Thrawn is so likeable because he wasn't pawn of anyone. He was his own person, he had his goals and ambitions, and had his own way of going through things and and getting them done. Cold, calculating, but not ruthless and brutal. Fair and understanding. Phenomenal character.

The sequel trilogy should have been the og thrawn trilogy, change my mind

The empire wouldn't have been as evil as it was. Palp was a phyco as so was Vader and Tarken. Thrawn was cold calculating genius, wasn't evil. It would have been pretty interesting

Thrawn can probably beat both Admiral Ackbar and Admiral Trench if he has enough prep time like Batman.

“It’s the ultimate tragedy in Star Wars, if you ask me” *Sad Darth Plagueis noises*

*_Thrawn's not dead._*

Thrawn is a great foil for "the good guys" because he's not really a villain. He's one of the good guys too, he just works for Empire rather than the rebels. If the Empire had more Trawns, there'd not be as much to rebel against.

Thrawn: Leads Empire Sheeve: Wait you weren't suppose to do that

Thrawn is literally the blue lovechild of Spock and Erwin Rommel

Thrawn: "There are things in the universe that are simply and purely evil. A warrior does not seek to understand them, or to compromise with them. He seeks only to obliterate them."

The legends Thrawn was even more impressive. Timothy Zahn did a great job developing his character. The Thrawn trilogy is a must read!

We need a “*Thrawn*” that is very *good.* Who would take the torch of our gestalt of Alexander, Napoleon, and others.

Thrawn at Yavin: Launch the ties. All 7200 of them.

Imagine a Star Wars with well crafted villains that have true motivations other than "we are the bad guys".

Thrawn wasn't "cut down"... he's MIA, like Ezra.

My ELA teacher told my class to write an essay about what villain would do on their day off. I chose Thrawn, the best Imperial officer, and the one villain who doesn't take days off.

Have you heard of the tragedy of Admiral Thrawn? I thought not. Admiral Thrawn was a master tactician, so calculated and wise that he could think 8 steps ahead... He had such knowledge of battle strategy that he managed to save the Chiss, and potentially, almost the empire. He was so intelligent... that his only fear was losing a battle, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, little did he know, he was about to face his biggest enemy of his career. It's ironic actually... he was the greatest tactician who ever lived, defeating countless enemies, but he couldn't save himself from space whales.

TL;DW answer: Thrawn would have outplayed and outgambitted all of his enemies, the Vong would be screwed, and Palpatine would be impressed.

Cool video but Thrawn(canon version) is still alive and missing in action. So it should be Thrawn escaped from the Space Whales and return back to Imperial space then command the Empire.

I think it would have been nice to see Thrawn in a clone wars episode or have him as the final boss rather than Palpatine in the rise of skywalker

I didn't know that Grand Admiral Thrawn starred in tentacle p*rn

Only watched the opening so far and agree...Thrawn was an amazing and interesting character in the EU and had a great effect on the Galaxy even after he died ( his protege who's name I can never spell right went on to be a super badass himself ) and I was really happy when I first heard he was in Rebels and thus was canon again... until I saw the episodes he was in and I was like 'Who is this guy? Some random Chiss took Thrawn's name and rank? Did they even read the books or ask Zahn for tips on writing him? Apparently not...'

I liked how they took him out. It was exactly because he was such a military genius and so brilliant hat something so outlandish had to be used. Through out history, the best military commanders have only been beaten by being massive underdogs, or by something they just could predict and thus couldn't counter. That's why I actually loved how they handled beating Thrawn. There was no way even he could have seen that coming.

>Looks at title Me: Oh, you mean what happened in canon

the myth, the man, the legend, MITTH'RAW'NURODO!

Them removing Thrawn from the region in Rebels was actually good. It fixed the dilemma of what to do with him after the emperor is dead. It leaves the ability to use him in the future without having to answer questions like "hey, where was he during X"

Thrawn did have a blind spot for _the competence and loyalty of_ his underlings and fellow imperials. He didn't realise that Admiral Konstatine was a complete tool and glory hound. If Thrawn had followed imperial culture and protocols in that respect he would've had him dealt with earlier, or even just give a direct order to Konstatine's crew to relieve him of command, by blaster if necessary as soon as he deviated. And in legends he definately had poor judgement in choice of bodyguards… Thrawn just wasn't as good at treachery as other high ranking imperials, probably because he got to his position purely by ability, without any backstabbing. Which meant he wasn't as good at defending against it. He was vulnerable in that department, and in the long term his only real hope lay in the fact that imperials more devious in politics than him would champion him and watch his back, since they felt safer with him in charge than anyone else. Having Thrawn as your commander was a lot less stressful than having Vader as your direct superior. You'd protect Vader from treachery because if Vader found out he'd kill you for not stopping it. You'd protect Thrawn cause he would try to not get you killed, and would tolerate even bad luck on your behalf if you had made a honest attempt. But without the protection of the Emperor, Thrawn would have had to face down other ambitious imperials… apparently he just didn't spend enough time *_admiring Imperial Art._*

SW Rebels did a wonderful job depicting Thrawn so much that Dave Filloni went to Timothy Zhan (The original creator to Thrawn) to let him decide on what he thought about it. Zhan was excited to see his character finally get the spotlight that he deserved. In reality, I think it was for the best to have the space whales carry him off. Thrawn is such a powerful character as it is that it makes more sense to have come back after the Battle of Endor. Let's hope that Disney and Filloni bring Thrawn back in live-action and make him more than just a villain.

If Thrawn was around for the original trilogy, the Rebel Alliance, Jedi, and Sith would go the way of Legends. Also I liked how Rebels depicted Thrawn until the end of season 4.

Thrawn looks a lot like _Richard E Grant…_ The ultimate Disney casting tease. [We all thought he was, when announced, even you Allen].

It makes me think if Thrawn was commander of the Executor instead of Ozzal, how different the battle of Hoth would be. One big change is Thrawn would have insisted on having Interdictor Cruisers in the fleet.

For those of us who played the old pc games on floppy discs, we remember the when the tie defenders became available... The love of piloting one... and the hate of being against them

You seem to forget that (Spoiler warning) at the end of the book "Treason", the Emperor told Thrawn to return to Coruscant after he finishes his mission to Lothal, for a personal meeting, with the insinuation that Palpatine was getting pretty sick of Thrawn's shit. The book makes it seem like Thrawn might have been executed by the emperor if the Space Whales hadn't carried him away.

I feel like the new Thrawn Trilogy really exemplifies how smart and efficient a commander Thrawn really is

But he did survive and lead the Empire. We call that the Thrawn trilogy, pal.

It would be awesome if he managed to survive long enough to collect the remaining peaces of the Empire after the destruction on Endor. He would leed the last portions of the Imperial fleet, The Mandalorian for example would be an excellent way to make him appear in a live-action form. I'd love to see him in a respectful form.

I was so glad to see Thrawn in Rebels, I naively thought they were going to make the show better but alas not so. I mean the Clone Wars so so mature and well done, but Rebels kept on being a complete laugh with having everyone so unrealistically incompetent. Thrawn was the perfect 'villain', someone who was your enemy but not the standard mustache twirling evil villain that's evil cuz he's a one dimensional evil person. Thrawn deserved better than to be in Rebels, only the books are canon for me *forcefully hits head against the wall to forget the end of Thrawn in the show*

Had Thrawn been found by the Rebellion, imagine how different the universe would have been!

If Thrawn was still in known space, the Rebellion wouldn’t have lasted a year

Then the sequel trilogy could've had a much better villain.

Allen: what if Thrawn survived and led the empire? Jon Favreau: I like your funny words magic man

From what I understand of the latest Thrawn novel, Thrawn had bigger issues than the tentacle whales. Palpatine was becoming increasingly interested in expanding into the Unknown Regions, and was making no attempt to hide that he would conquer the Chiss as well. Thrawn's entire purpose for coming to the Empire was to secure an alliance with it for his people, and he had no desire to fight them. In Thrawn: Alliances, Darth Vader called him out on his conflicting loyalty and reminded him multiple times that as an Imperial, for Thrawn to have dual loyalties would be treason punishable by death. I've not read the Treason novel, but I understand that it wraps up just before Thrawn heads out to face Ezra at the end of Star Wars Rebels. I've also read some speculation by fans that Thrawn was secretly relieved to be grabbed by the tentacle whales.

Star Wars Fans: Thrawn is one of the most interesting characters in Star Wars Disney: Reeeeally now? Rebels.... ruin him now.

Weirdly i think removing thrawn from the galactic rebellion was a homage to him, as god help the rebels if he'd of stayed around to face them.

While his rebel portrayal was kinda meh, gotta give credit to zahn's canon thrawn books. The book thrawn feels a lot like the old thrawn and they line up with they show perfectly

Not only does the Interdictor technology just disappear in Disney fanon but a few years later the U-wing can hyperspace in planetary gravity wells and inside its atmosphere.

I actually thought the writers did the best they could in the kid show zone trap. Thrawn never really lost to the heroes when it came to strategy, he always had them beat but usually a force completely out of his control (and both times force related) randomly showed up and ruined everything. It could have been far worse, imagine him actually losing battles because he failed to execute a plan.

Imagine Thrawn commanding the Mandolorian Crusaders or Neo-Crusaders. If they almost brought down the Republic by themselves, imagine how unbeatable they would be with Thrawn leading them.

Grand Admiral Thrawn should be the masterplan all along in Disney Trilogy

That’s what happens to even the best of characters when faced with plot armour. They are abducted by giant space whales. It’s like a giant middle finger from Disney to the fans.

Wookiepedia says about the Purrgil (space whales) that they had the capacity to travel not only in hyperspace but also in alternate dimensions. These really could open a plot arc possibility that Ezra and Thrawn could returned many years later from a different dimension while remaining the same age.

A villain the fans love, I'd wave an empire flag above my house the day thrawn gets his own series kicking rebbi and empire warlord butt

A idea for you. What if Revan returned during the civil war, would he joined the rebellion or formed his own movement?

"but it was so artfully done" will always be my favorite non-movie line in Star Wars

Generation Tech: "thrawn is the ultimate tragedy in star wars" Darth plagueis: *TRIGGERED*

Nice work Allan. Disney's Thrawn books are a great read and in them you really see the power of the TIE Defender. The ONLY good thing about Disney Star Wars is that the Thrawn books are the only pro Imperial novels. I loved Heir to the Empire trilogy and the EU. But Star Wars writers have always use plot armour way to much

Death Star: It has a Bull's eye painted on it. Stay on Target

This video has aged like fine wine

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

Watching this now and knowing that those space whales didn’t kill thrown makes me worry for the new republic and the mandolorains

thrawn- this rebellion ends today space whales- no u 10 years later: Thrawn: I'm baacck

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Grand Admiral Thrawn the Wise, it's a Imperial Legend.

Frankly, if Thrawn had not been carried off by the Space Whales, Palpatine would have probably have had him killed. After all, Thrawn is a brilliantly effective officer, much beloved by those under his command and the one thing, Authoritarians of all stripes hate and fear more than anything, more even that rebels, are competent underlings who may represent a future threat to their authority

Thrawn managed to inspire a great number of officers in his tour, a great number of them were on his fleet on Lothal that fateful day but we also remember from the last book how Palpatine basically promissed to also take over the Chiss.

Last time I was this early, Palpatine was still the chancellor

Seeing Thrawn interact with Vader would be legendary

Imagine Anakin becoming Emperor while still in his prime, with Thrawn being his highest military advisor.

It's interesting to me that almost every single villain that Disney has created or adapted have been really lacklustre. You'd think that with enough feedback that they might... you know, try a little harder?

This was one of the many first videos I watched of Gen Tech if I can remember haha.

What if we see him in Mando season 2?

Thank you for that lead-in. Nothing frustrates me more in the SW universe than Rebels Thrawn. That wasn’t Thrawn. That was a cookie cutter villain with blue skin. People were so excited to hear Lars Mikkelsen getting cast in Ahsoka. My immediate response to that has been, “he’s not my Thrawn”.

Thrawn did not agree with most of the Empire's practices, and I have a feeling that this would have eventually put him into direct conflict with Palpatine. There is only so much insolence Palpatine would have taken, because despite his brilliance Thrawn was only, in the end, a tool to Palpatine and every bit as "disposable" as anyone else. What I'm interested in is how it would have gone if Thrawn ended up abandoning Imperial service. I have to believe that almost all of the Seventh Fleet--having worked directly under him and come to understand and admire him--would have defected with him. And in Legends continuity, he had one of those masterful backup plans going where he had assembled those Chiss who had served with him and been converted to his way of thinking secreted away on another planet already at work building the Empire of the Hand (because they were the Hand of Thrawn). But would Thrawn have joined with the Rebel Alliance in taking down what was left of Palpatine's empire? He already knows and even admires Rebel tactics, he has been building a fighting force that is more like their own in makeup, and SURELY his values are more in line with theirs when it comes to advancing people based on the merit of their contributions rather than their political connections, and without any regard as to their species. Sure, Thrawn's a big boy, and he isn't going to complain or get testy because others treat him badly because he is not human. He knows his own worth and he is not reliant on anyone else's praise or approval to feel better about himself. Sticks and stones and all that jazz. But it bothered him a hell of a lot that while he kept getting promoted (because he basically forced their hands; he was too damn good for them to get away for long with not promoting him), Eli Vanto kept getting passed over. Thrawn knew all too well that was Fleet Command's way of striking out against Thrawn since they could not do it directly, and he recognized how unfair it was to keep back a thoroughly competent and able officer as a means of striking against another. It brought him to the point where he actually had to ask Pryce for the favor of helping get Vanto promoted. So surely, when you think about it, Thrawn's ethos is much more in line with the Alliance's own. If it weren't, if he were a Vader sort of character who routinely executed officers for minor errors and ruled his fleet through fear, we wouldn't like him so much. But we appreciate the fact that he takes the time to teach his officers how to think outside of the box, that he is unwilling to commit the lives of his crew to rash and stupid battles instead of retreating when and if the tide of battle turns against him, and that he doesn't berate and belittle his crew for making mistakes, but helps them to learn from those mistakes (provided they are willing to take the responsibility for that mistake and seek to correct it in the future). So...this is what I want to know. Let's say Thrawn was around during the GCW and helped turn the tide of battle, so the 2nd Death Star never had to be built (although, I believe canon says this was already happening by the time the Battle of Yavin got underway), but Thrawn eventually comes to loggerheads with Palpatine and has to leave the Empire. Let's say the Seventh goes with him, too. Do we now have 3 distinct warring factions in the galaxy, Empire, Chiss, and Alliance, or could Thrawn conceivably team up with the Alliance to help crush the Empire and remake it in his own image? An empire where everyone has a chance to voice their opinions and thoughts (just like he encourages his officers to do on his ship), but where the ultimate decision lies in the hands of a singular person at the head of the leadership?

Welp, he's back.

The t.i.e defender was a blast to fly in the T.I.E fighter video game..

'' Where is Grand Admiral Thrawn'' - Ahsoka Tano

I probably love this channel so much because everyone is a dirty rebel sympathiser but this channel knows what’s good

The Tie Defender and the Advance are probably are something the empire needed. Along with other bombers.

The thing that made thrawn so dangerous is he doesn’t underestimate anyone. He’s ready to throw everything he has at a little Ezra Bridger

I have wondered how Thrawn would've handled Wraith Squadron. His tactical knowledge vs their improvisational skill.

Wonder how the Imperials would have reacted if they learned Thrawn and the Chiss evolved from humans.

I would love to see a fan film on this. Thrawn is my favourite character after Palpatine.

Just saw this video now from 2 years ago. He is comin

I wonder who was the better stratagist, Thrawn or Vader. I guess it’s kind of comparing two different things because Vader focuses on squeezing his enemy’s slowly while thrawn is more like a grand stratagist who slowly studies his enemy

Thrawn is *not* dead! I believe we will see him and Ezra again, hopefully in connection with the Chiss Ascendancy...

I can't wait till the new Thrawn book in October.

Hey Allen. I think the one thing you may have not taken into account here was that the emperor was still in charge and my have shot down all of Thrawn’s plans. Then the DS2 may have still been built and also Vader would be a huge rival for Thrawn.

Unlikely to have worked, almost all of his tactics were developed in person on-the-fly. Such a centralized system and his risk/reward ratio would have ended up in a faster destruction.

You really need to read the Timothy Zahn books to truly understand how much of a badass Thrawn is.

Pergil: Exist Generation Tech: Its treason then

0:41 did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?

Still one of my favorite characters ever.

In the original cannon Thrawn did survive and he did lead the Empire till he was assassinated by his noghri Rukh on the command deck of the Chimera. In the Disneyverse Thrawn is still alive, the director of the Mandalorian confirmed that Thrawn and Ezra did survive.

Your videos are cool man

Thrawn is the man. Think I just found my halloween costume for this year!! 😈

Hey Allen congrats on the baby and also have you watched "the Expanse" yet ?

I would like to see a video about Thrawn if he was in the Clone Wars, either Republic and CIS, or if he was the Empour from the begging

I am a huge fan of Thrawn (both in Canon and Legends). He would have done a spectacular job taking care of Rebels (especially if you ally him with a competent Inquisitor or even Darth Vader to help nullify the Rebels’ “Force advantage”). However, at the end of Thrawn Treason, Emperor Palpatine wanted to have “a long long talk” with Thrawn after Lothal was “taken care of” about his true allegiances and would try to manipulate the Chiss Ascendancy to enter into a partnership with (or join) the Empire with Palpatine at the helm. Or manipulate Thrawn into betraying the Ascendancy, for “if [Thrawn] has committed treason against the Empire he will surely die”(pg 333)

I can answer this question without watching the video. If Thawn became Emperor and people carried out his orders without disobeying (Constintine), the rebellion would have never stood a chance.

I’m excited to see where the space wakes tomorrow thrawn and Ezra

The only way ezra could beat thrawn was to do something completely unpredictable.