If you rewatch the episode in which Ahsoka was accused, you’ll see that the Council’s hasty judgement of her was pressured by the Senate and Supreme Chancellor. That wasn’t a typical Jedi trial.

0:01 Glad that Alan found himself a better rented room in Coruscant.

No wonder the people of the galaxy didn't bat an eye at the Jedi being wiped out by Order 66 for turning against the Republic at the time.

"His only weakness was any body of water over 5'6" 😂

"The jedi were much more disciplined and structured than the samurai bullshido code" bruh you had me dying there.

It's funny to talk about the Senate being weary of the Jedi. In the SWTOR MMO, there was a side quest where a Senator proposed the idea of an Order 66-type law in case the Jedi ever rebelled against the Republic. At the end of the quest, it's revealed he's laughed out of the Senate chambers.

We haven’t used bald eagles as a unit of measurement in years. We used cheeseburgers now

” Got the high ground on her probably kenobis idea” Ahhhh okay that was a good one Alan 😂

Last time I was this early the Jedi were still the Jed’i

I'm glad you are covering Acolyte objectively and creating thought provoking lore-centric discussions. Your content has helped me stay curious and engaged with the show. I think episode 3 was the low point, but it's picking up steam again and only getting better.

The Jedi are a mash up of the knights Templar, the samurai, even King Arthur myths. The “force” is based on the pre Christian idea of “Spiritus Mundi” an idea of a “world spirit” if everyone does good all will be good and visa versa if all do bad all will be bad… similar to the idea of karma. “Force Users” are sensitive to these changes in the force and are able to tap into pathways within the force to communicate with all the global creatures. corruption of the ppl of Lucas’ parallel universe is what darkened the force which is what lead to the down fall of the jedi. The darkness weakened the good but strengthened traditional users of the dark side like witches and the sith. The problem with “Star Wars” after Lucas let go of it, is the fact the writers have very little understanding of the history as Lucas used it to creat his parallel universe. The writers have resorted to giving force users magic as it were. They ruined SW as great basis for story telling. Lucas created Star Wars as a way of understanding the forces in his own life. The us government was fighting in Vietnam at the time, he grew up Christian but Zen Buddhism was important in Northern California where he grew up and questioned its role in his life and the life of others, he grew up loving mechanical and tech stuff-his love for hot rods and airplane’s is obvious in his early work. George is Luke: a young man in search of himself… he created a parallel universe as a test bed, as it were, to gain understanding and insight as to his own life. This is true art!

I'm not the biggest fan of The Acolyte, but I'm glad that you are here to point out things I would have otherwise missed because of my feelings towards it.

I totally agree with Alan here. I run a large military construction program and I welcome audits, even requesting they be run on my program. I want to know the parts of my program that are doing well and especially the parts that are not. I view it as a chance to improve, and gain advocacy for parts that are struggling. Much of the time it is a chance to advocate for insufficient manpower and resources to do the job right, or even to divest of those parts if resource requirements are too great.

My allegiance is to the Allen, to generation tech.

I have that same issue with bones, I've never broke a bone, weigh more than you'd think and I just sink in water. I can swim fine but I always look like I'm drowning because I have to constantly move to stay on the surface, it sucks.

I find some parallels between the Jedi decline and the knights Templar

Man I never thought about it... But 10,000 space cops would NEVER be enough to control the galaxy if there was mass like riots or something. The US has 700,000 cops for over 3 million people, were talking 10,000 for countless trillions? I doubt they'd even be able to control Coruscant even with powers and lightsabers 😂😂😂😂

The only Chanel on KZfaq that talks about star wars, and you force magic can not change my mind

Welcomed an audit while I was working for Air Force Space Command. One of the best experiences of my career.

I bet the Senator who has a campaign against the Jedi has a Tarkin personality

Really, not to start a religious argument here, but I would have thought a modern comparison would have been the Catholic church. They have their own City with their own laws, their own mail system and their own military., and we know that they advised spiritually as well as give advice to political leaders... the organization of the Catholic Church strikes me more of a comparison to the Jedi organization before the fall

The Jedi separating such young children from their families is questionable at best and the obvious hypocrisy in this series is disheartening.

i am here for the evening window view of Coruscant

Oh thank God you translated that weight so we can all understand it! Also 50 😮 that's a lot of freedom!

It's so good to see that on this channel the host reacts & talks to people almost in every video 🙂 Even little bit is better than none & no matter the channel's size 🙂 Interacting with the people who are reason for it stay on surface 🙂 Good sunday to GT & followers 🤞

Generation Tech 5-ever!!!🧡💛

Your understanding of the Star Wars universe is quite amazing.

“50 bald Eagles” “people from Connecticut, something in the water” Dude, I literally spit out my coffee, lol.

I like that Alan, an American, chose to describe his college friend first in kilos, then in the true American weight unit of bald eagles. 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

I like that "The Acolyte" is showing how a good organization goes bad when exposed to power with no checks and balances.

I love your take on politics, man. Very wise.

It’s funny you mention Tython in the end. If you play SWTOR and are on Tython, you can come across two Jedi Masters debating about the merits of the staying in the Tython temple vs rebuilding the Coruscant temple. One argues that the Jedi should be in a place where they can focus and center themselves while the other argues they should be in a place where they are seen and frequently interact with the people of the Republic

This just highlights the absolutely phenomenal ground work that the Lucas prequels put into place. The full scope and culmination of events that leads to Plagueis's master plan is pretty awesome. I still don't think we realise just how grand it was, because; we as humans are generally unable to gauge scales and numbers at galactic scales since it loses meaning to us as an individual.

I really like your approach to these videos. I'm really happy I found this channel.

I didn’t know the Jedi could run for government I thought it would be against the rules of the order that’s kinda crazy

Love your insights Alan. Thank you for another great video!

That high-bone-density kid sounds familiar. Upside, very hard to break a bone. A 850kg horse crushing the roof of my foot with the edge of its hoof didn't do it, neither did getting my fingers between a heavy wood front door being slammed shut (on the hinge side) or falling out of a tree from a position overlooking 2 story building rooftops (did paralyze my breathing for a minute or 2 from impacting flat on my back). Downside. Despite swimming lessons (mandatory here) I just sink. Also scrawny build, weird. I have no illusions though it's just above average density, not being the lead in Unbreakable surviving train crashes lol.

Another great video, thats for the lore breakdown ! The thumbnail though , everyone dreads the audit

You upload at all hours of the day it seems. True dedication and love of your work.

"For American viewers, that's around the load bearing capacity of about 50 bald eagles." Thank you, I was worried we'd have to convert it by dividing football fields by moon landings.

I love the view outside your back window

Great videos!!! I just discovered you today and you're content is A+. I didn't notice that green screen before 🙌 narly background

I agree that audit is good. But in the SW universe the senator might be Sith.

The jedi order is the Knights Templar, and order 66 is october, friday the 13th, 1307.

@ generation Tech, nobody is talking about Sol, and his connection to OSHA. He acts more like a father than a master, look back from how he followed the twins, showed the his light saber, and his emotional attachment.. I’m betting he is the curve ball in this series.

Dare I say this nod is a small tipping point towards to eventual Separatist crisis

14:25 "We don't know why she's trying to cover this up..." -- Personally, I don't think it's nefarious on her part... I think she's an idealist, who has this image of the Order on a pedestal where it can do no wrong. But it does -- a lot. The Jedi are "only human" so to speak (I know, multiple species, it's the only adage I can think of haha!) -- they make mistakes, they get involved and let their feelings lead them, and they don't know everything. But every time they mess up, it tarnishes the image of the Order in the public's eye... so she's trying to prevent that. I think she wants the public to admire and respect the Order, and she wants the Jedi to feel confident and proud of the work they do -- and she does that by just brushing a few little missteps under the ole Jedi Council carpet. But sooner or later, all those little things add up and start to trip people up..... I think Qimir's deviation from the light side was one of those little things, and now it's come back to trip Vernestra up in a MUCH bigger scale.

I've always thought of the Jedi Order to be akin to the Knights Templar.

Do you think you can do a deeper dive on the philosophy and combat structures of the 7 lightsaber forms in their own individual videos

1:00 for anyone wondering, I did the math and he’s right. It is about the load bearing capacity of 50 bald eagles

When all you have is a lightsaber, you go around looking for a nail.

Great video, Allen.

great vid bro

I like that Star Wars is exploring the role the Jedi have with the Republic because it is unique. They're allowed to act independently in the intrests of the Republic, which gives them almost carte blanche to resolve any issue as they see fit.

Let's not forget that in the eyes of the public the Jedi were leading an army fighting a separatist movement and rebel forces lead by what everybody percieved as a Jedi as well (though former). This would further create an image of Jedi as a driving force behind the war. Dooku was the perfect tool for Palpatine and he politically outmaneuvered the order of Monks who had their heads in force clouds. I would say one thing though: The Jedi might be a flawed institution, but they did try their best. They curbed a natural pull toward zealotry pretty well and remained constrained as much as possible. If only they got out of their temples a bit more, had a few drinks and mingled with people. Might have resulted with many more force sensitive babies, but at least they would have had a better grasp of the situation. :P

Man, I saw the thumbnail with the caption “Audit” finally! And I thought someone was looking to see where that $180 Million went.

I agree with auditing the Jedi order in principle, but it should be based on some sort of formal agreement between the order and the Republic, otherwise the audits could easily become a weapon used for political goals and/or they could paralyze the Council's ability to do what the Republic expects from them because of having to constantly put their work on hold in order to answer questions, show receipts, explain why the vault with all the Sith artifacts should be allowed to stay off-limits to the auditors, explain to the auditors why the Jedi order should be allowed to monopolize Kyber crystal mining & why the Order should be allowed to keep the locations of the mines secret etc.

I sometimes can't tell if you're talking about the Star Wars Republic or the American Republic.

The Jedi were so much cooler when they were rare. Magic using Knights from a hokey religion with ancient weapons.

Great job on this one, especially the geography of regions effecting views towards the Jedi and the relationship between the Jedi and the Republic becoming counterproductive through overreliance. A key concept that can be seen in multiple military cultures is the subservience of the military to the political authorities, such as in the US military needing to remain politically neutral written within its legal codes (and the commander in chief/dod lead as a civilian) as well as in the PRC with the PLA specifically subservient to the CPC.

Excellent episode.

Complete tangent - I just realized that Chancellor Valorum was Zod in Superman II !?!?!? Go ol' Terence Stamp!

Good episode from GT that brought up things to think about 🙂

This real-politik view of the starwars universe makes me wonder: In our world, every organization has it's dirty-tricks division. A group who is willing to break the law and even sell their own souls for the good of their leader. Their mental defenses include "We get our hands dirty so the ones we love don't have to.". What if the Jedi org had something similar. I know Andor and Rogue One showed it for the Republic and the Rebellion, but those are non-Jedi orgs.

Completely off-topic: Has anyone else had the thought that "Attack me, with all your strength." sounds a lot like Tyler Durton's "I want you to hit me as hard as you can."?

Your friend sounds suspiciously like my friend. Shockingly short by normal standards, but otherwise normal proportions of limbs body, etc. Extremely dense body and bones, he can't float in water. We call him the brick. Lol

P.S. It would be cool if some Je'daii remained on Tython after a schism and are contacted by some new character.

Not gonna lie bro ur one of the few speaking positive on the show and actually convincing me to watch. Nice

There really should have been a system of regular audits being done. Set a number of years with the possibility of extra ones in the event of exceptional circumstances.

Thank you for explaining to those of us who use FREEDOM DIGITS

I really hope there is some kind of crazy twist or reveal coming

Ngl was hoping this video was about figuring out why the Acolyte cost so much to produce despite looking so cheap.

Yay, Alan!!!!🤘🎸🔥😎

Great video Alan! Sunlight is the best disinfectant!

I dont know how I never noticed before, but now I can't unhear it. Are from the land of cheesesteaks and hoagies?

I can't quite collect my thoughts very well but I have mixed feelings about all this. I suppose I feel like the Jedi should be portrayed as very sincerely trying to keep all their members in the light and genuinely believing that getting fully entangled with the republic is the right move. My understanding is that this is based very much on them working together to defeat the sith before. The Jedi slowly stopped going out independently to find people in need, to seek out the dark and dig it out at the roots. The failure isn't that they're actually corrupt in the vain and relatively petty ways real world institutions are but instead became lost and complacent, a tool of the republic that is no longer true to the spirit of their own beliefs and teachings. The fail to teach people how to deal with their emotions or other natural difficulties and instead preach repression and avoidance. They seemingly no longer work to maintain balance, harmony and peace in the galaxy (which is how I interpret the will of the force in star wars) but to maintain the status quo of the republic because they now mistake them as being the same thing. I find that a much more interesting story than cover ups and political machinations. Having said that, to say that the Jedi would be able to escape political manoeuvring and its corrupting influence while so entangled with the republic is rather naive to the point of being silly. So yeah, mixed feelings. I'm reserving judgement. I admit to going off vibes a lot. A lot in the acolyte isn't particularly objectionable but doesn't really suit the vibe of star wars for me, that doesn't mean the same ideas can't be used or explored but how they're integrated into a star wars property needs to be handled carefully to feel right to people who have a general sense of what "feels" like star wars. I actually think a lot of people who are critical of the acolyte are similar to me but are apoplectic about it for some reason, I find it slightly jarring but it's not a huge deal really.

We don't talk enough about Indara, the Jedi ambassador so cold with her verbal Jedi Kung Fu that she jumped talking about Republic regulations in a non affiliated planed without no habitants beyond a small community of witches living in hidding. Imagine the US arriving at Venus, and after discovering that there is people living there trying to use the US constitution to make them submit to their will 💀

DoD is often seen as the most inefficient use of taxpayer money, (and we have a lot of room for improvement.) Dod and the services are constantly under the microscope and have numerous audits, both systemic and un-programmed. However, I've read several times (one source was GAO) that DoD is one of the most efficient parts on government. I find this terrifying. If we're among the most efficient what everyone else doing?

spot on. I think you've got the best most constructive voice in "star wars criticism" For sure, the Jedi, as presented so far, the organization has been put in a difficult spot, they pretty much have to be dedicated guardians of the Republic, but it's hard to keep on being unelected and unaccountable guardians of a semi-democratic galactic republic. member worlds and member multi-world entities all have their own legacies and traditions and interests, the lack of outer-rim investment is just one example of the consequences, the complete lack of a galactic-scale defense/security infrastructure, and there are no doubt forces pushing things in an imperial-ish direction via "reform" even without a Sith Lord's machinations. Given the long history of dark-side force users raising armies and spreading chaos, there's also no doubt some who would like to see "force use" of all types banned. So there are many risks the Jedi face on a continuous basis. What's missing from the depiction of a Jedi Order adapting to this situation ( which they've had thousands of years to do ) are a few components: large numbers of sympathizers, washouts, etc... all sorts of people who aren't Force Users who none the less are associated with the order. These are the people who maintain facilities, work all the Logistics, and so on, needed by a galaxy spanning organization operating in a constant low-level threatening environment. Some of this is handled by the Republic, but the Order has "it's own people" too. For every Overt jedi facility there needs to be a covert facility - completely "off the grid" safe-house/safe-fortress type facilities. Large numbers of droid-based combat units and person-operated units need to be in safely hidden storage as well, for those just-in-case moments, especially the ones in space. For every Jedi growing up and operating in the Overt 'exoteric' Order we see in canon, there would be a Jedi who grew up in secret situations, hidden settlements, constantly moving large space craft, etc. These form the Covert 'esoteric' Jedi, no one knows for sure how many or who they are, supported by their own network of non-force using associates. These "Hidden Jedi" make the Order safe against threats like Order 66, as well as allow a large number of Force users to remain separate from the intricacies of galactic civilization and commune deeply with the Force, while another segment become excellent Agent-type operators, able to accomplish complex risky missions without ever visibly using the force... Some individuals move between both the inner and outer Order, but many inner order jedi are only dimly aware of the outer order's existence. Were all the truth known, the galaxy may well have these hidden jedi to thank for their last thousand years of peace. Meanwhile at any time, the galaxy has on the order of 1000 venerable Elder Jedi who've "retired" but now operate a Shadow Council that secretly supports, supplements, guides and complements both the inner and outer aspects of the Order. At the same time there are small clusters of disorganized social groups often entirely unconnected to the jedi cultural traditions... Night Sisters for example... that have found some methodology for interacting with the Force and are able to reliably pass on this 'training' to others. The Jedi policy is to interact positively with such groups, intending to foster mutually beneficial relations. This is not possible with all such groups, sometimes measures have to be taken to prevent them from harming others. In most cases an eye is kept loosely on such groups, and conflict is rare. However, RECENTLY certain elements in the Senate have been pushing an "anti-force use agenda" and have managed build up enough of an up-swelling of concern-trolling to get a law past that says that only the Jedi Order may train talented youth in Force Use. The jedi do not support this law, didn't ask for it, but have no choice but to comply. Mostly nothing changes, but in some special situations this leads to events that are easily twisted into anti-jedi propaganda.

Wait a sec, are you talking about the Jedi or the CIA?

Great job. Hopefully, voters in the US realize the value of checks and balances in our system, too. We shall see.

That room is nice

Connecticut mention: 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

i like how you effortlessly switch in between topics and go on informed / random tangents very fun. NOW ALAN WHAT ASIAN ARE YOU IVE BEEN ASKING FOR MONTHS

So if you go by the end of Path of Destruction the relationship between the Jedi and the senate was defined by a treaties between the two. Also will that independent review be actually impartial or will it be full of that senators cronies who will be hell bent on making the Jedi look bad no matter what they find?

Thank you for explaining his weight in Bald eagles.

Transparency + accountability + ethical policies = win Governments and organizations are meant to serve the constituents. Using the power to blaze the desired path forward to prosperity.

I have a theory. I think the hooded figures in the witches coven were Vinestra and Qimir. They both seem to know too much to not have been there when it all went down.

I have that bone density thing you mentioned. I love to SCUBA dive but I will sink like a stone if I just go out in a body of water

Thanks Ellen👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I always felt the closest analog for the jedi organization was the Knight's Templar. Warrior monks who worked outside the government but also closely with them

A democracy in the Jedi council would probably be a bad idea. They are a religious organization, with a god that is very real and very present, if not always clear, and different people with a different level of connection too that god.

How the hell did you get a place on level 3 I’ve been trying for months now

😄 Practice their magic on Federally-granted land!

1:06 Lol wait, what? Where are you broadcasting from 😅 Idc your channel is still the best star wars channel around!

50 bald eagles? What on earth?

Thanks for another great video and analysis. The hardcore fans defenders of the Jedi as pure and just should look at them from far away... Look at the political and military invo9lvement aspects you mentioned (in several videos), see all extremely expensive infrastructure the Jedi have at their disposal, that does not come for free. The Jedi deviated from their path and became arrogant hypocrites who suffered from an inflexible hierarchy and extreme group thinking. They forcibly took children from their families, ignored suffering in several planets because of their own interests, etc. I could say that their demise was something The Force itself allowed to rebalance itself.

The Jedi’s hubris got in the way. Jedi were suppose to be peace keepers and serve the people. This is where check and balances Ned to be done….

The Knights Templar is also similar in the middle ages!

Finally a civilian watchdog for the Jedi Order!