GENERAL CONFERENCE AS AN EX MORMON

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Zelph On the Shelf

Zelph On the Shelf

5 жыл бұрын

We sat down and had a little chat about general conference, and what it's like as an ex-Mormon.
Do you guys like these informal, chattier videos with less structure? Let us know!
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@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 5 жыл бұрын
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@coltenboyd7488
@coltenboyd7488 5 жыл бұрын
I Second This
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
Oh what so you can raise some funds? You have a long way to go to compete with Joseph's trillion dollar corporation. You poor peasants.
@suem6004
@suem6004 5 жыл бұрын
Zelph On the Shelf So you scam the peasants for money? Haha then criticize the church for its assets? Funny!! Haha
@coltenboyd7488
@coltenboyd7488 5 жыл бұрын
Sue M I mean, they don’t scam because they are very clear on where money goes. They are very clear that Patreon’s help them to have the ability to make more content. I personally feel that a couple dollars a month for content I legitimately enjoy is a way better deal then 10% of my income for the rest of my life to an organization that is as questionable and hurtful as the LDS church. Or any church for that matter. Just saying. But you are entitled to your opinion. Just know, it isn’t a scam.
@suem6004
@suem6004 5 жыл бұрын
Colten Boyd The church does not pocket money for selfish reasons. Church actually builds churches and temples... you know God centered stuff.
@user-hn1zb9rk4h
@user-hn1zb9rk4h 5 жыл бұрын
12:59 "It's still very psychologically disturbing for me to know my family is all gathered around the tv listening to old people who think it's better for me to be dead than to be myself" that disassociation is fundamental
@freemandiaz5123
@freemandiaz5123 5 жыл бұрын
Respect for my ex-mo friends. Must be hard to leave the entire culture.
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
Leave the culture? They spend half their lives engaged in it still.
@Questioner365
@Questioner365 5 жыл бұрын
Correction, all: You can leave the Cult but you cant' leave the "Cult-ture" alone.
@freemandiaz5123
@freemandiaz5123 5 жыл бұрын
Each day there is something church related. When you go to be married, you are asked, "where did you serve?" Your worth is determined by your resume of callings. The temple interview questions force one to lie. I have never been LDS, but I know that I am not worthy of the gift of salvation. There is no calling, no ordinance that I can do, no recommend card, no firm testimony given that can make me worthy. My worth was determined when The Messiah died on the cross that the LDS deny.
@freemandiaz5123
@freemandiaz5123 5 жыл бұрын
@@Questioner365 Funny that I make the sign of the cross and I'm not even Catholic anymore. This is why BIC is so dangerous.
@benzun9600
@benzun9600 5 жыл бұрын
Its so hard to leave the church you have to make videos about it! LoL. Someone kind of unwritten rule with the ex mormon cultists you have to make videos on KZfaq..
@anonymeg1859
@anonymeg1859 5 жыл бұрын
“Listening to a bunch of old people who would rather me be dead than be me.” You guys I love how lighthearted this video is but this line hit me so hard. I am/was? (Still don’t know how to say this) a convert to the church at 19. I went on a mission at 21 and had such an awful experience that it took me a year after being home to step away from the church. And that was because I was literally planning my own suicide out of the guilt I felt of not being enough. I’m in a better place now, a year away from church, but I still suffer from extreme anxiety and depression that started on my mission. Today this video brought me comfort knowing that I’m not completely alone. Thank you. 💘
@25MK
@25MK 5 жыл бұрын
If it's not too personal, could you do a video about being an ex-mormon and the law of chastity? It's such a heavily weighted aspect of the LDS faith, so when a person leaves, it's difficult to deprogram what's right and what's wrong. And it can seriously affect new relationships or self-identity/ self-esteem. I love your channel by the way. Thanks for everything and keep up the good work!
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet 3 жыл бұрын
This is an old comment but I had the same problem. It took years of therapy. But you have to research religious sexual shaming in order to help yourself.
@flowwithchlo
@flowwithchlo 5 жыл бұрын
I was so shocked when I accidentally pulled up to my parents house during the Saturday session and I walked in the house and they were all sitting there watching conference, and they didn't even mention one thing to me. They didn't try and get me to watch, they didnt try and guilt me into watching or even tell me what Spiritual insights they learned from the conference. Major progress here👏👏
@morgan_drui
@morgan_drui 5 жыл бұрын
Why not start a ex Mormon conference.
@user-vb2sp2ci4l
@user-vb2sp2ci4l 5 жыл бұрын
Why start something like that against General conference when it's such a reverent and friendly meeting for a good cause to spread messages of happiness? :/
@user-hn1zb9rk4h
@user-hn1zb9rk4h 5 жыл бұрын
Sunstone Symposium ..i think is what it is called. they are the ones who leaked that the general authorities in a pri ate meeting declared Feminists, Gays and Intellectuals the enemies of the church... in the early 90's
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah you could probably get all 400 people to watch. I'm sure it would be great.
@poerava
@poerava 5 жыл бұрын
Parody’s of the general conference would be fun
@morgan_drui
@morgan_drui 4 жыл бұрын
Samael51760 but with weed and beer.
@marysimpson8693
@marysimpson8693 5 жыл бұрын
My family is hella indoctrinated and we literally can’t even have them a discussion because everything I say against their church is a personal attack against them 🙄
@rubyrich9806
@rubyrich9806 5 жыл бұрын
Luna Simpson same girl, my mom cries any time I express my personal beliefs no matter how diplomatic I am
@macercan
@macercan 5 жыл бұрын
Truth defender, why was that necessary? Seriously?😂 Luna I totally can relate. If I say anything to my parents that does not follow their beliefs, they simply do not want to hear it. They legitimately freak out. It’s so frustrating.
@poerava
@poerava 5 жыл бұрын
Luna Simpson Send them this: Why we believe in gods - Andy Thomson kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q62jqM18zsqyeac.html
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet 3 жыл бұрын
It's a serious problem when someone can't separate themselves from their church
@beingearnest123
@beingearnest123 5 жыл бұрын
what the eff is in the water you two are drinking because I swear you get hotter every day? Also, great vid.
@sk8er_90
@sk8er_90 5 жыл бұрын
beingearnest123 they’re def beautiful lol
@rachelguerra4845
@rachelguerra4845 5 жыл бұрын
I went and got my first tattoo on general conference weekend lol
@cass_p
@cass_p 5 жыл бұрын
Confession time: I do finger guns back at Tanner at the end of the videos.
@tbsrevolver131
@tbsrevolver131 5 жыл бұрын
I’m doing a deep clean of my house and taking things to charity instead of watching conference.
@tbsrevolver131
@tbsrevolver131 5 жыл бұрын
Ha that crossed my mind at times with how much needed to be done.
@eiraonsee2202
@eiraonsee2202 5 жыл бұрын
@Truth Defender wouldn't that be very impratical
@moldylasagna3778
@moldylasagna3778 5 жыл бұрын
im watching this video as both my parents in the other room are watching conference,,,, f
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for telling us as if we care.
@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704
@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you're doing that stealthily - keep it up!
@pinkydinky5480
@pinkydinky5480 5 жыл бұрын
Last general conference I had a mental breakdown. My mom said that she didn't force me, and that she didn't understand why I was so upset. I told her that it was because I was bisexual. And how the church won't accept me for who I am. I am being forced to watch this time. But I'm trying to make the most of it by drawing the whole time.
@moistcrocs3498
@moistcrocs3498 5 жыл бұрын
Pinky Dinky me too broski, stay strong, make it out 💙
@suzieq1218
@suzieq1218 5 жыл бұрын
Pinky Dinky Be true to yourself. Leave that cult as soon as you can. Go be among people who do love you and accept you for who you are. It's unfortunate your mom won't support you. Be strong. You got this.
@poerava
@poerava 5 жыл бұрын
Pinky Dinky quitmormon.com/ You are free. Have the courage to follow your heart 💓
@lynnsiealbs4372
@lynnsiealbs4372 5 жыл бұрын
I’m going to lose my s h i t if the coffee/tea ban is lifted. I LOVE coffee, and I still live with my LDS family members, and they hang this over my head CONSTANTLY. I HAVE TO MAKE MY COFFEE OUTSIDE OR AT WORK, NEVER INSIDE THE HOUSE. I am so infuriated just hearing these rumors lol.
@pamelavisconage7256
@pamelavisconage7256 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your awesome candor! I was a Christian who fell into the cult of Mormonism for 14 years. My hope for you is that you someday choose study the true Christ - you are right. There should be total freedom in Christ not Mormonism’s total f’ing bondage. I’m sad when Mormons leave the church, they are so wounded they give up true Christianity. Keep up the great posts.
@pamelavisconage7256
@pamelavisconage7256 5 жыл бұрын
Oh btw. I’m now a Presbyterian female minister!
@WolfGirlTsukira
@WolfGirlTsukira 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have any Mormon family, but the people that still talk to me from the Mormon church always "invite me to conference because they don't want me to be denied the blessing". I stay home, drink beer and watch R rated movies instead XD
@oliviaharmer7300
@oliviaharmer7300 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of watching general conf I went to a Buddhist church in salt lake!
@kadynadair592
@kadynadair592 5 жыл бұрын
I’m going to a pride festival on Sunday instead of watching conference! My parents know about a festival but they don’t know it’s for pride
@bailielohman3967
@bailielohman3967 5 жыл бұрын
“Hit yourself with a hammer, whatever it takes.” Oh Tanner 😂 relatable
@anthonycahoon791
@anthonycahoon791 5 жыл бұрын
“That woman is now the bishop!” Omfg I can’t handle y’all 😂 😂
@NewNameNoah
@NewNameNoah 5 жыл бұрын
Love your smiling faces, Sam & Tanner. 😘
@ironmountain7907
@ironmountain7907 5 жыл бұрын
NewNameNoah thank you for your channel! It’s awesome how you expose the LDS cult like behaviors.
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
At least Joseph didn't regret anything he did in his life. Must be hard to live with the first 20 years of your life Mike. You seem to be obsessed with Joseph. He was a pretty good guy. You can't seem to muster 1/1,000,000 of the followers that Joseph did.
@ironmountain7907
@ironmountain7907 5 жыл бұрын
@@porterrockwell7322 what a great guy, having sex with 14 year olds and translating a holy book with a rock in a hat. Read some church history ya moron, it's obvious he was a fraud.
@Questioner365
@Questioner365 5 жыл бұрын
@@porterrockwell7322 you're still the same old dried up prune and bully after 200 years. Mormon Jeezus still needs all the bullies he can get, huh!
@coltenboyd7488
@coltenboyd7488 5 жыл бұрын
Truth Defender is this the Christian way? On our day of the lord? :O
@tmofvb7653
@tmofvb7653 5 жыл бұрын
This was the first year my mom didn't ask if I was coming home to watch with the family! #blessed
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
She probably doesn't want you in the family anymore.
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
#blessed
@paulbrodie331
@paulbrodie331 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first conference since I declared my “apostasy”. Watched the morning and afternoon sessions at home with my wife and kids. The judgmental tone against doubters and non believers really stood out to me. I don’t take things personally, but if I did I think I would be offended. I feel like they talk more about policy and procedure than Jesus, which isn’t new to me. That has been a beef of mine for years before my apostasy was declared. Yesterday was the first priesthood session I didn’t need a fake emergency to avoid. So that was nice. I hope they okay coffee and tea, how could anyone not question that?
@cecileckels1156
@cecileckels1156 5 жыл бұрын
i’m watching mostly because i live with my mom, but little does she know i have a bunch of homework, headphones, and a stubborn ass mind that refuses to listen to conference
@htobler
@htobler 5 жыл бұрын
Go girl
@cecileckels1156
@cecileckels1156 5 жыл бұрын
im a dude but thanks
@shiraiterra
@shiraiterra 5 жыл бұрын
Dude! Ace that homework! Sending you good vibes.
@hammajam15
@hammajam15 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of watching my husband and I will be going to our local farmer's market that opens for the season today and getting Vegan Indian food at our favorite restaurant. Super interested to see if they change the rules on tea and coffee though!
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 5 жыл бұрын
Hannah Ramirez sounds like a perfect day!
@redbeforedawn4170
@redbeforedawn4170 5 жыл бұрын
guess who’s getting forced to watch general conference!!!
@angietyndall7337
@angietyndall7337 5 жыл бұрын
@ Logan Lyric No one should be forced. Rather it should be do you want to? When people force others to do things freedom is anulled whether it is by one, many;organizations, or creed, etc. Tell them you prefer not to and that you have your free agency. I mean if you want to great, but if not then, they need to respect that. Jesus does not force a person to Heaven. He said Chose ye this day...Come follow me, but NOT do it OR else mentality. God Bless!
@shiraiterra
@shiraiterra 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry if you are not old enough to voice your choice. I would draw in a notebook as "taking notes". Hang in there is the best I can muster. And I apologize for that.
@redbeforedawn4170
@redbeforedawn4170 5 жыл бұрын
Angie Tyndall i’d love to be able to have a choice in whether or not i watch conference, but as i’m a minor with very controlling parents, i have little to no say in what i do on a day to day basis
@kokly7802
@kokly7802 5 жыл бұрын
Logan Lyric me too
@Questioner365
@Questioner365 5 жыл бұрын
Logan Lyric, Jesus needs all the bullies he can get to force his plan (Saint'nism)... Gotta force em aallaall, forciMon. Yep, FAIRisees drive kids right out of the church of Saint'n. I'm now glad my inlaws and ex forced my kids while abusing, bullying and acting like FAIRisees, which paid off nicely - drove most of them out. My two active sons have very smart open wives who will catch the lies and contradictions which will most likely wake them up. I was actually super active at the time but would not force or even guilt my kids for going or Not going with me or listening to conference of not. Maybe that actually backfired because that kept 2 kids in the church. I just started seeing too many problems, just from reading the book of Mormon so many times. After 40 or 50 readings you start saying, "Hey, this book is warning against all of these things in Mormonism, esp the top unaccountable double standard leaders who need not be honest in their dealing, sustain Christ or pay their tithing on income/compensation from the trillion dollar corporation of "Christ." Be sure to read the BoM and highlight all the scriptures which testify against today's LDS church practices, and all the scriptures that show how we and our leaders should act. Why are we paying for salvation and focusing on things for show that don't matter - Mormon 8: 32-41? I find David Bokovoy very interesting on the natural fabrication of all scriptures (Mormon Stories episode 1019, on youtube). I find it very interesting to study scripture-writing history and the roots and reasons men (not god) wrote it all. I still find much good from that too despite the garbage mixed in from it all being written and changed by men and not god. This and Mormon history study (not by apologists who justify all that is not of Christ, but ordered by Christ) clarify how men naturally act and what fruits Jesus was saying to watch out for and why he warned against "ravening leaders in fine wool suits" blindly leading (forcing, shaming,threatening, punishing...) the blind into the ditch. The best parts of Jesus in the bible (not in the Gospel of John - loads of very contradictory exaggerated additions to the real Jesus by "John") are great, as Jesus tells us how to stop following men and cults and how to identify their pompous ways, which you must revere, sing hymns to and never question. Some good bible scholars have identified all the best parts of the most likely real Jesus and which parts are from pompous controllers contradicting each other. I like Dr. Bart Ehrman for an intro to this (youtube), though it goes much deeper and can be faith crushing or faith promoting to have all the crap cleared away and just the good parts left and understanding hows it came to be and changed and changed... I actually hated the bible for a while, over finding the truth of how it was actually written and changed, but then I learned that I really like the very different God and Jesus even more now that my eyes were opened to them with their zero guilting, shaming, coercing, punishing, abusing, bullying (Not Good News, Gospel). I now love how Jesus artfully describes the Pharisees (church leaders today too) as dogs, swine, mote pickers, blind guides, whited sepulchers, wolves, vipers, and tells us to examine their actual "fruits" to know the real them and that they are not of him, that the works/fruits that these frauds do in his name and in our father's name to force their own twisted works onto all. Matt 7 and 15 and 23 covers the bulk of these rather credible looking warnings of what and whom are the bad and forcing leaders, which are not promoting his plan of agency, love and good deeds he also spell out. I like the way the real parts of Jesus in the bible written by men describes his and our Father (whom he says we are one with) whom he describes as loving, forgiving, giving and Not at all the angry jealous, genocidal, A-ho.. "god" Satan who dominates much of the old testament after the adoring real godS created us (a couple hundred thousands years ago in the real Garden of Edin in Sumerian/Babylon records from which the bible borrowed heavily, including just one source of the unreal changes to Jesus). I love how Jesus says that angry, genocidal forcing god is the father of those Pharisees who follow, worship and act just like him. All of that seems to fly right over the heads of enforcer "Christians" for some odd reason, as Jesus said it would? I just don't see any church promoting just the good or true parts, real admonitions and warnings without becoming jerks which the real Jesus warned of over and over. Most Christians aren't very Christian, and the Church of Kirton McConkie of Latter day Saint'nism fares no better than any other Pharisaical "Christian" church which the real Jesus deplored (Matt 7: 20-24). He had some very amazing truths which only certain other leaders before him had too - don't let men enslave your mind, only the real truths will set you free from them.
@jessasmith2349
@jessasmith2349 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this hugged a part of my soul that didn't know it needed to be hugged. Thank you.
@n8dizzle25
@n8dizzle25 5 жыл бұрын
I'm LDS but you guy's are hilarious! I love you..on behalf of the"Utah Mormons" I apologize! I hope you two find what you need. Love you guys
@txilor4990
@txilor4990 5 жыл бұрын
my parents are very Mormon, but thank god they don’t force me to watch general conference with them. It gives me a headache. I’m still fairly young and I have a few more years until I can move out but I can’t wait until I do.
@annaejohnson287
@annaejohnson287 5 жыл бұрын
The rumor I’ve heard is 20 month missions for both men and women. Oh and there was a rumor that the prophet spent 3 days in the Mexico City temple without coming out
@GrammyKeena
@GrammyKeena 5 жыл бұрын
So where did he go for his coming out?
@juliasilbiger2434
@juliasilbiger2434 5 жыл бұрын
you guys should do sort of a skype interview with ex mormons! I would LOVE to talk to you about my experience as a exmormon
@myspiritualife
@myspiritualife 5 жыл бұрын
"There's no lower bar for Revelation and Miracles than the Mormon one..." 😂😂😂
@marysimpson8693
@marysimpson8693 5 жыл бұрын
That eyeliner makes tanners eyes pop yass
@anifish84
@anifish84 5 жыл бұрын
My last 3 general conferences on my way out of the church were so horrible... I always like knowing when it’s going on so I can be grateful I’m not attending. Your observations were spot on!
@Applest2oApples
@Applest2oApples 5 жыл бұрын
“That woman is now the bishop” 😂 I’m dead
@nicolafigini784
@nicolafigini784 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Johnson I know! That was brilliant. 🤣
@thehermi
@thehermi 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh General Conference. 4 days out of the year where mormons, guilt-tripped from watching GC reach out those, who have been shunned for leaving. Now, put you in their direct sight and make it their duty to "love you" ahem..chastise you and remind you that your apostasy life is an abomination in gods eyes and return to the fold the true happiness.
@meganmarshall1744
@meganmarshall1744 5 жыл бұрын
I'm an active member and I love the church, but watching you guys is so interesting and fun. I come from an anti family, so I've been on both sides of it and it's nice to be able to relate to both perspectives. You guys are real. You're not "mean" to the active Mormons, yet you can get your points and opinions across. Thank you for not being disrespectful and still sharing how you feel. Love, a mormon that understands the faults in the church and loves God.
@itsmeyourfavoritedisappoin8958
@itsmeyourfavoritedisappoin8958 5 жыл бұрын
if they mention the policy change i swear to god i’m finding the yt live stream and screen recording it
@_KungFuBarbie_
@_KungFuBarbie_ 5 жыл бұрын
I like watching because it helps me sleep.
@tmofvb7653
@tmofvb7653 5 жыл бұрын
Chanceral I feel this.
@tigerlillypearse8831
@tigerlillypearse8831 5 жыл бұрын
True, but I wouldn’t want those words going into my subconscious when I’m sleeping.
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should try drinking antifreeze. I hear that can help you sleep.
@_KungFuBarbie_
@_KungFuBarbie_ 5 жыл бұрын
@Porter Rockwell @Truth Defender Jeez guys calm down
@jonjahr3403
@jonjahr3403 5 жыл бұрын
Hey same reason i liked watching
@thespacebat
@thespacebat 5 жыл бұрын
My ex roommate was pretty hardcore Mormon, I remember coming home one day and him and his current girlfriend were watching it in the living all dressed up like they were actually there. It was awkward because I was just picking some stuff up before going to get drunk with my friends.
@Anniloves21
@Anniloves21 5 жыл бұрын
Watched my first ever part of General Conference today. I will never be a membe3- i just find it fascinating how people buy this stuff. The Talks are all very similar. Brain wash by repeating the same Information
@kourt2469
@kourt2469 5 жыл бұрын
Anniloves21 lol he’s a “truth defender” following Jesus footsteps by trolling people with different views and telling them to go f*** themselves.
@h.r.9563
@h.r.9563 3 жыл бұрын
Next time someone texts you after conference you can totally bring up "ah yes the scheduled revelation talks"
@brendenvoelker2553
@brendenvoelker2553 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to a pride parade instead of conference 😂😂😂😝
@cassied.6731
@cassied.6731 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best, and I immediately wanted to join you rather than go to church. (Not Morman; Baptist church)
@snappa_tv
@snappa_tv 5 жыл бұрын
Damn. That sounds wayyy more fun.
@ShyShy0
@ShyShy0 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so jealous!
@ashleyterhune9320
@ashleyterhune9320 3 жыл бұрын
My parents forced me to watch it growing up, but even when I officially left the church it still felt like I was forced to listen to it. I'm not allowed to go anywhere on Sundays and I'm not allowed to have any sort of screens. My parents have the volume up all the way, so the only place I can go where I can't hear it is my room upstairs with the door closed. I can't talk to my friends or watch my shows or do anything, and if I make the slightest noise downstairs, my parents, and even my younger siblings, will tell me to be quiet because they "can't hear general conference". My parents leave me with 2 options: Listen to old people talk about how much I'm lost and depressed and inferior or be shut up in my room all day with no one to talk to and no entertainment. Mormons don't realize how damaging their beliefs are to themselves and others.
@BriannaLorraine
@BriannaLorraine 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for my records to finally be removed...
@smileyeagle1021
@smileyeagle1021 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, it is one of the best feelings in the world. It is a royal pain in the ass to get done, but once it is, it will feel like the largest weight has been lifted off of you.
@pleasepleasethebees
@pleasepleasethebees 5 жыл бұрын
We went camping but my tbm husband caught Nelson's talk. He's been an emotional wreck ever since. Would love to hear your take on that talk since I could use some perspective and some humor about it right now.
@redcurrantart
@redcurrantart 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how much you two are into biblical history but Tanner hit it on the head about the politicking after Jesus died. His brother was actually the head of the church at that point and Paul was a separate faction. It’s actually pretty interesting to read about and how the Christian church really is much more what Paul brought into existence than anything else.
@garymarshstein8992
@garymarshstein8992 5 жыл бұрын
Watching you two is oddly therapeutic for me. I encourage anyone who has some extra cash to help these guys out if you can.
@SarahRumley
@SarahRumley 5 жыл бұрын
This is my first general conference out of the church (not like I really attended them when I was in) but I'm hoping I don't have family sending me talks. I'll be getting an education this general conference weekend!
@ironmountain7907
@ironmountain7907 5 жыл бұрын
All the speakers in conference have this weird tone inflection, it’s like “news talk” or a slow way of speaking so you can understand them but it makes all of them sound monotone. I’m an ex Mormon but I live at home right now while I’m in school and I dread these weekends, so annoying.😂 I doubt they’ll change their stance on coffee or tea but that would be cool.
@raymond1842
@raymond1842 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched 6 hours of General Conference. The Evil Mormon Empire taught and spoke about all manner of disgusting and pernicious principles. Being better fathers and mothers, serving others, love, faith, being kind to others, living the teachings of Jesus Christ, the importance of families, loving your enemies, helping the needy etc. It was awful. I just don't know how they can teach such distasteful and hurtful things. Shame on them. Those topics are abhorrent to the garden variety anti Mormon.
@UsInSearchOfMeaning
@UsInSearchOfMeaning 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for this video, I always enjoy your content! 😀 I was watching a Mormon KZfaq family the other day and in it the mum paid her children for their grades at school. Not saying anything about that parenting method but when she told them to make sure they paid their tithing out of it first I felt quite disturbed. I just wondered what you guys thought about that and whether or not it was a usual practice for the church to accept money from children in the same way as they do from their adult members? Anyway thanks again! Love ya 😉
@JonnyJonvilleJonathan
@JonnyJonvilleJonathan 5 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda tempted to watch it, because I want to see if there are going to be any changes, but I'll probably just look at the highlights.
@eiraonsee2202
@eiraonsee2202 5 жыл бұрын
@Truth Defender I hope you know how gay that statement is.
@avayamm
@avayamm 5 жыл бұрын
Gawdamm... My family doesn't watch it on saturday but they make it a huge deal to watch it on sunday. I didn't realise general conference is this weekend until just now. My mom usually makes me watch it but ive already made plans for tomorrow so that'll go down in a shit storm. Fml
@willrobbins1651
@willrobbins1651 5 жыл бұрын
do you use, "goddammit" just in youtube comments sections or with your family as well?
@avayamm
@avayamm 5 жыл бұрын
@@willrobbins1651 what lmao
@willrobbins1651
@willrobbins1651 5 жыл бұрын
@@avayamm I guess "gawdamm" is a slight improvement, but still pseudo version of the same thing.
@avayamm
@avayamm 5 жыл бұрын
@@willrobbins1651 no im asking what your fuckin point is? Like why even bring it up??
@shiraiterra
@shiraiterra 5 жыл бұрын
Don't waste energy. He's offended cuz he wants to. Sending you chill vibes so that your family can take it easy and don't use their faith to abuse of you emotionally.
@hannahleslieh
@hannahleslieh 3 жыл бұрын
I love how in the book of mormon shames costly apparel and church is a clothing competition of who looks the best 24/7
@erikatingey8264
@erikatingey8264 5 жыл бұрын
Sleeping over at a friends house just so I don’t have to hear it in the morning and have it ruin my day LOL. Honestly just a bunch of talking heads🙄.. like I’m already loving my best life
@eiraonsee2202
@eiraonsee2202 5 жыл бұрын
@Truth Defender Why are you so obsessed with fucking, isn't that againts your faith?
@rayday9138
@rayday9138 5 жыл бұрын
Recap of April 2019 General Conference: One can't earn blessings, that's fundamentally wrong, instead they must be worked for and one must qualify for them. Apparently there is a difference? Blessings have no time table, so no one knows when they will be answered, or they may be answered in the next life, so one must just endure. The apocalypse is going to happen so fortify yourself against Satan. No news on when though, but trust us it's coming. You life may be horrendous due to illness, depression, losing a child or other such terrible tragedies, and even though God has the power to intervene and warn and help those that again, "Qualify" for blessings, as shared by other speakers, he sometimes wont intervene to stop tragedy from happening, but if you get a blessing then you will walk away with "Joy" and understanding of how great God is and how merciful he can be, even if your child dies in a horrible snow mobile accident; however; it may take a life time to feel better again or it may take the next life to be healed. Oh, and some old temples are going to be remodeled. Amen.
@Laura-rd6yg
@Laura-rd6yg 3 жыл бұрын
Tanner’s hair LOOKS 👏🏻SO👏🏻GOOD👏🏻
@Panfolils
@Panfolils 5 жыл бұрын
Totally not watching conference, but I don't think it is only the Mormon church that does "Sunday dress"
@utah133
@utah133 5 жыл бұрын
Catching up on my Jimmy Snow vids in my shed. (My Mormon-resistant inner sanctum)
@kerstinklenovsky239
@kerstinklenovsky239 Жыл бұрын
Without the Mormon church you two would never have met. 😉 You are so obviously kindred spirits. Love you guys. ❤️
@davidbarker3047
@davidbarker3047 5 жыл бұрын
So, I’ve been watching you guys for a while, and I can’t tell if whether you’re in a relationship or just friends? I’m confused. Hope you can clarify for me
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 5 жыл бұрын
David Barker platonic roommates :)
@davidbarker3047
@davidbarker3047 5 жыл бұрын
Zelph On the Shelf Ok. Cool! Thanks for clarifying! Btw, I’m loving your content
@pastmomo3959
@pastmomo3959 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to donate to your cause. Is there a place I can donate a ONE TIME rather than the monthly? Love your stuff
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Our PayPal link is www.paypal.me/zelphontheshelf 😊
@michaelwyatt3167
@michaelwyatt3167 5 жыл бұрын
Lol as soon as I started this video my parents texted
@66whit66
@66whit66 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not watching it but I’ll be hiding in my room until it’s over.
@catrionahenderson7759
@catrionahenderson7759 5 жыл бұрын
So nice to see ex-mormans sharing with us all. I am an ex morman woman who has little or no contact just now. I relate to how it feels so lonely and that one is missing the whole morman experience at this time. I don't miss it now. I am appalled at the whole pack of lies. So good to see that the truth is coming out; that they are just a flock of old men deciding on ideas they have and then calling it revelations.
@chadland2012
@chadland2012 5 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the announcement about the LBGTQ policy change?
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 5 жыл бұрын
chadland2012 yes! We even did a response kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrxgdbqInqyUhps.html
@chadland2012
@chadland2012 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I just watched it. I appreciate you making these videos.
@lorineilson7529
@lorineilson7529 5 жыл бұрын
Able to drink tea and coffee? Interesting. I plan on getting my flowers beds cleaned out Spring is here!
@melodypond1003
@melodypond1003 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a Catholic (not by choice) and I wore shorts (with a button down and dress flats) and no one would talk to me. I feel like if Jesus was real, he wouldn’t care.
@bobbq8380
@bobbq8380 5 жыл бұрын
I was catholic, not by choice as most babies born into catholic families, too. So glad and relieved I left drug and whordom ravaged catholicism. Don't see that issue in even ex mormonism.
@UsagiHeart
@UsagiHeart 5 жыл бұрын
Listening to this in my room while my mum blasts conference outside ;w;
@UsagiHeart
@UsagiHeart 5 жыл бұрын
Just heard her tell my younger sister that she has to listen to the entire conference and take notes and if she doesn't, she's grounded for the week. She has plans to see an old friend this week. My younger sister is 12 and is already having doubts. She doesn't want to listen to conference but I don't know what to tell her. She doesn't quite have the freedom I do as a 17 y/o. I and my 3 older siblings have left and I personally "converted" (I don't like the term but it gets the point across) to Secular Wicca/secular witchcraft.
@maslnaa
@maslnaa 5 жыл бұрын
i’m gonna play it in the background on mute while listening to lesbian musicians’ entire discography
@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704
@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704 5 жыл бұрын
Mormonism - Corporate God. And if it is only corporate it is only empty.
@DirtmopAZ
@DirtmopAZ 5 жыл бұрын
My TBM wife is watching conference, and this was genuinely the only time in my life that I have been excited to watch it because I can’t wait to hear what whack-a-doo stuff they come out with this year. It’s ironic that I can finally enjoy conference weekend
@allim.5941
@allim.5941 4 жыл бұрын
When Sam was saying about how when other cults start relaxing the rules they think it will help with the numbers but it really doesn’t, I was thinking, “Shhhhh! Shut the hell up (lol), don’t give them tips!” I’m just teasing, great video.
@Triateyal
@Triateyal 5 жыл бұрын
Ty, this was very cathartic. It's always nice to know I'm not making stuff up.
@bethanyhanson9700
@bethanyhanson9700 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of watching general conference I'm competing in the IMPA Championships with Gold Spike Percussion bitches🙌
@KelvistheCrow
@KelvistheCrow 5 жыл бұрын
Tanner's eyeliner looks great. he should wear makeup more often.
@robpaulson7992
@robpaulson7992 5 жыл бұрын
I can smell the coffee brewing on temple square . . . :)
@Skrimshady
@Skrimshady Жыл бұрын
The only reason I like General Conference was that I didnt need to get dressed up and go into church. I could just chill all day with the Tv turned off 😂
@GusHdzRuiz
@GusHdzRuiz 5 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in how Tanner and his family work...I mean, as far as I know, he's the only one who left, so how do you maintain a close relationship with friends or family that are members?
@ashleyterhune9320
@ashleyterhune9320 3 жыл бұрын
There should be one massive group chat for ex-Mormons. I don't really know any ex-Mormons and it would make me feel less alone when I'm surrounded by the Mormon culture.
@munchhecks250
@munchhecks250 5 жыл бұрын
Wait why was tea ever banned in the first place??
@TheNickhis
@TheNickhis 5 жыл бұрын
Yall already know this but yall are ridiculously pretty
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 5 жыл бұрын
TheNickhis bless you 😘
@residentevil1223
@residentevil1223 4 жыл бұрын
Ex-mormon, ex-missonary here. I did not like Bednar at all. And that was the reason I cut my last tie to the Mormon church. I don't like him and I was told I was a bad person for saying so.
@jolynarmstrong4687
@jolynarmstrong4687 5 жыл бұрын
Haha love watching this having obviously been filmed before the massive policy change announcement. Maybe there will be other changes announced too but...
@PeterLambert2211
@PeterLambert2211 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know any Mormon more devote that my mother-in-law and I can tell you if they made coffee acceptable in General Conference, she would be at Starbucks that day making up for all those lost cups.
@Doxybot36
@Doxybot36 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Logan. Absolutely hated it, it's a very toxic mormon area. I finally put my foot down with my mother about me not believing about a year ago. She's still not taking it well... oof.
@rachelworkman9652
@rachelworkman9652 5 жыл бұрын
I went to Hawaii and was with my family for general conference I just ate a lot and played games on my phone haha:p I didn’t even realize I would be there during it when I went and spent time with them:p it was fun having my son meet them and love them but I realize they only watch a few movies and shows because they are wholesome:p my mom made me sleep instead of take Tylenol for my headache:p I was like I can babysit my baby if I take meds:p they are pretty anti medicine:p
@Cherie112358
@Cherie112358 3 жыл бұрын
class action, call Sam Young. We're taking it all the way. I know a dork who loves to go to conferences in Las Vegas of tort lawyers. They will be forced to refund tithing if it's the last thing I do. I will be happy to settle my case out of court. I can count all the things I've lost. The Muslims ALWAYS have treated me better than the Mormons.
@natchnieni0
@natchnieni0 3 жыл бұрын
Get Jimmy Snow over and play a General Conference game of "Sitting, leaning and standing," (Whose line...)
@SteveSmith-os5bs
@SteveSmith-os5bs 5 жыл бұрын
I used to get my best sleep on conference, during sacrament I would fall asleep but the my wife would elbow me in the ribs. But durning conference she would usually let me sleep.
@porterrockwell7322
@porterrockwell7322 5 жыл бұрын
So you only slept well two weekends out of the entire year? Try exercising you fat ass.
@mikelberke8239
@mikelberke8239 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my fuck I just got done making and eating French toast. Praise satan :)
@StevieMosh
@StevieMosh 4 жыл бұрын
The whole "dressing in your finest things for the lord" is huge in Catholicism too. We'd hear all about how Jesus loved the poor and how we should be simple and not try to be fancy while sitting in an ornate, ridiculously expensive-looking church in fancy clothes. Huge cognitive dissonance there.
@smileyeagle1021
@smileyeagle1021 5 жыл бұрын
I went to the zoo with my husband and my son on Saturday... oddly, our my very Mormon mother in law joined us, along with my not so Mormon (but still obviously indoctrinated) brother in law and my nephew who sadly is in the process of being indoctrinated. On Sunday I grilled up some hot dogs and burgers and invited a bunch of friends over, the TV did not get turned on at all that day. If it weren't for my sister in law making such a big deal about how our niece was going to her first conference, I'd have almost forgotten it was conference weekend (which honestly, I think was the best part about moving far away from Salt Lake, I don't have that twice a year reminder of everything I went through while I was in the church).
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet 3 жыл бұрын
Those out of the blue texts happen to other people? I thought I was special. 😆
@caleb5234
@caleb5234 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going bowling and having my 3rd beer ever with some friends.
@kaylaadams9413
@kaylaadams9413 5 жыл бұрын
I got a message from my old bishop on conference weekend
@maksgarden2010
@maksgarden2010 4 жыл бұрын
You guys lived in Logan? Like Logan, Utah?
@ZelphOntheShelf
@ZelphOntheShelf 4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@nebraskamax1476
@nebraskamax1476 3 жыл бұрын
GC is this weekend and srsly I could swear I saw those old farts halfheartedly waving their white handkerchiefs around in like May. I'm like, 'didn't GC JUST happen?'
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