There was a really good example of a clone having PTSD in rebels. It happens when the Rebels go to Agamar and Rex lays eyes on a super tactical droid. He calls out for Cody and that whole episode, Rex was grumpy. It’s like Kanan said “battles leave scars, some you can’t see”

I like how you mentioned that PTSD isn’t only in military, I’m actually unable to join because I suffer from it because of abuse as a child

Another good example of past humans trying to explain PTSD is an ancient record from ancient Mesopotamia where a soldier suffering from PTSD was diagnosed as being attacked by the ghosts of the enemies he'd killed. Which is both a surprisingly accurate way to think about it, and an example from the past where the sufferer wasn't blamed as somehow weak for suffering from the condition.

The Clones were the most human of the entire franchise. They earned our respect.

It seemed like both Wolf and Kanan had PTSD flashbacks when they saw each other. They both immediately snapped back to Order 66.

Echo has a straight up PTSD flashback in the first episode of The Bad Batch

Fun Fact: Before the prequel trilogy, when there was no information about the clone wars people use to think that Obi-Wan was a clone & that his name was a play on his “designation” OB-1 (OB standing for something like original body). Even though it’s untrue it’s a cool example of the fans showing interest in the wider lore & developing head cannon.

Each of the clones hold a special place in our hearts. Except Fox, especially Fox

"Many have served in the military" That line hit me hard since I've been rewatching SWTCW while waiting to exit the military.

I have PTSD from watching my body just... wither from Leukemia and coming within according to doctors " about ten to fifteen minutes of death if the doctors didn't shoot me full of a hero's dose of chemo. " And I'll have horrible nightmares of waking up in the hospital bed barely able to move again, or being diagnosed with a relapse of Leukemia and knowing I can't win a second round against it.

Didn’t Rex suffered PTSD when he discovered Kalani and his droid forces were still active on Agamar in Rebels?

Because of where I'm at right now, I realize something important: The clones basically experienced Helldivers vs automatons for real.

The fact that the Coruscant stationed clone troopers react too, hints to the dreams being part of them regardless of the clone being at the frontlines. Being stationed on Coruscant should keep the exposure to war at a minimum.

When Tup's chip activates, the boys in the 501st discuss whether it might be some kind of combat fatigue and Kix says something along the lines of "You know we were bred to be resistant to that kind of thing." ...but I guess resistant does not equal immune, and the amount and intensity of the horrific experiences piled on the clones is just too much to overcome.

Courage can’t exist without fear. To much fear can cause trauma. To much trauma leads to PTSD. I suffer from CPTSD

I still have PTSD from when a close friend of mine died to basically even talking about it or anything stressful gives me flashbacks

I'm a US Army Veteran. I served during peace time. I had a period of harassment when I served that when I retell it to someone who will listen I'll "re-live" it and my heart beats out of my chest. I made a service connected claim on it and since I couldn't sit down and write it out or tell it the VA denied my claim. Though weeks before I had to endure the examination I had a huge panic attack and had to go on some heart medication for most of a year. I'm also in a Veteran Support Group that meets every week. Most of the Vets in it are Vietnam Era and man those guys went thru Hell then when they returned they went through some more Hell on the home front. There is a guy in it that I believe was a Navy SEAL and he complains of suffering from PTSD for the last 30 yrs. He's also highly critical of the VA which seems to have a policy of drugging up people who suffer from mental trauma. I think a lot of it is spiritual in nature because when the drugs wear off there's this person who seems possessed who can't sit still or is bent on a self destructive course of action. I've suggested to the people in the Mental Health Department they should have intramural sports there as we were trained as units and we should heal in units too. Btw the series of books that I thought come close to the feeling of being in a military unit was the Republic Commando books by Karen Traviss. I'm also disappointed there wasn't more than one Republic Commando video game. Doesn't Disney just destroy everything they touch? Thanks for the video.

the troopers are very human, no surprise with PTSD affecting them

This has been one of the clearest PTSD explanations, for civilians, I have seen on the web

In addition to combat PTSD, I bet a fair share of clones have TBIs (traumatic brain injuries) from the war. I feel like Crosshair might have developed a TBI from that Venator engineer in season 1 ripping his head open.

While conflated with PTSD during the first World War, during the second it was discovered that "Shell Shock" was its own distinct issue with it's own injuries and symptoms. The name stuck because its very apt. Shell Shock is a neurological injury caused by repeated exposure to sudden increases in overpressure. Individual physiology can greatly effect susceptibility. The symptoms are basically the same as for TBI plus issues with hearing, tinnitus and balance due to unner ear damage, but unlike TBI, can eventually go away if the patient is removed from any place they would be exposed to over pressure quickly enough. Its mostly gone away in the modern war because of the weapons and tactics we use no longer rely on long term saturation shelling/bombing, the typical cause of Shell Shock.

There's another disturbing thing about the Clones themselves. Remember that they are the result of accelerated ageing, but in spite of how they look, there is (at best) a 10 to 13 year old boy inside the body going through all of this. Quite literally an army of adult-looking children.

A clone wars show about any of the other hundreds of clone units and other battles is all I want. We did not get to see enough clone wars in The Clone Wars, nor did we see half the vehicle and units from episode 3

Got into a couple of car crashes in less than one year. Yeah, I believe it can cause PTSD, as car crashes are now an all too often recurring nightmare and constant fear each time I'm on my M-F commute.😢

I never really noticed that about the scene when Tup was dying. The non-Clones in the room all looked to be confused or trying to figure out what he meant. Meanwhile the Clones seemed to be passing glances at each other in understanding. Even if they personally aren't having that recurring nightmare every Clone must know somebody who is.

I served in Syria and have PTSD. Never really thought about Clones getting it till we see the homeless clone in Kenobi. Great video

The Clone Wars especially The Bad Batch resonate with mine own experiences in the Army. I am a retired Green Beret and avid fan of everything Star Wars, but when I started down the path of The Clone Wars, I get a bit emotional. More when you see the random Clones we don’t get to meet die off. I feel at times feel the loss of those die hit the hardest. Seeing the random Ukrainian and Russian soldiers isn’t something I find enjoyable. Understanding warfare is a thing, I now understand life being more complicated especially when there is conflict with opposing views. As a Green Beret, our role was often like that of the Jedi. Serving many roles, military ambassadors, advisors, trainers, and leaders who fought alongside Host Nation troops. We provide additional support that the Host Nation often lacked as well as stand down with local leaders discussing ways to bring about peace in the regions we served. Anyway, not to make this about me, this series definitely hit upon key points of my career and glad to see the silent issues addressed in the form of entertainment.

"The local crackhead has turned against you" 😂😂😂 what the actual hell dude

Ow, saw the title and my copyeditor brain bounced hard off the difference between “Clones can’t get PTSD right” and “Clones can’t get PTSD, right?” But it made me click, so-ok, ok, I’ll sit back down and be quiet and watch the vid.

The chip heightens stored trauma? Yo that’s dark. You should write for Star Wars.

Was having a horrible day and then I got the Generation Tech notif. God sent🙏

In WWI there was a British doctor who tried to treat PTSD for soldiers in the trenches. The problem was that 30% or more soldiers were starting to suffer from it, and rather than admit that there was a problem with what was happening on the front, they started to accuse the soldiers of cowardice and it became institutionalize procedure to not 'treat' it. Instead they used anesthetics like ether or chloroform, or even electroshock treatment. Barbaric.

When Attack of the Clones first came out, people couldn't figure out why I thought the 'mustering' scene... all the clone scenes in the whole movie for that matter, were sad. NOW, more people get it...

Being prior military these videos hit so hard

I do like how you draw parallels between the fictional stories and real life. Without getting emotional, all I'll say is that I really appreciate that.

Felucia was PTSD. "It's been said that the 501st got the best of the war. We also got the worst. On Felucia, the Seps dug their metal heels into the muck of that alien hellhole and dared the Republic to come in after them. So we did, only to be met with month after month of flesh-eating diseases, shrieking nocturnal predators, and other sights that haunt me to this day. Cut off, and for all we knew abandoned by our superiors, our only hope was Aayla Secura, our Jedi commander. Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much."

I heard of one soldier describe his PTSD nightmares as being in Iraq, under fire or running from something. He'd watched a werewolf movie and had a dream of being chased through Baghdad by a werewolf. He knew it was a nightmare, that it didn't happen, but he couldn't stop running until he woke up.

I wonder how many clones had to live on coruscant after their retirement, considering how much the public has been turned against them. Coruscant would probably be the worst place or one of the worst places for clone troopers to be, especially in the lower levels of the planet.Knowing that palpatine made them do many terrible things.

I love how genuinely education this channel can be. Well done!

War, war never changes.

As a non-military guy with PTSD from childhood, I can tell that it changes your life whether you like it or not. Best to face up to it and learn how to live again.

As a veteran, I really like/ agree with what you said about it. we're not just changing our bodies but changing our minds/brains. I appreciate your viewpoint.🙏

Its crazy to think in a few years time you're told "You are the most advanced army ever created, literally. You were MADE to be the best, and you are." To "You have become problematic and too expensive. You are no longer needed, but will be used if you play by our rules, which have become incredibly self serving." PTSD was inevitable with all the sacrifices they made in the name of the Republic willingly and bravely, only to be considered toys that aren't wanted anymore.

The clone wars literally came out right after I PCS’d out of the military due to injuries suffered downrange. Being a Star Wars fan I watched. It cause it was Star Wars content but holy crap did the clone story arcs cement my love for the clones. It’s such a great medium to introduce complex issues surrounding war, soldiers, gov’t, politics, and sacrifice. The very means of what it is to be a soldier. So many arcs of that series resonate with me that it is still my heads down favorite piece of Star Wars and tv in general. I am loving the direction they have been taken it too with the batch, tales of the xxxx, and hopefully a rex show. Live to fight another day boys, life to fight another day….

Of course surviving horrific battles like that would give them PSTD.

Imagine a Clone Wars miniseries written by Lucas, Filoni, n Gilroy, directed by Spielberg, and produced by Tom Hanks like Band of Brothers but in space

David Drake wrote a fantastic book about future commandos dealing with PTSD and how they and he government dealt with it. The book was called “Red Liners”.

I don't think I technically have PTSD, but childhood (and adult) trauma has definitely f**ked up my brain in the form of chronic anxiety, and trust and self esteem issues Sometimes I think chronic anxiety is the most hellish experience in existence. Would rather experience an hour of being-kicked-in-the-balls-pain everyday, TBH. Watching this channel is a nice break from it all. Thanks Generation Tech guy! 🙏

Finn could’ve been a cool character but they wasted him 😩

Dude youre my favorite Star Wars channel you really put a lot of thought behind these and talk about a lot of stuff i never even considered.

Realizing too late that you were actually on the wrong side and you never had a choice in the matter.

Well they ARE still human! Crosshair has it for sure!

This was a very sad but very well made video! Great job Alan! Keep up the good work!

Thanks Alan for this topic. I glad you also included non-vets who also suffer. Thankfully because they were looking at Vets and their PTSD attention started to be focus on non veg also. Good video🌹

The tragedy of the clones had me in tears. Thank you for this video.

As someone with PTSD, it is extremely hard to readjust to normal life and people because you never know who to trust.

I with you Alan, I hope we get a bunch more clone content! Love action, animated, I don't care, just give us more clones!

Great video! Loved your point about the inhibitor chips. Also, there's no need for an apostrophe in the word "Troopers" in the title. 😊

Also the fact that when wrecker said that while he was trying to kill Omega, he was trapped inside his mind trying to stop himself. creepy stuff

This is why I love the Clone War It's more down to earth for both kids and adults could enjoy Besides mandaloria, the other series are not interesting They're more like Saturday am shows 😐

I love your channel your so underrated

Always enjoy your down to earth delivery.

I think this might be one of the best videos explaining how the clones inhibitor chips work and why the clones turned on the Jedi so quickly.

Great video. I am a military veteran myself and I relate with all of the key points you mentioned when discussing PTSD.

In most science fiction stories clones are seen as less than the original in spite of being a copy. And that's displayed often from the opening battle of the war. So many lives lost in what ended up being a proxy war between the Jedi and the Sith.

I dont know if the chip necessarily put the clones into a state rather than just plain overrode their motor functions altogether. Rex was visibly struggling, even was able to call off his men saying he would handle ashoka, before physically shaking from trying to fight off whatever was happening. It was like when it came to the jedi, they were hijacked. But with rebels, and bad batch, its shown that the clones can turn against the empire, which you would think the chips would render that impossible.

As a C-PTSD sufferer...thank you. 😢

Literally teared up sympathizing with the clones

Remember the clone wars Episode when the Jedi got killed by the clone early in the war remember Rex had said that they where bread to withstand trauma

great video per usual

Thanks Allen. Thoughtful as always.

Thanks again for making these videos man

Great video thanks for going over ptsd

The Clone Wars did inpart, motivate my eventual enlistment into the Army. 0:46

Very nice and informative video.

Sometimes it makes me ligit cry because of how fucking deep the inhibitor chips by themselves go...man the dark side didn't fuck around

A viable explanation and worthwhile exploration. Very nice job.

Thanks for putting a sense of what really is going on in these shows (depicting horrible, long lasting, brutal war)

The fact that the clones all had the mission, which I'm assuming is Order 66, on their mind all their life is disturbing.

i agree with you we need that

Altered or not, they're still human, so I'd say yes, definitely, especially given all they've been through 😟

A stellar episode.

Great Job!!!!!

I really hope there are more Clone stories. Honestly, the Clones are some of the best characters in all of cinema.

Its funny and a bit annoying at times when my college classmates find out I was in the Marines. One asked me once what was the worst thing I had ever expereinced while in. I usually dont say anything to negative, yet I was on new meds and I had a moment of vulnerability. I straight up said the worst thing I had expereinced was watching my friend die in my arms. Couldnt even hear crickets in the room.

There’s a good example of this in American Sniper. When he’s back from a tour and at a birthday party, Chris’ PTSD kicks in and he finds himself ready to kill a kid that was being a nuisance. This isn’t him, it’s the trauma taking over his actions, much like what the inhibitor chips would have done to the clones.

The clones that “”retired”” need a series or something

Yes! We need a live action of the clones.👍🏾💯 That's another series.

Facing the horrors of war was easy. We did it together. But, failure to save your buddies...It burns into your soul. You lose your fear, become hyper focused on fighting, You push harder.... Folks back home see our behavior and are scared. And it only begins to make sense once we walk away and try to stop. Working through it all. It takes years. Best of luck. Phil

Great video. Any chance you could list the music you use in the description? Keep up the good work.

13:10 If you're not with me, then you're my enemy!

8:00 don’t bring it up!! The pain!!

This is an excellent video.

Another factor that plays into the idea of them being outnumbered and almost constantly on the front lines is that a lot of times PTSD doesn't present itself until the person has left the combat zone or the service, Although ofcourse their exceptions but I always thought that the real problems would start post war when the clones are discharged.

One thing to keep in mind, PTSD can take YEARS to develop, say a car crash happened 6 years ago, you could be living your life, slightly shaken up for a few days only for it subside. Fast forward a few years, you can experience something else, and compounded with your previous experience, may result in the formation of PTSD. One case, a police officer who was at ground zero on 9/11, didn’t suffer any nightmares, until his brother passed away in a plane accident in the 2010s. His brother’s accident brought back the trauma of sept 1st, even tho it was years prior. Show some love to your local first responder, the job gets horrific at times

Very good video

While I was in the what happened to the Clones made me take a good long look in the mirror and ask myself “if I was ever in the same position would I ever know it?”

The Clone’s Brotherhood is truly inspiring.

A clone retirement planet should have been part of the program. Also, I have never been frightened into doing parkour.

I would love to see a band of brothers style series of certain unpopular clone battalion on an invasion of like Minbam or something