done for because he was going to sing like a canary

Eh...nah. Fact is that the actor change was due to the fact that the first Jeff was contractually obligated to another TV project and could not reprise the role.

@@WJSuberMD ya I knew that, that’s why I said headcanon. My comment is not about the actors so much as it is the way the character is portrayed. They could have had the new actor play the character closer to how the old actor did, or hire a different actor that could, but they didn’t

@@FernandoDiaz-wh4qx "Headcanon" is not canon, and is a misnomer... 😂🤷🏻‍♂

plz clarify

The box delivered was invoice 1968AE35. A 2001 reference. Released in 1968 and HAL told the crew the AE-35 unit was going to fail and they needed to fix it.

@@zummo61 Wow! How can anyone know this???!!!!

Enphasis on MARE. MARE y uhn.

The original Jeff looked more intimidating because of the cab scene. If you rewatch the scene when he speaks to Gene in the mall you can tell he’s pretty goofy. I don’t think this will be the last we see of Jeff but I though it made sense.

@@Brandon_QFG No way. The “say it” increasingly more demanding sounding was super sinister and intimidating in S5!! No argument whatsoever!! This recast was a huge misstep; they should’ve called an audible when the actor couldn’t do it. I mean fuck, guys.

Yeah, the fact that he was also caught up so much with his work passionately, shows that something in changed his mindest. We saw him constantly distracted from work, for reasons like paranoia but this time he even forgot that he had a break, he even had a genuine smile, which we never saw with Gene.

@@jackanapezz He finally made peace with himself and deal with the cards he was given A perfect setup for something to disrupt his mundane life permanently because this universe just won’t let anyone walk away unpunished (plus Howard deserves justice). A calm before the storm and I guess that storm could be a person named KW.

@@nont18411 Agreed. I think his punishment might be the fact that he can't return to his old life, more specifically he can't be back with Kim. I think we will see a reunion with Jimmy and Kim. However Kim has a new life now and can't go back. As a punishment, she might now have a low paying job where she works at a market that she mentioned to Rich and maybe she might even be married and has kids, thus making her uncapable to be with Jimmy again. It's probably going to be more justifying but just a thought.

@@jackanapezz For me, I think some of them deserves jail time, mostly Jimmy. Because he committed so much sins and had been evading the law for a long time. Him getting away with it, albeit living a mundane life, doesn’t seem like justice because so many people died and suffered thanks to his endeavour and if he never got in jail, it means that Hank spent the entire course of show investigating Heisenberg and died for nothing because there is a totality of ZERO person in Heisenberg operation who got in jail. About Kim, I think Cliff and Cheryl deserve to know the truth what she did to Howard (actually both Jimmy and Kim but mostly Kim) and she needs to get punished in some form…legally. Contrary to popular belief, I don’t think Kim deserves to live happily ever after with her new husband and kids.

​@@nont18411 We can also look at it as, Jimmy has always hated himself because his brother never loved and respected him thus Jimmy is a character born out of Greek tragedy where he will constantly try to destroy anything good he tries to do in a recurring Sisyphusian nightmare because he is under the thumb of what Chuck thinks of him. I think this is why Jimmy has all these persona's because he cant be "himself". Perhaps that is punishment enough and perhaps Jimmy accepting himself in the end could be his road to redemption. I know its not popular but I dont blame Howards death on Jimmy (or Kim) although it was Kim who certainly pushed for this but in the end it was happenstance. They were indirectly responsible but they didnt plot to kill him... We "could" say that if Howard doesnt send Kim down to filing and condescendingly attack her for her choice of being with Jimmy than Kim wouldnt have acted with such ferocity in her attempt to ruin him. So Howard too created his own fate... We all do. Its Action/Reaction. And in the end we all end up based on the choices we make. It may be sad or tragic but it is life... Just my 2 cents. What a wonderful show though no matter how it turns out.We can also look at it as, Jimmy has always hated himself because his brother never loved and respected him thus Jimmy is a character born out of Greek tragedy where he will constantly try to destroy anything good he tries to do in a recurring Sisyphusian nightmare because he is under the thumb of what Chuck thinks of him. I think this is why Jimmy has all these persona's because he cant be "himself". Perhaps that is punishment enough and perhaps Jimmy accepting himself in the end could be his road to redemption. I know its not popular but I dont blame Howards death on Jimmy (or Kim) although it was Kim who certainly pushed for this but in the end it was happenstance. They were indirectly responsible but they didnt plot to kill him... We "could" say that if Howard doesnt send Kim down to filing and condescendingly attack her for her choice of being with Jimmy than Kim wouldnt have acted with such ferocity in her attempt to ruin him. So Howard too created his own fate... We all do. Its Action/Reaction. And in the end we all end up based on the choices we make. It may be sad or tragic but it is life... Just my 2 cents. What a wonderful show though no matter how it turns out.