Generator to Alternator Ford

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3 жыл бұрын

Generator to alternator ford
Converting a Ford Generator to Alternator
Episode 497
We convert our tired old generator to an alternator in our 1964 Falcon. We show exactly how to wire the alternator into the existing car using a new harness we make from one of our existing wire bundles. We also show existing parts from National Parts Depot that you can use to make your own harness to convert from a Ford generator to an alternator. This is not a one wire alternator conversion because some folks do not wan to use a one wire alternator.
Wiring diagrams:
www.autorestomod.com/diagrams...
jford@autorestomod.com
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Parts:
www.nationalpartsdepot.com
Bracket Set, Alternator Mounting: 10156-1B
www.npdlink.com/product/brack...
Spacer, Alternator: 10A370-1
www.npdlink.com/product/space...
Alternator: 10346-3PMN
www.npdlink.com/product/alter...
Repair Harness, Voltage Regulator Connection: 14R290-1A
www.npdlink.com/product/repai...
Wire Loom, Alternator Feed: 14305-1D
www.npdlink.com/product/wire-...
Voltage Regulator, Alternator: 10316-1R
www.npdlink.com/product/volta...

Пікірлер: 77

@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 3 жыл бұрын

Like the Mach one in the background.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Us too!

@Paulie1232 3 жыл бұрын

Hey jeff, I had a generator on my 61 for 20 years, yes all orginal carl...but I love it and worked great....

@brianwaskow5910 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't soldering electric connections a better way?

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

That one wors fine but won't do the things we need it to do amperage wise.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

That is one of those things like what brand of motor oil. BUT my theory is that solder can be shaken lose quicker than a butt connector.

@biglakehotrods381 3 жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod I have heard that too. Supposedly it’s not used in aviation because Of that reason. But I’m no expert.

@ibiltit 3 жыл бұрын

When I built my 64 Ranchero I used a Painless harness with a Ford alternator. Just not enough power so I switched to a 100 amp one wire alternator. Wasn’t happy with voltage at idle. After starting the engine I had to rev the engine to over 1500 rpm to get the alternator to start charging. After reving the voltage was just ok. So 8 years ago I replaced the alternator to a 3 wire internally regulated 110 amp GM style alternator. I now have plenty on voltage at every rpm. So if you don’t care about factory correct the GM style is the way to go, plus they are available with even higher output than the one I’m using.

@RealWorldGarage 3 жыл бұрын

That the way I’m leaning on my 64 comet build. I’ll be filming for that kick off this weekend I hope.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

It is a good option. But we wanted to cover the original swap to set up the next video.

@Spaceplant109 3 жыл бұрын

You guys are great

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@amiamso 3 жыл бұрын

Okay, there has got to be a reason you chose an external regulator. As Rickie would say, OK Lucy, you got some 'splaining to do!

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

This will come next week.

@tedpeterson1156 2 жыл бұрын

Have used a 30 amp Generator to power Halogens and Pertronix Ignitor 1 for 20 years now, so it's news to me that it won't work but I'll be sure to keep an eye on it now ;) Generators work but if you want A/C it's not gonna be enough.

@stephenhotzjustdriveit 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Cam

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Cam for President 2034!

@biglakehotrods381 3 жыл бұрын

Best thing you can do with a generator. Toss it. Installed the 3g alternator on my 63 Falcon, not sure if you can run a v-belt with it. I’m using a serpentine setup.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

You can.

@Jon-Bar 3 жыл бұрын

Surprising that you used an externally regulated setup. The 1G alternator is a little bit smaller, but if you can fit it a 3g internally regulated would seem easier with a lot more power output. Other options would be a 1-wire but there are some downsides. Also , if you have an ammeter you might need to pull that circuit out.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

We will be covering this in the next episode.

@RealWorldGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Using a torch to shrink the butt connectors is the only way I do it at the house. I use a heat gun at work or a bic lighter if it’s only 1 or 2. Probably going to do a swap on the Comet. But I’m looking at maybe a GM one wire.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Cam was like..."cheap skate" LOL

@RealWorldGarage 3 жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod I’m better than I used to be, but yeah, I work with what I got to get the job done right now.

@9thgatedim273 3 жыл бұрын

What's the best size battery for a 1956 Fairlane with a 272 y block first ford battery not staying charged

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

I'd look at the generator and make sure it is charging like it should.

@j.anthony3571 3 жыл бұрын

I replaced my regulator and it was causing my headlights to flicker. So I put the old one back on and it works fine. What would cause the issue with a new one?

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Some of the electronic ones are not as good as the original mechanicals. We may do a mini episode on that.

@Duaneoca 3 жыл бұрын

I’d like to see that episode. I replaced my external regulator and now my gen light is on when the key is OFF.

@hotrodray6802 3 жыл бұрын

Made in China

@nightrat973 3 жыл бұрын

Why use an external regulator? I was just looking at electric fans for my truck just yesterday!

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of Folks like the original stuff. We are just showing one way to do the job.

@SAM-eg7jg 9 ай бұрын

Do you have the no wire no alternator upgrade video available..? Also interested in the no battery upgrade.. Thanks,

@AutoRestoMod 9 ай бұрын

Ehhhh no.

@aroundlinemen 3 жыл бұрын

wear is the best place to get parts for 56 f100 , to change over to alt. thanks

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the engine. NPD has one for Y Blocks: www.npdlink.com/product/bracket-kit-alternator-conversion/143119?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3Dalternator%252Badapter%252Bbracket%26top_parent%3D50000%26year%3D1956&year=1956

@hotrodray6802 3 жыл бұрын

Alt that look like gens are available. Just put one on.

@stevenboyle6924 3 жыл бұрын

I was just looking at doing the same thing to my '57 F100

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Hope this helped!

@stevenboyle6924 3 жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod I believe I will be going the 1-wire route on my Y-block.

@bingbangbong2552 3 жыл бұрын

Why did you use the old voltage regulator. The new alternators I thought had the regulators internal to alternator???

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

You can do that. I wanted to show the old school way since we did the 3g Ford style a while back.

@bingbangbong2552 3 жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod oh! I am working as we speak on my 1962 Falcon 2dr Sedan 170. My Generator light was coming on and decided to upgrade to alternator. I want to eliminate wires to have a cleaner look and not use the existing regulator. What's the easiest way to do that? And do I need special brackets to hold the alternator? Also should I use a 3 wire or 1 wire altenator? Any video suggestions on line you might suggest?

@johnosborne1009 6 ай бұрын

I need to do this for my 6 cylinder comet

@jamiegomes1346 2 жыл бұрын

Will this work for an FE ?

@perotekku 2 жыл бұрын

It will work on any engine. Unless you're restoring an all original car, alternators are universally better.

@brianwaskow5910 3 жыл бұрын

No battery hold down?

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we have one, but we need that battery to move other cars right now. LOL

@ChadHHC86 3 жыл бұрын

Why not use a 3g from a 3.6l 97 Thunderbird

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

We'll be talking about that next.

@brianwaskow5910 3 жыл бұрын

What was the last year Ford used a generator?

@oakhurstaxe6392 3 жыл бұрын

My 64 1/2 Mustang had a generator. I thought they used them that year until they ran out and later ones from that year used alternators. So it was somewhere around 65-66 (probably depends on which model Ford as to what year they swapped them). My understanding is all 65+ Mustangs had alternators.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Mid 64 on Most of the Ford line.

@markamcampbell6340 3 жыл бұрын

Where is the fender covers?

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

We ummm covered that.

@hotrodray6802 3 жыл бұрын

Some care about even poor paint. Some dont.

@TheSaxon25 3 жыл бұрын

Cam had a hot date?! 🍻⚡

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but she was tired...

@tomadkins5239 Жыл бұрын

I don't know if your going to see this because your video isa few years old. I would've like more on connecting the factory wiring, (horns, etc.)

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

We do see them. The big issue is that there are differences between the big 3 and how they handled an alternator set up

@hotrodray6802 3 жыл бұрын

FYI Alternators that LOOK LIKE GENERATORS are readily available.

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

And REALLY expensive.

@tommywilliams3776 Жыл бұрын

Where is the fender cover!!!

@67Stang 3 жыл бұрын

Of course, the next step is to upgrade to a one-wire alternator. Good information as always.

@TheSaxon25 3 жыл бұрын

Is that an upgrade or a shortcut?!? 😅

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

I am looking at doing a video of 1 wire vs. 3G Ford.

@TheSaxon25 3 жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod after the wagon gets up and running!!!!

@hotrodray6802 3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@domfer2540 3 жыл бұрын

Why not a one wire alternator

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

We wanted to show an alternative. This style of alternator is easy to get at the local parts store. We'll be doing a video on the pros and cons of one wire and 3G Ford.