The J-7E is Literally Built Different

The J-7E is Literally Built Different | War Thunder

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Күн бұрын

This has been a consistently fun jet for a very long time, ever since the PL-5Bs got buffed a few years ago. The J-7E can't face the F-15, and though it still has to face the F-16 and MiG-29 it's not SUPER often and it still has some tricks up its sleeve...
00:00 Intro
00:00 Flight Performance
01:59 Weaponry
06:02 Suvivability
07:10 J-7D vs J-7E
Outro Music: • Fights On - Summer Ski...
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@Loudward__ Ай бұрын

This plane is technically CyberBullying

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

True and real!

@fenixsortudo1906 Ай бұрын

In this case, bullying is fair

@TigerOwO Ай бұрын

There is actually a later variant of this jet that I really hoped they can bring it into the game one day. J-7G. It is basically a J-7E but even more modernized. It got an usable PD radar, HMD, HOTAS and big screen MFDs. Instead they gave the nobody asked J-7D.

@JundRaptor Ай бұрын

Unfortunately the most advanced J-7s are export models, so if they get added they'll definitely be $75 premiums

@TigerOwO Ай бұрын

@@JundRaptor Not sure if there's another even better equipped J-7 variant ever build. There are several variant that should be more advanced but never put into production like the side intake J-7CP, collaborated with Grumman Super 7, or the bottom intake J-7MF.

@cookiecracker2 Ай бұрын

@@JundRaptor$85*

@JundRaptor Ай бұрын

@@TigerOwO Looked it up and apparently the most advanced J-7 is actually their domestic J-7G2, which is upgraded from their Bangladesh export F-7BGI. Functionally it has a stronger radar and can use CFTs compared to the BGI. In game the radar will only be marginally useful since I can't find any evidence that the J-7G2s can use BVR missiles. With an HMD and PL-9s it'll probably be 11.7 br max.

@TigerOwO Ай бұрын

@@JundRaptor lol they said J-7G2 production started back in 2013, which was 2 years after the first flight of the stealthy J-20.

@KaguyasBeat Ай бұрын

This is one of those planes that if you know... you know. Most people look at it and say "Oh it's just a Chinese MiG-21" By that logic the Su-57 is just a Russian F-22. The KF-21 is just a Korean F-22... you get the point.

@W1BLE1 Ай бұрын

Tip for everyone playing J-7E, use the ground belt with APHE. I had a lot more one-shots with it, good video Lee, keep it up!

@JundRaptor Ай бұрын

I don't know if it changed but afaik the realShatter nerf doesn't apply to APHE. So the APHE rounds will do a lot more damage. I pretty much run ground belts for all my high tier jets these days.

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

I'll definitely have to try it, thanks!

@JundRaptor Ай бұрын

@@GeneralLee2000 I just checked in the armor viewer and APHE still has 15+ fragments while HE has the nerfed realShatter 1-5 fragments. Intentional or not it was a nerf towards nations who don't have APHE in their ground belts.

@gustiwidyanta5492 Ай бұрын

Can confirm,APHE NR30 *WRECKS.*

@TheDAWinz Ай бұрын

Sadly this only ever gets uptiers anymore and while its a fantastic airframe it’s severely limited

@gosshawk Ай бұрын

man I was just flying around and enjoying this thing 20 minutes ago and now I go on youtube and see you post a vid on it, its such a fun plane and it deserves way more attention than it actually gets

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Very very fun plane

@ShellSlinger224 Ай бұрын

Sup lee unfortunate ur wing flew off last night. Great video!

@thatoneguy1741 Ай бұрын

Hope they add more j7 variants if they plan on the mig 21 for Britain

@edxcal84 Ай бұрын

I'm happy you posted this video, I'm currently grinding out the Chinese tree and am about to get the J-7II, which I'm actually looking forward too. However, yesterday I was looking ahead in the line and saw the J-7E and thought, wow, only 60 rounds and rear aspect missiles at 11.0? Meh. But watching this video, I'm looking forward to it. I don't see the J-7E often, but I enjoy aircraft like the F-5E and the F-16, so I think I'll love it!

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Yup! It handles very nicely

@bensherohuntershelp-wi4dr Ай бұрын

Great and entertaining vid Lee, it’s quite the beast in its current setting. Oh and also Happy Birthday🎉, enjoy the special day :)))

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

I was going to give you a heart until I opened the read more

@bensherohuntershelp-wi4dr Ай бұрын

@@GeneralLee2000 lmao, suffer! Hahaha

@blobert62 Ай бұрын

There’s the J-7E video I was expecting. Idk if you remember but I was that F-14 on the city map that you obliterated with a PL-5B. Really want to grind this thing out but the A-5C I’ve been using is so brainlessly boring.

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Haha yup I had a feeling that was you. Poor lad 😅

@blobert62 Ай бұрын

@@GeneralLee2000 Yep. Absolutely slammed. Although I did get a nice 2-3 minute one on one fight with an SU-22 beforehand which is nice. Don’t see that too often anymore

@MiG21fanboy Ай бұрын

I like the j7d, the combo of the magics and pl5's is amazing

@ckingc05 Ай бұрын

Gaijin really should of sold the F-7PG instead of the J-7D. I really don't know that Gaijin was thinking selling the J-7D at 11.0 for $70. I just feel bad for anyone who buys that plane.

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Other games: selling overpowered premiums. War Thunder: Somehow consistently cooking up poor premiums 💀

@T3hRogue Ай бұрын

I've just started my China grind - is it really that bad? I've already had to suffer some bad planes in other nations.

@MiG21fanboy Ай бұрын

Its not that bad, i really like the j7d, the flight performance isnt the best at the br, but you still can turn with alot of planes you see, and the combo of the magic's and pl5s is amazing

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

@@T3hRogue you get a 10.3 airframe with rear aspect only missiles fighting F-16s. The J-7E pulls it off because it has incredible performance. The D feels horrid, and it's even worse considering how stupidly easy the A-5C is to grind in.

@T3hRogue Ай бұрын

@@GeneralLee2000 thanks, General! I'll hook up to the A-5 then and hopefully have the tree done by PL-12 time lol

@carterbrown9332 Ай бұрын

Was in a game with you last night while you were playing this thing

@Boxnetic Ай бұрын

happy birthday lee could you make a video on the phantom FGR2? keep it up!!!

@suzybean13 Ай бұрын

Wassup lee? Fav jet of the entire game

@No1harris_98 Ай бұрын

I honestly love the J-7E, definitely one of my favourites Migs to play. (Also the crazy fact that it can get a better missile kit is mental)

@bruhhhhmoment4848 Ай бұрын

F5e at 10.7 is my comfort plane while blasting my music

@depolifyyy Ай бұрын

about to unlock it today so this is perfectttttttt

@user-jy6cn3jy8g Ай бұрын

3:00 it depends on what aircraft you hit and what part of the aircraft you hit. The problem is not with guns but with damage models overall. For instance, the F-16 has literally paper wings irl (basically that’s the reason why irl it can’t pull more than 10deg of AoA at speed more than 700kph - the wing just snaps), its wing is very thin and has not so many longerons inside the wing so if it gets hit by a single 30mil HE irl it will start living its own life somewhere apart from the plane but in the game F-16’s and other planes with similar thin wings such as the MiG-21, J-7, F-5 can survive multiple hits on the wings Rn there’s the only gun in the game that actually does somewhat realistic damage - it’s French 30mil DEFA

@kingghidorah8106 Ай бұрын

i really never survived "multiple hits" on F-16 or F-5. MiG21s can take a load of punishment and survive enough to return to airfield. The F-5 is no longer the absolute tank it was, I remember when I got it my very first games I would bring the bomb and shoot while dropping it to bomb people mid air, it went from just a yellow belly to losing some part to eventually blowing up. When the F16 came out it was extremely hard to kill it. And I don't think that f16 wings are fragile. AOA and high energy retention in maneuvers don't usually go hand in hand. The F-16 had little angle of attack to increase energy retention at medium high speed while keeping the envelope of flight controlled while also conserving turn rates constant within each speed intervals. Modern aircraft have been designed to have almost constant maneuverability values, like 270 degrees per second of roll rate at 400kmh and 240 degrees per second of roll rate at 1200kmh, 24 degrees per second of turn rate at 500kmh on the deck, and 22 degrees per second at 1000kmh on the deck.

@user-jy6cn3jy8g Ай бұрын

@@kingghidorah8106 you’re partially right and partially wrong. You’re right about energy retention and AoA correlation but still its wing is really fragile. It can roll exceptionally well due to its high aspect ration of the wing which increases resistance to transverse overloads. There’re diagrams for the F-16 (for the A one I believe), one is for max overload that shows that starting form 700kph in turns with more than 10deg of AoA the wing is damaging and in turns with more than 15deg the wing is falling apart (literally) And the other one is for high AoA performance of the plane that shows why there’s a limiter irl. That diagram shows that at 25deg of AoA and higher (25-50deg) the F-16 enters “deep stall” state and in this state elevators don’t work at all cause at these angles there’s no air flow pushing on them and also because the plane is aerodynamically unstable it can’t recover by itself. So once the plane reaches these angles it will keep holding these angles with almost 0 chances to recover until it’s completely stalled. And here we are with the F-16A in the game that pulls 28deg of AoA at 500kph and less aaaand nothing happens I’m sorry, this “topic” could be about the J-7 and in this case about guns and damage models and I opened acan of worms that is the FM’s in our beloved game :D

@_iFo Ай бұрын

Gotta be at least +15 social credit after this post

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

I can now buy some bing chilling

@TinchoX Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Yessir

@varesin2978 Ай бұрын

I'm taking a break from the game, but man, do I want the J-7E tho xd. I've been grinding Germany and MiG-21MF was the most fun to fly for me, even though it has it's drawbacks. But, as someone who won't spend a fucking dime on the game, the grind is atrocious and I have to remember that to avoid the game, lmao. The grind is atrocious. Thanks for the vid, it definitely made me want to fly this piece of metal :D

@nattapongpimson7994 Ай бұрын

The definition I give to the J-7E is The Useless Diamond and The Jenitor Fighter. It have a very good airframe and really good Missiles but for me it have very little game impact in a match and your role is pretty much to mop up the left over. Still very good plane tho probably the best 11.0 performance wise. Also if you look for some premium jet to grind Chinese tech tree try the A-5C. It essentially the Mig-19 but havier and have a very good missile at 10.0. it can almost every jet at 9.7-10.3 with the energy retention. Very good jet to grind Chinese tech tree.(and you can use the F-5E or J-7E to grind the rest of the tree)

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

The A-5C is simply their best grinder fr

@nattapongpimson7994 Ай бұрын

@@GeneralLee2000 A very good fighter even when uptier too(get absolute wreck by F-5E tho)

@TheLoneWanderererr Ай бұрын

People tend to understand estimate a5c players who dogfight too because the average player is bombing in them. I don't know if it's Stockholm syndrome but my aim is really solid with those terrible 23mm

@collander7766 Ай бұрын

skill issue, J-7E is the best jet at its tier

@nattapongpimson7994 Ай бұрын

@@collander7766 Didn't say it isn't

@MandaCoster Ай бұрын

My favorite 11.0 for bullying F4s base bomber And those pl-5bs are insane in terms of acceleration but kinda meh seeker sometimes

@mikeyplayz8438 Ай бұрын

Ur odd

@MandaCoster Ай бұрын

@@mikeyplayz8438 bruhh Don't tell me that you are one of those bozo with f4S bombing base?

@rt-eden8392 Ай бұрын

There will never be a meta without the j7E

@Rocky-bq1dq Ай бұрын

May i ask what youve done to the vehicle nameplates in order to see the vehicle vairiant? (Such as the a10a late vs early)

@mjoea1624 Ай бұрын

Would love to know as well

@yanchan9711 13 күн бұрын

The only reason i am play J-7E is just because F-5 freedom fighter really pissed me off when i working with A5C

@Bob_Dickinson Ай бұрын

As a mirage 2000D-R1 player... the only thing i fear is... the J7E... my god its insane, i had to do a reversal on it to kill it

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Oh yeah the J-7E is a monster lmao

@emonster317 Ай бұрын

Double delta dorito destruction

@loicalex Ай бұрын

u need to use ground belts on this cannon, trust me

@Fuzeha Ай бұрын

What software do you use to make the graphs

@compmilk Ай бұрын

goog video

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ThatChinaMainElmo Ай бұрын

idk what matchmaking u get but in the EU I get full uptiers 75% of the time

@Trixatus Ай бұрын

This planes missiles are insane and its a swedish mig 21

@Loudward__ Ай бұрын

Swedish?????

@loginhooddloginhoodd2556 Ай бұрын

did u ever find out what munting is?

@haroonmaqshar1258 Ай бұрын

wazzup beijing

@antonisashitteragain6993 Ай бұрын

Give it radar missiles or move it to 10.7

@Dart-One Ай бұрын

J7e is an absolute monster

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Very much so lol

@Certified_Dude Ай бұрын

This plane is the reason I stopped playing the F8

@mab2187 Ай бұрын

To think Chinese made a better wing for an interceptor and made it into a proper dogfighter. Why don't all nations whenever they think of using delta wings, they try using double deltas?

@nick11jl Ай бұрын

Imo this plane is AMAZING in sim, and you dont even face 12.0 jets because the brackets are 10.7-11.7

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Ooh that's a good point

@ovined3132 Ай бұрын

just unlocked this

@circulardirt7893 Ай бұрын

+20 社会信用 for spreading our glorious agenda, good job fellow citizen

@silkyzoid Ай бұрын

Is that General Lee?!?!?!?

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

No way!!!

@silkyzoid Ай бұрын

@@GeneralLee2000 What is your opinion on the F-4EJ ADTW :clueless:

@goooooller9353 Ай бұрын

This would be a good jet to talisman, right?

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Very IMO, I did

@Griffinlegion303 Ай бұрын

wait untill you get j7f xD

@aimfa Ай бұрын

J-7E is really good plane but unfortunetely in Chinese tt.

@2goober4u Ай бұрын

(Incorrectly)

@DethOTheRedBaron_ Ай бұрын

Double dorito

@MD-wn4ui Ай бұрын

Really funny how this plane would have faced F-15C’s with AMRAAMS and it was added to face F4’s.

@Ryan-go6id Ай бұрын

welcome to war thunder

@PzIV-E Ай бұрын

No radar?

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

It gets a radar gunsight?

@nick11jl Ай бұрын

It has a radar gun sight I think but I just turn it off.

@britishmilitary4life1 Ай бұрын

Hi lee

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Yo wassup?

@britishmilitary4life1 Ай бұрын

@GeneralLee2000 nothing much just playing f14 and spaming phoenix's lmao

@lucky_lad4825 Ай бұрын

yooo 32 seconds ago, les' go

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

Speed demon

@kingghidorah8106 Ай бұрын

what sends me off so much is how people want the f-5e to go back to the BR of this thing while giving this thing Python 3s... china mains are delusional out of ten.