Generac Generator Installation Part 1 | Clark, NJ

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Electrician Ron

Electrician Ron

Күн бұрын

In this video you’ll see how a whole house automatic transfer switch is installed. See how the wiring from the existing 200A Main Breaker panel gets rewired and grounded properly when a generator is connected to the electrical system. This is part one so come back shortly to see how the generator gets wired and is installed.
Permits and Inspections are required for this work. Check with your local building department and utility company before doing anything you see in this video. Electrical work is not a hobby.
Classic Electric, LLC | Point Pleasant, New Jersey 08742
License # 16557
732-770-1437
Classic Electric uses mostly Milwaukee cordless tools, Klein tools, some Dewalt, and some Makita.
Camera: Go Pro 10
Editing software: Apple iMovie
Animation software: Apple Keynote
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@marshred
@marshred 11 ай бұрын
I just completed my 5th install of a Generac Standby generator. First was in 2005, a Guardian Plus 15kw, right after Hurricane Rita hit us. I actually installed it temporarily at one location and then at its permanent location. Since then I have installed 3 of the newer 22kw Guardians with the whole house switch. They are not difficult to install if you have a very good understanding of residential electric service, the NEC parts that apply and what your local utility co. likes. The last two included complete service replacement with the Generator install. I have pulled the permits and been Green Tagged every time without issue.
@camilo8cheryl
@camilo8cheryl 8 ай бұрын
Can i pull a permit even though im not an electrician or plumber? Im a licensed hvac tech, i do gas lines for furnace and electrical jobs on outdoor condenser.. i want to install my own generator.
@marshred
@marshred 8 ай бұрын
Where I live a Homeowner can pull a permit and do work to their own property. You will have to ask in your town/county. My FIL had a plumber come run a gas line last week for a stove and he commented on my install... He said its the best he's seen, even better than the Gen Dealers. Your elec co. should have a service diagram showing what they want/require. Get that so they are satisfied, as they are the last to check your work before connecting. Be aware of the bonding jumper inside the transfer switch, as that is now the First Panel! You will un-bond the original service panel to separate your Neutrals and Ground and possibly have to move wires to each bar for correct connections. Your original panel may have just a screw to remove to separate or a Jumper. If you don't have separate n/g bus bars, you will have to add one. Just fully understand the bonding at the first panel and the separation of all neutral and grounds downstream of that!!!! @@camilo8cheryl
@richardleesparks6694
@richardleesparks6694 4 ай бұрын
As always, appreciate the time and effort you take to film, edit, and share Ron. I’m hoping to upgrade my service and install my new Generac when the weather changes. Cheers from Michigan.
@renatocosta811
@renatocosta811 11 ай бұрын
We have used the kzfaq.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
@monsooncaps6741
@monsooncaps6741 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. You’re a stud!
@thehandyoutdoorsman9014
@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын
I am a low voltage installer (Data/Voice/Video) and appreciate your attention to detail in labeling all of your conductors with the appropriate conductor color tape. Some might consider over kill, however I see you treat it as standard. Great video!! Earned a sub!
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here. Glad you you liked the video!
@jamiearellano8903
@jamiearellano8903 Жыл бұрын
Hi,many of your low voltage works whit low capacity in the attic's wires everywhere in front of Furnance,lights,ladders,etc.
@user-by9zy4ey6w
@user-by9zy4ey6w 5 ай бұрын
Que calibre de cobre debo usar desde el generador hasta el Transfer para 200 amperes? A 30 ‘ de distancia
@jonomtb777
@jonomtb777 Жыл бұрын
Dude this video rocks! Much love from this VA sparky!🤘🏻
@ElectricRob
@ElectricRob 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for filming your installs, Ron! I know it takes a lot of extra time and effort, especially since you are under a time limit of getting this done in a single visit. And great to see a quality install.
@electricalron
@electricalron 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob - I really appreciate the feedback.
@Spinonemaster
@Spinonemaster 14 күн бұрын
Grew up in Westfield ... Clark was part of out stomping grounds as I live close to border ... in PA now but miss the old White Diamond for burgers or eggs for breakfast ... nice job
@gordonkinslow8385
@gordonkinslow8385 Жыл бұрын
Nice work and well explained
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@rgmatta3524
@rgmatta3524 Жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@valeriikolsenikovich4574
@valeriikolsenikovich4574 Жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@ousmanfadera8310
@ousmanfadera8310 Жыл бұрын
Amazing and credible
@dalewcjr
@dalewcjr Жыл бұрын
Nice Job
@kennethpayne7547
@kennethpayne7547 Жыл бұрын
A quick question, I had a Generac 16KW whole house generator from 2008-2015 that broke. What I would like to do is use the Generac transfer switch Attached to my home and still wired up, to supply power from a tri-fuel Firman generator. Will it shut down the grid power still when electricity is off, or will I need to somehow shut down the grid power manually while the generator runs. Thank you for your help.
@ptrollan
@ptrollan Жыл бұрын
good job !!!!!!!!
@theadmiral08701
@theadmiral08701 8 ай бұрын
Generac, in their instructions disallow the installation of conduit on the ATS when installed outdoors You also need to torque your terminations
@SeanLeonDrumz
@SeanLeonDrumz Жыл бұрын
How did you support the 2 inch with the 2 LBs coming out of the ATS?
@salvenezia1817
@salvenezia1817 Жыл бұрын
What gauge wire did you uses for the transfer switch and panel. And what wire size for the generator to transfer switch. 4/0 and 2 gauge or 1gauge
@fishyboy10952
@fishyboy10952 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work! I see that you had pulled the 2 grounding conductors from the panel box to the ATS. Is that required or did you just do it for any other reason?
@electricalron
@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын
Those are the grounding electrode conductors and they’re relocated to the ATS because it becomes the main disconnect. All bonding is done in the main disconnect.
@BrianWelch22
@BrianWelch22 Жыл бұрын
I have to do this now in MA lol gotta hurry before it gets cold
@waterboy74
@waterboy74 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. What’s the black material that you put behind the washers/mounting screws in the ATS?
@electricalron
@electricalron 11 ай бұрын
It’s called duct seal.
@CryptoiNNERG
@CryptoiNNERG 2 жыл бұрын
Very good
@electricalron
@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!
@speednutsII
@speednutsII Жыл бұрын
Great work. I’m not an electrician but I’ve learned quite a bit/done my own inspected electrical work. Recently I upgraded my service from 100 to 200 amps. The inspector did not make me put in an outside disconnect as I did not move or change the meter (luckily the underground service and meter was rated for 200 amps already). My question for you is if I installed an outside transfer switch, would this also act as a means of disconnect as stated in the 2020 code? Thanks, I appreciate it.
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
It sure would!
@speednutsII
@speednutsII Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for replying.
@rtheprizeisright7323
@rtheprizeisright7323 2 жыл бұрын
Do you do any Solar hook up work? like transfer to batteries, and inverters all that stuff, just wondering?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@ED-uk6lv
@ED-uk6lv 8 ай бұрын
Thank you again for the videos. I have learned a lot of ideas from your videos. I’m starting to do more Generator installations. How much was this installation labor/ material/generator and transfer switch. In your area. In my prices are all over the place. Thank you again. Also do you also provide maintenance for the generator. Would like to learn your opinion on that.
@electricalron
@electricalron 8 ай бұрын
The generator comes as a package with the transfer switch. So it with the labor and all the other materials included anywhere from $12,000.00-$17,000.00. Permits are normally a line item that are not included because each town has different rates for permits.
@davidm2645
@davidm2645 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video! I did notice that you did not use a conductive paste on the major connections. I heard that code did away with that requirement...is that true?
@jeff-w
@jeff-w Жыл бұрын
That's a bigger concern for aluminum conductors. He's using copper.
@DeepakSingh-lm8hl
@DeepakSingh-lm8hl Жыл бұрын
Would you please tell me the wire size between meter to ATS and ATS to main panel? I love your videos. Very knowledgeable
@ronpecinajr
@ronpecinajr Жыл бұрын
4/0 Aluminum or 2/0 Copper would suffice for 200 amps at a single-family dwelling.
@daidegoat
@daidegoat Жыл бұрын
Another great video. I'm learning a lot from you. Where can I get a stripper like the one you use on the feeder wires?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
The "feeder" wires are called Service Entrance Conductors. If you're an electrician this is important to know the difference because SERVICE conductors are much different than FEEDER conductors. The tool is made by Klein Tools and and can be found on Home Depot.com or on the HD app.
@daidegoat
@daidegoat Жыл бұрын
@@electricalron Thank you for the lesson on proper names of the wires. One can't get sloppy with electricity.
@godelrt
@godelrt Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, So both of the grounding electrode conductors from the water pipe and from ground rods need to be taken out of what was a main panel and now they need to go into the ATS which is the first disconnect ? They can’t just stay in the old panel? And these here are #4 copper for the 200amp service? Then you run a new #4 copper ground from the ATS to now a sub panel. Did I get that right? Thanks a lot for great videos!
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Yes, the water pipe and ground bars are called grounding electrode conductors. Both of them get relocated to the automatic transfer switch since it becomes the new main disconnect. The #4 copper from the transfer switch to the distribution panel is known as the equipment grounding conductor and is sized for 200 amps.
@amoncopeland6747
@amoncopeland6747 10 ай бұрын
You can get an irreversible crimp and extend the GEC @@electricalron
@hrd1992
@hrd1992 Жыл бұрын
whats is the model number of the ats used? i am trying to hook up a single phase 120v 6.5KW solar inverter with a generac ATS to switch btw solar (primary) and grid.
@im2yys4u81
@im2yys4u81 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Generac RTSY200A3, but this is a 200 amp automatic transfer switch (ATS). I'm not sure you need a 200 amp xfer switch for 6.5kw. You could probably get by with a 100 amp.
@rupe53
@rupe53 Жыл бұрын
@@im2yys4u81 ... he would need a switch rated for whatever the grid feed is. IOW, 200 amp service will require a 200 amp TS. The odd thing about the Generac switch is there's no built-in logic. There's a 12 volt coil / relay that needs external signaling to provide transfer to standby power. In his case it looks as if solar is the primary so might be reversed from normal. An Asco switch (higher cost) has logic built in so will follow the power. Not sure what he would use to signal transfer in either case.
@gettinitstarted
@gettinitstarted Жыл бұрын
You have the grounding electrode conductor the ground and from the MDP where does the 3rd ground come from
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Water main GEC, ground rods GEC, and the EGC to the distribution panel.
@AO2007US
@AO2007US Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it necessary to have a disconnect/ shut off switch between the generator and the ATS?
@ElectricRob
@ElectricRob 10 ай бұрын
The generator typically comes with its own output circuit breaker, which would serve as the disconnect you refer to, and protects the feed to the ATS.
@richardwalke2511
@richardwalke2511 Жыл бұрын
Can you use this ATS with solar? Solar being primary power and utility as backup.
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@OneRJRhodes
@OneRJRhodes 3 ай бұрын
Does this transfer switch have breakers. How do you determine which breakers you will have on and which you will not
@ed6837
@ed6837 2 ай бұрын
Haven't done a Generac ATS. Is there a bonding jumper to bond the neutral bar in the ATS because that is now the main disconnect? Correct?
@electricalron
@electricalron 2 ай бұрын
Yes. This ATS is service-rated.
@350FMC
@350FMC 10 ай бұрын
I always use a meyers hub on top of exterior cabinets. They let that go by you?
@amoncopeland6747
@amoncopeland6747 10 ай бұрын
Lots of people say that..But I pass all day long without them
@virgilsmith5792
@virgilsmith5792 Жыл бұрын
do you have a video on how to connect the spd1 to the transfer switch?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
A type 1 SURGE PROTECTIVE DEVICE would be connected to the line side of the service. I imagine N1 & N2 would be suffice but I’d have to check if those terminals are rated for more than one conductor. I normally install type 2 SPD’s and they are placed in the main distribution panel.
@robertcherry4971
@robertcherry4971 8 ай бұрын
Ron, I am performing my very first stand by generator /Transfer panel/switch installation. My concern and question is after delivery at site,I will need to move into position . What are some good options ? What methods do you most often use? Thank you Ron….
@electricalron
@electricalron 8 ай бұрын
Generac cart
@mcarroll598
@mcarroll598 2 жыл бұрын
Question, do you torque any of your connections? I’ve never seen someone use a impact drill on mechanical lugs and never check it with a torque wrench?!
@electricalron
@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a code in the NEC but no one is enforcing it here.
@mcarroll598
@mcarroll598 2 жыл бұрын
@@electricalron wow. How do you know you have adequate pressure on terminations?
@iqvoice
@iqvoice 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcarroll598 chances are good that the impact wrench is going to put a helluva lot more torque on the bolt than what you can do with your arm + a wrench.
@im2yys4u81
@im2yys4u81 Жыл бұрын
The torque specs are in the install manual, and there is a sticker in the vicinity of the lugs inside the transfer switch. I NEVER do an install without torqueing the lugs.
@seymourscagnetti1413
@seymourscagnetti1413 2 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@electricalron
@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын
Part two coming up. I’m finishing and starting up the generator this Tuesday!
@solarandwindinsouthtexasda1473
@solarandwindinsouthtexasda1473 Жыл бұрын
My transfer is 1/2 the the size of that one and I don’t have the breaker inside so for me to be able to start it at my house. I had to change the meter box to a meter box with the breaker.
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
This ATS does the whole house
@solarandwindinsouthtexasda1473
@solarandwindinsouthtexasda1473 Жыл бұрын
@@electricalron mine does too but mine didn’t come with the 150amp breaker sow to be installed the meter box has to have the breaker
@patriotone755
@patriotone755 Жыл бұрын
Why no NoOx used to avoid oxidation of conductor exposed wire?
@edisont.picard4112
@edisont.picard4112 Жыл бұрын
Because it's copper.
@MC-ig8cm
@MC-ig8cm 9 ай бұрын
Ron I have 100 amp panel can a 200 amp automatic transfer switch be used for my 22KW generator?
@electricalron
@electricalron 9 ай бұрын
No, because the feeder to the panel isn’t rated for 200 amps. The ATS becomes the main breaker and protects the conductors to the panel. Time to update the panel to 200 amps.
@iqvoice
@iqvoice 2 жыл бұрын
Was the meter box still hot, or was it disconnected at the street?
@electricalron
@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын
Meter is hot.
@iqvoice
@iqvoice 2 жыл бұрын
@@electricalron i thought it looked like you were being extra careful in there
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
@@iqvoice That's idea
@kentbassler5037
@kentbassler5037 10 ай бұрын
RON I didn't see you use any Nolox on the conductors? Maybe I missed it.
@amoncopeland6747
@amoncopeland6747 10 ай бұрын
No need
@TCPLY
@TCPLY 5 ай бұрын
Why no grease on wires at connections?
@tamarali5666
@tamarali5666 Жыл бұрын
Can I repost ??
@ZachTate
@ZachTate 15 күн бұрын
How much do you charge to install the transfer switch only?
@electricalron
@electricalron 15 күн бұрын
@@ZachTate installing the transfer switch only requires rewiring the distribution panel and reconfiguring the meter wiring. It’s a lot of work. $3500 ballpark.
@jeancurry8375
@jeancurry8375 Жыл бұрын
Where is your control wiring? I have seen two of your videos doing the install but I don't see you connect the control wiring,
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
The control wiring is T1, N1, N2, 194, 23, and 0. They connect from the transfer switch to the generator.
@Chevy2U
@Chevy2U Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff, if only so called electricians could emulate your craftmanship.
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That's very nice of you to say. Experience is everything.
@jak50cent
@jak50cent Жыл бұрын
I guy that I used to work with in New York would run the grounding conductor through a half inch Rome romex connector
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Wtf is a “half in Rome” connector?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
@@jak50cent on
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Ok
@calvingeppert4560
@calvingeppert4560 Жыл бұрын
Why were you able to crimp the GEC?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Because it needed to be extended.
@rtheprizeisright7323
@rtheprizeisright7323 2 жыл бұрын
is that a Klein tools knee mat or code book, lol
@BrianWelch22
@BrianWelch22 Жыл бұрын
if you don't mind me asking what was the total for this job you charged>?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
This was like $12k I think.
@BrianWelch22
@BrianWelch22 Жыл бұрын
@@electricalron nice , did this include the cost of the generator?
@BrianWelch22
@BrianWelch22 Жыл бұрын
also I was wondering with the generator wire you used how come it was a #2 AL instead of a 4/0AL if it was sized for 200 amp service?
@ericjorgensen4826
@ericjorgensen4826 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianWelch22 It is sized for the capacity of the generator, which is only good for about ~75 amps. There is a breaker in the generator set to protect the wire. Most houses with 200 amp service do not draw anywhere near 200 amps. If there is a high amp load, it would need a load shed device to turn it off when operating on the generator.
@rtheprizeisright7323
@rtheprizeisright7323 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a Murray in a very long time I think I had an issue getting itt o completely shut off, lol Although I didn't think it was funny at the time.
@rtheprizeisright7323
@rtheprizeisright7323 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, I should sent you a pic, of my cable lines, the local cable company came in, when they installed theirs, and cut all the dish service lines. And just let them there, stuck to the wall, I'm afraid to move them. And there is 2 satellite dishes in my back yard, to face the southwestern sky, they are like 40 ft down in my yard, and they never get rid of them. It's absurd they aren't fined for the leaving of the equipment.
@NickGonsalves
@NickGonsalves Жыл бұрын
Cable companies are not allowed to touch any other companies equipment outside of disconnecting it.
@rtheprizeisright7323
@rtheprizeisright7323 Жыл бұрын
@@NickGonsalves omg that's crazy they literally came into my house and I was watching them (I'm an electrician by trade) so any wiring interests me. but when I seen that I was like soo you gunna pull all that out..(i Knew the answer) He said no they tell us to cut any old cable wire out. But it's funny b/c I have 2 dishes in my yard and the wires were hooked up to them and they cut them at the enterance to the house and 5 or 6 places in the house. We do have a terrible cable company here, their internet is great super fast, but if you call down there they are terrible in the office. My daughter house burnt down a few years ago along with the whole block. She eventually bought a house on the same block but across the street. They told my daughter they wouldn't give her new service until she returned the old box. That box was melted in the fire. She had to pay a $250 deposit on a new box to get service b/c they have a monopoly here in this part of the state.
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Cable tv companies are the worst. Unfortunately a lot of those workers have little to no training. Around here the cable companies do not allow them to snake cables inside the wall so they are forced to run everything on the surface which as you know looks very sloppy.
@rtheprizeisright7323
@rtheprizeisright7323 Жыл бұрын
@@electricalron Yes you are right I've talked to a few of the better 1's I've had through the years. They get no training at all.
@rtheprizeisright7323
@rtheprizeisright7323 Жыл бұрын
Is there anyway I can PM with an electrical question? it's just electrical theory, not how to install something, I can't remember the correct terminology, from 32 years ago. And I know I'm right, on a question, I think I just worded, the answer incorrectly. I also, do private writing, like trying to write books and stuff and it troubles me when I can't word something correctly. And Don't worry, it's also not a how to book on electrical work, believe me, I would cite your contribution, there as you have been so courteous and professional here. If not, no worries, my friend, either way, you have a good day and thanks, always for your great videos.
@ciciedee5474
@ciciedee5474 Жыл бұрын
As someone who shares the name, is that orange cable UV resistant
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
That cable is everything, including rated for direct burial.
@Bob-cx4ze
@Bob-cx4ze 13 күн бұрын
Klein makes a kneeler? Who knew.
@user-sq5zg3ys5k
@user-sq5zg3ys5k 8 ай бұрын
Great job! One comment & one question comment never ever use an impact driver to tighten lugs in a meter base if you break the guts you have added a lot of problem to that job. Question why did you use plastic bushing's on PVC? Material & time =$$.
@electricalron
@electricalron 8 ай бұрын
It’s an NEC requirement for conductors larger than #4 AWG. Going back to install them after a failed inspection means time a lost revenue/ profit.
@user-sq5zg3ys5k
@user-sq5zg3ys5k 8 ай бұрын
@@electricalron Thanks for your response been retired a few years. I think that's your local inspectors being Richard's. I challenged that bull a few years ago and all the inspector could come up with at that time was must be used on threaded pipe when conductors are #4 or larger. I think that is still be debated in some places.
@electricalron
@electricalron 8 ай бұрын
@@user-sq5zg3ys5k I consider bushings that prevent abrasion of the conductors is super important and inspectors should point out the violation if applicable.
@mofbombay6290
@mofbombay6290 Жыл бұрын
What is service rated ?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
A piece of equipment rated to be used as service equipment.
@ElectricRob
@ElectricRob 10 ай бұрын
Yes, and has that capability of "bonding" the neutral to ground (which is that green jumper wire between the ground bus at top and the neutral bus partway down).
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 Жыл бұрын
Generac is the only way to go for whole house backup my neighbor wired up a small transfer switch having to pull bunch of small circuits over to it and bought a portable generator. Now he is complaining can't run his AC adding a small AC to a bedroom. Would have been same price to just install what a Generac IMO. He also built an enclosure for his 7500 Watt portable.
@GoProGuy17
@GoProGuy17 3 ай бұрын
great video. 2 questions, i know you said 1 green conductor went to ground rods. what did the other ground go to, Was it a cold water bond? 2nd question, since you now have your ground and neutral bonded in the ATS, did you separate your ground and neutral bar in your panel? Thanks!
@frankspliff7037
@frankspliff7037 Жыл бұрын
You need Milwaukee cordless cable cutter
@joebidon7165
@joebidon7165 Жыл бұрын
Question for you; my generator and housing is grounded through my service but there’s a grounding lug on the generator housing. Do I need to ground the casing?
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
No. The lug on the generator is for use ONLY when the generator is being used as a separately derived system.
@joebidon7165
@joebidon7165 Жыл бұрын
@@electricalron thanks, that’s what I thought. Have a happy Easter!
@ausseamore8386
@ausseamore8386 Жыл бұрын
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