there would either be no prequels, or prequels that would be acid trips compared to what we got.

As a life long fan, until ep 1-3 I wasn't fully sure what Leah said. Clone or colonial wars. I'm happy it was the former and it got explained.

@@Eric-ch6gq I mean it kinda also could be considered colonial wars, considering that human planets were on both sides. Don't know how many aliens of the same species fought against eachother tho.

@@rance2799 it was kind of a colonial issue. The Separatist argument was basically the American colonies arguments when they started the war of independence. I was just speaking to a misunderstanding I had when I first watched the movie.

Here are some changed facts - I read in a magazine article that originally the Clones from the Clone Wars were going to be the Army that fought against the Jedi & The Republic. This was back in '86 or '87 when I read the article. I think George changed it so the Jedi weren't constantly cutting down "people"......but instead then have the Clones turn on them at the end like we saw. Darth Vader would have fought Obi-Wan on the edge of a volcano until he fell in on the side catching fire as Obi-Wan walked away because the smoke was too thick to see Vader crawl into an empty lava tube for safety. Han was suppose to die saving everyone at the end of Return (Revenge) of the Jedi. The Emperor was not going to be a force user. Just an evil corrupt politician. So no rule of two. No Sith. Just light side force users and dark side force users. Either Vader or Obi-Wan killed Luke's father. Don't know for sure because one was a fake script.... Luke and Leia weren't twins. Luke had a sister, but she was hidden somewhere else. Luke would have turned to the dark side until his sister showed up to save him back to the good side!!! Oh, and NO Ewoks! It would have been Wookies on the Endor Moon. This could have been good if fleshed out and tightened up a bit. I am glad what we got though. The Ewoks could have been more vicious so that it showed they could fight the empire. Either way, I grew up with the O.T. and I love it!!!!

We have no backstory on really any of them

Id imagine not all of them saw action during the cw but your right most of them would certainly be vets

You stole my profile photo :,(

Several of them were Temple Guards not true Jefi.

@@thebigbear4696 The Temple Guards are jedi.

I thought it was Konstantine he disobeyed Thrawn's orders and broke formation or something. I don't remember correctly from zero hour, sorry

A military loss almost never comes down to one event or non-event. In actuality Thrawn would most win if either of those events happen in isolation but together and the rebellion lives to fight another day. Ezra escapes but Thrawn isn't ordered to capture the leadership. He'd of been able to just batter the base shield down shot the base up for a bit make sure to take out all the starships and send in the group forces to them capture or kill the survivors. Ezra and the Mandarins would have needed to not only take out the second Interdictor but also emergency medical evacuation.

@@Montblanc12 Konstantine was commanding an Interdictor-Class Star Destroyer, which prevented ships from jumping into Hyperspace. When he disobeyed orders and got his ship destroyed, it opened a gap where Ezra’s ship could escape and get reinforcements to destroy the other Interdictor. When both of them were gone, the rebels were free to escape.

Honestly Yularen’s death is something I could be fine being retconned. I mean, they just have to say something like “He decided to evacuate because he knew the rebels would win” or something

@@Commander_Appo Except how would he know that would happen? The Battle of Yavin was very nearly a complete Imperial victory, if not for the unexpected space wizard farmboy getting a 1/1,000,000 shot on a weak point nobody knew about. It was stupid to put so many senior Imperial officers in one place sure but in any other scenario the Death Star wouldn't have been destroyed.

I mean, the Kaminoans/Empire’s first mistake was not seeing how independent Rex was

Weirdly enough, they didn't suck at stopping actual criminals. In the canon Thrawn Trilogy, Yularen had ISB agents infiltrating all sorts of criminal gangs and gathering intel on actual smugglers and pirates. Thrawn and the 7th fleet were very proficient at stopping all acts of piracy, and smuggling.

The Empire didn’t have Jedi…

Well experience in the clone wars doesn’t help a lot because while the droids embodied conventional warfare The rebellion used completely different tactics that were rarely used against the republic in the clone wars

Clones were never meant to be a police force. They were just a disposable entity to eliminate the Jedi.

i knew about Tarkin and Vader

Um, we don’t actually see these two minor clones after the Clone Wars. It can be implied they served the Empire for awhile if they survived the war, but so far besides the clones we see in Revenge of the Sith and the Bad Batch, there have not been many other confirmations.

I thought Oddball died during the Umbara arc?

@@radyrara Umbara was before Coruscant though. So how would Kenobi hail Oddball if he was dead?

@@metroidhunter965 I haven’t looked it up yet, but I assumed it was a different clone since I believe Oddball died on Umbara.

@@metroidhunter965 I take back my previous thought. I was mixing up Oddball with Hardcase.

He pretty much *did* figure out they were married in Thrawn: Alliances (no twins yet at that point though)

he did exactly that bruh

Don't forget Ysarrd. The guy with the red uniform.

Gilad Pellaeon also served the Republic as an Acclamator Captain during the Clone Wars. Seeing how he's canon again, he should be a fit for the list.

Actually a lot of the officers he killed weren’t that useful anyways

Most of those who suffered his wrath were corrupt or incompetent. They either didn't deserve their position or were ineffective at doing their task. Take a look at the difference between how he views General Veers and Admiral Ozzel. He respected Veer's perspective and considered his tactical advice, while he routinely ignored and was annoyed by Ozzel. There were only a few actually useful officers were felled by his hand.

They mainly hated the new Stormtroopers for not being as good as them. Cody in Legends laments how the Stormtroopers he had to train in the academy were generally not as efficient as the army of babies bred for war. Most of the clone's dislike was rather unjustified and could be seen as a something more akin to how boomers hate the newer generations for not being like them.

@@electricfeverx976 l see your point but the generations that came after the boomers Could have been just as good as their parents and grandparents. This is more like Khan looking down on Kirk because he was genetically enhanced.

He was actually on the Death Star in Episode 4 even before Rebels. His name was listed as one of the Imperial officers there, Dave just fleshed his past during the Clone Wars out.

@@electricfeverx976 I know o was just wondering if that was always the intent.

In the comic he showed Plo Koon kept getting mad at him for his tactics he was using.

Yularen actually did good under the Empire. Instead of spreading fear or oppressing the locals, the agents under him helped infiltrate and gather intel on actual criminal gangs and aided in stopping them.

@@electricfeverx976 still joined the wrong side

@@thorpeaaron1110 Empire didn't start the war. Terrorists like Andor did.

The story is already in a novel, it would be unnecessary to do live-action series which could retcon the novel.

If it was for Star Wars there's very few good Imperials because nuance isn't marketable. However the Empire still has some good apples, with the easiest ones being Grand Admiral Thrawn, Captain Pellaeon and Colonel Yularen . A minor character worth noting is Grand Moff Ardus Kaine, the least oppressive moff in the entire Empire who did his best to manage his sector of space without needlessly harrassing the locals.

Although stormtroopers were not as good as clones that doesn’t mean they were crap your average stormtrooper was more effective than your average soldier in the USA or the uk or France just read the novel allegiance and it will reinvigorate my point

No he was just incompetent, he wasn't a secret Rebel, he just assumed they didn't have long range scanners and not be able to detect their arrival.

his clones did not receive "execute order 66" transmission ;)

@@MehrumesDagon Oh, they weren't on the mailing list. Very handy, really. 👍

He was always the exception, when Palpatine activated the order, Anakin was excluded from being a Jedi.

Maybe the order only applied to Jedi Masters ;-)

Disney did not partcipiated that Cody work with the empire, Disney was only keep Cody as a Hero, Not a Villain. We will see that Cody remove his chip in the trailer in D23.

He's coming back in the Bad Batch Season 2

for what?