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Disney: *makes a mockery of Luke's New Jedi Order* Everyone: "And we took it personally."

The New Jedi Order/Jedi Praxeum of Luke Skywalker. It was the most resilient, efficient and free in galactic history, and produced the most powerful Jedi of all time like Kyle Katarn, Kyp Duron and Jaina Solo Fel.

The Old Republic Era is my favorite, partially due to the MMO I can't lie. I feel they were most aware of the flaws and contradictions that lay at the heart of the Order; Satele Shan even goes so far as to ally with Darth Marr, and even reach a deeper understanding of the Force at a level not seen since the days of the old Je'daii. I feel that if her ideals had been explored more post-Zakuul, the Republic could have seen greater stability and even forge a peace with Darth Alcina, who was certainly more pragmatic than any of her forebears as Emperor. That said, the pure romantic pseudo-Taoist overtones of the Je'daii era appeals to me in a deep way, and it's an era I'd love to see explored in more detail somewhere.

The flexibility of the High Republic Jedi is what I love the most about them. You could be a Wayseeker and not have to abide by the Council, if you’re Elzar Mann and touch the dark side you could be brought back to the light through care and meditation. The Nameless and the Nihil Crisis are really interesting challenges and I’m excited to see how they’ll conclude.

I like the Old Republic Jedi the most, because it faced a powerful Sith Empire and it felt like they were fighting for something, and each Jedi had to push themselves to succeed. I also like the idea of an isolated world for Jedi, who would send members out on missions into the galaxy and when those members returned they would bring new experiences, but also find a stable "home" to return to and reconnect with the core and peace of the order's connection to the force, in balance.

I like the Jed'aii and Lukes' New Jedi order best because they actually follow what they believe in rather than encourage force sensitive people into becoming Sith through a complete lack of connection of any kind.

Luke's order was so successful that it took the terrible power of Disney to destroy them.

Old Republic Era sweeps, truly was the peak of the Jedi Order across all eras, where they had hundreds if not thousands of great many knights let alone masters that dwarfed even the best masters in the Republic era Jedi order, the rich lore and truely impressive history of what the OR Jedi order achieved, makes the clone wars look like a insect battle.

I remember that the Jedi Order is not exactly unified as there were some splinter groups such as the Green Jedi of Corellia.

The whole topic of the Jed'Aii is a little spotty. Among Star Wars fans, there are two main debated meanings for balance in the Force. Some fans believe that there is indeed two sides to the Force, a light and dark, and that over-reliance on either side causes imbalance. They would agree that the Jed'Aii were in the right to attempt to control both light and dark. However, some fans state that rather than viewing the light and dark as two equal sides, it's a description of force users interact with the Force. They say the light "side" is putting the Will of the Force before your own, thus bringing balance, and that the dark "side" is putting your own will before the Force, causing imbalance. They would say that the Jed'Aii's incorrect view of the force would cause their inevitable collapse, and that other Jedi orders simply lost their way to bureaucracy from such long periods of peace. I myself am not certain which view is correct, but it's interesting to know.

My bias will forever be towards the Old Republic Era because I have spent so many years playing the KOTOR games and the MMO. I love the stories, the setting and the overall galactic conflicts brewing during this time period because it is interesting to see how this period really impacted what was to come in the "modern" time with the movies. I have always found the balance aspect of the force to be the most interesting and as you noted in the video, even when fighting each other or not fighting each other, the two sides of the force always seem to have this need for the other's presence to find their purpose. Without the darkness, the light strays from its path and without the light, the darkness tears itself apart.

I highly ♡ The Old Republic (Legends version) & Luke's jedi order (EU/Legends) more than the current Disney Canon ones, honestly!

Obviously the New Jedi Order from Legends. Luke Skywalker, Mara Jade Skywalker, Leia Organa Solo, Kyle Katarn...the list goes on.

Old Republic Jedi were so powerful I gotta go with them.

Jed'aii in my opinion had the deepest understanding of the Force in its entirety, not focusing on either aspects but recognising that both are equally important. It was repeated time and again throughout the history that the greatest of them all studied both light and the dark at some point of their lives. Furthermore the shortcomings of one side are remedied by the other: destructive overreliance on emotions could be remedied by light side practices and the reverse applies too, where emotional detachment of the light could be mitigated by dark side. The Light and the Dark are like two sides of the same coin or two ends of a stick. You can't have one without the other.

I'm a huge fan of the Old Republic Jedi. They seem to be a little bit relaxed on the more draconian rules you see in the high republic era, but yeah, the constant wars do make progress either jump forward faster or stagnate. Never a middle ground.

Luke's praxeum also sought out different understandings of the force while constantly evolving the Jedi's concepts to continue to find balance between the cosmic force and unifying force

I think it is very interesting how the Jedi varied so much. The Jedi Order we know in the clone wars was probably one of the most messed up periods of Jedi history

Really shows how the Jedi have fallen and come back. Oh wait that was only in Legends.

I absolutely love how the Jedi were just before the Great Sith War. There was the High Council on Coruscant, but they had less power than later. You had Jedi Praxeums like Vodo Siosk-Baas one on Dantooine who trained 3 apprentices there, Arca Jeth's Praxeum on Arkania and the Great Library on Ossus. The Jedi felt like independent agents, peacekeepers and warriors when needed. After Exar Kun and Ulic's fall the Jedi became paranoid.

My favorite is the NJO Era😢😢😢

It’s a shame we lost the new republic Jedi Order. Genuinely think it was one of the cooler eras to be a Jedi.

Quick correction. Among the Jed'aii, if a person fell too far to the light they were sent to Ashla, and if too much to the dark, to Bogan. The idea was that they would see the opposite moon in the sky and use it as a focus point to center back in that direction. If I were too far to the dark, I would see Ashla in the sky and use it as a focus to move more into the direction of the light.

After reading a bit about the Je'dii I gravitated to that period. I approved of the families of Je'dii. The training made more sense. Drawing from the book I read. I'd like to read, or hear, more of that period and earlier.

Luke skywalker's jedi order legends

We honestly don't know all that much about Lukes Jedi Order in the new cannon. There is a massive gap of time of that story left untold.

The Old an Original Eras seemed to definitely have it best. You forgot the Luke's Post Empire Order that apparently ALSO did it VERY well too. Almost recapturing the glory of the Original an Olde Republic Orders that their successors messed up

My personal preferences are the Je'daii since their understanding of "Balance of the Force" makes the most sense to me and Luke's New Jedi Order from Legends since it based itself on the old Jedi Order while also learning from its mistakes. While I personally prefer SWTOR and its time period (as well as any other before the Baneite Sith in Legends) over the post-Endor time periods, the Jedi Order in that game/time period doesn't stand out to me too much. While not as bad as the Prequal Jedi Order or KOTOR Jedi Order, my two least favorite versions of the Jedi Order, they still show a lot of the flaws from both those eras.

For me it’s either the old republic Jedi (madalorian wars-galactic wars era) or the NJO although I do like many of the clone wars era Jedi (ahsoka, anakin, obiwan, etc)

Out of Mentioned eras, my favourite is the old republic era as the Jedi order managed to whether such monumental and challenging threats and enemies, that might have destroyed and continue to serve the republic and come back stronger and better as an order after each crisis. Though if the New Jedi Order from EU had been included in the list, then they would have toped the old republic era for me.

It’s crazy how far your set up has come within just a years time from just your room and a tv to a fancy ass new background for every video lol

You hit the nail on the head. The Jedaii were the most ideologically true and ideal. But the Old Republic Jedi Order was the most powerful and adaptable force. It withstood multiple near genocides and was the difference between the Republic failing and salvation.

Canon or not, the New Jedi Order Luke created definitely is the best version it can be. Wise enough to know that swaying to either extreme is bad. Compassionate enough to still be willing to involve themselves in the galaxy at large rather than hiding away in some tiny corner ignoring all other things. Intelligent enough to not slave itself to the New Republic as it had been in the Old. It ticked almost all of the right boxes while avoiding some of the worst pit falls of the former Orders throughout galactic history. Is it perfect? No. But I think it's as close as a Jedi Order can ever get to it.

No love for Legacy Era (150+ BBY) With Cade Skywalker and the Imperial Knights?

Honestly have no idea how you pull interesting videos out of this franchise at this rate. WTF man.

My favorite is OG (a very loose connection between very powerful and interesting force wielders; Nomi Sunrider is the most underrated Star Wars character), but NJO was also pretty great.

Which Vitiate in your opinion is him at his best. Building up the Sith Empire. Leading the Sith Empire. Or abolishing both the Republic and Empire with the Eternal Throne?

Most likely the ancient J-E-di is probably my favorite. Sorry if my spelling of Jedi is messed up.

I've never read the Disney comics. But what you seem to be saying is that Jedi kidnapping folks goes all the way back to the OG Jeedai being kidnapped? Quite the illustrious history of kidnapping there...

You should have talked about legends more, especially Luke’s Jedi Order. I’ve become less and less satisfied with Disney’s canon, and am really interested in legends. I am also lazy and don’t want to a) figure out what books/comics to read and b) don’t want to read, and your channel is an awesome way to learn about Star Wars in a really concise, digestible way. Anyway, you should talk about Luke’s Jedi Order, I want to learn more about them and I think other people do too.

You’re way off on when the old republic era began since it started with the founding of the republic and ended in 1,000 bby. The old republic Jedi were around way before the great sith war. you completely overlooked the second great schism/100 year darkness that lasted from 7,000 bby to 6,900 bby (which resulted in the sith order) and the great hyperspace war, the Jedi were involved both times.

The thumbnail reads og old high clone and thats just the best

Of the versions presented here, I would definitely say the Old Republic Era Jedi are the best. Yes, they were flawed, but every time they got beaten up they picked themselves off the ground and kept trying. That's an admirable quality.

Should include Legends Luke Era.

Can you do a video comparing Legends Luke’s New Jedi Order against the Jed’ai order? I just don’t like the idea of canon where they basically have this chance for a new order going back to its roots but it just gets destroyed immediately by Kylo Ren. I don’t know much about Legends after the battle of Yavin except that there was a race called the Yhuzaan Vong that brought the new republic and Jedi order to the brink of collapse, Luke married someone named Mara Jade, Palpatine returned, and I guess one of the skywalker or Solo kids turned evil like Kylo Ren did in canon. But I’d love to know if Luke’s order did survive and if it was more true to what the Jedi initially sought to be during the era of the jed’ai.

Could you please cover the Exosquad

A Star Wars video sponsored by a Star Trek game Roddenberry must be spinning in his grave fast enough to use as a Warp Drive.

What if one of the ancient Sith Lords came back to the to the modern galaxy, which one would you want?

I feel like the Jedi would have done best as an enclosed monastic order, that on occasion dealt with force threats or issues and then stayed out of the republic

The OG order was lead by the lead Singer of Megadeth …

I thought this video was about the first batch of clones getting high on spice.

EU Legends New Jedi Order superior. Disney New Jedi Order inferior.

P.S. Whenever I look back at all of the amazing Star Wars stories and characters (Pre Disney Era), I get pretty bummed out. I just don't understand why they made the decisions they ultimately made; that goes for Marvel too.

Yes. More Star Wars content, thanks Alan

I think it was the Old Republic era in a way it was when the Jedi were at there best when being constantly tested by the Sith and the Mandalorians, many of the greatest Jedi to ever exist were in this era and the Order itself was the most active compared to the isolationist Je'daai, the lazy High Republic era, or the blind Clone Wars era Jedi. The Old Republic era Jedi took initiative they in some form or another were on the front lines of every major conflict and they had looser restrictions on entering compared to future orders. While there were times when they were weak such as against the Brotherhood of Darkness or when the Triumvirate appeared even then the best of the order would appear to restore balance.

1.Luke’s Jedi praxeum 2.Je'daii order 3.Old republic Jedi 4.Prequel era Jedi 5. High republic Jedi

I liked KOTOR 1 & 2, but I wish it looked more like in the comics - or having been set in an entirely different time frame. 500 years later would have been sufficient.

I have this for you to think, Alan. Should the Republic remained in just the Core Worlds and allowed the rest of the galaxy to form their nation states and govern themselves? As for which version of the Jedi Order I like the best, it's definitely going to be the one during the Old Republic era.

I don't understand why so many Star Wars fans dislike the High Republic content.

Luke's Jedi Order was the best in my opinion. But since you've chosen the dark side and only went with Disney "canon" then I'd say Old Jedi Order going on those parameters.

I really can't decide.

For me, the Old and New Republic Jedi (both from EU) was best.

Aahh... So that's what Bendu (SW: Rebels) was referring to, with Ashla and Bogan! Nifty ☺️

Wait, your sponsor is a star Trek entity? Glad to see this!

Post Episode XII Jedi my favorite, helping when needed and focused more on the great rebuilding of the galaxy

Im going to go with the old republic just because of how powerful they are

My personal favourite would be the Clone Wars era Jedi even though they were oblivious to the sith and forget their place in the war and their involvement in politics but a few jedi of the order did demonstrate what true Jedi should be, Ahsoka, Plo Koon, Obi Wan, Quinlan Voss etc. The New Jedi order of Luke's/Surviving Jedi of Order 66 i find really interesting i love Kanan, Cal, and the survivors guilt Yoda, Kenobi and Ahsoka carry. Even the Inquisitors being fallen Dark Jedi with the majority forced into it rather than choosing it out of survival. The most successful debatably the Old Republic Jedi they literally defeated the sith in spectacular battles grand in scale and the sheer amounts of jedi and sith is amazing to see. I didn't realise there was so much militarisation. The High Republic I'm definitely getting interested in and their transition of becoming so dogmatic. Don't know anything about the Jed'aii but with their ignoring of issues of those weaker/non force sensitive goes against the peace keeping nature of the Jedi I've known.

Clone wars era Jedi order is my favorite because of yoda, Kenobi, Ahsoka Tano and Anakin Skywalker. 14:03

13:17 I thought Story Group hated anti-force things because it breaks Force lore and used it as a dunking point against Legends. Then they just ripoff the idea and don't credit Timothy Zahn 😕

The Jed'aii were a self-licking ice cream cone. They weren't at peace, they were self-absorbed.

The Je'Daii philosophy always sound the best, but at the end they were self righteus morons so high in their addiction to Tython that they constantly screw it up in any major conflict in which they had to deal with a bigger galaxy. The OR ones were interesting but so complex and with to many factions to consider them a single entity. Same with the three eras of the High Republic, being one of the most interesting ones by how much different points of view of the Force they offer (and it isn't true that they didn't face any conflict, there were 1000 years of peace because they faced and solved A LOT of conflicts, not being even the most prominent force organization in the galaxy at the half of that time). Luke's Academy still had a lot to show, but through The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Rise of Kylo Ren and Sequel Trilogy we know it gave a lot of importance to attachments, and how it depended in one single person (Luke) so much that he only have to do a big mistake to bring it destruction

A Star Wars video sponsored by Star Trek. I literally did not see that coming.

The Jed’aii order was the best, because its doctrine was for the individual to find the balance between both the light and dark sides of the force within themselves. By embracing both sides, the individual becomes whole within the force.

The jed"aii was the best. One must have balance in all things when dealing with the force. Allen is right though being isolated and not helping others is a huge weakness. The old republic era Jedi is a strong contender. They were militaristic and very strong force wielders. All this made them very formidable. In my opinion the most badass. However they were extremists and the darkest form the Jedi order would ever be. It's amazing that more siths wasn't created during that time.

The old republic for sure was the best era overall

You're not only giving a history of the Jedi and Sith but the galaxy at large and why technology stagnated for a few thousand years. The Jedi Sith Wars.

3:10 Bro, Dinosaurs in Star Wars is amazing.

Now do a completely legends version, OG, Old Republic, Clone Wars, and Luke's Jedi Order

This is a really good question. I'm going to enjoy this one.

So there was actually a chance that Revan never fell to the dark side completely at all (until SWTOR ruined the set up) but that Revan had just embraced both sides and play the longest con. To strengthen the Republic and the Jedi to prepare for the true Sith empire he discovered hiding beyond the outer rim. He did all the horrible things to save the galaxy and unite it for a greater purpose.

The Jedi Order of the unwritten era between ~25,000 bby and 7,000 bby deserves some mention.

In terms of power, the Jedi Order of the Great Hyperspace War is probably the strongest. They not only had regular Jedi be well-versed in complicated powers like Battle Meditation, but they also fought off a Sith Empire led by a Sith Order that had all sorts of powers and magics from Battle Meditation that spawned illusions that can kill you and fool scanners, to blowing up star systems. Their victory over the Sith Empire was so total and crushing that they began genociding the Sith people and species right afterwards. If it wasn't for the quick actions of one Lord Vitiate, the Sith people and ideology as a whole would've ceased to exist. The Jedi Order of the Exar Kun War/Mandalorian Wars/Jedi Civil War era are the second strongest, since while they are not as strong as their ancient counterparts, a splinter faction from their group decimated the Mandalorians at the height of their power, and these Jedi still had powers that could allow them to dominate battlefields, like a Light Side version of Force Lightning that can devastate droids, or the ability to strip a Force-user of his ability to use the Force. Imagine if Mace Windu and his mates did that to Palpatine instead of drawing their lightsabers. That would've ended the threat of the Sith rather easily. Not to mention Jedi decimating droid armies with the Light Side would've made the lives of clone troopers much easier in the Clone Wars. In terms of social order and organization, the SWTOR-era/Great Galactic War-era Jedi Order is the best, given that they look the other way when it comes to people having relationships, and they even accept turncoat Sith without question, like Lord Scourge and Lord Praven. I suppose it had something to do with their leader, Satele Shan, having had attachments in the past, but they don't give a damn if say, the Bar'sen'thor or the Hero of Tython start dating. They're also more accepting of a military role for themselves, making them ideal in a war; they accepted the burden of military leadership rather quickly, accepting an ancient law that gives the Jedi military leadership in the Republic, and their guys have no problem wearing heavy durasteel armor suited for warfare and melee combat. In terms of freedom, the New Jedi Order seems to have it right, at least in the old canon. Luke Skywalker looked at what worked and what didn't work with the old Jedi Order, and he set up his new Jedi Order which allows Dark Side experiments and relationships so that what happened with his father Anakin wouldn't happen again in his new order. And it worked; the Jedi are capable of using Dark Side powers without getting corrupted in most cases, and the fact that they have relationships freely means that they can grow more Jedi quicker, as well as keep people in the Order who want to get married and have kids.

Balance is not 50% light and 50% dark. Balance is 100% The Force and 0% the Dark Side. George Lucas compared the Dark Side to a parasite, saying "a cancer takes without giving back, eventually causing the death of both parties." The Dark Side *is* imbalance. It cannot coexist with The Force, because it's a poison to it. The point of SW is that living selfishly (giving into the dark side) is bad and living compassionately (like a Jedi) is good. I like nuance as much as the next girl, but sometimes the nazis murdering children are actually just the bad guys and the moral is just that you shouldn't be like that.

Frankly I’m down with simply saying the last movies are nothing more than an Alternate history . As for the Jedi order I’ll say the original looks like winner to me

I would say it was the High Republic. They are what Jedi should be.

Kinda hoping we get a Sith Version of this video, One Sith is honestly the best version in my opinion

Imo probably the Army of Light era. That's when the Jedi really lived the Warrior Monk life

It's Je'daii, not "Jed'aii". Also Tho Yor, not "Thor Yor". As well, those who leaned too far to the Light were sent to Ashla to look upon and contemplate Bogan, and vice-versa for the Dark, bring sent to Bogan to contemplate Ashla. Not meaning to be a dick, just pointing out things that can be found through diligent research. Overall still a very good video.

Luke's New Jedi Order in Legends

I think you should make a video talking about Luke's Jedi Order (from Legends) because it is really an interest Order

I think the best Jedi Order would be a combination of The High Republic and the Old Republic Eras

OG Old High Clone was my nickname in prison

Luke's New Jedi Order in legends was totally awesome. But according to Disney, Luke's version was a failure but somehow Rey Palpatine is gonna recreate another order 15 years in the future and make it awesome. Can you imagine the insult?

You should’ve definitely covered Luke’s Jedi order in legends. I much prefer Legends to canon anyway

Interesting how the fear resulting in the Padawan massacre did come to pass, but much, much later. Hindsight at its best.

Which other light side force organization rivaled the jedi in your opinion

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Side question, has there ever been a number given for the percentage of force sensitives vs normal? In a galaxy of quadrillions, we have a sliding scale. During open war, it seems to be a small-ish contingent, but still enough to man both sides. During peace it seems like there's an even smaller recruit base (even w the lowering of standards during war, agricorp etc). So what happens to the others? It seems like there should be a whole lot more force traditions than has been covered even in legends. And they don't have to be "high power" in that traditional sense. The falanassi weren't, but I wouldn't underestimate em. Seems like every planet or system should have evolved, even in secret, it's own force groups. Even if theyre completely bush league. Then again, against the background of jedi/sith conflicts, it might be wise to be low profile.